RE: Need a couple of gestures for iPhone 12 Pro for a friend

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And you touch near the top and swipe down to the first tone/vibration for 
control centre and the second for notification centre.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 8:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need a couple of gestures for iPhone 12 Pro for a friend

'Alan, you are close.from the bottom, the first vibration is home, the second 
is app switcher.Note, there is a sound before the first vibration that I think 
is there so you know you are doing the gesture correctly as it is different 
than the standard sound when sliding your finger on the screen where there is 
no Icon You can also tell Siri, go to the home screenHTH,.
Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
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space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Hi List,

I know I've seen these gestures posted several times but since I still have a 
home button on my SE 2020, I've not paid careful attention. I have a friend who 
just got an iPhone 12 Pro who needs to know the gestures for the following:


  1.  Get to the home screen.
  2.  Get to the App switcher. I'm going to state that I believe this is a 
single finger swipe up and hold starting at the bottom of the screen and 
releasing when the first sound is heard. Can someone confirm that this takes 
you to the App switcher? I believe continuing that single finger drag till the 
second sound is heard takes you to the Control center but I could have the two 
reversed.

Thanks in advance for your help. Also, if anyone can direct me to a good site 
to the iPhone gestures for the non-home button phones, I'd very much appreciate 
it.

Alan Lemly
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RE: new issue in Facebook app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have also noticed this on a local community group.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 9:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: new issue in Facebook app

I’m running into something new that I cannot figure out on the Facebook app.  
In a couple of my groups, I’m heaing VoiceOver say, for example” Jane Doe asked 
a question in Guide Dog Users”.  After some standard date info, Voicover will 
say Tap Community Q and A post”. I can head a comment about this, but I cannot 
figure out how to read what the question was and the answers provided.  Double 
tapping on the post does not open the post like it does with other posts in the 
same group.  Has anyone figured this out?

SE 2020 running IOS 14.2 and latest version of Facebook.

Robin


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RE: Need a couple of gestures for iPhone 12 Pro for a friend

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks, Richard. I guess sliding from the top down must take you to the control 
center. Or maybe it's the same as with home button phones in that you place 
focus on the status bar and do a three finger swipe up. The only absolute is 
that I'm not going to be able to remember any of this until I get a no home 
button phone.

 

Alan

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need a couple of gestures for iPhone 12 Pro for a friend

 

'Alan, you are close.from the bottom, the first vibration is home, the second 
is app switcher.Note, there is a sound before the first vibration that I think 
is there so you know you are doing the gesture correctly as it is different 
than the standard sound when sliding your finger on the screen where there is 
no Icon You can also tell Siri, go to the home screenHTH,.

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

 

Hi List,

 

I know I've seen these gestures posted several times but since I still have a 
home button on my SE 2020, I've not paid careful attention. I have a friend who 
just got an iPhone 12 Pro who needs to know the gestures for the following:

 

1.   Get to the home screen.

2.   Get to the App switcher. I'm going to state that I believe this is a 
single finger swipe up and hold starting at the bottom of the screen and 
releasing when the first sound is heard. Can someone confirm that this takes 
you to the App switcher? I believe continuing that single finger drag till the 
second sound is heard takes you to the Control center but I could have the two 
reversed.

 

Thanks in advance for your help. Also, if anyone can direct me to a good site 
to the iPhone gestures for the non-home button phones, I'd very much appreciate 
it.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Hulu again

[Christopher Chaltain]

The fact that some people are seeing this and others aren't doesn't make it any 
more likely that it's the operating system rather than the app itself. The fact 
that it's hit and miss like this is even more reason to get as much information 
into the hands of Apple and Hulu. Assuming they're serious about getting to the 
route cause, they have a lot more resources to look for commonalities between 
the people that are seeing this issue then the people on this list do. That's 
not to say people shouldn't keep looking for what these people have in common, 
but they shouldn't be doing this without also reporting this to Hulu and Apple.

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Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hulu again
> 
> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
> am a
> part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
> something
> to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question remains, 
> why
> is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not including the 
> beta. I’m
> talking about people running most recent release of the operating system and
> the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which makes zero sense.
> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
> am a
> part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
> something
> to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question remains, 
> why
> is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not including the 
> beta. I’m
> talking about people running most recent release of the operating system and
> the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which makes zero sense.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the
> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report these
> issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates to the
> app.
> >
> > --
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> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Hulu again
> >>
> >> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu
> >> will work normally.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Matthew Bullis
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Hulu again
> >>
> >> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while,
> >> but if I flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and
> >> over. If I drag my finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's 
> >> not
> helpful.
> >> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it
> didn't.
> >> I have the latest phone and operating system.
> >> Matthew
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Chris,
> >> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and
> >> that is the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best
> >> I can get when going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention
> >> of the season number and the episode number, and perhaps the episode
> >> title, but not the title of the show itself. So it’s not helpful.
> >> Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that mattered, but it
> might.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Mary,
> >>>
> >>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all
> >>> of the show titles.
> >>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro,
> >>> and I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
> >>>
> >>> This is what seems to happen.
> >>>
> >>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this
> >>> is why I say this.
> >>>
> >>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
> >>> options button.
> >>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land
> >>> on the next line, which is on the go to details button.
> >>> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view
> >>> options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you
> >>> go to a new line.
> >>>
> >>> Chris
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
>  I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show
>  titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a
>  WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works
>  fine for them. 

new issue in Facebook app

[R Van Lant]

I'm running into something new that I cannot figure out on the Facebook app.  
In a couple of my groups, I'm heaing VoiceOver say, for example" Jane Doe asked 
a question in Guide Dog Users".  After some standard date info, Voicover will 
say Tap Community Q and A post". I can head a comment about this, but I cannot 
figure out how to read what the question was and the answers provided.  Double 
tapping on the post does not open the post like it does with other posts in the 
same group.  Has anyone figured this out?

SE 2020 running IOS 14.2 and latest version of Facebook.

Robin


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Re: Hulu again

[SoonerAnnie]

Hi Chris and Mary, 

No problems whatsoever on my 10R. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I wonder if it uses the screen recognition feature in ios 14.2?
> 
> Did you come across anyone with a 10R where it worked just fine with?
> 
> I would like to know what phones have a problem, and what ones work just fine.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same 
>> unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the 
>> WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear 
>> that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me.
>>> What phone are you using?
>>> 
>>> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that 
 I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that 
 sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But 
 the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? 
 This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most 
 recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some 
 and not for others which makes zero sense.
 That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that 
 I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that 
 sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But 
 the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? 
 This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most 
 recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some 
 and not for others which makes zero sense.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
> 
> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with 
> the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will 
> report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the 
> future updates to the app.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu 
>> will work
>> normally.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but 
>> if I flick
>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag 
>> my finger
>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but 
>> it didn't.
>> I have the latest phone and operating system.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that 
>> is the Siri
>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
>> through
>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
>> episode
>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
>> itself. So it’s
>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
>> mattered,
>> but it might.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
>>> the show titles.
>>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
>>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
>>> 
>>> This is what seems to happen.
>>> 
>>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
>>> why I say this.
>>> 
>>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
>>> options button.
>>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
>>> the next 

Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Mike B]

Hi Holly,

In playing around making phone calls this afternoon to numbers that I knew 
wouldn't answer, I think that if I just make sure to unlock the screen 
before making a call everything will be fine.  Just an adjustment whether 
it's phone change issue or an iOS update issue doesn't matter, it's still an 
adjustment that needed to be made.

Yes, I found out the hard way about that key above the delete key on my 
Logitech K-380!  LOL  LOL

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Holly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


Mike:

I use blue tooth hearing aids with my SE 2020, and don’t experience the 
problem you are having.

Although, when I am using my wireless apple magic keyboard, there is a key 
above the delete key that hides the keypad from view.  Of course, this would 
not be applicable in your case either.

Good luck!

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Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Holly]

Mike:

I use blue tooth hearing aids with my SE 2020, and don’t experience the problem 
you are having.

Although, when I am using my wireless apple magic keyboard, there is a key 
above the delete key that hides the keypad from view.  Of course, this would 
not be applicable in your case either.

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Re: Need a couple of gestures for iPhone 12 Pro for a friend

[Richard Turner]

'Alan, you are close.from the bottom, the first vibration is home, the second 
is app switcher.Note, there is a sound before the first vibration that I think 
is there so you know you are doing the gesture correctly as it is different 
than the standard sound when sliding your finger on the screen where there is 
no Icon You can also tell Siri, go to the home screenHTH,.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:


Hi List,

I know I've seen these gestures posted several times but since I still have a 
home button on my SE 2020, I've not paid careful attention. I have a friend who 
just got an iPhone 12 Pro who needs to know the gestures for the following:


1.   Get to the home screen.

2.   Get to the App switcher. I'm going to state that I believe this is a 
single finger swipe up and hold starting at the bottom of the screen and 
releasing when the first sound is heard. Can someone confirm that this takes 
you to the App switcher? I believe continuing that single finger drag till the 
second sound is heard takes you to the Control center but I could have the two 
reversed.

Thanks in advance for your help. Also, if anyone can direct me to a good site 
to the iPhone gestures for the non-home button phones, I'd very much appreciate 
it.

Alan Lemly

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Need a couple of gestures for iPhone 12 Pro for a friend

[Alan Lemly]

Hi List,

 

I know I've seen these gestures posted several times but since I still have
a home button on my SE 2020, I've not paid careful attention. I have a
friend who just got an iPhone 12 Pro who needs to know the gestures for the
following:

 

1.   Get to the home screen.

2.   Get to the App switcher. I'm going to state that I believe this is a
single finger swipe up and hold starting at the bottom of the screen and
releasing when the first sound is heard. Can someone confirm that this takes
you to the App switcher? I believe continuing that single finger drag till
the second sound is heard takes you to the Control center but I could have
the two reversed.

 

Thanks in advance for your help. Also, if anyone can direct me to a good
site to the iPhone gestures for the non-home button phones, I'd very much
appreciate it.

 

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Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Mike B]

Hi Holly,

No problem but, when I do have a need to call without a bluetooth device I 
will keep this in mind.  It's a good tip to keep as a reminder.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Subject: Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


Sorry Mike.  I did remember that after I sent the email.

Hope you get it figured out.

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Re: Hulu again

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
I have an iPhone 7 Plus running the beta of 14.3, and an iPhone XR with 14.2 
public release. It works the same or I should say it doesn’t work on both 
phones. The new feature for text recognition doesn’t make any difference at 
least not here. And the people in the WhatsApp group who say it works great for 
them or not using that. So I don’t think that matters. It’s frustrating as all 
get out.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I wonder if it uses the screen recognition feature in ios 14.2?
> 
> Did you come across anyone with a 10R where it worked just fine with?
> 
> I would like to know what phones have a problem, and what ones work just fine.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same 
>> unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the 
>> WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear 
>> that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me.
>>> What phone are you using?
>>> 
>>> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that 
 I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that 
 sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But 
 the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? 
 This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most 
 recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some 
 and not for others which makes zero sense.
 That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that 
 I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that 
 sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But 
 the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? 
 This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most 
 recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some 
 and not for others which makes zero sense.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
> 
> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with 
> the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will 
> report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the 
> future updates to the app.
> 
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> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu 
>> will work
>> normally.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but 
>> if I flick
>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag 
>> my finger
>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but 
>> it didn't.
>> I have the latest phone and operating system.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that 
>> is the Siri
>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
>> through
>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
>> episode
>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
>> itself. So it’s
>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
>> mattered,
>> but it might.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
>>> the show titles.
>>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
>>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
>>> 

Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Holly]

Sorry Mike.  I did remember that after I sent the email.  

Hope you get it figured out.

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Re: Hulu again

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Mary,

I wonder if it uses the screen recognition feature in ios 14.2?

Did you come across anyone with a 10R where it worked just fine with?

I would like to know what phones have a problem, and what ones work just fine.

Chris


> On Dec 2, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same 
> unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the 
> WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear 
> that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me.
>> What phone are you using?
>> 
>> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that 
>>> I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that 
>>> sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the 
>>> question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This 
>>> is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent 
>>> release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not 
>>> for others which makes zero sense.
>>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
>>> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
>>> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the 
>>> question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This 
>>> is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent 
>>> release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not 
>>> for others which makes zero sense.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
 
 I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with 
 the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will 
 report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the 
 future updates to the app.
 
 --
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 Chaltain at Gmail
 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hulu again
> 
> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
> work
> normally.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hulu again
> 
> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but 
> if I flick
> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my 
> finger
> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
> didn't.
> I have the latest phone and operating system.
> Matthew
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
> the Siri
> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
> through
> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
> episode
> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
> itself. So it’s
> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
> mattered,
> but it might.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> 
>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
>> the show titles.
>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
>> 
>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
>> 
>> This is what seems to happen.
>> 
>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
>> why I say this.
>> 
>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
>> options button.
>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
>> the next line, which is on the go to details button.
>> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view
>> options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go
>> to a new line.
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 

Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Mike B]

Cool, nice tip.  Thanks much.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Shai
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


Hello Mike,
After placing the call with Siri using the Bluetooth headset, there is
a call in progress button that should be at the top right  of your
screen. Double tapping on that button always makes the KeyPad visible
to me everytime.


On 12/2/20, Mike B  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air
> headset.
>
> Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously
> mentioned devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is
> completed but, the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon,
> then, KeyPad but, after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to
> activate a prompt.  It's like the KeyPad is dead.
>
> An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, 
> #7
>
> prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound 
> telling
>
> me the prompt had been pressed.
>
> I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure
> how I did it!
>
> Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always
> functionable when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly
> appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Stewart McKay]

 definitely is.  no  might be about it

On Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 9:16:14 PM EST, Mike B 
 wrote:  
 
  Hi Holly, No, this is when I'm using a blutooth earpiece or headset device 
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
- Original Message - From: Holly To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: 
Wednesday, December 02, 2020 3:09 PMSubject: Re: Keypad Not in Focus After 
Placing Phone Call
Mike: Do you have the speaker enabled when you take the phone away from your 
ear?  If so, make sure the phone is far enough away from your ear when you try 
to activate the keypad. This happened to me once when I had the phone on the 
desk, but my ear was too close to the phone and the keypad wouldn’t show. Just 
a shot in the dark.

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Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Mike B]

It would come up just with touching the screen or by pressing just the Home 
button but, only after opening the phone app and choosing the KeyPad tab.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Simon A Fogarty
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


It shouldn’t matter if the screen is locked or unlocked,



I make calls using siri and the phone is normally locked.



But if you touch the screen to wake it or press the home button,

The keypad comes up,



Note though that this is a similar sounding issue to what I had / have in 
similar situations



So possibly it’s a IOS version issue.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike 
B
Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2020 11:40 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call



Something I noticed was that this setting is for an unlocked screen.  So, I 
usually keep my screen locked when out and about.  Would the fix then be to 
unlock the screen before making a call via Siri to avoid this KeyPad issue? 
Thanks  mooy moocho.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 

From: Mike B

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 2:15 PM

Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call



Hi Doug,



It's already set to, Full Screen.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Doug Parisian

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 1:57 PM

Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call



Mike, I think I can solve the problem.

Go to settings/Iphone and set the display to full screen and not banner.



Sent from my iPhone, Siri, and my lips


On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Mike B  wrote:



Hi All,



Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air 
headset.



Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously 
mentioned devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is 
completed but, the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon, 
then, KeyPad but, after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to 
activate a prompt.  It's like the KeyPad is dead.



An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7 
prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling 
me the prompt had been pressed.



I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure 
how I did it!



Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always 
functionable when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.


Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Mike B]

Hi Holly,

No, this is when I'm using a blutooth earpiece or headset device

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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From: Holly
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


Mike:

Do you have the speaker enabled when you take the phone away from your ear? 
If so, make sure the phone is far enough away from your ear when you try to 
activate the keypad.

This happened to me once when I had the phone on the desk, but my ear was 
too close to the phone and the keypad wouldn’t show.

Just a shot in the dark.

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Re: Hulu again

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same 
unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the WhatsApp 
group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear that it does. 
But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me.
> What phone are you using?
> 
> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
>> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
>> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
>> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
>> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of 
>> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others 
>> which makes zero sense.
>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
>> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
>> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
>> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
>> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of 
>> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others 
>> which makes zero sense.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the 
>>> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report 
>>> these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future 
>>> updates to the app.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hulu again
 
 Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
 work
 normally.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Bullis
 Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Hulu again
 
 I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but 
 if I flick
 right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my 
 finger
 around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
 I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
 didn't.
 I have the latest phone and operating system.
 Matthew
 
 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
 the Siri
 mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
 through
 TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
 episode
 number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
 itself. So it’s
 not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
 mattered,
 but it might.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  
>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
> the show titles.
> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
> 
> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
> 
> This is what seems to happen.
> 
> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
> why I say this.
> 
> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
> options button.
> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
> the next line, which is on the go to details button.
> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view
> options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go
> to a new line.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show
>> titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a
>> WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works
>> fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you
>> hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two
>> devices where 

Re: Hulu again

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Mary,

I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me.
What phone are you using?

I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason.

Chris


> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of 
> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others 
> which makes zero sense.
> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of 
> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others 
> which makes zero sense.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the 
>> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report 
>> these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates 
>> to the app.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>>> 
>>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
>>> work
>>> normally.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>>> 
>>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if 
>>> I flick
>>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my 
>>> finger
>>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
>>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
>>> didn't.
>>> I have the latest phone and operating system.
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
>>> the Siri
>>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
>>> through
>>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
>>> episode
>>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
>>> itself. So it’s
>>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
>>> mattered,
>>> but it might.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
 the show titles.
 First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
 I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
 
 I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
 
 This is what seems to happen.
 
 It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
 why I say this.
 
 For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
 options button.
 As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
 the next line, which is on the go to details button.
 But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view
 options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go
 to a new line.
 
 Chris
 
 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show
> titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a
> WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works
> fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you
> hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two
> devices where it does not work at all, I only see details and more options
>>> rather than titles.
> Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference
> between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had
> this problem and fixed it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Hulu again

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Mary, I am using Samantha enhanced.

Chris


> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of 
> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others 
> which makes zero sense.
> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I 
> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of 
> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others 
> which makes zero sense.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the 
>> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report 
>> these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates 
>> to the app.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>>> 
>>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
>>> work
>>> normally.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Matthew Bullis
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>>> 
>>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if 
>>> I flick
>>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my 
>>> finger
>>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
>>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
>>> didn't.
>>> I have the latest phone and operating system.
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
>>> the Siri
>>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
>>> through
>>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
>>> episode
>>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
>>> itself. So it’s
>>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
>>> mattered,
>>> but it might.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
 the show titles.
 First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
 I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
 
 I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
 
 This is what seems to happen.
 
 It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
 why I say this.
 
 For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
 options button.
 As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
 the next line, which is on the go to details button.
 But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view
 options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go
 to a new line.
 
 Chris
 
 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show
> titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a
> WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works
> fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you
> hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two
> devices where it does not work at all, I only see details and more options
>>> rather than titles.
> Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference
> between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had
> this problem and fixed it?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Hulu again

[Mary Otten]

That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I am 
a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of the 
operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which 
makes zero sense.
That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I am 
a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending 
something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question 
remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not 
including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of the 
operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which 
makes zero sense.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the 
> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report 
> these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates 
> to the app.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
>> work
>> normally.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew Bullis
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Hulu again
>> 
>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if 
>> I flick
>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my 
>> finger
>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
>> didn't.
>> I have the latest phone and operating system.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
>> the Siri
>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
>> through
>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the episode
>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show itself. 
>> So it’s
>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
>> mattered,
>> but it might.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> 
>>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
>>> the show titles.
>>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
>>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
>>> 
>>> This is what seems to happen.
>>> 
>>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
>>> why I say this.
>>> 
>>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
>>> options button.
>>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
>>> the next line, which is on the go to details button.
>>> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view
>>> options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go
>>> to a new line.
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show
 titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a
 WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works
 fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you
 hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two
 devices where it does not work at all, I only see details and more options
>> rather than titles.
 Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference
 between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had
 this problem and fixed it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Hulu again

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the 
operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report these 
issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates to the 
app.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hulu again
> 
> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will work
> normally.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Bullis
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Hulu again
> 
> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if I 
> flick
> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my 
> finger
> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful.
> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
> didn't.
> I have the latest phone and operating system.
> Matthew
> 
> 
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is the 
> Siri
> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
> through
> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the episode
> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show itself. 
> So it’s
> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that 
> mattered,
> but it might.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mary,
> >
> > I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of
> > the show titles.
> > First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and
> > I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
> >
> > I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
> >
> > This is what seems to happen.
> >
> > It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is
> > why I say this.
> >
> > For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view
> > options button.
> > As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on
> > the next line, which is on the go to details button.
> > But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view
> > options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go
> > to a new line.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> >>
> >> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show
> >> titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a
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Re: Hulu again

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
work normally.


-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Bullis

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hulu again

I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if 
I flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I 
drag my finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. 
I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
didn't. I have the latest phone and operating system.

Matthew


On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Chris,
My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when 
going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number 
and the episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of 
the show itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be 
astonished if that mattered, but it might.



Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

Hi Mary,

I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the 
show titles.
First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am 
using the default Samantha enhanced voice.


I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?

This is what seems to happen.

It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why 
I say this.


For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options 
button.
As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the 
next line, which is on the go to details button.
But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options 
button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new 
line.


Chris



On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles 
in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group 
I’m part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One 
of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles 
just like you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not 
work at all, I only see details and more options rather than titles. 
Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference 
between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had this 
problem and fixed it?


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Re: Hulu again

[Matthew Bullis]

I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if I 
flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my 
finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. I thought 
turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it didn't. I have 
the latest phone and operating system.
Matthew


On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Chris,
My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is the 
Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished 
if that mattered, but it might.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the 
> show titles.
> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am 
> using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
> 
> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
> 
> This is what seems to happen.
> 
> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why I 
> say this.
> 
> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options 
> button.
> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the 
> next line, which is on the go to details button.
> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options 
> button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new line.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in 
>> the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m 
>> part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them 
>> even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like 
>> you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I 
>> only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out 
>> in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. 
>> Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it?
>> 
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Re: Hulu again

[Mary Otten]

Hi Chris,
My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is the 
Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going 
through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the 
episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show 
itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished 
if that mattered, but it might.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the 
> show titles.
> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am 
> using the default Samantha enhanced voice.
> 
> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?
> 
> This is what seems to happen.
> 
> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why I 
> say this.
> 
> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options 
> button.
> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the 
> next line, which is on the go to details button.
> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options 
> button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new line.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in 
>> the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m 
>> part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them 
>> even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like 
>> you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I 
>> only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out 
>> in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. 
>> Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Hulu again

[Chris Chaffin]

Hi Mary,

I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the show 
titles.
First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am 
using the default Samantha enhanced voice.

I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?

This is what seems to happen.

It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why I 
say this.

For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options 
button.
As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the next 
line, which is on the go to details button.
But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options 
button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new line.

Chris


> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in 
> the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m 
> part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them 
> even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like 
> you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I 
> only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out 
> in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. 
> Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it?
> 
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Hulu again

[Mary Otten]

I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in the 
home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m part of, 
and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them even 
demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like you’re 
supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I only see 
details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out in that 
WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. Are there 
folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it?

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Simon A Fogarty]

It shouldn’t matter if the screen is locked or unlocked,

I make calls using siri and the phone is normally locked.

But if you touch the screen to wake it or press the home button,
The keypad comes up,

Note though that this is a similar sounding issue to what I had / have in 
similar situations

So possibly it’s a IOS version issue.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mike B
Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2020 11:40 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

Something I noticed was that this setting is for an unlocked screen.  So, I 
usually keep my screen locked when out and about.  Would the fix then be to 
unlock the screen before making a call via Siri to avoid this KeyPad issue?  
Thanks  mooy moocho.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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From: Mike B
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

Hi Doug,

It's already set to, Full Screen.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

Mike, I think I can solve the problem.
Go to settings/Iphone and set the display to full screen and not banner.

Sent from my iPhone, Siri, and my lips

On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Mike B 
mailto:mb69ma...@fastmail.com>> wrote:

Hi All,

Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air 
headset.

Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously mentioned 
devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is completed but, 
the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon, then, KeyPad but, 
after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to activate a prompt.  
It's like the KeyPad is dead.

An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7 
prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling me 
the prompt had been pressed.

I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure how I 
did it!

Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always functionable 
when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly appreciated.  
Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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Re: Keypad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Holly]

Mike:

Do you have the speaker enabled when you take the phone away from your ear?  If 
so, make sure the phone is far enough away from your ear when you try to 
activate the keypad.

This happened to me once when I had the phone on the desk, but my ear was too 
close to the phone and the keypad wouldn’t show.

Just a shot in the dark.

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Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Shai]

Hello Mike,
After placing the call with Siri using the Bluetooth headset, there is
a call in progress button that should be at the top right  of your
screen. Double tapping on that button always makes the KeyPad visible
to me everytime.


On 12/2/20, Mike B  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air
> headset.
>
> Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously
> mentioned devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is
> completed but, the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon,
> then, KeyPad but, after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to
> activate a prompt.  It's like the KeyPad is dead.
>
> An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7
>
> prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling
>
> me the prompt had been pressed.
>
> I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure
> how I did it!
>
> Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always
> functionable when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly
> appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.
>
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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RE: after shockz quality

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorrry andy I’m having a laugh here thinking about what you were listening to 
while the person beside you was singing along.

And yeah in places I’m not sure of using GPS would be a possibility so that 
again is a reason,

The best I do now is put one of my pods in while walking and that gives me the 
gps details if I’m using google maps.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Thursday, 3 December 2020 8:49 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: after shockz quality

I use them primarily in mobile situations where I want to hear my GPS app, but 
also ambient sounds.  One problem that they have always had is audio bleed, 
this has improved over the years with successive models, but I remember riding 
the bus and the person sitting next to me humming along with my music.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: jasmine.kot...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 11:45 PM
Subject: RE: after shockz quality

Hi,
I have the Trekz Air, and I like them, but not for music. It’s sad that they 
cost so much, but the music quality doesn’t always feel that great.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:31 PM
To: only-apple-...@groups.io; 
viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: after shockz quality

Hi lists,

I’m taking a look at bone conduction headphones as an option to listen while 
I’m out walking,

I’ve been looking at the after shockz treks air
And the new After shockz aeropex

But as I’m not able to check the quality of sound I thought I’d see what people 
who have used these things, what they think of the sound quality,

I’m interested in things such as how much vibration is there against your cheek,
Is the base  high or low?
And do they have good volume or are they normally pretty quiet at a half volume 
point?

And what type of battery life are people getting out of these devices?

Cheers for any information folks might have.

Cheers.

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RE: after shockz quality

[Christopher Chaltain]

Sorry, but two things I forgot to add. First, there isn’t much base to speak 
off, at least not in the Titaniums. This doesn’t bother me at all, and in fact 
I kind of prefer it, when I’m listening to a screen reader or something being 
read or spoken. I get most of an 8 hour day from my Titaniums, probably closer 
to 6 hours of continuous listening, which isn’t the best of my collection of 
Bluetooth headphones, but it does blow away the Bose Frames or the AirPod Pros, 
which are the Bluetooth headphones I have that overlap the most with the 
Titaniums as far as my use cases are concerned.

 

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From: Christopher Chaltain  
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: after shockz quality

 

I don’t really have much to add that hasn’t already been said. I replaced the 
original AfterShokz Bluez with the Trekz Titaniums, so I’m now a few models 
behind, but IMHO, these are great head phones for the right use case. The noise 
bleed has gotten a lot better. With the Bluez, I’d never use them in a meeting, 
but I don’t have that hesitation with the Titaniums. The sound quality has also 
improved a lot, but I still wouldn’t use them when you want high fidelity, but 
in those cases, I’m usually reaching for something with some active or passive 
noise cancellation anyway. The volume has also improved, so I don’t have as 
much buzzing on my temples as I did with the Bluez when I crank up the sound a 
bit. As some else, probably Nimer, said, you do get some ear plugs that you can 
use to give you some passive noise cancellation. As has already been mentioned, 
this means you lose one of the big advantages of the bone conduction, but this 
does make them a bit more versatile, since if you’re in a noisy restaurant, and 
you need a few minutes of quiet so you can check in with Swarm, you can just 
pop in the foam ear plugs. I also find them extremely comfortable, but just as 
with sound quality, this is going to be subjective.

 

For me, the Titaniums are my go to head phones around the house when I’m 
listening to my screen reader, a book from BARD or a podcast. I still want to 
be able to hear what’s going on around me, like my wife talking to me. I’ll 
also use them when I’m watching a movie or TV show on Netflix, Prime or Apple 
TV+, and I still want to hear what’s going on around me, but in those cases, 
I’ll also frequently grab the AirPod Pros, which have better sound quality and 
I can toggle between noise cancellation and transparency.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: after shockz quality

 

I use them primarily in mobile situations where I want to hear my GPS app, but 
also ambient sounds.  One problem that they have always had is audio bleed, 
this has improved over the years with successive models, but I remember riding 
the bus and the person sitting next to me humming along with my music.

 

Andy

 

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From: jasmine.kot...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 11:45 PM

Subject: RE: after shockz quality

 

Hi, 

I have the Trekz Air, and I like them, but not for music. It’s sad that they 
cost so much, but the music quality doesn’t always feel that great. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:31 PM
To: only-apple-...@groups.io  ; 
viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: after shockz quality

 

Hi lists,

 

I’m taking a look at bone conduction headphones as an option to listen while 
I’m out walking,

 

I’ve been looking at the after shockz treks air

And the new After shockz aeropex 

 

But as I’m not able to check the quality of sound I thought I’d see what people 
who have used these things, what they think of the sound quality,

 

I’m interested in things such as how much vibration is there against your cheek,

Is the base  high or low?

And do they have good volume or are they normally pretty quiet at a half volume 
point?

 

And what type of battery life are people getting out of these devices?

 

Cheers for any information folks might have.

 

Cheers.

 

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RE: after shockz quality

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don’t really have much to add that hasn’t already been said. I replaced the 
original AfterShokz Bluez with the Trekz Titaniums, so I’m now a few models 
behind, but IMHO, these are great head phones for the right use case. The noise 
bleed has gotten a lot better. With the Bluez, I’d never use them in a meeting, 
but I don’t have that hesitation with the Titaniums. The sound quality has also 
improved a lot, but I still wouldn’t use them when you want high fidelity, but 
in those cases, I’m usually reaching for something with some active or passive 
noise cancellation anyway. The volume has also improved, so I don’t have as 
much buzzing on my temples as I did with the Bluez when I crank up the sound a 
bit. As some else, probably Nimer, said, you do get some ear plugs that you can 
use to give you some passive noise cancellation. As has already been mentioned, 
this means you lose one of the big advantages of the bone conduction, but this 
does make them a bit more versatile, since if you’re in a noisy restaurant, and 
you need a few minutes of quiet so you can check in with Swarm, you can just 
pop in the foam ear plugs. I also find them extremely comfortable, but just as 
with sound quality, this is going to be subjective.

 

For me, the Titaniums are my go to head phones around the house when I’m 
listening to my screen reader, a book from BARD or a podcast. I still want to 
be able to hear what’s going on around me, like my wife talking to me. I’ll 
also use them when I’m watching a movie or TV show on Netflix, Prime or Apple 
TV+, and I still want to hear what’s going on around me, but in those cases, 
I’ll also frequently grab the AirPod Pros, which have better sound quality and 
I can toggle between noise cancellation and transparency.

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: after shockz quality

 

I use them primarily in mobile situations where I want to hear my GPS app, but 
also ambient sounds.  One problem that they have always had is audio bleed, 
this has improved over the years with successive models, but I remember riding 
the bus and the person sitting next to me humming along with my music.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: jasmine.kot...@gmail.com   

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 11:45 PM

Subject: RE: after shockz quality

 

Hi, 

I have the Trekz Air, and I like them, but not for music. It’s sad that they 
cost so much, but the music quality doesn’t always feel that great. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:31 PM
To: only-apple-...@groups.io  ; 
viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: after shockz quality

 

Hi lists,

 

I’m taking a look at bone conduction headphones as an option to listen while 
I’m out walking,

 

I’ve been looking at the after shockz treks air

And the new After shockz aeropex 

 

But as I’m not able to check the quality of sound I thought I’d see what people 
who have used these things, what they think of the sound quality,

 

I’m interested in things such as how much vibration is there against your cheek,

Is the base  high or low?

And do they have good volume or are they normally pretty quiet at a half volume 
point?

 

And what type of battery life are people getting out of these devices?

 

Cheers for any information folks might have.

 

Cheers.

 

SF

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Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Mike B]

Something I noticed was that this setting is for an unlocked screen.  So, I 
usually keep my screen locked when out and about.  Would the fix then be to 
unlock the screen before making a call via Siri to avoid this KeyPad issue? 
Thanks  mooy moocho.
Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


Hi Doug,

It's already set to, Full Screen.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


Mike, I think I can solve the problem.
Go to settings/Iphone and set the display to full screen and not banner.



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On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Mike B  wrote:



Hi All,

Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air 
headset.

Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously 
mentioned devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is 
completed but, the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon, 
then, KeyPad but, after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to 
activate a prompt.  It's like the KeyPad is dead.

An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7 
prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling 
me the prompt had been pressed.

I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure 
how I did it!

Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always 
functionable when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


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[Mike B]

Hi Doug,

It's already set to, Full Screen.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

- Original Message - 
From: Doug Parisian
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call


Mike, I think I can solve the problem.
Go to settings/Iphone and set the display to full screen and not banner.



Sent from my iPhone, Siri, and my lips

On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Mike B  wrote:



Hi All,

Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air 
headset.

Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously 
mentioned devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is 
completed but, the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon, 
then, KeyPad but, after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to 
activate a prompt.  It's like the KeyPad is dead.

An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7 
prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling 
me the prompt had been pressed.

I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure 
how I did it!

Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always 
functionable when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.


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Re: KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Doug Parisian]

Mike, I think I can solve the problem.
Go to settings/Iphone and set the display to full screen and not banner.


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On Dec 2, 2020, at 2:46 PM, Mike B  wrote:


Hi All,
 
Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air 
headset.
 
Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously mentioned 
devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is completed but, 
the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon, then, KeyPad but, 
after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to activate a prompt.  
It's like the KeyPad is dead.
 
An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7 
prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling me 
the prompt had been pressed.
 
I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure how I 
did it!
 
Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always functionable 
when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly appreciated.  
Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
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KeyPad Not in Focus After Placing Phone Call

[Mike B]

Hi All,

Running an SE 2020 with iOS 14.2 and a bluetooth earpiece / or Trekz Air 
headset.

Whenever i tell Siri to call a phone number via one of the previously 
mentioned devices, whether it's in my contacts or not, the phone call is 
completed but, the keypad is not in focus.  So, I go to the, Phone icon, 
then, KeyPad but, after activating the KeyPad you can't press a number to 
activate a prompt.  It's like the KeyPad is dead.

An example is, I had to call the blood lab but, I needed to activate the, #7 
prompt, but when I pressed the, #7 prompt, the KeyPad made no sound telling 
me the prompt had been pressed.

I fumbled around and finally got the KeyPad functioning but, I'm not sure 
how I did it!

Can someone tell me a way, or what to do to make the KeyPad always 
functionable when calling using a bluetooth device?  All help is greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks mooy moocho.

Stay safe and take care.  Mike.

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Re: Money Reader Alternatives

[Agent086b]

Hi,
Seeing AI does not work with $AU, so probably not NZ either.
Max.

> On 2 Dec 2020, at 12:06 pm, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> EyeNote is for US only.
> Seeing AI and I think TapTapSee work with other currencies.
> Cash Reader is the best for having lots of currencies.
> If I didn't only have to deal with US money, I'd buy Cash Reader for sure.
> If you read the details on the app store page, they list out all the 
> currencies and languages it works with.
> Quite impressive.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
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> 
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> 
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 4:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Money Reader Alternatives
> 
> So do these money readers work for all currancys or are they limited to the 
> Us dollar?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Margaret Booth
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 December 2020 1:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Money Reader Alternatives
> 
> I use cash reader. I find it does a good job. 
> 
> Margaret 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 2 Dec 2020, at 1:47 am, Joe Orozco  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, I seem to have lost my Money Reader app when I switched phones.
>> The app shows up in my folder where it previously was, but it just 
>> says loading. Shouldn't I be able to keep whatever old app I please?
>> Anyway, personal rants aside, can anyone tell me of a good Money 
>> Reader app alternative? I don't mind paying, but if there are any good 
>> free ones, that would be awesome too. Thank you so much in 
>> advance.--Joe
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Re: after shockz quality

[Andy Baracco]

I use them primarily in mobile situations where I want to hear my GPS app, but 
also ambient sounds.  One problem that they have always had is audio bleed, 
this has improved over the years with successive models, but I remember riding 
the bus and the person sitting next to me humming along with my music.

Andy

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  Subject: RE: after shockz quality


  Hi, 

  I have the Trekz Air, and I like them, but not for music. It’s sad that they 
cost so much, but the music quality doesn’t always feel that great. 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
A Fogarty
  Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:31 PM
  To: only-apple-...@groups.io; viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: after shockz quality

   

  Hi lists,

   

  I’m taking a look at bone conduction headphones as an option to listen while 
I’m out walking,

   

  I’ve been looking at the after shockz treks air

  And the new After shockz aeropex 

   

  But as I’m not able to check the quality of sound I thought I’d see what 
people who have used these things, what they think of the sound quality,

   

  I’m interested in things such as how much vibration is there against your 
cheek,

  Is the base  high or low?

  And do they have good volume or are they normally pretty quiet at a half 
volume point?

   

  And what type of battery life are people getting out of these devices?

   

  Cheers for any information folks might have.

   

  Cheers.

   

  SF

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Re: In accessibility of the Hulu app on the phone

[Mary Otten]

Nope. I can search in the Hulu app. That isn’t the problem. The problem is that 
there does not seem to be an efficient way to find out what they actually have 
an offer without a ridiculous laborious process. Big fat Hulu fail!
Oddly enough, they just had an update today which talks about Accessibility 
improvements. That wasn’t one of them.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:59 AM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
> 
> You may want to try using the tv app.  In other words, type the name of the 
> show that you wish to watch in the tv app.  Basically, when it shows up in 
> your search results, it will bring you to hulu if that program is available 
> on hulu.  Then, the next time you go to the tv app, if you have not finished 
> the series, it will say, continue watching, and it will name the program.  I 
> find this much easier to use hulu this way.  If you need any more help, let 
> me know.  
> 
> 
> Candy 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 1:42 AM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Mary, 
>> I agree with you. I signed up for it when it first started coming out with 
>> the deal that comes with Spotify. It bites with accessibility. 
>> 
>> Jasmine
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:30 PM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: In accessibility of the Hulu app on the phone
>> 
>> I thought I had been hearing people say that the Hulu app has become much 
>> more accessible. I signed up for the deal they had over the last long 
>> weekend, but I am not finding it to be particularly accessible. If I open 
>> the app, I am in the home tab by default. If I double tap on TV shows, 
>> everything that comes up on the TV show screen has no label. You have two 
>> choices for each show, details and more options. But the title of the show 
>> is never mentioned. If that’s someone’s idea of Accessibility, it’s not 
>> mine. What am I missing? That’s an absolute showstopper. I’m not going to 
>> double tap on every stupid thing on the screen just to try defined out what 
>> shows are available. That’s ridiculous.
>> 
>> 
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RE: I cannot get my orbit writer to pair properly with my iPhone 6s and I’m using iOS 14.2

[Richard Turner]

Jerry,
Since I cannot get your direct Email from the group list for some reason, could 
you send me your direct contact info to me privately, I may be able to get 
someone from Orbit to reach out to you.
My email is: richardturne...@outlook.com



Richard
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*I’m not the card shark

From: 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 10:01 PM
To: V i Phone 
Subject: I cannot get my orbit writer to pair properly with my iPhone 6s and 
I’m using iOS 14.2

Hi folks. I’m wondering if anybody else can help me with this I have the orbit 
writer by orbit research. And I’m on able to get it repaired properly using the 
SRP protocol
And I’ve tried everything from resetting my entire phone to restoring my phone 
to upgrading the orbit writers firmware, to resetting the orbit writer and no 
luck. It will not pair. It actually gets going to pair but then it disconnects. 
And it still shows up in the phone as orbit Reader 20 but it doesn’t wanna 
connect it keeps saying disconnected because it’s not paired properly. I don’t 
know what to do. I’ve tried getting a hold of orbit research but they don’t 
answer their phones and I’m getting really frustrated. Does anyone have any 
idea on what I can do here I really enjoyed using this keyboard when it used to 
work. It stopped working today all of a sudden and I don’t know why. Anyone’s 
help would be appreciated. Thank you
Jerry Mader
Listen to my podcast the Mader cast. Please remember that it is adults only so 
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Just search for it on your podcast player of choice or go to:
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Re: In accessibility of the Hulu app on the phone

[Candy Lowe]

You may want to try using the tv app.  In other words, type the name of the 
show that you wish to watch in the tv app.  Basically, when it shows up in your 
search results, it will bring you to hulu if that program is available on hulu. 
 Then, the next time you go to the tv app, if you have not finished the series, 
it will say, continue watching, and it will name the program.  I find this much 
easier to use hulu this way.  If you need any more help, let me know.  


Candy 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2020, at 1:42 AM,  
>  wrote:
> 
> Mary, 
> I agree with you. I signed up for it when it first started coming out with 
> the deal that comes with Spotify. It bites with accessibility. 
> 
> Jasmine
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 8:30 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: In accessibility of the Hulu app on the phone
> 
> I thought I had been hearing people say that the Hulu app has become much 
> more accessible. I signed up for the deal they had over the last long 
> weekend, but I am not finding it to be particularly accessible. If I open the 
> app, I am in the home tab by default. If I double tap on TV shows, everything 
> that comes up on the TV show screen has no label. You have two choices for 
> each show, details and more options. But the title of the show is never 
> mentioned. If that’s someone’s idea of Accessibility, it’s not mine. What am 
> I missing? That’s an absolute showstopper. I’m not going to double tap on 
> every stupid thing on the screen just to try defined out what shows are 
> available. That’s ridiculous.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Login to Mac mini with Braille display

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Well, if just got a blunt reply from Orbit Research:
“ Greetings from Orbit Research!
 
As of now Orbit reader, 20 Braille display will not be automatically connected 
with Mac Book on the log-on screen when we turn on the Mac Computers.”
So, I will carry on logging in with my Apple magic keyboard and then transfer 
to the Orbit Research 20!
Thanks
Harry 

> On 30 Nov 2020, at 15:23, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> Space with low h, dots 2,3,6 toggles the input mode. Just keep pressing it 
> to go through the modesIt has to be on, and connected. Did you say if you are 
> connecting via USB or bluetooth?
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 6:57 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> VoiceOver comes on immediately my Mac starts up so my orbit reader should 
>> connect. The display is set to 6 dot UEB BY DEFAULT. Is there a Braille 
>> command to change to 8 dot and tgen back to 6 dot? And is such a command 
>> executed while the orbit reader 20 is turned on? Off? Or when I’ve opened 
>> the Menu?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> 
 On 30 Nov 2020, at 13:47, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> VoiceOver has to be running before the braille display can do anything.On 
>>> an iPhone, I can enter my passcode by switching to 8 dot brl.When does VO 
>>> load on your Mac?If it is on before the password, I would think it would 
>>> work. Perhaps time to call Apple?
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
> On Nov 30, 2020, at 4:22 AM, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
 
 
> I have just set up my new Mac mini with M1 chip and I have successfully 
> paired via Bluetooth  my braille display, which is an orbit reader 20. 
> The only thing I cannot seem to do is to get my braille display to be 
> recognised and connected at the login screen when I turn my Mac Mini on. 
> I am using file vault, so I have to type in a password. This works fine 
> if I use my Apple magic keyboard, but my orbit reader 20 just sits there 
> and is not  recognised by the Mac Mini until after login, when it 
> suddenly makes a little sound to indicate that it has connected to the 
> Mac Mini.
> Is there anything I can do to make the Braille display connect at login 
> rather than only after login?
> Thanks
> Harry Bell
 
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