Re: Answering Incoming Whatsapp Calls

[J.Cyr]

Thanks, I did do the two finger double tap (several of them) and it didn't 
work.  Swiping didn't give me any information either, there didn't seem to be 
any buttons.


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RE: Shortcuts not fully accessible in ios13.xx

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There is definitely a bug for many users where Voiceover and, for me at least, 
all other sounds and vibrations go away after ending some calls. You should 
write to Apple Accessibility and also report it because even though they are 
saying that they are investigating the issue with no timeline as to when it 
will be fixed, the more complaints they hear, the more likely they are to work 
on it.

As for your statement regarding Steve Jobs I can only say that nobody knows 
whether anything would be different were he still alive. The iPhone and iOS is 
a very different animal now than it was in those first few years and even Steve 
Jobs may not have been able to always add "one more thing" and keep everything 
as polished as it maybe was in the beginning when they didn't have that many 
users and all the competition to keep up with.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Lockwood
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:17 PM
To: iphone group 
Subject: Shortcuts not fully accessible in ios13.xx

Ever since I upgraded to iOS 13 the ”show list” or ”choose from list” option is 
not fully accessible in created shortcuts. Oh yeah… And if I don’t immediately 
turn off voiceover at the end of a call my phone freezes forcing me to restart. 
I have iPhone 6s ios 13.12 and a broken heart that Steve Jobs is no longer 
here. Quality has definitely gone down

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Re: Battery Health

[Mike B.]

Well, I don't know what else to say other than what my battery health report 
is, as reported to me by  Voiceover.  Maybe it's because I don't use my 
iPhone for a whole lot like all you other folks.  When we're at home I 
always forward my cell phone calls to the home phone number and if I receive 
a text message on my iPhone I'll respond to from the iPhone, but I do most 
of my texting from my computer.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: RE: Battery Health


When I had rthe battery in my 6S Plus replaced after 2 and a half years it 
was also down to 83 or 84%. I really don’t know how you can have 98% after 3 
years.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:22 PM
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Mike:



My phone, iPhone 7, is not quite three years old, and my battery health is 
down to 83%.  You are doing something right!

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Re: Is there an app that replaces MoneyReader?

[englishrider91]

> I can't seem to get Cash Reader to work for me for some strange reason. I 
> went through the setup, allowing it access to the camera, doing the free 
> 14-day trial, etc., but when I hold the phone up to identify US currency, 
> which it's set for, it does absolutely nothing. I'm assuming I'm on the main 
> screen of the app, since I have a piece of text called "Identifying US 
> currency," a piece of text telling me that the full version trial will expire 
> in 14 days, a button to purchase the full version of Cash Reader, and hea 
> settings button. Nothing happens when I hold up a bill. I checked in the 
> settings, and it's using the back camera, so that shouldn't be an issue. Has 
> anyone else had this problem? The flash is also set to be used when 
> necessary, so I really don't know what could be going on.


Thanks,
Are
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 2, 2019, at 11:20 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I find that Cash reader works better than Money Reader ever did and as was 
> pointed out, the support for so many currencies is pretty nice.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
> Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is there an app that replaces MoneyReader?
> 
> Hi,
> I have to agree I am enjoying this app very much and find it was well worth 
> its cost to me.  I'd still love to know what happened with Money Reader but 
> find I'm less apt to keep checking for its return to the app store since 
> adding Cash Reader to my stable of can't be without apps.
> Take good care.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Francisco Salvador Crespo
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Is there an app that replaces MoneyReader?
> 
> Cash Reader is great. It supports a big number of world currencies and 
> reads bills immediately even if they are folded in several parts.
> 
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
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> El 2 oct. 2019, a las 11:59, Brandon Olivares 
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RE: Answering Incoming Whatsapp Calls

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Do a 2-finger double tap or, if you use a headset, press the button for 
Answer/Hangup.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of J.Cyr
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Answering Incoming Whatsapp Calls

Good evening,
I recently received my first whatsapp call and was unable to answer it.  I can 
place a call using whatsapp both from the app and from my contacts list, but 
for some reason nothing worked when the call was incoming, it was as though the 
screen had frozen.  Any idea what may have happened and the best way to work 
around it?

I have not downloaded the new IOS, and I am using an IPhone 8.

As ever any advice or help would be most welcome.

Thank you,
Joy

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RE: Battery Health

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When I had rthe battery in my 6S Plus replaced after 2 and a half years it was 
also down to 83 or 84%. I really don’t know how you can have 98% after 3 years.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Health

Mike:

My phone, iPhone 7, is not quite three years old, and my battery health is down 
to 83%.  You are doing something right!
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RE: Battery Health

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I’d say you are doing more than good, my iPhone 8 is 10 months old and my 
battery capacity is showing as 92%, my wife got hers the exact same day, also 
an iPhone 8, and hers is 97%.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Battery Health

You're doing really good if you have a phone that's three years old with 98 
percent battery health. Apple says that once the battery reaches 80 percent 
that it needs to be replaced. But I have known a couple of people who started 
seeing battery problems at 88 percent. But for now you're doing good.
On 10/10/2019 5:22 PM, Mike B. wrote:
Hi All,

Running an SE with iOS 12.4.1 and the iPhone is 3 years old.  My battery health 
is currently at 98%.  At what percentage should someone start considering 
getting a battery replaced?  Thanks mooy moocho.

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apple watch

[Jan Stirbens]

Hello,

I am using the latest version of iPhone 13.1.2 and the latest version of apple 
watch, series 4.
I have my watch paired to mirror the iPhone.  When I put my iPhone on mute, and 
the watch on mute, when I get a phone call, the watch still rings.  Is there a 
way to silence the ringer on the watch?  I don’t want it ringing in church or a 
meeting.
Any help is appreciated.  Before the update, all worked fine.

Jan

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A Message for Low Vision VoiceOver Users of iOS 13 and iPad OS 13, Regarding the Lock Screen Keypad Entry Colors

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

This post is specifically for those who are both low vision and who are
VoiceOver users of iOS 13 and/or iPad OS 13.

If you purchased a new iPhone 11 series device, then you most likely do not
need to follow the below  steps in order to get the OS to display the
correct keypad entry colors, encountered when rebooting the device or
unlocking the device.

If, however, you updated your phone from an earlier version of the OS with
VoiceOver enabled, then you most likely noticed that the lock screen keypad
changed to an aweful shade of black on light gray or something equally as
difficult to see.

The point is that the default lock screen keypad entry color scheme, seen
after updating to iOS/iPad OS 13 is not the correct one.  The correct color
scheme is a very easy-to-see, white on black, very high contrast, keypad,
regardless of your display settings.  

So far, I have only been able to get the correct keypad entry colors to be
displayed by using the following steps.  You only need to do these steps,
once, until you update the OS, again.  This is kind of a glitch that all of
us, who are low vision, should relay to Apple.

I have performed these steps on 11 devices, now, and it works every time.
Remember, these steps are intended for low vision VoiceOver users or those
who share their devices with sighted people, in which case a sighted person
can perform them. 

1.
With VoiceOver enabled, from system settings, go to Accessability.

2.
Select Display and Text Size.

3.
Make certain that both Smart Invert and Classic Invert are disabled.

4.
Return to the system settings list.

5.
Select Display and Brightness.

6.
Assuming that you have a shortcut key set to enable / disable VoiceOver,
disable VoiceOver.

7.
With VoiceOver disabled, switch between the light appearance and dark
appearance options, at least twice.  It does not matter which one you
finally select.

8.
Return to the system settings list.

9.
At this point, you can enable VoiceOver and reboot the phone, if you like.
Personally, I leave VoiceOver off and reboot the device, being certain that
the lock screen keypad entry colors are correct before re-enabling
VoiceOver.

That's all there is to it.

Mark


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Shortcuts not fully accessible in ios13.xx

[James Lockwood]

Ever since I upgraded to iOS 13 the ”show list” or ”choose from list” option is 
not fully accessible in created shortcuts. Oh yeah… And if I don’t immediately 
turn off voiceover at the end of a call my phone freezes forcing me to restart. 
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Re: Responding to a text with a phone call

[Christopher Chaltain]

No, if the person isn't in your contacts then you'll just see the number 
and you can double tap that to call them back.



On 10/10/19 8:03 PM, 'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone wrote:

So it sounds like the person who’s texting me needs to be in my contacts?


On Oct 10, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:

When you open the text message conversation, that person's name should
be to the right of the back button up top. If you double tap that,
then you get options, i.e. audio, facetime, and info.


On 10/10/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
I just had this come up today, and swiped through all the available options
and did not find "call." Am I missing something? iPhone 7S.

Susie


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-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Responding to a text with a phone call

On my phone, I open the list showing the text in question,   at the top of
the screen is a contact button, and tapping that offers
you all the contact things including call.
There is also  Done button to back out of there and when you're done.

Hth.

- Original Message -
From: "'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:43 PM
Subject: Responding to a text with a phone call


Hello,

I’ve done this once before but it must have been dumb luck since I can’t
seem to find the call button to reply to a text message.

Can anyone tell me where it is?

Thank you,

Kim

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Re: Responding to a text with a phone call

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

So it sounds like the person who’s texting me needs to be in my contacts?

> On Oct 10, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Sharonda Greenlaw  wrote:
> 
> When you open the text message conversation, that person's name should
> be to the right of the back button up top. If you double tap that,
> then you get options, i.e. audio, facetime, and info.
> 
>> On 10/10/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
>> I just had this come up today, and swiped through all the available options
>> and did not find "call." Am I missing something? iPhone 7S.
>> 
>> Susie
>> 
>> 
>> “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” –Eleanor
>> Roosevelt
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Responding to a text with a phone call
>> 
>> On my phone, I open the list showing the text in question,   at the top of
>> the screen is a contact button, and tapping that offers
>> you all the contact things including call.
>> There is also  Done button to back out of there and when you're done.
>> 
>> Hth.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:43 PM
>> Subject: Responding to a text with a phone call
>> 
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I’ve done this once before but it must have been dumb luck since I can’t
>> seem to find the call button to reply to a text message.
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me where it is?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Kim
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Re: Blocked callers

[Shirley Baker]

It reads the number unless you turn that off which I did because it read the 
number at least twice.I would rather check my missed calls and see who called 
and of course, the people in your contacts can still reach you because your 
phone will still ring.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 10, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
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> when you block a caller. What do they get when they call you. Does it just 
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> Thanks for any pointers.
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Re: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Deidre Muccio]

This is definitely Jewel online, but is she on the level?  The milk of human 
kindness, I agree there’s sometimes a shortage…  I liked your lottery story


Deidre


> On Oct 10, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Jewel  wrote:
> 
> Not that it applies in any way to the US lottery, but here in New Zealand, 
> the Lottery Commission now, after years of frustration for blind suckers, 
> have a top class buying site.
>  I used to think that a sizeable proportion of the Lotto funds went to the 
> government, but that is not true and once I found that every available cent 
> goes to supporting over 3,000 worthy causes:  every time, and that is most of 
> them, that I lose another 25$, I think that a fraction of each and every one 
> is doing something worthwhile:  if not for me, a lot of others!
> makes my heart overflow with the milk of human kindness, and as the world is 
> today, it could do with as much of that commodity as possible!
>  
>  Jewel
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
> online?
> 
> I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
> doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
> where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
> 7-Eleven stores etc.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristobal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
> online?
>  
> Hello list,
> So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
> asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s 
> out of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have 
> never looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone 
> plays lotto and how they buy their tickets.
> I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
> again, never paid it much mind.
> Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays 
> the state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe 
> side, something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
> Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.
> If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an 
> iOS app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.
>  
> Thanks,
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Answering Incoming Whatsapp Calls

[J.Cyr]

Good evening,
I recently received my first whatsapp call and was unable to answer it.  I can 
place a call using whatsapp both from the app and from my contacts list, but 
for some reason nothing worked when the call was incoming, it was as though the 
screen had frozen.  Any idea what may have happened and the best way to work 
around it?

I have not downloaded the new IOS, and I am using an IPhone 8.

As ever any advice or help would be most welcome.

Thank you,
Joy

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Re: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Jewel]

Not that it applies in any way to the US lottery, but here in New Zealand, the 
Lottery Commission now, after years of frustration for blind suckers, have a 
top class buying site.
 I used to think that a sizeable proportion of the Lotto funds went to the 
government, but that is not true and once I found that every available cent 
goes to supporting over 3,000 worthy causes:  every time, and that is most of 
them, that I lose another 25$, I think that a fraction of each and every one is 
doing something worthwhile:  if not for me, a lot of others!
makes my heart overflow with the milk of human kindness, and as the world is 
today, it could do with as much of that commodity as possible!

 Jewel


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?


I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

 

Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an iOS 
app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: Blocked callers

[Feliciano Godoy]

The call goes straight to your voicemail.

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Blocked callers

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
when you block a caller. What do they get when they call you. Does it just ring 
out or engaged signal or what?
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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


First of all, thank you to all of you who responded to my questions. I really 
appreciate it.


I have purchased Voicedream scanner. I am now trying to learn how to use it. I 
do have Voicedream reader as well. I love it, and use it all the time.


Thank you again,


Terri

On 10/10/2019 1:59 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
In my opinion, it is the best OCR app you could buy.
My only wish is that it could handle columns.
But, if it is text in paragraph format, it is brilliant.
If you also have Voice Dream Reader, you could put the PDF in it, and then it 
would use Voice Dream Scanner to recognize the document.
I've not tried to open a PDF from the web directly with Voice Dream Scanner 
though if it showed up in the share sheet, that would work.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Oct 10, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Terri Stimmel 
 wrote:

Hello everyone,

I was considering purchasing Voicedream scanner. I haven’t ever used this 
before.

For those of you who use it, what do you think about it?
What are some things you like about it?
And what are some things you don’t like about it?

Also, if I find a PDF online, could I somehow download it to Voicedream 
scanner, and read it?
If so, how might I do this?

Any help, or thoughts about this App is much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Battery Health

[Holly]

Mike:

My phone, iPhone 7, is not quite three years old, and my battery health is down 
to 83%.  You are doing something right!

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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Donna]

Hi

What do I not like about the Voice Dream scanner app? Absolutely Nothing! I 
have tried other OCR apps, Voice, KNFB & Seeing AI, neither compares to the 
accuracy of the Voice Dream Scanner. Best $6.00 I have ever spent on an app. 

Donna 
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was considering purchasing Voicedream scanner. I haven’t ever used this 
> before.
> 
> For those of you who use it, what do you think about it?
> What are some things you like about it?
> And what are some things you don’t like about it?
> 
> Also, if I find a PDF online, could I somehow download it to Voicedream 
> scanner, and read it?
> If so, how might I do this?
> 
> Any help, or thoughts about this App is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Battery Health

[Gordon]

You're doing really good if you have a phone that's three years old with 
98 percent battery health. Apple says that once the battery reaches 80 
percent that it needs to be replaced. But I have known a couple of 
people who started seeing battery problems at 88 percent. But for now 
you're doing good.

On 10/10/2019 5:22 PM, Mike B. wrote:

Hi All,
Running an SE with iOS 12.4.1 and the iPhone is 3 years old.  My 
battery health is currently at 98%.  At what percentage should someone 
start considering getting a battery replaced?  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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Re: Battery Health

[Mike B.]

Hi Dave & Holly,

A quick search found that a person should change their battery if the 
battery health reaches 80%.  Thanks much for your input.
Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
Every man should marry.  After all, happiness is not the only thing in life.
- Original Message - 
From: Dave
To: VIPhone
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: Battery Health


for a 3 year old phone. Your battery health is absolutely fine.

Dave.


From: Mike B.
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:22 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Battery Health

Hi All,

Running an SE with iOS 12.4.1 and the iPhone is 3 years old.  My battery 
health is currently at 98%.  At what percentage should someone start 
considering getting a battery replaced?  Thanks mooy moocho.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Rams!
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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Angie and Everyone,

You know, I must say that while I was planning on waiting for a later version 
of iOS 13.x to be released, before updating my 8 Plus, I am definitely glad 
that I went ahead and took the proverbial plunge.  This is to say that I have 
gained much more than I lost.

Now keep in mind that I have yet to experience any loss of VoiceOver under any 
circumstances.  Also, while I do read some email messages via iPhone, I read 
most of my emails on either my Windows PC or my Mac so cannot speak to any 
problems with the native iOS Mail app.

I absolutely love the new system-wide hap tic VoiceOver feedback feature.  I 
think the latest versions of Maps is incredible, especially the new E.T.A 
feature.  However, what I like most about iOS 13.x and by the same token, iPad 
OS 13 is the fact that now, as it was many, many moons ago, all of my ripped 
DVD videos play perfectly on all of my Apple devices.  This was certainly not 
the case in iOS 12 and earlier.  I am glad that Apple relinquished its death 
grip on the types of videos it would and would not allow to be played on Apple 
devices, in the hope of getting customers to purchase / rent videos from the 
iTunes Store.  

Oh, one more thing, while I am a heavy user of Braille using the original Focus 
40 Blue, as yet, I have not attempted to read any lengthy pieces on my Braille 
display so cannot speak to any issues regarding Braille displays.

I can tell you, however, that while I adore the new dark mode on my iPad Pro, I 
have elected not to engage this new feature on my 8 Plus.  Why?  Well, the 
display seems to be too dark for my taste on the smaller display and I find it 
easier to toggle Invert Display on and off, as needed with the Home button.

On the iPhone 11, however, given that there is no longer a Home button, I do 
engage Dark mode, using the side button to Toggle VoiceOver on and off, as 
needed.  As yet, I have not experienced a loss of VoiceOver before, during, or 
after calls, of any kind.

I am of the opinion that iOS 12 with Watch OS 5 work much better, together, 
than iOS 13 with Watch OS 6, especially where Bluetooth audio switching is 
concerned; at least, this has been my experience so far.

Still, all of my "must-have" apps work as expected and I have yet to encounter 
any show-stoppers in iOS 13.x, so far.

So, if you have not yet updated to iOS 13.x yet, wait a little longer before 
doing so but if you're ready to jump in and begin sending Apple, along with 
third-party developers, bug reports as you encounter them, go ahead and make 
the leap as we can use all of the proverbial voices we can get in order to get 
the attention of all of the developers to resolve various iOS 13.x issues.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Angie Nutt
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

The only thing stopping me from upgrading is the losing sound when ending a 
call thing; would hate that to happen when out alone. Otherwise I’m looking 
forward to getting my hands on iOS 13

All the best
Angie


> On 9 Oct 2019, at 18:58, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi I also am waiting to update. Yes there are ones of you who are 
> doing it and sharing the bugs with Apple and I thank you for that. I 
> just not a person who wants any problems only a few years in and just 
> want tech to work all the time. Louise and princess Kiara
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> My Iphone 8 is running 12.41 and I'm not upgrading until some of these major 
> bugs are getting fixed.  I only had one reminder about the update yesterday.  
> I also found remind me later and just for referrence, don't enter in your 
> passcode if you're prompted for it.
> My iPhone 8 is working just fine, and I see no need to update at this time.  
> I'm so glad I got on this list so I can be warned about things like major 
> bugs and so on.  Granted, I don't really use my phone to check email, but I 
> really don't like the thought of voiceover shutting down after a phone call.  
> Until that is fixed for sure, I'm not upgrading.  I'd recommend not to update 
> just yet.  A lot of my friends are also waiting to update as well.
> 
> On 10/9/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
>> Good morning all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped 
>> on "later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me 
>> alone for a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and
>> elsewhere) about people having a hard time with this upgrade, it 
>> occurred to me that it might be a good idea to hold off until they 
>> get some of this 

Re: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

[Rebecca Degeorge]

i’m relatively new to this list, but I think it is not necessarily kind to tell 
someone they’re not looking hard enough for something. Having said that, so far 
as talking microwaves go, I know there are some out there, and there are also 
models that manufactures can provide a braille overlay for the keypad. Also, 
using Dimo tape, it’s possible to have your own microwave marked by your friend 
or relative if you braille the various controls. Good luck. Maybe I should’ve 
sent this privately, but I don’t know who sent the message in the first place.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2019, at 2:42 PM, Guidedogs Moderator  
wrote:

And there are still plenty of Microwaves that have tactile marks.

If you don't find any, it's because you're not looking hard enough.

I would look at the Panasonic line of Microwaves.

Victor

-Original Message- From: Holly
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

I don't know about an iPhone compatible microwave, but know that there are
Amazon Echo compatible ones that work with Alexa and voice control.

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Re: Battery Health

[Dave]

for a 3 year old phone. Your battery health is absolutely fine.

Dave.


From: Mike B. 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:22 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Battery Health

Hi All,

Running an SE with iOS 12.4.1 and the iPhone is 3 years old.  My battery health 
is currently at 98%.  At what percentage should someone start considering 
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Re: Battery Health

[Holly]

Mike:

I think I read somewhere that you should think about replacing your battery 
when your battery health falls below 75%.

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Battery Health

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

Running an SE with iOS 12.4.1 and the iPhone is 3 years old.  My battery 
health is currently at 98%.  At what percentage should someone start 
considering getting a battery replaced?  Thanks mooy moocho.

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Re: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

[Guidedogs Moderator]

And there are still plenty of Microwaves that have tactile marks.

If you don't find any, it's because you're not looking hard enough.

I would look at the Panasonic line of Microwaves.

Victor

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I don't know about an iPhone compatible microwave, but know that there are
Amazon Echo compatible ones that work with Alexa and voice control.

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Re: Responding to a text with a phone call

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

When you open the text message conversation, that person's name should
be to the right of the back button up top. If you double tap that,
then you get options, i.e. audio, facetime, and info.

On 10/10/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
> I just had this come up today, and swiped through all the available options
> and did not find "call." Am I missing something? iPhone 7S.
>
> Susie
>
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Responding to a text with a phone call
>
> On my phone, I open the list showing the text in question,   at the top of
> the screen is a contact button, and tapping that offers
> you all the contact things including call.
> There is also  Done button to back out of there and when you're done.
>
> Hth.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "'Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:43 PM
> Subject: Responding to a text with a phone call
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I’ve done this once before but it must have been dumb luck since I can’t
> seem to find the call button to reply to a text message.
>
> Can anyone tell me where it is?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Kim
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RE: Responding to a text with a phone call

[Susie Stageberg]

I just had this come up today, and swiped through all the available options and 
did not find "call." Am I missing something? iPhone 7S.

Susie


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From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Responding to a text with a phone call

On my phone, I open the list showing the text in question,   at the top of the 
screen is a contact button, and tapping that offers 
you all the contact things including call.
There is also  Done button to back out of there and when you're done.

Hth.

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:43 PM
Subject: Responding to a text with a phone call


Hello,

I’ve done this once before but it must have been dumb luck since I can’t seem 
to find the call button to reply to a text message.

Can anyone tell me where it is?

Thank you,

Kim

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Re: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

[Tony Malykh]

Thanks so much, this works!

--Tony

On 10/9/2019 10:26 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Double tap the keyboard button and then slide  your finger up until you find 
English.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tony 
Malykh
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 5:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Cannot switch keyboard layouts in iOS 13

Hello,
I recently updated my iOs to version 13.1 and I can no longer switch to english 
layout.
My iOs is configured to have Russian as a secondary layout. However, once I 
switch to Russian, there is no way to go back. When I press the button to 
switch to next layout, it keeps switching between Russian and emoji.
Has anyone else experienced this? Are there any known workarounds?
Thanks
Tony


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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Carolyn Arnold]

I'll keep that in mind, but my Volume Up button is off, so I have to use the 
end of a rat tail comb or the pick on a pick comb to push Volume Up. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:12 PM
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I find a hard reset is the quickest way for a blind person to fix this, if it 
happens on my iPhon e8 I press Volume Up, Volume Down and then press and hold 
the power button for about 12 seconds and within 10 or so seconds my iPhone is 
back up. It's annoying, but I find I can do the hard reset a lot  more reliably 
than to turn the phone off and back on without feedback whether the Power Off 
button showed up.

-Original Message-
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Nutt
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

The only thing stopping me from upgrading is the losing sound when ending a 
call thing; would hate that to happen when out alone. Otherwise I’m looking 
forward to getting my hands on iOS 13

All the best
Angie


> On 9 Oct 2019, at 18:58, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi I also am waiting to update. Yes there are ones of you who are 
> doing it and sharing the bugs with Apple and I thank you for that. I 
> just not a person who wants any problems only a few years in and just 
> want tech to work all the time. Louise and princess Kiara
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> My Iphone 8 is running 12.41 and I'm not upgrading until some of these major 
> bugs are getting fixed.  I only had one reminder about the update yesterday.  
> I also found remind me later and just for referrence, don't enter in your 
> passcode if you're prompted for it.
> My iPhone 8 is working just fine, and I see no need to update at this time.  
> I'm so glad I got on this list so I can be warned about things like major 
> bugs and so on.  Granted, I don't really use my phone to check email, but I 
> really don't like the thought of voiceover shutting down after a phone call.  
> Until that is fixed for sure, I'm not upgrading.  I'd recommend not to update 
> just yet.  A lot of my friends are also waiting to update as well.
> 
> On 10/9/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
>> Good morning all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped 
>> on "later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me 
>> alone for a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and
>> elsewhere) about people having a hard time with this upgrade, it 
>> occurred to me that it might be a good idea to hold off until they 
>> get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very nicely with
>> 12.2 and I'm one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
>> just because it's the latest and greatest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I 
>> will get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the 
>> ostrich?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Susie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -Eleanor 
>> Roosevelt
>> 
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RE: alternate ways to get to the control center

[Carolyn Arnold]

I thought that there was some difference in Settngs and going in from the Home 
Page, but was not sure what. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 11:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

Carolyn: Going to settings and then control center will only let you set 
options and customize the control center; you can't actually get to it that 
way. To access it, you would have to use the 3 finger swipe down from the 
status bar, or the VoiceOver gesture for phones without a Home button where you 
swipe down from the top of the screen. The control center is the second 
vibration. This is only for newer devices.

Wayne

On 10/10/19, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Glad to hear that it worked for you.
>
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> On Oct 10, 2019, at 3:42 AM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> 
> interesting you say that. It occurred to me to try that after I sent 
> my last reply. It worked. Also a bit more on the keyboard issue. 
> Originally, I thought I could only delete messages to which I had 
> responded by closing and reopening the messages app. Seems that’s not 
> the case. While the screen does jump away from the delete and cancel 
> buttons, you can get back to those buttons by using the right arrow 
> key. I think I may be sending apple another screenshot.
>
> From: Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 01:04
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center
>
> Hi,
> Enable assistive  touch. It’s a Icón that will appear on screen. 
> Explore by dragging to locate once enabled. This feature will help 
> you. Go to settings, accessibility, touch, assitive touch and enable 
> then locate icon and double tap.
>
>
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> On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:52 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> 
> one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able 
> to get
> 2 to move in a coordinated way.
>
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center
>
> 
>
> 1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
>
> 
> Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is 
> there another way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or 
> coordination to make that swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t 
> seem to get me there. in that case, I am pressing and holding 
> control+option then pressing the letter m with no result.
> Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Bill Outman]

Hello. 
Voice Dream Scanner is quite. A program for its affordable price. I like the 
tone indicator that allows for easy centering of text, and the response is 
fast. 
For on line PDF’s, you can scan them as long as they are not DRM protected, if 
I recall that right. You would also need Voice Dream Reader. You would copy the 
file to VDR and it will detect it appears to be an image and ask if you want to 
do OCR, which Voice Dream Scanner does. Having VDR also means you have a place 
to save the file for later use.
It’s good to have both programs so you have the ability to scan items not found 
on line and have a way to save for future reference.I bought the programs 
individually as well as Voice Dream Writer, which isn’t as well developed at 
this point, but they can be purchased as a bundle. 
Hope this is of some use to you. 
God bless, whatever your decision. 
Bill Outman 


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> On Oct 10, 2019, at 2:46 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was considering purchasing Voicedream scanner. I haven’t ever used this 
> before.
> 
> For those of you who use it, what do you think about it?
> What are some things you like about it?
> And what are some things you don’t like about it?
> 
> Also, if I find a PDF online, could I somehow download it to Voicedream 
> scanner, and read it?
> If so, how might I do this?
> 
> Any help, or thoughts about this App is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
> 
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RE: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

[Cristobal Muñoz]

Well, I bought this microwave back in June of last year and I've been pretty 
happy with it.
Panasonic Microwave Oven NN-SN966S Stainless Steel Countertop/Built-In with 
Inverter Technology and Genius Sensor, 2.2 Cu. Ft, 1250W 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DEWZWDU/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Qg4NDb6KMZJMV
This is the larger option. I believe there's a smaller 1.2 SQFT version.
What drew me to is is that it's got a tactile keypad. The menus aren't 
accessible per say, but that's been true of pretty much any microwave always. 
Just a little memorization and maybe jotting down sequences until it becomes 
second nature and there you go.
It's a pretty strong appliance and I was at first blowing things up and over 
cooking until I got the hang of it. I think it's got a 1250 wat capacity 
This one is a beast, so if countertop space is an issue, then maybe the smaller 
version would be a safer bet.
I'm not really aware of an iPhone connected model. I guess Alexa connected 
devices maybe? Couldn't say since I'm not into the Alexa eco system.

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Subject: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

Hi, list. 
I am about to purchase a new microwave and am wondering if access through my 
iPhone is the best way to go, as most models are touch screen now and don’t 
have speech access, and so would need to be labeled. 
What app would I need and can it be set up easily? 
I have an 8 Plus phone and a 17 inch counter space. 
Bill Outman 


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Re: Microwave ovens and iPhone control

[Holly]

I don't know about an iPhone compatible microwave, but know that there are 
Amazon Echo compatible ones that work with Alexa and voice control. 


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Re: Emoji keyboard in iOS 13 and language confusion when dictating

[Rafał Marzec]

I’ve got the same problem with dictation in other language

I think it should be reported to Apple as soon as possible
Sent from my iPhone

> On 10 Oct 2019, at 6:36 am, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> I could swear I remember hearing in the June keynote when iOS 13 was 
> introduced that there was supposed to be a separate button to switch to the 
> emoji keyboard instead of using the main keyboard selector button.
> Does anybody recall that as well? I have the English and German keyboards 
> installed and would love it if I could simply double tap the button to switch 
> back and forth, but as soon as a third keyboard layout like emoji is also 
> selected, you have to double tap and slide up until you find the one you 
> want, at least for me this seems the easiest way.
>  
> I also seem to have a problem where very often when the keyboard is set to 
> English and I dictate something, SIRI tries to interpret what I say in 
> English as German and the resulting text is complete gobbledygook. Sometimes 
> switching to German and back to English fixes this or sometimes if I start a 
> very simple English sentence which it gets right and then continue it also 
> continues in English, but it’s super annoying. I even completely turned off 
> dictation and Hey SIRI which basically means turning off SIRI, I was told 
> that this would delete any information from Apple servers and I said to go 
> ahead, then I retrained Hey SIRI again to my voice and turned on dictation, 
> but still it does this. Has anybody else encountered this, I have not seen 
> any posts about this.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Matti Jatkola]

Hi, 

My experience of Voice Dream Scanner app is very positive. (Have used a 
flatbed-scanner with PC for decades, and was very skeptic if ever would move to 
scanning in a mobile-phone, in my case Iphone SE.)

For example, Voice Dream Scanner manages to identify text in a CD-cover mostly 
correctly. Often those covers have very small print and a couple of shifting 
colour-backgrounds. That is why I directly found it as a step ahed that I can 
scan a CD-cover without PC, just with an Iphone. 

Also, I find the app smart because the audible signal measuring the accuracy is 
so intuitive. I mean we blind users skip to listen VoiceOver to talk numeric 
analysis of the accuracy. You can move the camera of the mobile right just 
following the level of the signal measuring accuracy.

Regards, 
Matti

> Terri Stimmel  kirjoitti 10.10.2019 kello 21.46:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I was considering purchasing Voicedream scanner. I haven’t ever used this 
> before.
> 
> For those of you who use it, what do you think about it?
> What are some things you like about it?
> And what are some things you don’t like about it?
> 
> Also, if I find a PDF online, could I somehow download it to Voicedream 
> scanner, and read it?
> If so, how might I do this?
> 
> Any help, or thoughts about this App is much appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Terri
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Microwave ovens and iPhone control

[Bill Outman]

Hi, list. 
I am about to purchase a new microwave and am wondering if access through my 
iPhone is the best way to go, as most models are touch screen now and don’t 
have speech access, and so would need to be labeled. 
What app would I need and can it be set up easily? 
I have an 8 Plus phone and a 17 inch counter space. 
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Re: Voicedream scanner questions

[Richard Turner]

In my opinion, it is the best OCR app you could buy.
My only wish is that it could handle columns.
But, if it is text in paragraph format, it is brilliant.
If you also have Voice Dream Reader, you could put the PDF in it, and then it 
would use Voice Dream Scanner to recognize the document.
I've not tried to open a PDF from the web directly with Voice Dream Scanner 
though if it showed up in the share sheet, that would work.




Richard
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On Oct 10, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Terri Stimmel  wrote:

Hello everyone,

I was considering purchasing Voicedream scanner. I haven’t ever used this 
before.

For those of you who use it, what do you think about it?
What are some things you like about it?
And what are some things you don’t like about it?

Also, if I find a PDF online, could I somehow download it to Voicedream 
scanner, and read it?
If so, how might I do this?

Any help, or thoughts about this App is much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Voicedream scanner questions

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I was considering purchasing Voicedream scanner. I haven’t ever used this 
before.

For those of you who use it, what do you think about it?
What are some things you like about it?
And what are some things you don’t like about it?

Also, if I find a PDF online, could I somehow download it to Voicedream 
scanner, and read it?
If so, how might I do this?

Any help, or thoughts about this App is much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: keyboards?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Ok, thanks for that.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: keyboards?


If you get Apple's USB to Lightning camera cable you can plug any USB keyboard 
into an iPhone.
Of course I find pairing a Bluetooth keyboard to an iPhone is very easy and 
it's very robust, e.g. I have had my Logitech K780 
paired to my iPhone 8 from just after I got my iPhone a year ago and any time I 
press FN + F2 which switches it from my PC to my 
iPhone it's just there, it never seems to unpair or fail.


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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboards?

Are there hardware keyboards that plug into the same socket as the charging 
lead, forgot what that is called now.  But an hw 
keyboard on a lead I can plug into any of the devices without all this BT 
pairing mode business.

Thanks, RobH.

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Re: Responding to a text with a phone call

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

On my phone, I open the list showing the text in question,   at the top of the 
screen is a contact button, and tapping that offers 
you all the contact things including call.
There is also  Done button to back out of there and when you're done.

Hth.

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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 6:43 PM
Subject: Responding to a text with a phone call


Hello,

I’ve done this once before but it must have been dumb luck since I can’t seem 
to find the call button to reply to a text message.

Can anyone tell me where it is?

Thank you,

Kim

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whatsapp does not appear to fully respect do not disturb

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

Where I see this is with whatsapp video calls. My phone is in do not disturb 
much of the time and whatsapp audio calls do not break through. However, video 
calls get past the do not disturb function. Anyone else seen this behavior?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: keyboards?

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

I could have used your help with that keyboard about a week ago. I wasn't 
sure what was what with it so I sent it back. For example, I could not work 
out how to open apps with the thing. I assumed after the fact that to open 
the apps, it was up and down at the same time. I could get into the app 
switcher but could not close an open app. There was of course no book with 
the thing so I am not sure where I was going wrong with that keyboard. I 
liked the concept though.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:08
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: keyboards?

If you get Apple's USB to Lightning camera cable you can plug any USB 
keyboard into an iPhone.
Of course I find pairing a Bluetooth keyboard to an iPhone is very easy and 
it's very robust, e.g. I have had my Logitech K780 paired to my iPhone 8 
from just after I got my iPhone a year ago and any time I press FN + F2 
which switches it from my PC to my iPhone it's just there, it never seems to 
unpair or fail.



-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboards?

Are there hardware keyboards that plug into the same socket as the charging 
lead, forgot what that is called now.  But an hw keyboard on a lead I can 
plug into any of the devices without all this BT pairing mode business.


Thanks, RobH.

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Latest Texas Hold’em update

[Kelly Ford]

The update description for the latest release of Apple’s Texas Hold’em game 
mentions VoiceOver improvements. I am finding the opposite with none of the 
automatic announcements happening from the game. What are others finding?

Kelly



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Responding to a text with a phone call

['Kimberly Samco' via VIPhone]

Hello,

I’ve done this once before but it must have been dumb luck since I can’t seem 
to find the call button to reply to a text message.

Can anyone tell me where it is?

Thank you,

Kim

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Lookin for list of keystrokes for smart connect keyboard

[Gery Gaubert]

Sent from my iPadI purchased the ipad 7th gen and the apple smart connect 
keyboard.  Does anyone know where a complete list of keystrokes would be?

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RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

So going down a rabbit-hole now, I downloaded the California lottery iOS app. 
It seems accessible enough. You can check out all the games state-wide and 
nationally and their results, but there doesn't appear to be any means to 
actually buy a ticket or play any of the games.

Poking around online, there actually appear to be all sorts of sites and 
services to purchase lottery tickets from all kinds of games. There are even 
sites dedicated to ranking the best and most trustworthy companies to play 
with. I mean really, who knew... 

I'll pass along this info to him, but again, as I originally asked, if there's 
anyone who has played or used any of these online services in an accessible 
manner, it would be good to know as well.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

Here in Canada you can buy any of the lottery tickets online (Lottomax, 6-49 
etc.) at the website PlayNow  .

What I don’t know is whether this website is available in the US and offers you 
lottery tickets from US and local lotteries there.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

Interesting question.  I think this may be difficult to find.  When we order 
from our local grocery store using Instacart, we aren't allowed to request that 
they bring lottery tickets as part of the order.  I'm not sure why, but there 
you go.  You would think it should be possible for a third party to do this, 
but I am not aware of a way.

 

Pam

 

 



From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Cristobal Muñoz 
[cristobalm...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:32 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

I don’t know his exact and particular day to day circumstances other than he’s 
a bachelor, but I guess physically going to pick one up consistently or as 
frequently as he’d like isn’t an option for him.

For those who live in So Cal and are familiar with the area, he lives in San 
Bernardino which isn’t the most welcoming or safest place to be wandering 
around either.

Not to be throwing his business all out there, but his vision loss is 
progressive. I suppose previously he had enough sight to get by, but now… 
Anyway, thought I’d do a friend a solid and ask around.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:02 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com  

Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com%3cmailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
 


Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

 

Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an iOS 
app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Here in Canada you can buy any of the lottery tickets online (Lottomax, 6-49 
etc.) at the website PlayNow.

What I don’t know is whether this website is available in the US and offers you 
lottery tickets from US and local lotteries there.



Regards,

Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 9:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?



Interesting question.  I think this may be difficult to find.  When we order 
from our local grocery store using Instacart, we aren't allowed to request that 
they bring lottery tickets as part of the order.  I'm not sure why, but there 
you go.  You would think it should be possible for a third party to do this, 
but I am not aware of a way.



Pam







From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Cristobal Muñoz [cristobalm...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:32 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?



I don’t know his exact and particular day to day circumstances other than he’s 
a bachelor, but I guess physically going to pick one up consistently or as 
frequently as he’d like isn’t an option for him.

For those who live in So Cal and are familiar with the area, he lives in San 
Bernardino which isn’t the most welcoming or safest place to be wandering 
around either.

Not to be throwing his business all out there, but his vision loss is 
progressive. I suppose previously he had enough sight to get by, but now… 
Anyway, thought I’d do a friend a solid and ask around.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:02 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?



I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?



Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an iOS 
app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.



Thanks,



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Re: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

[Holly]

Shirley:

You don't have to put in any symbols.  They will be separated automatically.

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RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

Interesting question.  I think this may be difficult to find.  When we order 
from our local grocery store using Instacart, we aren't allowed to request that 
they bring lottery tickets as part of the order.  I'm not sure why, but there 
you go.  You would think it should be possible for a third party to do this, 
but I am not aware of a way.

Pam



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
Cristobal Muñoz [cristobalm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

I don’t know his exact and particular day to day circumstances other than he’s 
a bachelor, but I guess physically going to pick one up consistently or as 
frequently as he’d like isn’t an option for him.
For those who live in So Cal and are familiar with the area, he lives in San 
Bernardino which isn’t the most welcoming or safest place to be wandering 
around either.
Not to be throwing his business all out there, but his vision loss is 
progressive. I suppose previously he had enough sight to get by, but now…
Anyway, thought I’d do a friend a solid and ask around.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

Hello list,
So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.
I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.
Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.
If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an iOS 
app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

Thanks,

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RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I find a hard reset is the quickest way for a blind person to fix this, if it 
happens on my iPhon e8 I press Volume Up, Volume Down and then press and hold 
the power button for about 12 seconds and within 10 or so seconds my iPhone is 
back up. It's annoying, but I find I can do the hard reset a lot  more reliably 
than to turn the phone off and back on without feedback whether the Power Off 
button showed up.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Angie 
Nutt
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

The only thing stopping me from upgrading is the losing sound when ending a 
call thing; would hate that to happen when out alone. Otherwise I’m looking 
forward to getting my hands on iOS 13

All the best
Angie


> On 9 Oct 2019, at 18:58, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi I also am waiting to update. Yes there are ones of you who are 
> doing it and sharing the bugs with Apple and I thank you for that. I 
> just not a person who wants any problems only a few years in and just 
> want tech to work all the time. Louise and princess Kiara
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> My Iphone 8 is running 12.41 and I'm not upgrading until some of these major 
> bugs are getting fixed.  I only had one reminder about the update yesterday.  
> I also found remind me later and just for referrence, don't enter in your 
> passcode if you're prompted for it.
> My iPhone 8 is working just fine, and I see no need to update at this time.  
> I'm so glad I got on this list so I can be warned about things like major 
> bugs and so on.  Granted, I don't really use my phone to check email, but I 
> really don't like the thought of voiceover shutting down after a phone call.  
> Until that is fixed for sure, I'm not upgrading.  I'd recommend not to update 
> just yet.  A lot of my friends are also waiting to update as well.
> 
> On 10/9/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
>> Good morning all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped 
>> on "later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me 
>> alone for a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and
>> elsewhere) about people having a hard time with this upgrade, it 
>> occurred to me that it might be a good idea to hold off until they 
>> get some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very nicely with 
>> 12.2 and I'm one of those who does not need the latest and greatest 
>> just because it's the latest and greatest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I 
>> will get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the 
>> ostrich?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Susie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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RE: keyboards?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you get Apple's USB to Lightning camera cable you can plug any USB keyboard 
into an iPhone.
Of course I find pairing a Bluetooth keyboard to an iPhone is very easy and 
it's very robust, e.g. I have had my Logitech K780 paired to my iPhone 8 from 
just after I got my iPhone a year ago and any time I press FN + F2 which 
switches it from my PC to my iPhone it's just there, it never seems to unpair 
or fail.


-Original Message-
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 1:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboards?

Are there hardware keyboards that plug into the same socket as the charging 
lead, forgot what that is called now.  But an hw keyboard on a lead I can plug 
into any of the devices without all this BT pairing mode business.

Thanks, RobH. 

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Re: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

[Shirley Baker]

When entering the names manually, do you separate them by a comma or semicolon?

Sent from my iPhone

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> Suzy:
> 
> Also, if you want to enter the recipients manually, just tap on 'compose a 
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> 'add a contact' and find another recipient and double tap on their number, 
> then tap ' add contact' again to add someone else and so on. 
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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

[Wayne Merritt]

Carolyn: Going to settings and then control center will only let you
set options and customize the control center; you can't actually get
to it that way. To access it, you would have to use the 3 finger swipe
down from the status bar, or the VoiceOver gesture for phones without
a Home button where you swipe down from the top of the screen. The
control center is the second vibration. This is only for newer
devices.

Wayne

On 10/10/19, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> Glad to hear that it worked for you.
>
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> On Oct 10, 2019, at 3:42 AM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
>  wrote:
>
> 
> interesting you say that. It occurred to me to try that after I sent my last
> reply. It worked. Also a bit more on the keyboard issue. Originally, I
> thought I could only delete messages to which I had responded by closing and
> reopening the messages app. Seems that’s not the case. While the screen does
> jump away from the delete and cancel buttons, you can get back to those
> buttons by using the right arrow key. I think I may be sending apple another
> screenshot.
>
> From: Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 01:04
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center
>
> Hi,
> Enable assistive  touch. It’s a Icón that will appear on screen. Explore by
> dragging to locate once enabled. This feature will help you. Go to settings,
> accessibility, touch, assitive touch and enable then locate icon and double
> tap.
>
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> On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:52 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
>  wrote:
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> 
> one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get
> 2 to move in a coordinated way.
>
> From: Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center
>
> 
>
> 1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
> -- Jane Wagner
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>
> On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
>  wrote:
>
> 
> Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there
> another way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination
> to make that swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me
> there. in that case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing
> the letter m with no result.
> Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

[Feliciano Godoy]

Glad to hear that it worked for you.

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On Oct 10, 2019, at 3:42 AM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


interesting you say that. It occurred to me to try that after I sent my last 
reply. It worked. Also a bit more on the keyboard issue. Originally, I thought 
I could only delete messages to which I had responded by closing and reopening 
the messages app. Seems that’s not the case. While the screen does jump away 
from the delete and cancel buttons, you can get back to those buttons by using 
the right arrow key. I think I may be sending apple another screenshot.

From: Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 01:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

Hi,
Enable assistive  touch. It’s a Icón that will appear on screen. Explore by 
dragging to locate once enabled. This feature will help you. Go to settings, 
accessibility, touch, assitive touch and enable then locate icon and double tap.


Feliciano
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On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:52 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get 2 
to move in a coordinated way.

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center



1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up






Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner


On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA
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RE: Undelivered text messages

[Carolyn Arnold]

I had two yesterday that were said to be undelivered, but got answers to both. 
Go figure. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carla
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Undelivered text messages

I get a lot of these undelivered messages.  This is the worse upgrade ever!  
Just sayin!
 
Carla
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karl 
Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Undelivered text messages
 
I have a couple of people in my contact list who, whenever I send them a text 
message it comes back immediately as undelivered. If I go back into the message 
and hit the try again button it sends just fine. Any idea why this might be?
 
Karl
 
 
 
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RE: alternate ways to get to the control center

[Carolyn Arnold]

You can go to Settings and get into Control Center.  It is just past General. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get 2 
to move in a coordinated way.
 
From: Richard Turner   
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center
 
 

1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up

 





 
 
Richard
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Jane Wagner
 


On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there 
another way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to 
make that swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in 
that case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m 
with no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
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RE: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

[Carolyn Arnold]

Siri can do it, Susie. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Susie Stageberg
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sending a text to more than one person at a time

How do I send a text message to more than one recipient at a time? Can Siri do 
this? If I do it manually, how do I separate the recipients?
  Many thanks.

Susie


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RE: Undelivered text messages

[Carla]

I get a lot of these undelivered messages.  This is the worse upgrade ever!  
Just sayin!
 
Carla
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karl 
Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 7:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Undelivered text messages
 
I have a couple of people in my contact list who, whenever I send them a text 
message it comes back immediately as undelivered. If I go back into the message 
and hit the try again button it sends just fine. Any idea why this might be?
 
Karl
 
 
 
__
 
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Access Technology Consultant
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84129
 
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RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

[Cristobal Muñoz]

I don’t know his exact and particular day to day circumstances other than he’s 
a bachelor, but I guess physically going to pick one up consistently or as 
frequently as he’d like isn’t an option for him.

For those who live in So Cal and are familiar with the area, he lives in San 
Bernardino which isn’t the most welcoming or safest place to be wandering 
around either. 

Not to be throwing his business all out there, but his vision loss is 
progressive. I suppose previously he had enough sight to get by, but now…

Anyway, thought I’d do a friend a solid and ask around.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets 
online?

 

I assume the fact that he is asking friends or family to buy for him means he 
doesn’t like to or is not able to go out himself? There are a lot of places 
where you can buy a lottery ticket, here in Canada at most drug stores, 
7-Eleven stores etc.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Accessible and on the level service for buying lottery tickets online?

 

Hello list,

So not for me, but rather a friend who is visually impaired. He’s tired of 
asking friends/family to buy him a lottery ticket and being told that it’s out 
of their way or they don’t’ have time etc. I don’t really play so have never 
looked into anything like this, so I told him I’d ask in case anyone plays 
lotto and how they buy their tickets.

I think I’ve heard of online lotto ticket buying services in the past, but 
again, never paid it much mind.

Does anyone on here play? This is for California. I don’t know if he plays the 
state lotto or just powerball or whatever, but I guess to be on the safe side, 
something that covers the national and California  super lotto games. 
Trustworthy, accessible and on the level and all that.

If so, what service do you use? I think he’s got an iPhone so if there’s an iOS 
app that can accomplish the same it would be good to know as well.

 

Thanks,

 

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RE: Undelivered text messages

[sherrywells1157]

There was a long discussion of this problem recently.  Are the ones not sending 
by any chance Android users?  It seems to be a common problem that when you 
send to an Android user the message says undeliverable.  Some people reported 
that the message did go through in spite of the undeliverable message.  It 
seems that once a message is in your message app, it will send fine in 
subsequent tries to that person.  Also, someone said it will work if you use 
the send message / dictate option rather than Siri.

 

Sherry Wells

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of karl 
Smith
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 10:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Undelivered text messages

 

I have a couple of people in my contact list who, whenever I send them a text 
message it comes back immediately as undelivered. If I go back into the message 
and hit the try again button it sends just fine. Any idea why this might be?

 

Karl

 

 

 

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Undelivered text messages

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I have a couple of people in my contact list who, whenever I send them a
text message it comes back immediately as undelivered. If I go back into the
message and hit the try again button it sends just fine. Any idea why this
might be?

 

Karl

 

 

 

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4304 South El Camino St.

Taylorsville, Utah 84129

 

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Davy Cuppens]

It will certainly redownload the package even if you don't wish that!

The only way is to deny the terms and conditions each time you are prompted 
to update even if you chose to update later. I have it had now two times.

Davy

-Oorspronkelijk bericht- 
From: Maria Reyes

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 10:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Hi, You can go into settings, general, software update and at the bottom of 
the screen is a toggle that says automatic updates. Toggle that to off. It 
shouldn't download it again if you delete the update from storage.


want to join my WhatsApp group VIP Apple Users? Email me privately and I 
will happily add you.

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On Oct 9, 2019, at 3:26 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net> 
wrote:


Some time, when I have no Voice Over, I ask Siri the temperature or how 
many m iles from here to Washington, D>C>, then flick and read what she 
brings up on the Internet. Sometimes that works; sometimes it does not.


Best regards,

Carolyn


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

Susie,



I've never believed that taking care with updates is an ostrich move. I've 
been using computers since the IBM PC came out in 1981 and after many 
update cycles, I've concluded that a large majority of the updates have 
caused more issues than provided features that I couldn't live without. 
I'm also waiting until iOS 13.x has a release with fewer bugs for 
Voiceover users. I use the FlickType third party keyboard for the majority 
of my iPhone input and I need it to work better with iOS than what I'm 
hearing how it works with the current iOS 13.1.2. I've also gotten that 
prompt to install the iOS 13.1.2 download and after declining it now for 
three times, I went into Settings, General, iPhone storage, iOS 13.1.2, 
and deleted the download. As Dave said, it will no doubt download again 
but at least I've cleared out that almost 2GB of storage and it shouldn't 
be prompting me to install anything until it downloads again.




Alan Lemly



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Susie Stageberg

Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question



Good morning all.



My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped on 
“later” and then “disagree”, I hopes this would make it leave me alone for 
a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and elsewhere) about 
people having a hard time with this upgrade, it occurred to me that it 
might be a good idea to hold off until they get some of this stuff fixed. 
I am running along very nicely with 12.2 and I’m one of those who does not 
need the latest and greatest just because it’s the latest and greatest.




Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I will 
get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the 
ostrich?




Susie







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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

I actually tried that before enabling assistive touch but all I was able to do 
was get it to scroll the screen maybe, I have the wrong idea of a swipe.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 01:27
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: alternate ways to get to the control center

Touch something in the status bar like the time, then put 3 fingers on the 
screen near the bottom and swipe up

 

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: alternate ways to get to the control center

 

Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

interesting you say that. It occurred to me to try that after I sent my last 
reply. It worked. Also a bit more on the keyboard issue. Originally, I thought 
I could only delete messages to which I had responded by closing and reopening 
the messages app. Seems that’s not the case. While the screen does jump away 
from the delete and cancel buttons, you can get back to those buttons by using 
the right arrow key. I think I may be sending apple another screenshot.

From: Feliciano Godoy 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 01:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

Hi, 
Enable assistive  touch. It’s a Icón that will appear on screen. Explore by 
dragging to locate once enabled. This feature will help you. Go to settings, 
accessibility, touch, assitive touch and enable then locate icon and double tap.



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  On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:52 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


   
  one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get 
2 to move in a coordinated way.

  From: Richard Turner 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

   1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up
   




   




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Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there 
another way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to 
make that swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in 
that case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m 
with no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: keyboards?

['Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone]

I'm not aware of any but that may come to the upgraded I Pad.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 04:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboards?

Are there hardware keyboards that plug into the same socket as the charging 
lead, forgot what that is called now.  But an hw
keyboard on a lead I can plug into any of the devices without all this BT 
pairing mode business.


Thanks, RobH.

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Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question

[Angie Nutt]

The only thing stopping me from upgrading is the losing sound when ending a 
call thing; would hate that to happen when out alone. Otherwise I’m looking 
forward to getting my hands on iOS 13

All the best
Angie


> On 9 Oct 2019, at 18:58, Louise Johnson  wrote:
> 
> Hi I also am waiting to update. Yes there are ones of you who are doing it 
> and sharing the bugs with Apple and I thank you for that. I just not a person 
> who wants any problems only a few years in and just want tech to work all the 
> time. Louise and princess Kiara 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: To Upgrade or not to Upgrade, that is the Question
> 
> My Iphone 8 is running 12.41 and I'm not upgrading until some of these major 
> bugs are getting fixed.  I only had one reminder about the update yesterday.  
> I also found remind me later and just for referrence, don't enter in your 
> passcode if you're prompted for it.
> My iPhone 8 is working just fine, and I see no need to update at this time.  
> I'm so glad I got on this list so I can be warned about things like major 
> bugs and so on.  Granted, I don't really use my phone to check email, but I 
> really don't like the thought of voiceover shutting down after a phone call.  
> Until that is fixed for sure, I'm not upgrading.  I'd recommend not to update 
> just yet.  A lot of my friends are also waiting to update as well.
> 
> On 10/9/19, Susie Stageberg  wrote:
>> Good morning all.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My iPhone 7S came up and offered me the upgrade last night. I tapped 
>> on "later" and then "disagree", I hopes this would make it leave me 
>> alone for a while. From reading all the posts on this list (and 
>> elsewhere) about people having a hard time with this upgrade, it 
>> occurred to me that it might be a good idea to hold off until they get 
>> some of this stuff fixed. I am running along very nicely with 12.2 and 
>> I'm one of those who does not need the latest and greatest just 
>> because it's the latest and greatest.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Is this an ostrich move? Am I deluded in thinking that by delaying I 
>> will get a better product when I do upgrade? And how long do I play the 
>> ostrich?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Susie
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." -Eleanor 
>> Roosevelt
>> 
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keyboards?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Are there hardware keyboards that plug into the same socket as the charging 
lead, forgot what that is called now.  But an hw 
keyboard on a lead I can plug into any of the devices without all this BT 
pairing mode business.

Thanks, RobH. 

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