Fwd: New Mailing List to Discuss the Zoom Platform

[Richard Turner]

> The message below was forwarded from David Goldfield's message to another 
> list.
Hello
> . So many of us are spending more time in our homes. Some of us may be 
> working from home while others, though they may not currently be employed,
> are using their technology even more. So many individuals and organizations 
> are hosting conferences using the Zoom Cloud Meetings platform. Many people
> are receiving invitations to these conferences and are finding themselves 
> using Zoom for the first time. While Zoom is very accessible with screen 
> readers
> there's still a lot to learn and many of us have questions that we would like 
> answers to.
> 
> To that end I have created a mailing list for people to ask questions and to 
> provide support on how to use the Zoom program.
> 
> I currently have just two rules that I'd like all users to follow.
> 
> 1. All messages should be relevant to Zoom. This can include Zoom on Windows, 
> Mac, iOS or Android.
> 
> 2. No harassment or rudeness of any kind will be tolerated.
> 
> To join the group, send an email to
> 
> zoom-users+subscr...@groups.io
> 
> To send a message to the group the email address to use is
> 
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RE: A Question About Blindfold Games and Ear Oppoly for iOS, Do the Bundles Include Unlimitted Play?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Bacia,

As it turns out, you are absolutely correct.

I purchased the $14.99 bundle for Ear Oppoly and all is perfect.  

I also downloaded the Roulette game and it is one of the most addictive games 
I've played in years.  I purchased the in-app unlimited play bundle for that 
game, also.  Marvelous.

Mark

-Original Message-
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dacia.l...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Daniel Macdonald
Subject: Re: A Question About Blindfold Games and Ear Oppoly for iOS, Do the 
Bundles Include Unlimitted Play?

I think to purchase the unlimited option for Ear Oppoly, you do it through the 
Ear Oppoly in app purchases, I think the bundles for the RS games are strictly 
for the ones that you play online.
Dacia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> When my Mac was getting fist, I bought every single game on RS Games in the 
> iOS app. There’s a bundle to get them all, but it doesn’t exactly work 
> correctly. Some games you have to buy when it’s supposed to work with the 
> bundle. I spent  $70 before everything was done.  The app is just called rs 
> games. It is by Kid Friendly Software, and to by the games in the app you 
> have to be loved on to the rs games server. Once logged on, go back to the 
> previous screen, and select, buy or upgrade game. All the bundles are there 
> and just select the one to buy them all. Then go there again, and the 
> individual games you buy at this point are left centre right, slot machines, 
> and ruleset .
> Regards,
> Daniel
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there an iOSApp for RSS Games  in the AppStore? If so,  Can 
>>> SomeOne (please) Help me Locate it? By providing me with its  Name & 
>>> the AppDeveloper's Name too
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> At 09:43 AM 3/29/2020, you wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Well, last night I downloaded the RS Games client for iOS and I also 
>>> downloaded Ear Oppoly, which was developed by Kid Friendly Software, 
>>> which, as it turns out, is owned by RS Games.
>>> 
>>> For those who may not know, Ear Oppoly is a fully VoiceOver 
>>> accessible Monopoly game.  I must admit that Ear Oppoly is quite 
>>> addicting, to say the least.
>>> 
>>> From within the RS Games client, in the in-app purchase area, one 
>>> can purchase bundles of game upgrades, including Monopoly.  Do these 
>>> bundles include the Kid Friendly apps such as Ear Oppoly? Or are 
>>> they only referring to the RS Games that can be played from within the 
>>> client, online?
>>> 
>>> From within Ear Oppoly, itself, you see, there are other in-app 
>>> purchases including an unlimited play package, for $14.99 which I am 
>>> more than happy to purchase so long as I am clear that doing so will 
>>> not be redundant or in anyway will conflict with the Bundle purchase 
>>> offered from within RS Games which costs $37.99.
>>> 
>>> While I am delighted that we have these games available to us, I 
>>> wish that the offerings were more clearly distinguished.
>>> 
>>> By the way, does anyone have a phone number or email address I can 
>>> use to contact the developers?  I have sent an email to 
>>> supp...@kidfriendlysoftware.com, but have no idea if this is a 
>>> current email alternative.
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Mark
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RE: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song

[Richard Turner]

Well, I have an SE, which is older than your 7.
I’ll test again to be sure.


Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song

Hi, Richard,  When I upgraded to iOS 13.4,the Radar sound still went off.  I 
did reboot the phone again last night and I'll try the alarm again tomorrow 
morning.  Could it be that my phone is too old, as I have a 7+?  Anyway, thanks 
for your advice.

Esther
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+


On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I just tested it today and with iOS 13.4, the song I picked, played and no 
radar.



Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song

I'm catching up on my mail and found this message. I experience this issue 
whenever I get a new phone, or occasionally after an iOS update.
It is annoying, but usually I have to set the song again and it stays that way. 
Not sure if it is related to the issue or not, but if after you update the 
phone, if you then close all apps, shut the phone down, and start it up fresh, 
does the issue still occur? Though the radar does get me up, I would much 
rather hear my own songs verses that annoying radar.

Hang in there and be well,
Wayne

On 3/10/20, Esther mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> 
wrote:

wow! It's happening to you too? I am going to call Apple accessibility
as well. Thanks for letting me know. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Ha ha!
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+

On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:33 AM, Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>>
wrote:

 Well, I just did an experiment and you are right.
I set a new alarm, picked a song from my iPhone library.
And, instead of playing the song, it played the default irritating
sound file.
I'll write Apple Accessibility and also go to the apple.com/feedback
site and enter a comment.
I don't know if this is a change with iOS 13, or what.



Richard
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On Mar 9, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Esther 
mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:



Hi, Everyone,

When I set up an alarm to awaken me in the morning, I usually like
to hear a particular song I have chosen from my music library and I
save that particular alarm time.  I've never had difficulty with the
song I have chosen until recently.  When I set the alarm at night,
it shows the particular song I have chosen, yet when my alarm sounds
in the morning, it plays the default tone, which is Radar, rather
than the song I have chosen.  I've tried, to no avail, to delete the
alarm and set it up again and it always shows the song, but when the
alarm sounds, it still plays the default Radar sound.  I don't know what I am 
doing wrong.

Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.

Thanks.

Esther Levegnale

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
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Re: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song

[Esther]

Hi, Richard,  When I upgraded to iOS 13.4,the Radar sound still went off.  I 
did reboot the phone again last night and I'll try the alarm again tomorrow 
morning.  Could it be that my phone is too old, as I have a 7+?  Anyway, thanks 
for your advice.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I just tested it today and with iOS 13.4, the song I picked, played and no 
> radar.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 12:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Dilemma with Wake-up Alarm Song
> 
> I'm catching up on my mail and found this message. I experience this issue 
> whenever I get a new phone, or occasionally after an iOS update.
> It is annoying, but usually I have to set the song again and it stays that 
> way. Not sure if it is related to the issue or not, but if after you update 
> the phone, if you then close all apps, shut the phone down, and start it up 
> fresh, does the issue still occur? Though the radar does get me up, I would 
> much rather hear my own songs verses that annoying radar.
> 
> Hang in there and be well,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 3/10/20, Esther  wrote:
>> wow! It's happening to you too? I am going to call Apple accessibility 
>> as well. Thanks for letting me know. I'm glad I'm not the only one! Ha ha!
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:33 AM, Richard Turner 
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Well, I just did an experiment and you are right.
>>> I set a new alarm, picked a song from my iPhone library.
>>> And, instead of playing the song, it played the default irritating 
>>> sound file.
>>> I'll write Apple Accessibility and also go to the apple.com/feedback 
>>> site and enter a comment.
>>> I don't know if this is a change with iOS 13, or what.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "There's a nap for that."
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Check out my web site at: 
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.turner42.com;
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>>> %2FlWFaBQGFwQUr8HRT9ND4FEgDruei807x0%3Dreserved=0
>>> “
>>> 
>>> 
> On Mar 9, 2020, at 7:46 PM, Esther  wrote:
> 
 
 
 Hi, Everyone,
 
 When I set up an alarm to awaken me in the morning, I usually like 
 to hear a particular song I have chosen from my music library and I 
 save that particular alarm time.  I've never had difficulty with the 
 song I have chosen until recently.  When I set the alarm at night, 
 it shows the particular song I have chosen, yet when my alarm sounds 
 in the morning, it plays the default tone, which is Radar, rather 
 than the song I have chosen.  I've tried, to no avail, to delete the 
 alarm and set it up again and it always shows the song, but when the 
 alarm sounds, it still plays the default Radar sound.  I don't know what I 
 am doing wrong.
 
 Any suggestions would certainly be appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Esther Levegnale
 
 Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+
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Re: A Question About Blindfold Games and Ear Oppoly for iOS, Do the Bundles Include Unlimitted Play?

[dacia . luck]

I think to purchase the unlimited option for Ear Oppoly, you do it through the 
Ear Oppoly in app purchases, I think the bundles for the RS games are strictly 
for the ones that you play online.
Dacia

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Daniel MacDonald 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello there,
> 
> When my Mac was getting fist, I bought every single game on RS Games in the 
> iOS app. There’s a bundle to get them all, but it doesn’t exactly work 
> correctly. Some games you have to buy when it’s supposed to work with the 
> bundle. I spent  $70 before everything was done.  The app is just called rs 
> games. It is by Kid Friendly Software, and to by the games in the app you 
> have to be loved on to the rs games server. Once logged on, go back to the 
> previous screen, and select, buy or upgrade game. All the bundles are there 
> and just select the one to buy them all. Then go there again, and the 
> individual games you buy at this point are left centre right, slot machines, 
> and ruleset .
> Regards,
> Daniel
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there an iOSApp for RSS Games  in the AppStore? If so,  Can SomeOne 
>>> (please) Help me Locate it? By providing me with its  Name & the 
>>> AppDeveloper's Name too
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> At 09:43 AM 3/29/2020, you wrote:
>>> Hello Everyone,
>>> 
>>> Well, last night I downloaded the RS Games client for iOS and I also
>>> downloaded Ear Oppoly, which was developed by Kid Friendly Software, which,
>>> as it turns out, is owned by RS Games.
>>> 
>>> For those who may not know, Ear Oppoly is a fully VoiceOver accessible
>>> Monopoly game.  I must admit that Ear Oppoly is quite addicting, to say the
>>> least.
>>> 
>>> From within the RS Games client, in the in-app purchase area, one can
>>> purchase bundles of game upgrades, including Monopoly.  Do these bundles
>>> include the Kid Friendly apps such as Ear Oppoly? Or are they only referring
>>> to the RS Games that can be played from within the client, online?
>>> 
>>> From within Ear Oppoly, itself, you see, there are other in-app purchases
>>> including an unlimited play package, for $14.99 which I am more than happy
>>> to purchase so long as I am clear that doing so will not be redundant or in
>>> anyway will conflict with the Bundle purchase offered from within RS Games
>>> which costs $37.99.
>>> 
>>> While I am delighted that we have these games available to us, I wish that
>>> the offerings were more clearly distinguished.
>>> 
>>> By the way, does anyone have a phone number or email address I can use to
>>> contact the developers?  I have sent an email to
>>> supp...@kidfriendlysoftware.com, but have no idea if this is a current email
>>> alternative.
>>> 
>>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
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Re: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

[Richard Turner]

Thanks Alan, that is good information.
More than I knew, which isn't saying much when it comes to twitter.

Richard
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On Mar 29, 2020, at 12:45 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi Richard,

Thanks for your reply. I don't use MBraille but I spoke with my sighted son who 
tweets from time to time and got enough of a Twitter overview to successfully 
post my tweet to Kroger Support. I'll summarize my experience below for the 
unfortunate who think as I do when trying to tweet.

My first mistake was thinking that a tweet is addressed to a particular 
addressee like an email is. While this is true with Twitter direct messaging, 
with Twitter in general, you are really just posting to a giant electronic 
bulletin board and those that follow you are notified of your tweets for review 
if desired. You can search particular folks on Twitter and when you get their 
Twitter handles or user IDs which begin with the @ sign, you can tweet 
something on their page for their attention. Also, my son told me that when you 
execute the Compose tweet button in the bottom right corner of the Twitter home 
screen, you will be placed in a text box containing the dimmed words what's 
happening. If you know the Twitter handle of who you wish to tweet, you can 
type it here followed by a space and the words you wish to tweet. So, in my 
case, I typed @KrogerSupport followed by my message explaining the 
inaccessibility issue with the Kroger app. I believe you a limited to 285 
characters per tweet and I did not find that info readily available since I was 
typing using the FlickType keyboard but I kept my tweet as short as possible 
and ended up with 2 characters to spare.

I hope the above might help someone attempting to tweet and thanks again for 
your reply.

Alan Lemly

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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

Hi Alan,
It is rather frustrating.
I don’t think you would want to try dictating that long of a message with Siri.
Do you by chance use MBraille?
You could write your message and at the bottom write .tweet then the address to 
whom you are sending it and swipe down for a hard return which will open 
twitter and have your message ready to send.
MBraille has a lot of what he calls dot commands, which is the command preceded 
by a period.


HTH,
Richard
"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:02 AM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

Hi List,

I'll admit upfront that I don't find the native Twitter app very intuitive. I 
want to compose a new tweet to @KrogerSupport to report an issue with 
inaccessibility with their Kroger app. If you want to place an order for pickup 
or delivery with their app, apparently, there is a blue arrow in the center of 
the screen just above the bottomline menu that you must access in order to open 
the screen where you can specify whether you are picking up or requesting 
delivery of your order and also reserve your time if picking up. Unfortunately, 
this critical button is inaccessible and simply clicks followed by the words 
Action available possible text Brandon which is the name of my default Kroger 
store. However, if you double tap on this button when it has focus with 
Voiceover turned on, nothing happens. You must first turn off Voiceover and 
miraculously touch the button in order to proceed to the next screen where 
Voiceover can be turned back on and the order continued. I don't have to 
emphasize how critical during these times it is for the visually impaired 
community to be able to complete a grocery order.

This brings me to my question about reporting this issue to Kroger via Twitter 
since getting through to them on the phone is next to impossible. I have come 
up with their Twitter address which is @KrogerSupport. I simply want to launch 
the Twitter app and create a new tweet where I provide the address and the 
tweet text and then send it. Can someone give me the direct steps on how to do 
this? Is it not possible to generate a new tweet without going through some 
search routine and then selecting an address from some generated list? I'm not 
replying to any existing tweet threads and simply want to create a new one with 
the known recipient address. I find 

RE: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Richard,

 

Thanks for your reply. I don't use MBraille but I spoke with my sighted son who 
tweets from time to time and got enough of a Twitter overview to successfully 
post my tweet to Kroger Support. I'll summarize my experience below for the 
unfortunate who think as I do when trying to tweet.

 

My first mistake was thinking that a tweet is addressed to a particular 
addressee like an email is. While this is true with Twitter direct messaging, 
with Twitter in general, you are really just posting to a giant electronic 
bulletin board and those that follow you are notified of your tweets for review 
if desired. You can search particular folks on Twitter and when you get their 
Twitter handles or user IDs which begin with the @ sign, you can tweet 
something on their page for their attention. Also, my son told me that when you 
execute the Compose tweet button in the bottom right corner of the Twitter home 
screen, you will be placed in a text box containing the dimmed words what's 
happening. If you know the Twitter handle of who you wish to tweet, you can 
type it here followed by a space and the words you wish to tweet. So, in my 
case, I typed @KrogerSupport followed by my message explaining the 
inaccessibility issue with the Kroger app. I believe you a limited to 285 
characters per tweet and I did not find that info readily available since I was 
typing using the FlickType keyboard but I kept my tweet as short as possible 
and ended up with 2 characters to spare.

 

I hope the above might help someone attempting to tweet and thanks again for 
your reply.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

 

Hi Alan,

It is rather frustrating.

I don’t think you would want to try dictating that long of a message with Siri.

Do you by chance use MBraille?

You could write your message and at the bottom write .tweet then the address to 
whom you are sending it and swipe down for a hard return which will open 
twitter and have your message ready to send.

MBraille has a lot of what he calls dot commands, which is the command preceded 
by a period.

 

 

HTH,

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:02 AM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

 

Hi List,

 

I'll admit upfront that I don't find the native Twitter app very intuitive. I 
want to compose a new tweet to @KrogerSupport to report an issue with 
inaccessibility with their Kroger app. If you want to place an order for pickup 
or delivery with their app, apparently, there is a blue arrow in the center of 
the screen just above the bottomline menu that you must access in order to open 
the screen where you can specify whether you are picking up or requesting 
delivery of your order and also reserve your time if picking up. Unfortunately, 
this critical button is inaccessible and simply clicks followed by the words 
Action available possible text Brandon which is the name of my default Kroger 
store. However, if you double tap on this button when it has focus with 
Voiceover turned on, nothing happens. You must first turn off Voiceover and 
miraculously touch the button in order to proceed to the next screen where 
Voiceover can be turned back on and the order continued. I don't have to 
emphasize how critical during these times it is for the visually impaired 
community to be able to complete a grocery order.

 

This brings me to my question about reporting this issue to Kroger via Twitter 
since getting through to them on the phone is next to impossible. I have come 
up with their Twitter address which is @KrogerSupport. I simply want to launch 
the Twitter app and create a new tweet where I provide the address and the 
tweet text and then send it. Can someone give me the direct steps on how to do 
this? Is it not possible to generate a new tweet without going through some 
search routine and then selecting an address from some generated list? I'm not 
replying to any existing tweet threads and simply want to create a new one with 
the known recipient address. I find this extremely frustrating and unintuitive 
with the native Twitter app. I would very much appreciate some direction. And 
please don't start offering other more accessible apps like Twitterrific. I 
want to do this with the native Twitter app.

 

I'm running iOS 13.4 on an iPhone 8 using the latest Twitter app and thanks in 
advance for any help you can provide. Mark Taylor, I know you have posted 
frequently about using Twitter to contact company support so I'm hoping you'll 
have some words of wisdom.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: A Question About Blindfold Games and Ear Oppoly for iOS, Do the Bundles Include Unlimitted Play?

[Daniel MacDonald]

Hello there,

When my Mac was getting fist, I bought every single game on RS Games in the iOS 
app. There’s a bundle to get them all, but it doesn’t exactly work correctly. 
Some games you have to buy when it’s supposed to work with the bundle. I spent  
$70 before everything was done.  The app is just called rs games. It is by Kid 
Friendly Software, and to by the games in the app you have to be loved on to 
the rs games server. Once logged on, go back to the previous screen, and 
select, buy or upgrade game. All the bundles are there and just select the one 
to buy them all. Then go there again, and the individual games you buy at this 
point are left centre right, slot machines, and ruleset .
Regards,
Daniel


> On Mar 29, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Robin  wrote:
> 
> Is there an iOSApp for RSS Games  in the AppStore? If so,  Can SomeOne 
> (please) Help me Locate it? By providing me with its  Name & the 
> AppDeveloper's Name too
> 
> Thanks
> At 09:43 AM 3/29/2020, you wrote:
>> Hello Everyone,
>> 
>> Well, last night I downloaded the RS Games client for iOS and I also
>> downloaded Ear Oppoly, which was developed by Kid Friendly Software, which,
>> as it turns out, is owned by RS Games.
>> 
>> For those who may not know, Ear Oppoly is a fully VoiceOver accessible
>> Monopoly game.  I must admit that Ear Oppoly is quite addicting, to say the
>> least.
>> 
>> From within the RS Games client, in the in-app purchase area, one can
>> purchase bundles of game upgrades, including Monopoly.  Do these bundles
>> include the Kid Friendly apps such as Ear Oppoly? Or are they only referring
>> to the RS Games that can be played from within the client, online?
>> 
>> From within Ear Oppoly, itself, you see, there are other in-app purchases
>> including an unlimited play package, for $14.99 which I am more than happy
>> to purchase so long as I am clear that doing so will not be redundant or in
>> anyway will conflict with the Bundle purchase offered from within RS Games
>> which costs $37.99.
>> 
>> While I am delighted that we have these games available to us, I wish that
>> the offerings were more clearly distinguished.
>> 
>> By the way, does anyone have a phone number or email address I can use to
>> contact the developers?  I have sent an email to
>> supp...@kidfriendlysoftware.com, but have no idea if this is a current email
>> alternative.
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

[Richard Turner]

This is interesting.
I use Tom Enhanced, and it pronounces tornado just fine.
The Irish male Siri says Tornado like it was trying to say the first part of 
the word toward.
Very odd sounding.
But, the n is definitely there.



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On Mar 29, 2020, at 11:57 AM, Fred Olver  wrote:

It puts a t in where there should be a d. Also, it eliminates the n as in 
tornado

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Re: A Question About Blindfold Games and Ear Oppoly for iOS, Do the Bundles Include Unlimitted Play?

[Robin]

Is there an iOSApp for RSS Games  in the AppStore? If so,  Can 
SomeOne (please) Help me Locate it? By providing me with its  Name & 
the AppDeveloper's Name too


Thanks
At 09:43 AM 3/29/2020, you wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Well, last night I downloaded the RS Games client for iOS and I also
downloaded Ear Oppoly, which was developed by Kid Friendly Software, which,
as it turns out, is owned by RS Games.

For those who may not know, Ear Oppoly is a fully VoiceOver accessible
Monopoly game.  I must admit that Ear Oppoly is quite addicting, to say the
least.

From within the RS Games client, in the in-app purchase area, one can
purchase bundles of game upgrades, including Monopoly.  Do these bundles
include the Kid Friendly apps such as Ear Oppoly? Or are they only referring
to the RS Games that can be played from within the client, online?

From within Ear Oppoly, itself, you see, there are other in-app purchases
including an unlimited play package, for $14.99 which I am more than happy
to purchase so long as I am clear that doing so will not be redundant or in
anyway will conflict with the Bundle purchase offered from within RS Games
which costs $37.99.

While I am delighted that we have these games available to us, I wish that
the offerings were more clearly distinguished.

By the way, does anyone have a phone number or email address I can use to
contact the developers?  I have sent an email to
supp...@kidfriendlysoftware.com, but have no idea if this is a current email
alternative.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

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Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 upgrade?

[Fred Olver]

It puts a t in where there should be a d. Also, it eliminates the n as in 
tornado
  - Original Message - 
  From: Debby Hill 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:30 AM
  Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?


  Hi,

  I have an iPhhone 8 and my default voice is Samantha the regular not 
enhanced. It says "yestertay" instead of "yesterday." This morning for kicks I 
tried the Siri female voice and Susan Enhanced, and "yesterday" was still 
pronounced "yestertay." So I am concluding that it doesn't matter what voice 
you use, this must be some basic algorithm problem. Since it is annoying, I 
just might have to give in and change the ⠏⠗⠕⠝⠥⠝⠉⠊⠠⠝⠲ Oh well!

  Take care!

  Debby

  On Mar 28, 2020 12:13 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I have a theory, then I’ll tell you how to fix it if you still need to.

If the default voice under VoiceOver Speech is a Siri voice, try changing 
it to something else and see if that fixes it.

You may also want to change the Siri Language under Siri Settings to 
something other than American English.  Not sure if that matters, but that was 
a work around to get rid of the stupid transcriptions on voice mail.

If it still mispronounces yesterday, go to the VoiceOver Speech settings, 
pronunciation.

Add yesterday spelled correctly and in the substitution edit field, spell 
it with u r instead of e r so yesturday

I also make sure it is set to apply to all languages.









Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, 
Oregon.





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kevinwass...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?



I don’t know why Voice-over pronounces Yesterday. How do you fix it. Surly, 
Apple must be awar of this and will fix it.



From: 'cwc' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:12 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How does your Voiceover pronounce yesterday after the iOS 13.4 
upgrade?



I noticed it with the default Samantha bvoice also. I changed the spelling 
in pronounciation  and it solved the problem. 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:10:37 PM UTC-4, Alan Lemly wrote:

  Hi List,



  I know pronunciation issues are miniscule with everything going on now 
but I'm curious why Voiceover seems to have problems with the pronunciation of 
certain words after iOS upgrades. I upgraded to iOS 13.4 yesterday on my iPhone 
8 and I notice that the last syllable of the word yesterday is now pronounced 
as if it begins with the letter t instead of with the letter d. I'm getting 
this same mispronunciation with both Samantha enhanced and Tom enhanced and am 
curious if others are also experiencing it. I was reviewing a list of recent 
app upgrades in the App Store and they are tagged with the upgrade day and I 
got tired of hearing yesterday pronounced as yesterTay.



  Thanks for any confirmation of this mispronunciation issue.



  Alan Lemly

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RE: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

[Richard Turner]

Hi Alan,
It is rather frustrating.
I don’t think you would want to try dictating that long of a message with Siri.
Do you by chance use MBraille?
You could write your message and at the bottom write .tweet then the address to 
whom you are sending it and swipe down for a hard return which will open 
twitter and have your message ready to send.
MBraille has a lot of what he calls dot commands, which is the command preceded 
by a period.


HTH,
Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 9:02 AM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

Hi List,

I'll admit upfront that I don't find the native Twitter app very intuitive. I 
want to compose a new tweet to @KrogerSupport to report an issue with 
inaccessibility with their Kroger app. If you want to place an order for pickup 
or delivery with their app, apparently, there is a blue arrow in the center of 
the screen just above the bottomline menu that you must access in order to open 
the screen where you can specify whether you are picking up or requesting 
delivery of your order and also reserve your time if picking up. Unfortunately, 
this critical button is inaccessible and simply clicks followed by the words 
Action available possible text Brandon which is the name of my default Kroger 
store. However, if you double tap on this button when it has focus with 
Voiceover turned on, nothing happens. You must first turn off Voiceover and 
miraculously touch the button in order to proceed to the next screen where 
Voiceover can be turned back on and the order continued. I don't have to 
emphasize how critical during these times it is for the visually impaired 
community to be able to complete a grocery order.

This brings me to my question about reporting this issue to Kroger via Twitter 
since getting through to them on the phone is next to impossible. I have come 
up with their Twitter address which is @KrogerSupport. I simply want to launch 
the Twitter app and create a new tweet where I provide the address and the 
tweet text and then send it. Can someone give me the direct steps on how to do 
this? Is it not possible to generate a new tweet without going through some 
search routine and then selecting an address from some generated list? I'm not 
replying to any existing tweet threads and simply want to create a new one with 
the known recipient address. I find this extremely frustrating and unintuitive 
with the native Twitter app. I would very much appreciate some direction. And 
please don't start offering other more accessible apps like Twitterrific. I 
want to do this with the native Twitter app.

I'm running iOS 13.4 on an iPhone 8 using the latest Twitter app and thanks in 
advance for any help you can provide. Mark Taylor, I know you have posted 
frequently about using Twitter to contact company support so I'm hoping you'll 
have some words of wisdom.

Alan Lemly
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RE: Native email app and downloads question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Barbara,

You ask an excellent question.

This is just a guess but I suspect that when you activate the attachment, in 
order to first download it to your device, the file is being stored in a 
temporary location on your local device.  All things being equal, I would wager 
that this area is not directly accessible via the standard user interface.

When you open the attachment, you should have an option to save it to a 
specific location or in its default app location if no specific location is 
offered.  

I suspect that the temporary file will remain on your device until you either 
delete the attachment from the email or until you delete the specific email, 
itself, from your email client.

Again, this is just a guess, on my part.

Mark

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Barbara Stahl
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:48 AM
To: Viphone
Subject: Native email app and downloads question

Hi List! 
I have a question about downloads and the native email app. 
When someone sends me an email with an attachment, I have to click download 
first, then I can double tap the attachment and it will open. Does anyone know 
where the app is putting the downloaded file? Is it in my phone's storage 
somewhere, If so how do I access it? Or are they just downloading on the email 
server or something? OK thanks in advance

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A Question About Blindfold Games and Ear Oppoly for iOS, Do the Bundles Include Unlimitted Play?

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Well, last night I downloaded the RS Games client for iOS and I also
downloaded Ear Oppoly, which was developed by Kid Friendly Software, which,
as it turns out, is owned by RS Games.

For those who may not know, Ear Oppoly is a fully VoiceOver accessible
Monopoly game.  I must admit that Ear Oppoly is quite addicting, to say the
least.

>From within the RS Games client, in the in-app purchase area, one can
purchase bundles of game upgrades, including Monopoly.  Do these bundles
include the Kid Friendly apps such as Ear Oppoly? Or are they only referring
to the RS Games that can be played from within the client, online?

>From within Ear Oppoly, itself, you see, there are other in-app purchases
including an unlimited play package, for $14.99 which I am more than happy
to purchase so long as I am clear that doing so will not be redundant or in
anyway will conflict with the Bundle purchase offered from within RS Games
which costs $37.99.  

While I am delighted that we have these games available to us, I wish that
the offerings were more clearly distinguished.

By the way, does anyone have a phone number or email address I can use to
contact the developers?  I have sent an email to
supp...@kidfriendlysoftware.com, but have no idea if this is a current email
alternative.

All replies greatly appreciated.

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Help needed composing a new tweet to @KrogerSupport

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I'll admit upfront that I don't find the native Twitter app very intuitive.
I want to compose a new tweet to @KrogerSupport to report an issue with
inaccessibility with their Kroger app. If you want to place an order for
pickup or delivery with their app, apparently, there is a blue arrow in the
center of the screen just above the bottomline menu that you must access in
order to open the screen where you can specify whether you are picking up or
requesting delivery of your order and also reserve your time if picking up.
Unfortunately, this critical button is inaccessible and simply clicks
followed by the words Action available possible text Brandon which is the
name of my default Kroger store. However, if you double tap on this button
when it has focus with Voiceover turned on, nothing happens. You must first
turn off Voiceover and miraculously touch the button in order to proceed to
the next screen where Voiceover can be turned back on and the order
continued. I don't have to emphasize how critical during these times it is
for the visually impaired community to be able to complete a grocery order.

 

This brings me to my question about reporting this issue to Kroger via
Twitter since getting through to them on the phone is next to impossible. I
have come up with their Twitter address which is @KrogerSupport. I simply
want to launch the Twitter app and create a new tweet where I provide the
address and the tweet text and then send it. Can someone give me the direct
steps on how to do this? Is it not possible to generate a new tweet without
going through some search routine and then selecting an address from some
generated list? I'm not replying to any existing tweet threads and simply
want to create a new one with the known recipient address. I find this
extremely frustrating and unintuitive with the native Twitter app. I would
very much appreciate some direction. And please don't start offering other
more accessible apps like Twitterrific. I want to do this with the native
Twitter app.

 

I'm running iOS 13.4 on an iPhone 8 using the latest Twitter app and thanks
in advance for any help you can provide. Mark Taylor, I know you have posted
frequently about using Twitter to contact company support so I'm hoping
you'll have some words of wisdom.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Making calls and SMS question.

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like you both need to report this behavior to Apple maybe both 
through www.apple.com/feedback
And accessibil...@apple.com

I am not on my phone a ton, so maybe that is why I have not experienced this.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Making calls and SMS question.

I have the same issue on my 11Pro and it makes no difference  if using 
headphones.

Marie

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Making calls and SMS question.

On the second point about SMS, you may want to connect to 
accessibil...@apple.com because that sounds 
like a minor bug to me.

As for the phone call issue, are you using headphones?
I’ve not experienced that on my SE running 13.4.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Malcolm Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Making calls and SMS question.

Hello,

I hope I find you all well in these anxious times.

I have noticed a couple of things with my iPhone XR running IOS 13.4.

Firstly, when the phone has been in use for some time when I make a call it is 
some time before I hear anything my end.  Sometimes the other person as 
answered and while they can hear me I cannot hear them.  Restarting the device 
solves the issue.

I have tried resetting Network Settings but the issue persists.

The second issue is not a problem but interesting.  No matter who I send an SMS 
to my phone always says sending via iMessage even though the recipient is not 
an iPhone user.

Any thoughts welcome.

Stay safe!

Malcolm
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Re: Making calls and SMS question.

[Marie]

I have the same issue on my 11Pro and it makes no difference  if using 
headphones.

Marie

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 7:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Making calls and SMS question.

On the second point about SMS, you may want to connect to 
accessibil...@apple.com because that sounds like a minor bug to me.

 

As for the phone call issue, are you using headphones?

I’ve not experienced that on my SE running 13.4.

 

 

 

 

Richard

"There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Making calls and SMS question.

 

Hello,

 

I hope I find you all well in these anxious times.

 

I have noticed a couple of things with my iPhone XR running IOS 13.4.

 

Firstly, when the phone has been in use for some time when I make a call it is 
some time before I hear anything my end.  Sometimes the other person as 
answered and while they can hear me I cannot hear them.  Restarting the device 
solves the issue.

 

I have tried resetting Network Settings but the issue persists.

 

The second issue is not a problem but interesting.  No matter who I send an SMS 
to my phone always says sending via iMessage even though the recipient is not 
an iPhone user.

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

Stay safe!

 

Malcolm

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RE: Making calls and SMS question.

[Richard Turner]

On the second point about SMS, you may want to connect to 
accessibil...@apple.com because that sounds 
like a minor bug to me.

As for the phone call issue, are you using headphones?
I’ve not experienced that on my SE running 13.4.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Making calls and SMS question.

Hello,

I hope I find you all well in these anxious times.

I have noticed a couple of things with my iPhone XR running IOS 13.4.

Firstly, when the phone has been in use for some time when I make a call it is 
some time before I hear anything my end.  Sometimes the other person as 
answered and while they can hear me I cannot hear them.  Restarting the device 
solves the issue.

I have tried resetting Network Settings but the issue persists.

The second issue is not a problem but interesting.  No matter who I send an SMS 
to my phone always says sending via iMessage even though the recipient is not 
an iPhone user.

Any thoughts welcome.

Stay safe!

Malcolm
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Re: Native email app and downloads question

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

Hi Barbara,

You might check inside the File Manager once, because once you download the
file it gets stored on your phone.

Hope this helps

Pramit


On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:17 PM Barbara Stahl 
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> Hi List!
> I have a question about downloads and the native email app.
> When someone sends me an email with an attachment, I have to click
> download first, then I can double tap the attachment and it will open. Does
> anyone know where the app is putting the downloaded file? Is it in my
> phone's storage somewhere, If so how do I access it? Or are they just
> downloading on the email server or something? OK thanks in advance
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Using Magic Mouse with voiceover on new iPad Pro

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Using mouse with VoiceOver on the new iPad Pro is brilliant! It has a few 
problems: when in a list of tweets in Twitterrific, I love the way the 
voiceover can be set to follow the mouse pointer and read out the tweet under 
the mouse pointer. The downside is that when I want to move the mouse pointer 
to the bottom of the screen in order to access the doc, the process of moving 
the pointer downwards towards the dock also takes me right back to the earlier 
tweets and next time I open the app, it will open at that much earlier point. 
Is there a solution?
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Making calls and SMS question.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

 

I hope I find you all well in these anxious times.

 

I have noticed a couple of things with my iPhone XR running IOS 13.4.

 

Firstly, when the phone has been in use for some time when I make a call it
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The second issue is not a problem but interesting.  No matter who I send an
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is not an iPhone user.

 

Any thoughts welcome.

 

Stay safe!

 

Malcolm

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