Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I wish something could be done when you cancel out of email you want to make 
and you go to delete it it still shows up as a draft.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2021, at 9:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> You can just download it from the App Store. The direct URL is 
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/microsoft-outlook/id951937596
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 1:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> What do you do to download Outlook! I wouldn't know how to start, but it is 
> the devil I know. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 1:30 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> I agree with Christopher. If I'm remembering correctly, the focus issue with 
> the native Mail app started with some iteration of iOS 13. I started using 
> Outlook for iOS then and am so glad I did. It doesn’t have the focus issues 
> and I've used Outlook on my Windows desktop for years. I suggest you try 
> Outlook for iOS. It's free so trying it is easy and you can decide whether 
> the native Mail app is still preferable. I open the native Mail app from time 
> to time to see if it's any better but quickly return to Outlook for iOS.
> 
> Alan Lemly  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone with Outlook   for iOS 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
> Christopher Chaltain 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:52:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1 
> 
> I know it's already been mentioned, but this is why I switched to Outlook on 
> my iPhones.
> 
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> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Who is saying that the ScrollBar is the problem?
> 
> And, if that is the problem, why can't Apple make that optional.  I would 
> much rather do without the ScrollBar if loosing my place in the giant fat 
> middle of a long list of mail could be resolved.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> James B  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
> Casteen
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 10:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1
> 
> You are not alone with your frustration with the mail app. The problem & 
> cause of the hair pulling, & loud swearing, is the useless scrollbar!!! If 
> Apple wants to keep it, because some people want the scrollbar, make it an 
> option that can be selected or left alone in the depths of HE郎郎 for those of 
> us that find the scrollbar a only a pain in the A郎郎! Oh, lets not forget the 
> emails that won’t delete unless a magic trick is performed!郎郎
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Excuse me while I vent, as I’ve become increasingly frustrated with the 
>> native IOS mail app.  I’ve been using iPhones since the iphone 4  came along 
>> in 2010 or 2011, and I’ve used Mail with my GMail account, which has been 
>> around since 2007.
>> Over the years there have always been focus issues in message lists, and 
>> when ovening message threads for the first time I will rarely land on 
>> message 1. Then, when opening a message in the thread and using the Messages 
>> item in the  rotor to move to the next message, I may get bounced back to a 
>> message that’s way earlier in the thread than the one that I intended to 
>> move to. For example, let’s say I’m on message 50 of 120 in the thread. I 
>> use Messages in the  rotor and select Next Message. In this example, I might 
>> get bounced back to Message 21. 
>> These are just a couple of situations that are frustrating me like crazy.
>> I could try the GMail app or Outlook for Ios, but I like the native mail app 
>> for the most part and am realy surprised that Apple hasn’t managed to make 
>> the damn thing behave. 
>> Surely I’m not the only one who’s having focus issues such as I’ve described 
>> above.
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RE: new phone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi enjoy your SE, that's the next phone I want to get when its time for me to 
get another phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sharon Morton
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new phone

Thanks for all your advice. I am going with the SE. Rodgers gave me a great 
deal.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, April 1, 2021 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new phone

I have my phone set to not lock because I don't want to have to keep unlocking 
it.  I want to control whether my phone is locked or not myself.

On 4/1/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Right about unlocked screen. I have mine set on no automatic, so have 
> to be vigilant. I charge mine every other day most of the time.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 8:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new phone
>
> I'm looking forward to when I get my new iPhone to see if a newer 
> battery will work for me better then my 8.  I usually charge the 
> battery once per day.  If I'm not using my iPhone but still have it 
> on, I find that if I lock my iPhone the battery stays charged better.
> If I leave my iPhone unlocked the battery drains rather quickly.
>
> On 3/31/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> Goodness, I think I am spoiled to my 11's battery.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 7:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new phone
>>
>> Agree
>>
>>
>> Lyne
>>
>>
>>  Le 31 mars 2021 à 14:33, Brad Snyder  a écrit :
>>  
>>  
>>
>>  
>>  The SE 2020 is a nice phone, but it's a bottom of the line phone 
>> with low end components. The battery in the SE 2020 definitely does 
>> not have the same capacity as the higher end iPhone 11.
>>  This is the trade-off you make by going with the lower-priced phone.
>>  
>>  
>>  - Brad -
>>
>>  On Mar 31, 2021, at 12:54, Richard Turner 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>>  I’m not sure what you mean here.
>>
>>  You said concerning battery “I have SE 2020 and 11 for work and it's 
>> not comparable...”
>>
>>  
>>
>>  What isn’t comparable?
>>
>>  I know the 11 has a larger battery, but I use my SE 2020 a lot 
>> during the day and if I have to charge it at night I do, but I often 
>> get a full day’s use and often don’t need to charge it until the second day.
>>
>>  I play a couple simple games, do lots of email, web searching, 
>> listening to books, etc.
>>
>>  Or are you saying they are both way better than the iPhone X’s then 
>> yes, they are.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Richard
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical 
>> object<>to realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  My web site, www.turner42.com 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>>  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of l.d.ethie...@gmail.com
>>  Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:48 AM
>>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>  Subject: Re: new phone
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Hello,
>>
>>  my opinion is not also positive if we think about battery. I have SE
>> 2020 and 11 for work and it's not comparable...
>>
>>  Lyne
>>
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>
>>  Le 31 mars 2021 à 13:23, Brad Snyder >  > a écrit :
>>
>>  I’ve never heard of a "10 XP”.  Perhaps you are meaning the 
>> iPhone 
>> XR, which is already several iterations old, and I don’t recommend 
>> getting this one.
>>
>>  The iPhone SE 2020 is a solid choice.  My wife has one, and I 
>> say 
>> you can’t go wrong with this choice, if you want to go with a basic 
>> iPhone that still uses a Home button.
>>
>>  As Richard pointed out, the SE 2020 is the same size as the 
>> iPhone 
>> 7 and 8, and your 6S as well, though a case for the older models 
>> won’t fit the newer SE 2020 correctly, because the camera bump is 
>> slightly larger on the newer SE 2020.
>>
>>  
>>
>>  HTH.
>>
>>  
>>  - Brad -
>>
>>  
>>
>>  On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:12, Sharon Morton >  > wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>  Hello, I am coming to the end of a contract with Virgin, and my 
>> 6S.
>> I have been offered a deal with Rogers for an 10 XP. I would like to 
>> know what your opinion is on this phone, compared to an SE 2020.
>> Thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>>

RE: Recording on an iPhone.

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I think its in the utilities menu.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
danneyya...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 3:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Recording on an iPhone.

I use the voice memo ap on my phone and it works well, with very easy controls.
Check it out,
Danney
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Recording on an iPhone.

How do you record on the iPhone, please? 

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Re: explanation

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Are you able to share the file,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 28, 2021, at 1:34 PM, Anthony Borg  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello list
>  
> Can somebody tell me if there is away how to transfer a voice message in 
> Whatsapp to a pc via email and if so, can you please explain to me how to do 
> it?
> Thanks in advance
>  
> Anthony
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Re: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Supersense developers and apple.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard,
>  
> I agree that Supersense saying each Dropbox folder is in iCloud makes 
> absolutely no sense but it does that for me too. I'm not sure who to report 
> such a Voiceover anomaly to.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 1:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense
>  
> So, does it make sense that after getting Dropbox turned on in SuperSense, 
> (Thanks Malcolm) that when I open dropbox from supersense's dropbox option 
> that each dropbox folder says "in iCloud?"
> Confusedly yours,
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "Living by answers is a form of death. It’s only questions that keep you 
> living." -From, The Cross of Lead by Avi, chapter 24- 
> "I've often been asked, 'What do you old folks do now that you're retired?' 
> Well ... I'm fortunate to have a chemical engineering background and one of 
> the things I enjoy most is converting beer, wine and vodka into urine. I do 
> it every day and I really enjoy it."  -- Author unknown 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 27, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Malcolm. I think I must have used your method at least once but with 
> my aging brain, my memory seems to forget a lot more than it retains. When I 
> followed your steps and selected the Import PDF option, the browse screen 
> which opened was already on iCloud drive. All I had to do was go back one 
> screen and Dropbox was available there as I swiped right. This should save a 
> good bit of time when I do this in the future.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 11:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense
>  
> This is how I got Supersense to import a pdf stored on my Dropbox.
>  
> Launch Supersense and choose Import Image or PDF.
>  
>  
> Now select import pdf.
>  
> You will have a browser window open like Apple’s Files App.
>  
> Locate the More button and double-tap this.
>  
> You should have a list of available options that you can enable.disable.
>  
> One of these should be Dropbox and by default on my iPhone it was not 
> enabled.  After you reach Dropbox, swipe right and it should say off on yours 
> too.  You can double tap here to turn it on.
>  
> Select Done and Dropbox should have been added to your import from list.
>  
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 Mar 2021, at 16:30, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Alan,
> That is a great issue you have found with SuperSense.  It has lots of apps 
> you can import from, some that make no sense at all, but no Dropbox.
> First, write to them through the app and request Dropbox access.
>  
> They default to iCloud, though OneDrive is another possibility.
>  
> Have you tried triple tapping on the file in DropBox and select share and if 
> needed whatever it says for more than what is listed and see if supersense is 
> in there?
>  
> Let us know if you get it to work.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
>  
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>  
>  
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:49 AM
> To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
> Subject: Help needed getting image PDF in Dropbox folder to Supersense
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I'll admit up front that I'm a bit old school and prefer using my desktop 
> computer to do most of my email. I often get scanned PDF image files that I 
> want to run OCR on while preserving as much formatting as possible. I will 
> save these attachment images to an applicable Dropbox folder on my computer 
> so I can still access them with my iPhone SE 2020. I know I can use Voice 
> Dream Reader/Scanner to get the text read to me from these image PDFs but I 
> want to see how Supersense handles them. I've been unable to figure out how 
> to do this with Supersense so I'm asking the experts here.
>  
> I know Supersense has an import option but I could find no way using it to 
> access files in a Dropbox folder. I also tried going to the Dropbox app on my 
> iPhone and attempting to share the particular file with Supersense but 
> couldn't figure out how to do it. Even if Supersense has a way to import 
> files in a Dropbox folder, I'm not sure it will allow me to share the post 
> OCR version back to Dropbox.
>  
> Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.
>  
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RE: I think we're getting spammed

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Delete them.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther
Sent: Monday, March 8, 2021 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I think we're getting spammed

I was getting the same messages as well! What do we do about this? Esther P. S. 
I just deleted them without even opening them. I knew enough to do that, thank 
goodness!


Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Mar 8, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Maria Campbell  wrote:



 

Yes, I was thinking the same thing, as I keep getting top posts from 
this person.




Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com  

All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do 
nothing.
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On 3/8/2021 1:32 PM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:


I think we’re getting spammed by some one called Frank Youk.

 

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ringtones question

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi I was wondering is there a way to take a ringtone and convert it to mp3
from m4r?

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RE: Does anyone know how to create an event on Facebook using your personal profile on IPad/IPhone??

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Well Eleanor, I would assume it’s the same on the phone as it is on the 
computer. I don't know about the app or if you would do this in safari but you 
would flick to where it says events if you are logged into your account, there 
should be a add event and you would just have to fill in your event info and 
just choose done or next or save.

-Original Message-
From: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2021 4:40 PM
To: macvisionar...@googlegroups.com; VIphone
Subject: Does anyone know how to create an event on Facebook using your 
personal profile on IPad/IPhone??

Hi all 

Just wondering if anyone could help with this please. I’ve got an event coming 
up and would like to create it on Facebook. I don’t have a Facebook page of any 
sort, just my own personal profile. So just wondered if anyone could send me 
some instructions on how to create a Facebook event using my personal profile 
please?? I’d be creating it using my IPad or IPhone, not computer. 

Many thanks for any help anyone can give. 

Eleanor 

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RE: Zoom and iPhone question

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

*9 for raising hand not *1.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn
Sent: February 11, 2021 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Zoom and iPhone question

On phone Zoom, *1 is to raise your hand. *6 is to unmute. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of R 
Van Lant
Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2021 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Zoom and iPhone question

Hi,

I like to attend Zoom calls from my phone quite often. I just attended one this 
morning that was in webinar format where I could not unmute to ask a question 
of a panel.  They wanted us to use the Q feature. I can get to this area, but 
my question was long and I had hoped to dictate it, but dictate won’t work 
while on the call.  Any work arounds you can think of this this?  On the fly, I 
tried to log into the call from my laptop to ask my question, but couldn’t’ get 
it loaded in time.  Next time,  I’ll try to have a Bluetooth keyboard 
available, but just curious why dictate couldn’t work and if there is anything 
you’ve done in this situation.

 

Robin with SE 2020 on IOS 14

 

 

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RE: Question About Sound When Plugging Cord Into Phone

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Did you check your mute switch maybe you put it on accidentally.

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Shirley Baker
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Subject: Question About Sound When Plugging Cord Into Phone

I have a 6S plus phone. I need to know how to get the sound back when you plug 
the wire into the phone when charging it. It vibrates but I don’t get the 
sound. What do I do to get that back please?

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RE: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Appointments you go to either every couple of weeks or months.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: January 30, 2021 12:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?

What's meant by Recurring Appoinments? because in my exploring of FantastiCal, 
I have been able to set events for every year, for instance.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 30 ene 2021, a la(s) 11:56 a.m., Richard Turner 
>  escribió:
> 
> Yes, and I'm not even sure you can do reoccurring appointments with the free 
> Fantastical.
> It is such a shame that they had to go to the over-priced subscription model.
> But, since this is a business, I understand their need for an income stream 
> that is somewhat predictable.
> I just don't see how any calendar function is worth paying for since Apple's 
> native Calendar has gotten so much better.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, www.turner42.com
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 9:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?
> 
> Richard,
> 
> I could find no lifetime subscription for Fantastical at this website:
> 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fflexibits.com%2Ffantastical%2Fpricingdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33f88abd564f4a2aa55808d8c545f2a0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637476251498039810%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=htjOpLsO0OcirW6uPhactemDCui26c%2F1tjf%2FRqoVnNA%3Dreserved=0
> 
> If one is so inclined to sign up for Fantastical premium, they can elect to 
> be billed annually which works out to $3.33 per month or be billed $4.99 
> monthly. I agree with you that what is provided for the premium subscription 
> isn't worth the cost. The above link provides a side by side feature 
> comparison between the free and premium Fantastical.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 10:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?
> 
> Well, I don't know if there is a life time subscription.  I think there is a 
> monthly and yearly but no life time and to me, it is unreasonable to pay $40 
> or $60 per year for features that mostly are already in the native Calendar 
> app, and now, are more easily done in the native Calendar app.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33f88abd564f4a2aa55808d8c545f2a0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637476251498039810%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=orVeE3F7HEaKt6YCObupxwAQwNPj2TfQbOTcY1%2FexIY%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FantastiCal Adding birthdays?
> 
> I decided to take ahcnace on it via the free tier, thus I imagine if I set 
> the event every year, it�d automaticaly mark it as a birthday?
> I�m curious if you who bought it, don�t you get a continuing lifetime 
> subscription? I�d ask just to be sure, because I would have liked for the 
> integration of the Calendar and Reminders in one app!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 30 ene 2021, a la(s) 8:21 a.m., Richard Turner 
>>  escribi�:
>> 
>> ?I used to use Fantastical and loved it until they went to the bloody 
>> subscription model and changed the interface. 
>> I'm not sure you can do what you want.
>> After putting in the calendar event in Fantastical, open the native calendar 
>> and edit that event and set it as a yearly event as a birthday.
>> I had deleted Fantastical months ago, and just downloaded it again to see 
>> what it is like now.
>> I will be deleting it again.
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
 On Jan 30, 2021, at 6:08 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> ?Really loving the feel and interface of Fantastical!; I�m 

Re: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Thank you mike That did the trick.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 12:42 PM, Mike B  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Simon,
>  
> Open Voiceover / Verboscity, swipe to, Container descriptions, and set this 
> to, do nothing.
> 
> Stay safe and take care.  Mike.
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 8:05 AM
> Subject: Re: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020
> 
> How do I change it from saying conversation.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Get out of the conversation and tap on the conversation and flick down until 
>> you hear show alerts and double tap.
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> bentleyj1...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020
>> Hi all,
>> I recently updated my phone from 13 . something to the latest IOS.
>> Now, when I am in message conversations, I hear the word muted.  Is this 
>> suppose to happen or maybe I have accidently made some kind of a change?
>> Thanks for any info.
>> James B 
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Re: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020

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How do I change it from saying conversation.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2021, at 11:04 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> 
> Get out of the conversation and tap on the conversation and flick down until 
> you hear show alerts and double tap.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2021 10:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: text messaging has changed on my iPhone SE2020
>  
> Hi all,
>  
> I recently updated my phone from 13 . something to the latest IOS.
>  
> Now, when I am in message conversations, I hear the word muted.  Is this 
> suppose to happen or maybe I have accidently made some kind of a change?
>  
> Thanks for any info.
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Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for SuperSense

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I find it odd that you have to provide an email address, in order to get the 
service whether it be free or if you pay a subscription for it. I wanted to try 
it out, but to put in my email address I’m not so sure.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Shane Lowe  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> Dennis, to answer your question, we actually never stored any
> information that was scanned by users, but the privacy policy didn't
> make that clear, so we changed it to reflect this.
> So not only do we not store anything that you scan, we never did!
> 
> 
>> On 1/5/21, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> What about the material you had stored already has it been deleted?  If not
>> what is the timefor deleting it?  Any idea when the sale will be?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shane
>> Lowe
>> Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 7:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and suggestion for
>> SuperSense
>> 
>> Hi everyone,
>> Great news! We no longer store any scanned material with Supersense, so you
>> are free to use the app with any materials you would like. :) We are also
>> expecting to have another sale before the summer time, so if you missed the
>> discounted pricing, there is still hope!
>> 
>> All the best, and happy 2021.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/28/20, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
>>> Hi shane,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for looking into this situation,
>>> 
>>> Privacy of ones personal data is a big problem in the world now so it
>>> is grea that you and your company have taken this on as an issue.
>>> 
>>> We do appreciate it and it will make me think again about the purchase
>>> of this product.
>>> 
>>> Mind you the price is high here in nz,
>>> 
>>> As for your staff being on holiday this week, Why the heck are they
>>> not slaving away, is there something on this week in your country?
>>> 
>>> We kiwis are working hard every day currently, At least I was today
>>> on my tanning!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> Shane Lowe
>>> Sent: Monday, 28 December 2020 9:38 am
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and
>>> suggestion for SuperSense
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Thank you so much for your feedback.
>>> We had this policy in place when we first launched Supersense to
>>> continue insuring the fidelity of the AI systems in the app, but in
>>> light of your feedback we will be moving forward to reconsider the way we
>>> handle data.
>>> Our team is off this week for the holidays, but I'll be in touch
>>> afterword.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 12/27/20, Evan Reese  wrote:
 I don't think I would buy it.
 It is all well and good to say that whatever they choose to keep
 won't be linked to your personal details. The big problem with that
 is that the documents I might need to scan, and the ones they choose
 to randomly keep, ARE, my personal details.
 
 Evan
 
 
 On 12/27/2020 12:27 PM, Dennis Long wrote:
> I agree.  This has caused me to rethink my purchase that I was 100%
> going to make before.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2020 5:51 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and
> suggestion for SuperSense
> 
> More to the point, why are they keeping scanned images?
> 
> Does the ocr not take place on the device and therefore shouldn't
> need to be kepts Correct me if I'm wrong but no one else keeps
> scanned images of things people OCR on their devices.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, 26 December 2020 6:23 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mostly For Shane - Issue, privacy questions and
> suggestion for SuperSense
> 
> Shane,
> 
> Are document scans ever deleted from your system to protect user’s
> privacy? Randomly collected scans of documents like mail, financial
> statements, employer communications and similar material may not be
> linked with a user’s personal details but the end user is
> identifiable in the documents. These electronic records could be
> subject to subpoena and expose blind people to the legal discovery
> process just for needing to read material. One way to limit exposure
> to this problem would be to delete these kinds of records regularly,
> such as every 30 or 60 days so third parties would not be able to
> access them.
> 
> The difference between your service and Seeing AI from Microsoft is
> that all data stays on the phone with Seeing AI and it is purged
> when the app is closed. The problem with blindness related
> interactive or cloud based services 

Re: Fwd: Sonos - Here to Help

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

What kind of answer is that.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 9:48 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Fwd: Sonos - Here to Help

I'm forwarding what I feel is one of the worst examples of customer support 
I've ever experienced.  
I was looking into getting some Sonos 1 speakers and an amp so we could have 
music in multiple rooms. I wrote their support to ask about the frequency range 
of the speakers and to check if there are different generations of the Sonos 1 
speakers. Below is there utterly useless response. I'm rethinking our plans. 



Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

Begin forwarded message:


  From: Sonos Support 
  Date: December 30, 2020 at 6:17:40 PM PST
  To: richardturne...@outlook.com
  Subject: Sonos - Here to Help


   
  Sonos
Customer Care 
 
   
Hi Richard,

Thanks for contacting Sonos. 

Unfortunately, we don't share that technical information 
with the public, I apologize for any inconvenience that this can cause.

Cheers,

Sonos Customer Care
   
   
  Case #: 02475560 
   

   

   
 
 



  --- Original Message ---
  From: Richard Turner [richardturne...@outlook.com]
  Sent: 12/29/2020 10:19 AM
  To: c...@sonos.com
  Subject: Frequency response of the Sonos 1


  I cannot find any specifications on the frequency response of the Sonos 1 
wireless speakers.



  Are there different generations of the Sonos 1 speaker?







  Richard, in the U.S.



  "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
was young."

  "Why, what did she tell you?"

  "I don't know, I didn't listen."

  -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy



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Re: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I’m not sure about that one.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:37 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Simon.  Once you select a video, how do you go about subscribing to 
> it? 
>  
>  
>  
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 4:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> Well when you open your YouTube app, you swipe through, there’s a search 
> button you double tap on it you type in whatever you want to search for, like 
> let’s say ABBA songs, then on the bottom of your iPhone screen to the right 
> there is a search button you double tap on that and then you swipe through 
> the list of videos that there are.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:18 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> Finding videos on Youtube.
>  
> Sorry for not clarifying.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> When you say “a guide to YouTube”, are you talking about finding videos on 
> YouTube, or uploading videos to YouTube?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
> Conger
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:31 PM
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> Subject: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> Good Afternoon All:
>  
> I am not a good searcher and tried to find a guide to Youtube on Applevis but 
> was so overwhelmed that I didn’t have much luck.
>  
> I need the very basics sort of like a step-by-step guide.
>  
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Re: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Well when you open your YouTube app, you swipe through, there’s a search button 
you double tap on it you type in whatever you want to search for, like let’s 
say ABBA songs, then on the bottom of your iPhone screen to the right there is 
a search button you double tap on that and then you swipe through the list of 
videos that there are.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:18 PM, Vivian Conger  wrote:
> 
> 
> Finding videos on Youtube.
>  
> Sorry for not clarifying.
>  
> Vivian and Sallie
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> When you say “a guide to YouTube”, are you talking about finding videos on 
> YouTube, or uploading videos to YouTube?
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vivian 
> Conger
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 3:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Youtube Guide for iPhone SE 2020 using 13.7
>  
> Good Afternoon All:
>  
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> was so overwhelmed that I didn’t have much luck.
>  
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Re: Drafts not deleting from email

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I’m afraid that’s not the only problem, there seems to be another issue where 
when you go to check your messages, voiceover will say that there’s a message, 
but when you enter in the inbox, there is no message there at all.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
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> Apple knows about this, but interested people might want to write to them 
> anyway. They confirmed on their end that if a single unsent draft is in the 
> drafts folder, it stays there even if you have tried to cancel and then 
> delete. For whatever reason I may change my mind at sending something, and 
> this is truly annoying to have to end up sending to myself in order to get 
> out of the draft mailbox
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Re: Drafts not deleting from email

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I had the same problem and I did not know what to do about it.

-Original Message- 
From: CrazyEyez

Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Drafts not deleting from email

Thanks for that.
Its been driving me crazy for a few days.


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 30, 2020, at 6:47 PM, Joney Owen  wrote:

I had this problem the other day. It was making me crazy. You could be 
out of the draft mailbox, but it always showed them at the bottom and when 
you open it to delete it it would simply put it back there so, I started 
another one and just put random keystrokes end and then canceled when it 
suggested delete I press the delete it did not instead it showed me both 
drafts I could hit the delete then and it deleted them so they were side 
messages. They have not returned since then. A strange way out, but it 
works.


Sent from my iPhone


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Apple knows about this, but interested people might want to write to 
them anyway. They confirmed on their end that if a single unsent draft is 
in the drafts folder, it stays there even if you have tried to cancel and 
then delete. For whatever reason I may change my mind at sending 
something, and this is truly annoying to have to end up sending to myself 
in order to get out of the draft mailbox


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Re: scanning apps

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi I recently got the fypido stand, however I am not quite sure of how to put 
the phone on it, but thanks for the suggestion.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: scanning apps

Simon,  
if you have trouble holding the phone over a document, no app is going to give 
great resullts. I do not like KNFB Reader. You may want to consider getting a 
scanning stand. I love Voice Dream Scanner, but its way of letting you know if 
you have text in view is a tone that plays. The louder the tone, the more text. 
If you have it on auto-capture, once you are steady at the loudest tone for 2 
or 3 seconds, it will take the picture. 
You want to be 10 to 12 inches above a full 8.5 by 11 document to get the best 
results. 
Supersense, tells you in words to move farther away, or 1 inch to the left, 
etc. Supersense has a free trial, and if you are convinced by it, right now it 
is haf price for a lifetime subscription for $49.99. Or there are monthly or 
yearly plans. 
Voice Dream Scanner on the other hand, is $5.99 one time purchase. 
They both have great points about them and Supersense is designed to deal with 
more objects than just text. 
You could also use the free Seeing AI app to scan a single page. 
Good luck.



Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  On Dec 23, 2020, at 3:29 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


   
  Yeah I would someday like to try I think it’s called voice dream scanner, I 
tried the knfb reader. I didn’t find it very user-friendly, as it was hard to 
get All of the page in the camera and it was kind of hard to keep the phone in 
one position all the time.

  Sent from my iPhone

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scanning apps

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Yeah I would someday like to try I think it’s called voice dream scanner, I 
tried the knfb reader. I didn’t find it very user-friendly, as it was hard to 
get All of the page in the camera and it was kind of hard to keep the phone in 
one position all the time.

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Re: Adding Contact Card To Contacts

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Hi Joy,

all you need to do is when you have the email open with the contact in it, 
double tap on that vcf file, then keep swiping right to where you hear voice 
over say add to contact.

From: Joy Cyr 
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 8:37 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Adding Contact Card To Contacts

Good morning, 
Someone sent a contact card to me from their iPhone contact's list  via email 
and I haven't been able to figure out how to add it to my contacts, or how to 
open it.  I'd be happy to learn how to do this on either (or both) my iPhone 
and/or my Mac.  

All help most appreciated!
Joy


"Watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you, because the greatest 
secrets are always hidden in the  most unlikely  places. Those who don’t 
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Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time subscription

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How much is this?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:59 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>   Doug,
> Read the description here:
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/supersense-ai-for-blind/id1484547836
>  
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Doug Sloan  wrote:
>>> 
>> What is supersense?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Wednesday, 23 December 2020 2:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> You can get the stand from the NFB market place.  However they charge for 
>> free matter shipping which I don't think is right.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> Until one or the other figure out how to separate columns, I won't bother 
>> doing books.
>> 
>> As for documents, I think they do a pretty equally good job.
>> 
>> I honestly do not know if Tomas Wardega has stopped making the FOPYDO stand, 
>> or if he has just had to stop selling them directly due to his stupid post 
>> office requiring too many hoops to allow him to send free matter for the 
>> blind.
>> At one point, he was going to sell them through the NFB Independence Market.
>> 
>> As far as my favorite stand, I'd say they are tied.
>> The Scanner bin is great if you are not traveling.
>> But, if I knew I was going somewhere where I might need/want to scan some 
>> documents or whatever, I would take the FOPYDO as it is easier to collapse 
>> and take with.
>> The Scanner bin will collapse, it is just bulkier and I think might not take 
>> as many repeat collapsing and setting up again.
>> 
>> I now default to the scanner bin at home because I have it on a shelf and 
>> just pull it out and do my scans.  No setup required.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, in the U.S.
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>> • I’m not the card shark
>> • My web site, 
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Ccac994456dd249cdfc9f08d8a6f455a5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442915624838922%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=q7HJRzE5MNrIC2kGltZtcmCppSQrlB0TnQuIPv5aVy4%3Dreserved=0
>> •
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:07 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Supersense sample and the reason I just bought the life time 
>> subscription
>> 
>> Hi richard,
>> Is this scanner been your new favorite scanning stand? I know you liked that 
>> other one, from Thomas somebody, whose last name I don’t remember. I guess 
>> he’s not making it though. The  have you compare scans of regular documents 
>> or books between super sense and voice dream scanner?
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I tried it with the Scanner bin and it worked Great!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>> 
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>> 
>>> • I’m not the card shark
>>> • My web site,
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
>>> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cc453bb834c284dbc653008d8a6b51ff7%7
>>> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637442644136597202%7CUnkno
>>> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
>>> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Hv7LGoViXb0kYbwFq2%2BU8BrSq7uS9JUc%2FDS
>>> QoR%2BFmJg%3Dreserved=0
>>> •
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 

Re: zoom and Ipads?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

It seems to be more accessible on the phone.

From: Dan 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:10 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: zoom and Ipads?

Hi all,




I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
laptop but am considering using my Ipad instead.




Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?




Thanks.




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Re: zoom and Ipads?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I just enter on the link Dan.

From: Dan 
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2020 4:10 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone 
Subject: zoom and Ipads?

Hi all,




I have some zoom meetings I attend every week.  I have been doing so via my 
laptop but am considering using my Ipad instead.




Have any of you done this and if so did you enter the meeting info or did you 
click on a link?  How accessible is the zoom app?




Thanks.




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Re: Email question referring to the voice sounds.

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi Jenny, you are going to have to setup the voices you want in the voice over 
settings in accessibility.

From: Jenny Bomareto 
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 12:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Email question referring to the voice sounds.

Hello all,

For some reason my email voice switched back to Alex so how do I get it back to 
the female voice it was on? Thanks in advance for your help.  Also the voice 
for messages changed back to Alex  as well.

Thanks for your prompt attention!

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Translate Photo+ OCR Camera

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/translate-photo-ocr-camera/id896187714


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Re: What Is Blue Sky and How Do You Turn It Off?

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yes.
- Original Message - 
From: "Shirley Baker" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: What Is Blue Sky and How Do You Turn It Off?


Do I actually need to open the app first and then turn the rotor to describe 
images and turn it off that way? It says turn off describe images for so I’m 
assuming I have to open the app to turn it off?


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 5, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Holly  wrote:

Shirley:

If it shows up in any app, just go to the rotor and turn it off by 
flicking. Once it is off, you won't have to do it again.


Just make sure you turn the rotor to characters or words, so you won't 
accidently enable it again.

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Re: Hulu again

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will 
work normally.


-Original Message- 
From: Matthew Bullis

Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Hulu again

I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if 
I flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I 
drag my finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. 
I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it 
didn't. I have the latest phone and operating system.

Matthew


On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

Hi Chris,
My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is 
the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when 
going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number 
and the episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of 
the show itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be 
astonished if that mattered, but it might.



Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin  wrote:

Hi Mary,

I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the 
show titles.
First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am 
using the default Samantha enhanced voice.


I wonder if it could be the voice you are using?

This is what seems to happen.

It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why 
I say this.


For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options 
button.
As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the 
next line, which is on the go to details button.
But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options 
button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new 
line.


Chris



On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles 
in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group 
I’m part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One 
of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles 
just like you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not 
work at all, I only see details and more options rather than titles. 
Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference 
between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had this 
problem and fixed it?


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apple TV and apps

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Sorry priscilla your message is blank

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 8:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:20 PM, Tom Cramer  wrote:

Hi there,
So now that I am playing with the Apple TV, I wonder about apps for
it. For instance, am I able to do things like email, texting and other
things like Facebook or Twitter?
I stream Facebook live concerts and it would be cool to have them
coming through the Apple TV which is hooked up to my home
entertainment system.
Tom

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Re: Hearing the name of the group

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I don't have that problem it says viphone for me.

On 11/17/2020 4:55 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:

Maria,

I expect the only fix for not hearing the group name would be for them to move 
the list to Groups.io which isn't likely to happen.

Alan Lemly

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Subject: Hearing the name of the group

When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the group?  Is 
there a fix?

thanks.


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Re: Hearing the name of the group

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

what does it say when you get a message from viphone?

On 11/17/2020 4:40 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
Using Windows10 and newest JAWS version.  When I get a message from 
the blind tech group, the first thing I hear is blind tech group, then 
the subject and then the sender.




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On 11/17/2020 4:34 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone wrote:

Hi how are you checking your email?

On 11/17/2020 4:27 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the 
group?  Is there a fix?


thanks.








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Re: Hearing the name of the group

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Hi how are you checking your email?

On 11/17/2020 4:27 PM, Maria Campbell wrote:
When I get a message from this group, I don't hear the name of the 
group?  Is there a fix?


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Re: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone

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Thanks for the information about walter2 I am in Canada, I don’t think I’ll be 
using that really often, someone also suggested to me to use the Apple iTunes 
store to get ringtones. Is that easy to use and accessible?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:30 AM, 'Kliph' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Its normally 40 USD, but on sale right now for 23
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2020, at 5:54 PM, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I looked up the walter 2 program, and was  trying to double tap on the buy 
>> link to find  out how much it cost, and no matter how many times I double 
>> tap on that link the phone doesn’t do anything.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since iTunes 11 or 12, you have to use iTunes to copy Ringtones from the 
>>> computer to the iPhone.
>>> So, you may want to talk with either or both Apple Accessibility or 
>>> Microsoft Accessibility.
>>> Apple: 877-204-3930
>>> Microsoft: 800-936-5900
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
>>> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
>>> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
>>> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - 
>>> Edward Herbert
>>> 
>>> Live long and prosper  
>>> 
>>> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
>>> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 2:45 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Computer Information Sharing Group 
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>>> Subject: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone! Hope everyone is going to have a nice start to this week, but 
>>> I was wondering how can I transfer ringtones from my computer to the 
>>> iPhone? When I had iTunes on the computer for some reason the latest 
>>> version crashes and sendeS me back to the  desktop.
>>> 
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Re: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

I looked up the walter 2 program, and was  trying to double tap on the buy link 
to find  out how much it cost, and no matter how many times I double tap on 
that link the phone doesn’t do anything.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Since iTunes 11 or 12, you have to use iTunes to copy Ringtones from the 
> computer to the iPhone.
> So, you may want to talk with either or both Apple Accessibility or Microsoft 
> Accessibility.
> Apple: 877-204-3930
> Microsoft: 800-936-5900
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> Live long and prosper  
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Monday, November 9, 2020 2:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Computer Information Sharing Group 
> 
> Subject: Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone
> 
> Hi everyone! Hope everyone is going to have a nice start to this week, but I 
> was wondering how can I transfer ringtones from my computer to the iPhone? 
> When I had iTunes on the computer for some reason the latest version crashes 
> and sendeS me back to the  desktop.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Has anybody used bitchute?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Whats this?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 10, 2020, at 1:16 PM, Lehmann, Timothy A 
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> Has anybody used bitchute, and if so, how accessible is it? Thanks and have a 
> nice day!
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Transferring ringtones from windows7 computer to iPhone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi everyone! Hope everyone is going to have a nice start to this week, but I 
was wondering how can I transfer ringtones from my computer to the iPhone? When 
I had iTunes on the computer for some reason the latest version crashes and 
sendeS me back to the  desktop.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi how do I go back to a previous version? the recent version seems to 
crash.


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Mark,

I don't know whether the latest iTunes for Windows version will run on a 
32-bit system but I'd recommend you execute your Windows 7 Start button and 
type Apple Software update in the box and see what it offers you. That's how 
I've gotten past iTunes versions on my Windows 7 64-bit system when I had 
trouble getting them from the Microsoft Store.


Good luck.

Alan Lemly

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 11:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop 
as my primary iTunes Library manager.


As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall, 
once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.


While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer 
supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.


So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove 
the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again, 
prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to 
upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.


So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to 
be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.


Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are 
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.


So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do 
not have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.


2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of 
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows 
that allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating 
system that are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the 
Microsoft Store?


All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi I have 12.10.10.2 I am not sure where you can get this version I just 
updated it when the computer asked me to update it sorry.


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:09 AM
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Subject: iTunes for Windows 7, on a 32-bit PC, anyone?

Hello Everyone,

Okay, up until now, I have continued to use my old Windows 7, 32-bit Desktop
as my primary iTunes Library manager.

As a result, I have iTunes 12.6.5.x on a Windows 7 PC.  As you may recall,
once upon a time, this version allowed one to access the app store.

While it continues to allow one to access the App Store, it no longer
supports device backup on anything running iOS 13 or later.

So, reluctantly, given that it would appear that Apple's decision to remove
the app store from iTunes is permanent; and given that I would, once again,
prefer to have actual iTunes backups of my devices, I have decided to
upgrade iTunes 12.6.x to the latest version of iTunes.

So, I went to apple.com/itunes and, to my surprise, there does not appear to
be a 32-bit version of iTunes 12.7 available.

Have I waited too long to update?

The only older versions of iTunes I can find on that particular site are
versions older than 12.6 and all appear to be 64-bit only.

So, I have two questions:

1.
What is the latest version of iTunes for Windows?  Keep in mind that I do
not have access to the Microsoft store on a Windows 7, 32-bit PC.

2.
Does anyone know from where I may download the latest 32-bit version of
iTunes for Windows 7?  Is anyone running a version of iTunes for Windows
that allows for backing up iOS / iPad OS running versions of the operating
system that are at least 13.x or higher, that was not downloaded from the
Microsoft Store?

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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Re: What exactly is a wigit?

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   Hi here's how someone described it to me, hope its clear.
A widget is a small icon that you place on your home page to get the 
information you need that updates all the time. For instance, I have my 
calendar widget and my weather widget on my home screen so I can flick to 
either widget and get real time information. My weather one gives me the 
current temperature as well as the high and low. My calendar gives me my 
next event. If I need more detail, I can double tap on the widget and it 
opens the app. Very practical for things you check quite often. Note that 
not all apps yet have a widget but they will come soon. I am thinking of 
putting my Parcel widget there so I can track my parcels location in real 
time. The thing you have to remember is that adding widgets to your home 
screen will need space so they will push the apps at the bottom of your 
screen to the next page.


HTH

-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 5:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What exactly is a wigit?

Hello everyone,


So what exactly is a wigit?

Also, how well do they work with Voiceover?

And what might be some benefits of using them?


I am very curious to learn more. I don't understand them. I also don't
understand as to why now my whole main screen seems covered in them.


Any help is appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Facebook app for the iphone

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I have not found a voice that I like.

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> On Oct 28, 2020, at 1:06 AM, turab chimthanawala  wrote:
> 
> Hi Simon,
> Even I face this issue. Though not with Facebook but with whatsapp and
> at times with linkedin. I am facing this after IOS 14. I was suggested
> to change my Voiceover voice from Samantha to Alex or some other more
> stable voice, but the problem has not been resolved even after
> choosing Alex.
> 
>> On 10/28/20, 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone  wrote:
>> Hi is anybody having this trouble, whenever   a post is Being  read by
>> voiceover for the first time, do you get voiceover rereading parts of it
>> again? And what can I do about this? this started happening right after I
>> updated to 14.
>> 
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Facebook app for the iphone

['Simon Wong' via VIPhone]

Hi is anybody having this trouble, whenever   a post is Being  read by 
voiceover for the first time, do you get voiceover rereading parts of it again? 
And what can I do about this? this started happening right after I updated to 
14.

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Re: Please consider contacting Youtube to report the issues with the lates version 13.08 of their iOS app with VoiceOver

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I’m not having any difficulties either, everything seems to be working fine 
here.

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> On Mar 10, 2018, at 3:19 AM, Donna  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I am using the latest update to the YouTube app. I am not having any problems 
> with accessibility or closing videos. I am using an iPhone 7. 
> 
> Dona
>> 
>> I just checked, and the collapse video button is still there on my IPhone 6, 
>> running 11.2.6. It still is at the top left corner of my screen. I do not 
>> know the number of my You Tube version, but there is no update for it in my 
>> app store, so I guess it is the latest one. I do not know the reason for the 
>> discrepancy in our experiences. 
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2018, at 12:31 AM, Shai  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I and some others who I know have been experiencing issues with the
>> latest version of the YouTube app with VoiceOver for iOS. We have
>> noticed that while playing a video the collapse video button does not
>> work when double tapping on it and we also are unable to find a close
>> button to exit out of the recommended videos. I would like to suggest
>> that if others are experiencing the same issue that they consider
>> contacting YouTube. Feedback can be reported through the app by double
>> tapping on the send feedback button or probably reported in a feedback
>> form found online. I have already contacted YouTube about this issue
>> and I am hoping that it will be resolved soon.
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