RE: Siri and music recognition

[M. Taylor]

Hello Tom,

I am running the latest commercial release of iOS on my beloved 14 and Siri 
identifies music just as well as it has always done.

In fact, even in a crowded restaurant or out on the sidewalk, Siri has never 
failed to respond with the name of the song in question.

A couple of days ago, while in a car at a stop light, I heard music being 
played from another vehicle and, even as the light changed and our respective 
vehicles began to move farther apart, Siri managed to grab the name of the song 
the driver of the other car was playing.

When I ask Siri to identify a song, I never have a headset attached to the 
device.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri and music recognition

Yes, Alexa—enabled Sonos speakers are using Tune-in Radio to  bring in KEGR 
Radio out of northern California. Using Pandora on the same speakers to bring 
in the George Friedrich Handel channel I get the same results. 


On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:
To make sure I understand your issue, you are listening to something through 
the Sonos system and ask your iPhone to identify the song; is that correct? Are 
you using Sonos Radio, TuneIn, Spotify, or what for your source? I'll try to 
dumplicate the issue but want to know I'm trying the same situation. 


Richard, USA
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On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
Hi folks,
Up until IOS 17's recent updates, I've been able to ask Siri what music is 
being played on the radio, through my Sonos speakers or whatever. But now it 
says it can't recognize music right now, which it used to do pretty reliably. 
When I asked Siri why it can't do that, it gives me the usual BS answer about 
it finding something on the web but won't give me a direct answer, which is 
another pet peeve. Don't tell me that you found something on the web, just give 
me the effin' answer, dammit! I get so aggravated with Siri's apparent 
stupidity and annoying behavior.  So what's the deal with Siri's inability to 
recognize music that's being played and picked up with the phone's microphone? 
Anybody notice this? If so, what did you do about it? Thanks,
Tom 

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RE: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google Assistant or Alexa?

[Feliciano Godoy]

Hi,
I imagine that both platforms have the same commands, but you need to research 
that. Look up the commands for both platforms then go from there. Both 
platforms are great, it's a matter of what works best for you and what you want 
to accomplish.

Feliciano 


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Subject: Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google Assistant or 
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Hello all,

The subject line says it. I was hoping I would not need to get a voice assist 
device but the app is not super accessible. So, if I do, which should I go with 
Alexa, or Google Assistant?

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Which is better to use with my Maytag smart dryer? Google Assistant or Alexa?

[Beth G]

Hello all,

The subject line says it. I was hoping I would not need to get a voice assist 
device but the app is not super accessible. So, if I do, which should I go with 
Alexa, or Google Assistant?

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Re: Siri and music recognition

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On 1/4/24, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:
> I solbed this by putting Shazam app on my home page. More efficient.
> Feliciano
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>> On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks,
>> Up until IOS 17's recent updates, I've been able to ask Siri what music is
>> being played on the radio, through my Sonos speakers or whatever. But now
>> it says it can't recognize music right now, which it used to do pretty
>> reliably. When I asked Siri why it can't do that, it gives me the usual BS
>> answer about it finding something on the web but won't give me a direct
>> answer, which is another pet peeve. Don't tell me that you found something
>> on the web, just give me the effin' answer, dammit! I get so aggravated
>> with Siri's apparent stupidity and annoying behavior.  So what's the deal
>> with Siri's inability to recognize music that's being played and picked up
>> with the phone's microphone? Anybody notice this? If so, what did you do
>> about it? Thanks,
>> Tom
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Re: Siri and music recognition

[Feliciano Godoy]

I solbed this by putting Shazam app on my home page. More efficient.
Feliciano
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> On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> Up until IOS 17's recent updates, I've been able to ask Siri what music is 
> being played on the radio, through my Sonos speakers or whatever. But now it 
> says it can't recognize music right now, which it used to do pretty reliably. 
> When I asked Siri why it can't do that, it gives me the usual BS answer about 
> it finding something on the web but won't give me a direct answer, which is 
> another pet peeve. Don't tell me that you found something on the web, just 
> give me the effin' answer, dammit! I get so aggravated with Siri's apparent 
> stupidity and annoying behavior.  So what's the deal with Siri's inability to 
> recognize music that's being played and picked up with the phone's 
> microphone? Anybody notice this? If so, what did you do about it? Thanks,
> Tom
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RE: Ring Doorbell

[portillo.jim]

Wonderful. Which one do you have? Model?

 

 

From: sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com; portillo@gmail.com
Subject: RE: Ring Doorbell

 

Hi:

Yes, I have the ring doorbell and camera flood light.

Accessible with iPhone and Alexa.

Phone is more accessible. 

 

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portillo@gmail.com  
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To: portillo@gmail.com  
Subject: Ring Doorbell

 

Good afternoon,

 

I have the opportunity to get something like a Ring Doorbell. I’ve been 
thinking about getting one for a while, but I wanted to hear from folks 
regarding its accessibility and how you guys use it with either your phones or 
Alexa devices or something else. I’m looking at getting it sooner than later, 
so if you have thoughts, please let me know soon.

Thanks much.

Jim

 

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Re: Siri and music recognition

[Tom Lange]

Yes, Alexa—enabled Sonos speakers are using Tune-in Radio to  bring in KEGR Radio out of northern California. Using Pandora on the same speakers to bring in the George Friedrich Handel channel I get the same results.     On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:50 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:To make sure I understand your issue, you are listening to something through the Sonos system and ask your iPhone to identify the song; is that correct? Are you using Sonos Radio, TuneIn, Spotify, or what for your source? I'll try to dumplicate the issue but want to know I'm trying the same situation. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:Hi folks,Up until IOS 17's recent updates, I've been able to ask Siri what music is being played on the radio, through my Sonos speakers or whatever. But now it says it can't recognize music right now, which it used to do pretty reliably. When I asked Siri why it can't do that, it gives me the usual BS answer about it finding something on the web but won't give me a direct answer, which is another pet peeve. Don't tell me that you found something on the web, just give me the effin' answer, dammit! I get so aggravated with Siri's apparent stupidity and annoying behavior.  So what's the deal with Siri's inability to recognize music that's being played and picked up with the phone's microphone? Anybody notice this? If so, what did you do about it? Thanks,Tom -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/23C88EAE-BC57-4AA3-91D3-AE8C49A01BF8%40gmail.com.



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Re: Siri and music recognition

[Richard Turner]

To make sure I understand your issue, you are listening to something through 
the Sonos system and ask your iPhone to identify the song; is that correct? Are 
you using Sonos Radio, TuneIn, Spotify, or what for your source? I'll try to 
dumplicate the issue but want to know I'm trying the same situation. 


Richard, USA
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> On Jan 4, 2024, at 5:39 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> Up until IOS 17's recent updates, I've been able to ask Siri what music is 
> being played on the radio, through my Sonos speakers or whatever. But now it 
> says it can't recognize music right now, which it used to do pretty reliably. 
> When I asked Siri why it can't do that, it gives me the usual BS answer about 
> it finding something on the web but won't give me a direct answer, which is 
> another pet peeve. Don't tell me that you found something on the web, just 
> give me the effin' answer, dammit! I get so aggravated with Siri's apparent 
> stupidity and annoying behavior.  So what's the deal with Siri's inability to 
> recognize music that's being played and picked up with the phone's 
> microphone? Anybody notice this? If so, what did you do about it? Thanks,
> Tom
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RE: Ring Doorbell

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi:

Yes, I have the ring doorbell and camera flood light.

Accessible with iPhone and Alexa.

Phone is more accessible. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 4:56 PM
To: portillo@gmail.com
Subject: Ring Doorbell

 

Good afternoon,

 

I have the opportunity to get something like a Ring Doorbell. I’ve been 
thinking about getting one for a while, but I wanted to hear from folks 
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so if you have thoughts, please let me know soon.

Thanks much.

Jim

 

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Siri and music recognition

[Tom Lange]

Hi folks,
Up until IOS 17's recent updates, I've been able to ask Siri what music is 
being played on the radio, through my Sonos speakers or whatever. But now it 
says it can't recognize music right now, which it used to do pretty reliably. 
When I asked Siri why it can't do that, it gives me the usual BS answer about 
it finding something on the web but won't give me a direct answer, which is 
another pet peeve. Don't tell me that you found something on the web, just give 
me the effin' answer, dammit! I get so aggravated with Siri's apparent 
stupidity and annoying behavior.  So what's the deal with Siri's inability to 
recognize music that's being played and picked up with the phone's microphone? 
Anybody notice this? If so, what did you do about it? Thanks,
Tom 

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RE: Incoming call name announcement

[M. Taylor]

Hello Marilyn,

I have two suggestions for you:

1.
Increase the length of time it takes for an incoming call to be sent to 
voicemail.  In the US, the default time is set to 20 seconds.  However, you can 
call your wireless provider customer service department and request that the 
time be increased up to 40 seconds.

2.
During an incoming call, simply press the Volume Up button, once, located on 
the side of your iPhone.  Doing this will silence the ring tone and allow you 
to touch the display screen in order to get VoiceOver to speak the caller ID of 
the incoming call.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of MARILYN 
AND DON BILDERBACK 
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 10:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Incoming call name announcement

When a call comes into my cell phone, unless I am holding it or have it very 
nearby, I can never catch the announcement.  Whether unknown call or the name 
of a person in my contacts, I fail to know what it said.  Is there a solution? 

Marilyn
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Re: VoiceOver not reading photo text

[Alban Hoxha]

a je duke perdorur ios17.2.1

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Gezim 
Rexha 
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2024 1:51:49 PM
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Subject: RE: VoiceOver not reading photo text


Apologies if this is not exactly related to the topic, but my concern since the 
latest iOS version has been that I am not able to find the ‘explore’ feature. 
For example, if someone sends me a WhatsApp message containing photo, I no 
longer can explore and read the text on the photo.



I would appreciate any advice.



Cheers,

Gezim



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2024 4:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver not reading photo text



I am not having that problem. I am on iOS 17.3 beta.



Richard, USA

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On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:23 AM, 'John André Lium-Netland' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Hi,

Previously, if I wrote something both in the title text field and the photo 
text field/description field for a photo in the Photos app on my iPhone or Mac, 
VoiceOver would automatically read this text when I navigated between photos 
both in the iOS Photo app and the MacOS photo app. It was a nice way to keep an 
overview of the content of my photos.

The strange thing is that VoiceOver still read the title/description fields for 
the pictures I added descriptions for a year ago or more, but for my most 
recent pictures, even though I add titles and descriptions in the exact same 
way in the exact same text fields, VoiceOver now only reads «Picture» or «Live 
Photo» when I navigate between those new pictures in my photo library.

Has anyone experienced this, and do you have a solution?

I would very much have direct access to the title and descriptions, and not 
have to oppen the picture to read the description or title.

Best,
John André



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Re: Ring Doorbell

[Ignacio Suarez]

Hi Jim. Recently, I acquire the Blink door bell. It was suggested to me by the Amazon accessibility department. Supposedly it is the equivalent as the ring doorbell, but it is a cheaper version. As for my experience, I can tell you that it is very accessible with an iPhone, and it works with the Alexa speakers. The only issue I had was trying to add a subscription. I had my wife that is cited to do it for me. Other than that, when the bell rings, I get a video through my phone and the speakers ring at the same time. I hope this information is helpful for you. Take care. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 4, 2024, at 4:56 PM, portillo@gmail.com wrote:Good afternoon, I have the opportunity to get something like a Ring Doorbell. I’ve been thinking about getting one for a while, but I wanted to hear from folks regarding its accessibility and how you guys use it with either your phones or Alexa devices or something else. I’m looking at getting it sooner than later, so if you have thoughts, please let me know soon.Thanks much.Jim 



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Ring Doorbell

[portillo.jim]

Good afternoon,

 

I have the opportunity to get something like a Ring Doorbell. I've been
thinking about getting one for a while, but I wanted to hear from folks
regarding its accessibility and how you guys use it with either your phones
or Alexa devices or something else. I'm looking at getting it sooner than
later, so if you have thoughts, please let me know soon.

Thanks much.

Jim

 

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Re: Day one's daily streaks don't match reality

[Chris Chaffin]

I have not worked with the Day One app in the past few months, but it is 
suppose to count the days you submit an entry, not how many total entries.  I 
would submit this to their support because it could be a bug.

Chris


> On Jan 4, 2024, at 9:18 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
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> Ever since the "Diary" app I used for the past several years, is no longer 
> in the App Store, I decided to switch to "Day One", but the issue I'm having 
> is this: I tend to write a lot (maybe about 3/4 journal entries a day), thus 
> the journaling streaks don't seem to match up! For instance, let's say that 
> in reality I've journaled daily nonstop for 10 days, right? But when I look 
> at the streak within the app, it says I've journaled about 13 or so days! So 
> I imagine that in order for the streaks to match, one or 2 journal entries 
> per day is what should be done? Anyone of you'll use "Day One" that could 
> shed some light?
> And yes I've tried apple's just-released "Journal" app, but it still needs 
> some work to do, to reach the features "Day one" has!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Incoming call name announcement

[MARILYN AND DON BILDERBACK]

When a call comes into my cell phone, unless I am holding it or have it
very nearby, I can never catch the announcement.  Whether unknown call or
the name of a person in my contacts, I fail to know what it said.  Is
there a solution? 

 

Marilyn

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Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.

[Yohandy Rodriguez]

thanks for all the suggestions everyone! Yes I do have a Bluetooth keyboard. 
I'll try checking these out and see if issue gets fixed.

- Original Message -
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Sent: 1/1/2024 5:47:03 PM
Subject: Re: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.



Hello Anne,

If focus is on the keyboard and one does a two finger forward/back movement, 
(which I believe is mapped to VO-escape) then the keyboard is supposed to hide 
itself. Moving away and back to a text field should re-expose it.
When this happens VO says keyboard hidden, but it is not a dialog, but just an 
announcement.




On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:43 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

My setting for Braille keyboards says "onscreen keyboard on".  I was ending a 
call with the magic tap, nothing extra connected, and a button appeared saying 
"hide keyboard".  I 
don't know where it came from, but I skipped away from it and nothing happened.  Sometimes, though, the keyboard disappears for no reason I can find, and the only way I know to recover it is to connect the K480 and toggle it on.  It would seem there should be a setting on the phone that would recover it, since the stinkin' 
phone decides to hide it.

At 04:22 PM 1/1/2024, you wrote:

Hello,
I believe it is standard behavior for the onboard keyboard to hide itself 
when a bluetooth input tool is available. There is a checkbox in the VoiceOver 
settings for Braille displays that should change this.



> On Jan 1, 2024, at 12:37 AM, Ron Canazzi  wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I also have this issue using the Focus 40 Blue Braille Keyboard. I guess 
it has something to do with the bluetooth grabbing access to the iPhone and 
somehow hiding the keyboard.  I believe the toggle for the Focus 40 Blue to 
hide and show the keyboard is the Q chord (dots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 + space bar)

>
> On 12/31/2023 9:25 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
>> This happens to me  and I 
don't know why or how.  I can recover the onscreen keyboard with a bluetooth keyboard, but that isn't 
a real solution.

>> At 04:37 PM 12/31/2023, you wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible you have a Bluetooth keyboard around somewhere?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Chaltain at Outlook, USA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Yohandy Rodriguez

>>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2023 2:37 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: keyboard disappearing issue on Iphone. Help needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I've been having this weird issue for a while now, whereby Iphone's 
keyboard randomly vanishes. sometimes 
it's there, and sometimes not. It happens on any app, and I can't figure out 
what causes this or how to fix it. Sometimes double-tapping and holding on a 
text field brings it back, but not always. Any help would be much appreciated.

>>>
>>> thanks in advanced, and tc all!
>>>
>>> Yohandy
>>>
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searching of wireless mic to record outdoor videos for my iPhone

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

Hi list members, I am currently using iPhone 15 standard model. I am
willing to buy a wireless dual channel mic with charging case for my
phone to record videos on the go. I love traveling and i usually
record videos of the places i am visiting. But due to windy and
traffick situations, my voice doesn't get recorded in good quality
with the mic of the phone. Therefore I am looking to buy wireless mic
to record video with high quality voice.
The issue i am facing in selecting the mic is that, i want to use
voiceover while using the mic, while in most of the wireless mics, the
type C port of my phone is engaged by mic receiver and i can not hear
the voiceover on the speaker as phone treats the mic receiver as the
headset. Therefore if anyone has any good recommendation of a good
quality wireless mic to resolve my issue, let me know.
I was considering, Rode Wireless Me, DJI wireless mic, Boya link and
few others, but not sure whether these will work along with voiceover?

-- 
Mohib Anwar Rafay

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Re: Apple watch and sleep focus

['Angie Nutt' via VIPhone]

I’m glad that mystery is solved. Actually, I should have twigged I suppose 
because when I first started using sleep focus just before Christmas I noticed 
the display darkens; I can see a tiny bit. I noticed the display come to life 
when tapping the watch. I perhaps should have twigged that I needed to tap it 
once to wake and then twice to get the vibrations.

All the best
Angie


> On 3 Jan 2024, at 20:43, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where this 
> was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because the 
> first response I received simply stated what the support article said which 
> is a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple tap for 
> just minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is awake, place 
> your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is 
> turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the one-finger double 
> tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed to get the same 
> results".
> Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my 
> initial message, their reply, my response and then the second message where 
> they state an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
> To:  siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
> for just the minutes.
> This is with the screen locked.
> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep 
> or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then 
> perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled 
> and managed to get the same results.
> 
> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
> appropriate teams for further investigation.
> 
> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
> article:
> https://support.apple.com/HT209585
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour I 
> described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does nothing 
> and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time 
> in any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus 
> does, you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
> double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, one-two” 
> in a relatively quick manner.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support 
> article about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
> I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
> when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should also 
> be mentioned.
> 
> From: Apple Accessibility  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
> To: siegh...@outlook.com
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
> 
> Hello Sieghard,
> 
> We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that will 
> reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the appropriate 
> teams.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Apple Accessibility
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 2:13 AM
> To: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
> Subject: Apple watch and sleep focus
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct as 
> you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a bug.
> 
> All the best
> Angie
> 
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Day one's daily streaks don't match reality

[Gerardo Corripio]

Ever since the "Diary" app I used for the past several years, is no longer in 
the App Store, I decided to switch to "Day One", but the issue I'm having is 
this: I tend to write a lot (maybe about 3/4 journal entries a day), thus the 
journaling streaks don't seem to match up! For instance, let's say that in 
reality I've journaled daily nonstop for 10 days, right? But when I look at the 
streak within the app, it says I've journaled about 13 or so days! So I imagine 
that in order for the streaks to match, one or 2 journal entries per day is 
what should be done? Anyone of you'll use "Day One" that could shed some light?
And yes I've tried apple's just-released "Journal" app, but it still needs some 
work to do, to reach the features "Day one" has!

Gera
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RE: VoiceOver not reading photo text

[Gezim Rexha]

Apologies if this is not exactly related to the topic, but my concern since the 
latest iOS version has been that I am not able to find the ‘explore’ feature. 
For example, if someone sends me a WhatsApp message containing photo, I no 
longer can explore and read the text on the photo.

 

I would appreciate any advice.

 

Cheers,

Gezim

 

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Turner
Sent: Monday, January 1, 2024 4:15 PM
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Subject: Re: VoiceOver not reading photo text

 

I am not having that problem. I am on iOS 17.3 beta. 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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On Jan 1, 2024, at 5:23 AM, 'John André Lium-Netland' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

Hi,

Previously, if I wrote something both in the title text field and the photo 
text field/description field for a photo in the Photos app on my iPhone or Mac, 
VoiceOver would automatically read this text when I navigated between photos 
both in the iOS Photo app and the MacOS photo app. It was a nice way to keep an 
overview of the content of my photos.

The strange thing is that VoiceOver still read the title/description fields for 
the pictures I added descriptions for a year ago or more, but for my most 
recent pictures, even though I add titles and descriptions in the exact same 
way in the exact same text fields, VoiceOver now only reads «Picture» or «Live 
Photo» when I navigate between those new pictures in my photo library.

Has anyone experienced this, and do you have a solution?

I would very much have direct access to the title and descriptions, and not 
have to oppen the picture to read the description or title.

Best,
John André



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Re: Apple watch and sleep focus

[Tom Rash]

I got mine to work consistently as well.  They really need to make it easier to 
understand first time out.  Thanks to all of your persistence in getting it 
explained better. 


> On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:50 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> I finally got taptic time to work for me on my SE watch.
> I had to turn off raise to speak time in the VoiceOver settings, which didn’t 
> seem to do anything.
> Thanks for all the notes, otherwise I would have just thought it was an 
> unreliable service when VoiceOver is running. I was only able to get taptic 
> time to work when I didn’t want it, like when removing the watch from my 
> wrist.
> 
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 3:43 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I received another message from Apple Accessibility yesterday where 
>> this was also explained. I assume this was sent on to a higher level because 
>> the first response I received simply stated what the support article said 
>> which is a 1-finger double tap for hours and minutes and a 1-finger triple 
>> tap for just minutes. In fact, they even pointed out " If the watch is 
>> awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to sleep or if Wake on 
>> Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and then perform the 
>> one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus enabled and managed 
>> to get the same results".
>> Below is the entire conversation I had regarding this starting with my 
>> initial message, their reply, my response and then the second message where 
>> they state an additional tap is required if any type of focus is active:
>> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:39 AM
>> To:  siegh...@outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> 
>> Expected behavior with Taptic Time while VoiceOver is enabled is to use a 
>> one-finger double tap to feel hours and minutes, or a one-finger triple tap 
>> for just the minutes.
>> This is with the screen locked.
>> If the watch is awake, place your palm over the watch face to put it to 
>> sleep or if Wake on Wrist Raise is turned on, turn your wrist downwards and 
>> then perform the one-finger double tap. We tested this with a Sleep Focus 
>> enabled and managed to get the same results.
>> 
>> If you are receiving different results when trying these above steps, we 
>> recommend partnering with a member of our AppleCare Accessibility Support 
>> team to further troubleshoot. If they are unable to resolve the concern 
>> through troubleshooting, then they can escalate their findings to the 
>> appropriate teams for further investigation.
>> 
>> You will find the contact information for the team in the following support 
>> article:
>> https://support.apple.com/HT209585
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I will contact somebody because as I said, I consistently get the behaviour 
>> I described, i.e. if sleep focus is enabled a 1-finger double tap does 
>> nothing and I am sure my watch/screen is asleep.
>> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility  
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 2, 2024 1:43 PM
>> To: siegh...@outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> 
>> We wanted to quickly follow up and clarify that in order to use Taptic Time 
>> in any of the Focus modes that turn of the display, like the  Sleep Focus 
>> does, you will need to tap the screen once to wake it before performing the 
>> double-tap for Taptic Time. The gesture should be performed as “one, 
>> one-two” in a relatively quick manner.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> On Jan 02, 2024, at 8:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Thanks, that is my experience, it would be a good idea if your support 
>> article about haptic time would be updated to reflect this.
>> I don’t use Zoom of any sort, but I believe some gestures are also different 
>> when Zoom is enabled so if that is the case with haptic time this should 
>> also be mentioned.
>> 
>> From: Apple Accessibility  
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 10:19 AM
>> To: siegh...@outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: RE: RE: RE: Haptic time on /apple Watch
>> 
>> Hello Sieghard,
>> 
>> We’d be more than happy to request an update to our support article that 
>> will reflect this information and will ensure this request reaches the 
>> appropriate teams.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Apple Accessibility
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2024 2:13 AM
>> To: 'Angie Nutt' via VIPhone 
>> Subject: Apple watch and sleep focus
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I got a reply from Apple accessibility and actually, three taps is correct 
>> as you have to tap it once to wake it up. Hope that clarifies it; it’s not a 
>> bug.
>> 
>> All the best
>> Angie
>> 
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Re: Just a Quick Thanks to you All, from Moderator Mark

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, Mark, and everyone. I echo these sentiments as well. Take care. Esther.Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jan 2, 2024, at 12:11 AM, VIPhone  wrote:Hello Everyone,I just wanted each and everyone of you to know how much I appreciate being a part of this online community.Even though I am fortunate to live at this time in history, there are moments when the challenges of being visually impaired make me feel most alone in my struggles.  At these moments, I think of this community and remind myself that I am, in fact, not alone for I know many of you face the same or similar challenges and, for me at least, that makes the challenges a little more bearable.So, I thank you all for being there and wish you all a Happy New Year.May 2024 be the most accessible year, ever.Sincerely,Moderator Mark



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