RE: iPhone continuously crashing after update. Please help!

[Simon A Fogarty]

Try and I know this sounds stupid,
 Shut down and restart your phone 

 See how that goes.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 2:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone continuously crashing after update. Please help!

hey everyone, I was hoping someone here could offer suggestions on what I can 
do before I throw my phone across the room. When I was told that I received a 
software update I chose yesterday that I would have it installed between the 
hours of 1 AM and 5 AM. Usually, every time it wants to install it I’m in the 
middle of doing something so I have to keep putting it off.
Well I assume it installed overnight however, ever since I got up this morning, 
it crashes constantly! And I don’t mean when I have a specific app or anything. 
Sometimes, my phone is locked and it crashes and I know it does because it’s a 
screen curtain on and I have to type in my password to unlock. I’m not 
exaggerating when I say it’s been doing it 40 or 50 times today alone. We’ll 
see how long I can even dictate this message before it crashes on me. End it 
already crashed once during this message. I’m at a loss as to what to do. I 
looked online and saw a suggestion where are you can do I guess it’s called 
like a soft reset. They said if you have the iPhone 8+, which I do, you tap the 
app volume button then the down volume button then you hold in the power button 
until you see the apple symbol. Well, can’t see the apple symbol but I know 
that I did restart it but it did not fix it. Does anyone know how I can undo 
the update that I installed last night? I’m thinking maybe it was corrupted 
somehow. If not that does anyone have any suggestions of what else I can try? I 
will do a complete reset if I have to but I’m definitely trying to avoid that 
if I can. it is totally possible that it is not related to the update only 
because my phone has dropped a few times and he’s a little quirky in other 
instances but I suspect it has something to do with the update since it worked 
fine until this morning.
Anyone have any suggestions on what I could do I greatly appreciate it and you 
would save my sanity.


Kellie and loki  
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Face ID and face coverings.

[Simon A Fogarty]

The other thing is that you only need to pull the face mask down under your 
chin for a few seconds for the face id be able to pick up the face to unlock 
your phoen.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Bierman
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Face ID and face coverings.

Some folks have some luck with retraining the FaceID wearing mask. But for the 
most part, the last update simply "fails faster" ... that is, prompts for the 
passcode faster.which IS helpful; but yes it's the same number and kind of 
steps we've had since this mess started.


On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:24 PM Malcolm Parfitt 
mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
I read somewhere that the latest IOS is supposed to work with face coverings.

I am using an iPhone XR and next month I will have to go into hospital to have 
a defective left kidney removed.

Here in the UK you have to wear face coverings in hospitals.  Assuming this is 
still the case when I am admitted, has anyone any experience as to how Face ID 
works in this situation or am I going to be completely reliant on my passcode?

Thanks.
Malcolm Parfitt

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RE: Microsoft Teams

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it’s great,

I use it for work on a daily basis,

Infact it works better on my iphone than on my windows computer with jaws.

What troubles are you having with it
And remember that there are rota functions you can use for teams
They do make life beeter when using he product.

From: 'ChalmersAS' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, 20 June 2020 12:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Microsoft Teams

Hi all

Has anyone got any advice for using Microsoft Teams with VO? I only know one 
other VO user who has experience of this and they couldn’t get it to work at 
all.

I just downloaded the app and it’s directing me to use Skype instead.

I wouldn’t bother with it, but, ironically, it’s for a meeting of the Digital 
Participation Group at the Scottish Parliament.

Regards

Adrienne
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Re: iPhone continuously crashing after update. Please help!

[Richard Turner]

Have you closed all the apps out of the app switcher?
Do you have another phone on which to call Apple Accessibility?




Richard
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On Jun 19, 2020, at 7:58 PM, Kellie  wrote:

hey everyone, I was hoping someone here could offer suggestions on what I can 
do before I throw my phone across the room. When I was told that I received a 
software update I chose yesterday that I would have it installed between the 
hours of 1 AM and 5 AM. Usually, every time it wants to install it I’m in the 
middle of doing something so I have to keep putting it off.
Well I assume it installed overnight however, ever since I got up this morning, 
it crashes constantly! And I don’t mean when I have a specific app or anything. 
Sometimes, my phone is locked and it crashes and I know it does because it’s a 
screen curtain on and I have to type in my password to unlock. I’m not 
exaggerating when I say it’s been doing it 40 or 50 times today alone. We’ll 
see how long I can even dictate this message before it crashes on me. End it 
already crashed once during this message. I’m at a loss as to what to do. I 
looked online and saw a suggestion where are you can do I guess it’s called 
like a soft reset. They said if you have the iPhone 8+, which I do, you tap the 
app volume button then the down volume button then you hold in the power button 
until you see the apple symbol. Well, can’t see the apple symbol but I know 
that I did restart it but it did not fix it. Does anyone know how I can undo 
the update that I installed last night? I’m thinking maybe it was corrupted 
somehow. If not that does anyone have any suggestions of what else I can try? I 
will do a complete reset if I have to but I’m definitely trying to avoid that 
if I can. it is totally possible that it is not related to the update only 
because my phone has dropped a few times and he’s a little quirky in other 
instances but I suspect it has something to do with the update since it worked 
fine until this morning.
Anyone have any suggestions on what I could do I greatly appreciate it and you 
would save my sanity.


Kellie and loki
Sent from my iPhone

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iPhone continuously crashing after update. Please help!

[Kellie]

hey everyone, I was hoping someone here could offer suggestions on what I can 
do before I throw my phone across the room. When I was told that I received a 
software update I chose yesterday that I would have it installed between the 
hours of 1 AM and 5 AM. Usually, every time it wants to install it I’m in the 
middle of doing something so I have to keep putting it off.
Well I assume it installed overnight however, ever since I got up this morning, 
it crashes constantly! And I don’t mean when I have a specific app or anything. 
Sometimes, my phone is locked and it crashes and I know it does because it’s a 
screen curtain on and I have to type in my password to unlock. I’m not 
exaggerating when I say it’s been doing it 40 or 50 times today alone. We’ll 
see how long I can even dictate this message before it crashes on me. End it 
already crashed once during this message. I’m at a loss as to what to do. I 
looked online and saw a suggestion where are you can do I guess it’s called 
like a soft reset. They said if you have the iPhone 8+, which I do, you tap the 
app volume button then the down volume button then you hold in the power button 
until you see the apple symbol. Well, can’t see the apple symbol but I know 
that I did restart it but it did not fix it. Does anyone know how I can undo 
the update that I installed last night? I’m thinking maybe it was corrupted 
somehow. If not that does anyone have any suggestions of what else I can try? I 
will do a complete reset if I have to but I’m definitely trying to avoid that 
if I can. it is totally possible that it is not related to the update only 
because my phone has dropped a few times and he’s a little quirky in other 
instances but I suspect it has something to do with the update since it worked 
fine until this morning.
Anyone have any suggestions on what I could do I greatly appreciate it and you 
would save my sanity.


Kellie and loki  
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Question on making the radio play.

[Richard Turner]

Do you have any apps like TuneIn installed?
Or, under his cellular settings, is Music set to use cell data?




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On Jun 19, 2020, at 5:55 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:


Hi All,
I have a friend that has a 10 r iPhone. He has just a data and talk plan and 
has no wifi at his home. I can say hey Siri play WNAX and it will play that 
radio station. When he tried to do that on his iPhone a message comes up to 
turn on data or wifi in settings. We have gone into his IPhone and data is turn 
on and wifi is turned off. So why does this message keep coming up and why does 
his iPhone not play any radio station when he asked Siri to play it. Like I 
said every time he asked Siri to play a radio station it brings up this message 
of turn on data or wifi. I know data is on because we check and he also can 
receive text message and phone calls with no issues. Any ideas?
Mr. Ed

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RE: Mark is on the Move

[Mervin Keck]

Good Evening:
We are relocating after twelve years from Florida back to Pennsylvania and we 
also used both the iPhone and the PC version of that resource. We found it to 
be accessible and a very valuable resource which met our very urgent needs.
Merv

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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 9:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark is on the Move

Hello Everyone,

Because this is a public forum, I will not speak as to the specifics but I 
wanted you all to know that I recently moved to a new residence and that I used 
Zillow for iOS, exclusively, to accomplish this endeavor.

Actually, I tried several other home finding apps and websites but always found 
myself returning to Zillow, primarily, because of its VoiceOver accessability, 
its integration with Apple Maps, and the fact that I could take notes on the 
various properties, from within the app, itself.

So, if, like me, you find yourself on the move, give Zillow for iOS a try.

Mark


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Re: Mark is on the Move

[Esubalew Johnston]

Hello, I recently bought a house a year and a half ago according to the 
realtors though they said redfin is more up-to-date versus yellow Zalo is like 
couple months behind far as updated information on houses. Just that you know 
redfin is pretty accessible it has more details I think but I never worked with 
Zillow before. Hope all is well

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 7:21 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> Because this is a public forum, I will not speak as to the specifics but I
> wanted you all to know that I recently moved to a new residence and that I
> used Zillow for iOS, exclusively, to accomplish this endeavor.
> 
> Actually, I tried several other home finding apps and websites but always
> found myself returning to Zillow, primarily, because of its VoiceOver
> accessability, its integration with Apple Maps, and the fact that I could
> take notes on the various properties, from within the app, itself.
> 
> So, if, like me, you find yourself on the move, give Zillow for iOS a try.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Question About Gifting from the iStores

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
I know that you can use touch ID to purchase music to be stored on yur
device(s), but is it not available for when you purchase something to
be gifted? I didn't see it as an option, so was wondering if I'm
missing something.

Thanks,
Dani

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Braille Input Mostly Broken in iTunes Store App

[dani pagador]

Hi, Everyone.
Using an iPhone 8 with 13.5.1.

I just got done having a frustrating experience trying to purchase a
gift through the iTunes store. There's a Gift button as the last
choice in the Share option when you find the thing you want to
preview. I can use either a Braille display or BSI to input the
recipient into the To field, but everything goes downhill from there.
When I try to input Braille either with the display or BSI in the From
and Message fields, it doesn't let me. I can input the capital sign,
but can't input any letters or numbers. I'm horrible at the onscreen
print keyboard, so it added to the frustration.
Where do I go to report this problem? Is anyone else experiencing it?

Thanks,
Dani

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Mark is on the Move

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

Because this is a public forum, I will not speak as to the specifics but I
wanted you all to know that I recently moved to a new residence and that I
used Zillow for iOS, exclusively, to accomplish this endeavor.

Actually, I tried several other home finding apps and websites but always
found myself returning to Zillow, primarily, because of its VoiceOver
accessability, its integration with Apple Maps, and the fact that I could
take notes on the various properties, from within the app, itself.

So, if, like me, you find yourself on the move, give Zillow for iOS a try.

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Question on making the radio play.

[Mr. Ed]

Hi All,

I have a friend that has a 10 r iPhone. He has just a data and talk plan and
has no wifi at his home. I can say hey Siri play WNAX and it will play that
radio station. When he tried to do that on his iPhone a message comes up to
turn on data or wifi in settings. We have gone into his IPhone and data is
turn on and wifi is turned off. So why does this message keep coming up and
why does his iPhone not play any radio station when he asked Siri to play
it. Like I said every time he asked Siri to play a radio station it brings
up this message of turn on data or wifi. I know data is on because we check
and he also can receive text message and phone calls with no issues. Any
ideas?

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Re: Face ID and face coverings.

[Keith Bierman]

Some folks have some luck with retraining the FaceID wearing mask. But for
the most part, the last update simply "fails faster" ... that is, prompts
for the passcode faster.which IS helpful; but yes it's the same number
and kind of steps we've had since this mess started.


On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:24 PM Malcolm Parfitt 
wrote:

> I read somewhere that the latest IOS is supposed to work with face
> coverings.
>
> I am using an iPhone XR and next month I will have to go into hospital to
> have a defective left kidney removed.
>
> Here in the UK you have to wear face coverings in hospitals.  Assuming
> this is still the case when I am admitted, has anyone any experience as to
> how Face ID works in this situation or am I going to be completely reliant
> on my passcode?
>
> Thanks.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Face ID and face coverings.

[Julian]

Hi Malcolm,

Unfortunately, you're going to have to rely on entering your passcode to unlock 
your phone when wearing a face mask. I'm not sure what they think they made 
easier with this latest update. I still have to go through the same amount of 
steps when unlocking my phone and wearing a face mask.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 19, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> I read somewhere that the latest IOS is supposed to work with face coverings.
> 
> I am using an iPhone XR and next month I will have to go into hospital to 
> have a defective left kidney removed.
> 
> Here in the UK you have to wear face coverings in hospitals.  Assuming this 
> is still the case when I am admitted, has anyone any experience as to how 
> Face ID works in this situation or am I going to be completely reliant on my 
> passcode?
> 
> Thanks.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Face ID and face coverings.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I read somewhere that the latest IOS is supposed to work with face coverings.

I am using an iPhone XR and next month I will have to go into hospital to have 
a defective left kidney removed.

Here in the UK you have to wear face coverings in hospitals.  Assuming this is 
still the case when I am admitted, has anyone any experience as to how Face ID 
works in this situation or am I going to be completely reliant on my passcode?

Thanks.
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Re: passcode question

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

Just in case anyone ever needs to use the regular Apple support, He called 
yesterday, and after 20 tries to set up his ID and over 90 minutes on the 
phone, Apple support fixed the problem. They were very patient. He ended up 
having to set up his ID on the computer and then adding it to the phone. They 
never did figure out why he had the problem, but they fixed the issue.

Vicki

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  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:20 PM
  Subject: Re: passcode question


  Safari does not need a passcode, though if your phone has a passcode, you 
cannot launch any app other than camera without unlocking your phone. 
  Vicki,
  Your friend needs to call Apple to get a clear answer.







  Richard
  "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I have never had a passcode and use Safari just fine.


- Original Message - From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: passcode question


But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode?

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Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
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First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will 
primarily ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and 
come back later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it 
with the face ID.






Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:




Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode 
needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type 
it in so often>

Vicki




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Microsoft Teams

['ChalmersAS' via VIPhone]

Hi all

Has anyone got any advice for using Microsoft Teams with VO? I only know one 
other VO user who has experience of this and they couldn’t get it to work at 
all.

I just downloaded the app and it’s directing me to use Skype instead. 

I wouldn’t bother with it, but, ironically, it’s for a meeting of the Digital 
Participation Group at the Scottish Parliament.

Regards

Adrienne

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Re: Choosing a phone company

[juan mojena]

Well, it was kind of a Christmas present. It was for my wife and if I’m getting 
myself the top-of-the-line iPhone then if I’m trying to get her off the flip 
phone I’m gonna try to get the best phone that I could afford.

Juan


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 7:57 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah but you don't need the latest and greatest Samsung phone.

The Samsung galaxy A range is a lower cost set of devices and they are still 
bloody good devices.

I purchased an A20 last year to get android knowledge and it was great except 
of course for the bloat ware. But it still had an HD screen with usb-C charging 



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

I doubt very much and you can buy the latest and greatest Samsung or pixel 
phone for $600 including tax. I know this because at the time my wife and I 
went to Best Buy to look at the latest phones that they were selling and they 
were $900 and up. Well that’s last year‘s phone might have been $800 but this 
phone was $600. You know that folding phone from Samsung is about $2000?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:52 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:

For that price,

You should have purchased a Samsung and saved yourself a lot of troubles.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of juan 
mojena
Sent: Thursday, 18 June 2020 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

my wife doesn’t like Apple so I got her an android phoneThe 6t is the model of 
a  phone made by a company called one plus It is reputed to be a very good 
company and it Is supposed to  manufacture  very good  phones.however, their 
tech-support leaves a lot to be desired and their warranty company is much 
worse than that.The phone was wasn’t cheap it ended up costing more than $600 
with tax included.I wanted to get away fromAT didn’t want to buy another 
phone from them.I I really apologize for mistakes in wording because I’m using 
Siri and it is really miss behaving at this point.It seems to repeat the phrase 
is that you it seems to repeat the phrase is that you dictate. So I’m sorry for 
that. Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:27 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:

What is a 1 6 T? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
juan mojena
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company

Hi Dennis, I don’t know if our phones I mean the phones in our family an iPhone 
8 plus, and iPhone X and my wife’s 1+6t can use the Verizon towers. I would 
have to call and ask them. Plus, they are a little bit more expensive the 
consumer cellular and my wife needs to be able to call A local number to use a 
calling card to call Colombia. Sometimes phone companies don’t allow you to use 
such numbers.
Juan


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On Jun 17, 2020, at 3:34 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:




Visible is an awesome company.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jeff 
Samco
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 1:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Choosing a phone company



I have not used Consumer  Cellular. But I have been very pleased with service 
through Visible.com. I believe they are a wholly-owned company by Verizon and 
use the Verizon cell network and sell under-used band width. There are two cons 
to consider and many pros.

The cons:
First, support is only available through 24 hour chat on their website or 
through a smart phone app. No email, no phone number.
Second, if service gets congested in your area then your data will be slowed in 
preference to direct Verizon customers. I have noticed this, especially during 
these stay at home months, when in a rural area I frequent. But, service in 
town is very good.

The pros:
* Their plan provides unlimited calls, unlimited texts and unlimited data, 
along with hot spot service with no caps, all for one monthly price of $40 or 
as low as $25. I particularly needed hot spot capability so this feature was a 
big draw; I have not been disappointed.
* That $40 monthly cost will be less if you join a Party Pay group. A Party Pay 
group can have 2 members for a $5 discount per person each month; 3 members for 
$10 discount monthly and 4 members for $15 discount monthly, or only $25. No 
additional fees. There is no catch to joining a Party Pay group. No one shares 
a bill or any other connection except for getting the group discount. I easily 
found an open Party Pay group on Reddit and joined within a few minutes.
* After two months of paying for service they send a virtual MasterCard worth 
$100.

If you can handle the two minor drawbacks then I think It is a good service 
option.
HTH,
Jeff

At 12:06 PM 6/15/2020, you wrote:



 I’m trying to choose a cheaper phone company than