Re: problum with my i phone 14 prow max my hapticks are working but the sounds seem to not be.

[Mich Verrier]

Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 27, 2024, at 6:34 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:hi,I had the same problem not long ago. Seems I had the mute switch set on.On Feb 27, 2024, at 3:10 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:What is the sound level under settings, sounds and haptics? Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Feb 27, 2024, at 3:04 PM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:Hi all. I have found a problem since last night with my phone. My haptucks are working but when I get a notification the sounds seem to not be. I have gone into sounds and have haptucks checked and sounds are also checked. I have tried re starting the phone and still when I get any kind of a notification instead of getting the sound with the hapticks I only getthe hapticks and not the sound for instince on what’s app it would ding and vibrate at the same time and now it is just vibrateing and vo is saying notification and who it is from but I am used to hearing the sound feeling the vibration and hearing vo saying the notification but it is only vibrateing and vo is saying the notification who it is from but there is no sound eventhough the sounds are selected under settings and sounds. I am not shurew hat’s going on. Nay ideas? Many thanks. From Mich.



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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/118366B7-3A6F-42DA-99DE-6B50F3B6AEEB%40gmail.com. yeah now that I switched the mute switch off things are working fine. From Mich




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Re: Video calling on WhatsApp with an iPhone

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Hi Marie, OK to make a phone call on WhatsApp video call open WhatsApp, and 
then along the bottom you’ll see three or four tabs on the bottom of the screen 
double tap on the tab that says chat and then swipe to the right you will find 
an edit field double tap on there and enter the information that you want and 
then when you swipe back to the left, there should be a done button and then 
when you go up to the home screen on WhatsApp, double tap on the contact and 
then you’ll see two options one that says video and one that says audio. These 
are on the top of the screen on the left-hand side if you have any more 
questions, feel free to ask.

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> On Sep 17, 2023, at 6:58 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I have never wanted to make a video call for obvious reasons. But now I want 
> to be able to make one to some sighted folks, and I would like to do a video 
> call, so I can show them stuff. I can’t figure out how to do it. I read some 
> thing from a Google search that says go to the chat screen and near the top 
> there should be a video button. I did not see that. So, does anybody know how 
> to do this? I have successfully made several audio calls to these people, but 
> I don’t know how to make a video call. The default is clearly audio. All help 
> gratefully appreciated.
> Mary 
> 
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>  hi marryOK to make a video call on WhatsApp I’m using voice over on an 
> iPhone there are tabs along the bottom of screen. One of the tabs is chat, so 
> you double tap on that you enter in who you want to chat with find the number 
> what have you and then once you do that you’ll see that on the top of the 
> screen you’ll see audio button and video button double tap on video button 
> and then the call starts. Let me know if you need me to walk you through it 
> anymore.from

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Re: iOs and Cosori air fryer

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Th vysinc app will work with Alexa from Mich 

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> On Sep 12, 2023, at 1:02 PM, Traci Duncan  wrote:
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> Hi all, I have the wifi model of Cosori air fryer. It looks like there are 2 
> apps for this device. Do you recommend Cosori's app or Vesync? I wanted to 
> connect the air fryer to Alexa. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Traci
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Re: siri sucks.

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It costs 341 from Mich

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> On Aug 29, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> What does this Hable 1 cost not that I want to use a braille keyboard and in 
> many situations I couldn't even if I wanted to because of hand injuries, but 
> if I remembe rcorrectly it is a pretty expensive device and if I have to 
> spend half as much as my iPhone costs just so I can use it effectively then 
> to me that is not attractive.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 6:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: siri sucks.
> 
> The Hable one is the best braille  keyboard around 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 5:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
> 
> One option is to not use dictation at all, and if you know braille, to get a 
> hable one bluetooth keyboard.  Another bluetooth qwerty keyboard would work 
> as well.
> 
>> On 8/28/23, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> I have found that most of the time, Siri dictation is really pretty 
>> accurate, more on the phone than on the watch. I’m using an older 
>> phone, a
>> 10 r. My problem with Siri isn’t trying to get it to do simple things 
>> like open apps etc. It simply doesn’t hear what I say and comes back 
>> with really strange stuff a lot of the time. The only thing it never 
>> screws up is Open the app store. I wonder why that might be. Smile.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:50 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Siri dictation has always been doing this although it does seem to be 
>>> somewhat  more accurate in iOS 17.
>>> 
>>> One thing Siri never seems to get right is the difference between "Flour"
>>> and "flower", I can dicate "Pleas also bring me 2 Kg of spelt flour" 
>>> and it will always put "Please bring me 2 Kg of spelt flower".
>>> 
>>> English of course is also a ridiculously difficult language when it 
>>> comes to stuff like that, I find dictation in German is almost always 
>>> 100% accurate because there aren't so many words which sound the same 
>>> but are totally different. As for the above example, "flower" in German is 
>>> "Blume"
>>> and "flour" is "Mehl", no chance to get that wrong.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2023 11:36 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: siri sucks.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When i use dictation, sometimes the wrong word is entered, but 
>>> certainly not the majority of the time.
>>> 
>>> I try to 1: be in a quiet environment, 2: speak a little more slowly 
>>> than I would ordinarily speak, 3: speak clearly, 4: Go over several 
>>> times what I want to say in my head before dictating.
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA
>>> 
>>> ——
>>> 
>>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John 
>>> Wesley
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 28, 2023, at 11:27 AM, Jenny Bomareto 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Whenever I'm dictating a text-message, e-mail, or whenever you use 
>>>> siri for dictation.  it puts whatever words it thinks should be in 
>>>> their.  I also don't have autocorrect turned on  either.  This is 
>>>> getting very irritating.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> TIA in advance for your help.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
>>>> Jenny Bomareto
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: Looking for accessible GPS App

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> On Mar 15, 2023, at 4:14 PM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I was wondering, is there an accessible GPS App that I could use with my 
> iPhone?
> 
> 
> It doesn't matter so much if it is free, or if I have to pay for it.
> 
> 
> I am looking for something that can show me what is around.
> 
> But also, a way to know where possible sidewalks are. But I am uncertain as 
> to whether or not such a thing exists.
> 
> 
> I am wanting to be able to walk to the rec center that is only about a 4th of 
> a mile from my home.
> 
> However, I don't know if this is even possible.
> 
> 
> Any thoughts, or suggestions are much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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Re: How do I delete photos, please.

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The only way to Delete photos used to go into every single photo swipe right until you see the word delete and double tap on it. I don’t think there is a way to batch delete photos. From MichSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 20, 2022, at 5:06 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:How do I delete photos? I can’t find edit or delete.  



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Re: A Confusing Situation & Question

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Hi Carla and all Carla I also have a similar situation to you when I go under sound settings I have a text tone, but when I click it under sound settings, it only vibrate doesn’t do the text tone and the vibration at the same time however, when I receive a text message, it does the vibration in the text tone. Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 11, 2022, at 1:01 PM, Carla  wrote:I have a tone for when I receive text messages.  I have it set to the Classic Duck.  It shows the duck is selected but it doesn’t always work in fact sometimes it does the one note ding sound which isn’t always easy to hear.  I talked with Apple Accessibility last night and we checked settings, focus and anything else the person I was working with could think of.  This didn’t start until after the latest update.  So my question is have any of you had this problem and if so could it be fixed?  Thanks! Carla 



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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0a2e01d8f5f7%2493903b60%24bab0b220%24%40gmail.com. hi Carla and all Carla I have a similar problem to yours but for some reason when I check my sound I have a text tone set in the text tone does work when I when I receive messages however when I don’t want to sound settings and check the text tone it’s just vibrating it’s not doing the text tone it’s very odd because I usually have it set to vibrate and do the text on at the same time and I’ve checked and I’ve checked different settings so I don’t know what’s going on in this seems to happen since the latest update as well. At least in 16. Zero




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Question how to have google maps talk when driving?

[Mich Verrier]

Sent from my iPhonehi all I am in the car with my dad we are trying to find out 
how to get google maps to give us driving directions. My dad is sighted and we 
want google maps to talk and tell us where to go. If some knows please let me 
know. Many thanks from mich

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Re: question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word soashel after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the screen.

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No I am not sharing any of these folders that’s still happening even when I 
swipe around even just an email it’s still saying social and I don’t even have 
email in my social folder. It’s like voiceover has seen the element but it’s 
seeing it everywhere. I don’t know really what’s going on I’ve tried everything 
apart from doing a hard reset of my iPhone and that’s it.from much

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 17, 2022, at 10:29 AM, Flor Lynch  wrote:
> 
> 
> Apple does this automatically, based on the content inside the folders. Thus, 
> your social media content is categorised accordingly. 
> 
> 
> 
> So, to prvent this automatic categorisation, you can rename each of the 
> originating folders and their subfolders containing social media content; 
> then move these folders into different places. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 17/07/2022 14:59, Flor Lynch wrote:
>> Are you sharing these folders, that say 'Social' after their names? 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/07/2022 14:40, Dennis Long wrote:
>>> Rename the folder.
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Delia Avina
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2022 10:12 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: question how to stop my i pad and i phone saying the word 
>>> soashel after some folders and before you flip to diffrentpages on the 
>>> screen.
>>>  
>>> Maybe turn off and on voiceover
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 13, 2022, at 9:42 AM, mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all I have a I pad forth gen. on this I pad I have a folder called 
>>> soashel. I have named that folder but now when ever I swipe to different 
>>> pages it says the word soashel before each page instead of saying page 1 
>>> page 2 etc. this is also happening on my I phone as well as some times it 
>>> is saying it before the name of different apps. I just want it to say page 
>>> 1 page 2 not soashel page 1 page 2 etc. I am wondering how I can accomplish 
>>> this? I have tried doing a 3 finger press and hold to try to re name the 
>>> folder to something elts when it is saying soashel instead of the name of 
>>> different folders I only have 1 folder called soashel but some times vo is 
>>> saying the word soashel before the word games for my games folder. I have 
>>> tried clearing the text and rrighting the word games but it is still doing 
>>> this. Since I have the same layout of folders on my I phone 8 From Mich.
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Re: I have a question that's possibly off topic regarding accessible security system

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I think the doorbell doorbell app site works good and is accessible it 
includes a door camera and the audio as well as the app as voiceover accessible 
hth from mich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 12, 2022, at 9:54 PM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> 
> All,
> My husband  and I have recently purchased our first home and I’m wondering if 
> anyone can recommend a good accessible security system?
> I was originally thinking something I can connect my Alexa or google 
> assistant too, but I may be looking for too  many things in one package.  I’m 
> looking for a security system, but also an outdoor camera and an intercom so 
> when someone rings my doorbell  I can ask who’s there before I answer the 
> door.
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> Thanks,
> Johna
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Re: new iphone SE 3rd generation

[Mich Verrier]

Is it on the 13 mini? From mich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2022, at 5:02 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> 
> As Richard said under a different subject, no LIDAR on the SE third 
> generation. I thought it was only available on the iPhone 13 Pro models but 
> Richard says it’s also available on the 12 Pro models.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> llump...@austin.rr.com
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> Hello. Does the new iphone SE support Lidr.
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RE: Food Delivery Apps

[mich verrier]

I have tried to use a app cald feastify we don’t have skype the dishes hear in 
the part of Ontario Canada that I am from. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Many of 
us
Sent: February 20, 2022 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Food Delivery Apps

 

I use an app called deliveroo!

I have also used just eat in the past!

shirley

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:33 PM

Subject: Re: Food Delivery Apps

 

If if it helps, the website is just-eat.com

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Wendy Lin mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com> >
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2022 8:31:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
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Subject: Re: Food Delivery Apps 

 

That’s awesome! I should search for it in the App Store and see if it’s 
available in Canada.





On Feb 20, 2022, at 3:26 PM, Alex Stone mailto:alexston...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Wendy, here in the UK we havan app called Just-eat which me and Angela use 
quite a lot. It’s reasonably accessable.

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

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Subject: Food Delivery Apps 

 

Hi group,

I was wondering what food delivery apps do you all use? I know Uber Eats is 
accessible. I tried Skip the Dishes recently and in terms of entering 
information like instructions on how to get to my place, the text box wouldn’t 
open when I try activating it. Also when I know I’ve turned on push 
notifications, it wouldn’t keep me notified like it does on Uber Eats, letting 
me know if my food order is being prepared, how far they are and most 
importantly, when they’re already at my door.

Wendy

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RE: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

[mich verrier]

Hi could you or some one elts who has this please do a audio demonstration of 
this? Or a review? I just saw on applevis that there has been interest on sutch 
a thing from people who have tried this. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard 
Ontario Canada.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: January 17, 2022 2:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!

It may seem different at first to be holding a braille device, but I got used 
to it quite fast.

On 1/17/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Both are Braille devices but Hable is paired through Bluetooth settings.
> Orbit needs a flat surface and cannot itself unlock iPhone in your pocket.
> Harry
>
>> On 17 Jan 2022, at 00:50, Christopher Chaltain 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I still need to go to the web site, but I'm curious how it compares 
>> to the Orbit Writer. I did see that you attach it as a Bluetooth 
>> input device and not a braille device, so that's a big difference right 
>> there.
>>
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Dennis Long
>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 1:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>
>> The rivo2 could be learned by a older person.  The rivo can be used 
>> as a phone and you can play music through it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro
>>
>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 1:54 PM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The hable one is a very simple braille keyboard.  I wouldn't bother 
>>> with that Rivo2 if you gave me one for free.  I heard a presentation 
>>> of the Rivo2 and it sounded extremely complicated.  The Hable One 
>>> isn't that complicated.  Someone who is older and knows braille 
>>> would have no trouble learning the Hable, whereas the Rivo2 would be 
>>> much more difficult.
>>>
>>>>> On 1/16/22, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>>> What is the difference between that and the Rivo 2?  Forgive my 
>>>> spelling of
>>>>
>>>> that one.
>>>>
>>>> Kay Malmquist
>>>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> The most important thing is to try and inspire people so that they 
>>>> can be great in whatever they want to do.
>>>> Kobe Bryant - 1978-2020 - Professional Basketball Player
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:39 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Using iPhone while in pocket via Hable One!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Check out their website for more details 
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fia
>>>> mh 
>>>> able.com%2Fhomedata=04%7C01%7C%7Cb699e68e91954ede7a2008d9d923a
>>>> 4a 
>>>> 3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637779569382141869%7
>>>> CU 
>>>> nknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik
>>>> 1h 
>>>> aWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000sdata=twvl2Bid9%2BH7JCSGRoIvp%2B7LHPC
>>>> QS
>>>> 0iGsV7KwL3z8i0%3Dreserved=0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 16 Jan 2022, at 14:41, GARY WILLIAMS 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   I have not heard of this keyboard. How does it work, and where 
>>>> can you
>>>>
>>>> get it?
>>>>
>>>>   Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 16, 2022, at 6:52 AM, Joshua Hendrickson 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also have a hable one.  I really like mine very much.  I've 
>>>> not had
>>>>
>>>> to many problems when writing text messages either short or longer.
>>>>
>>>> I've also had my phone in my coat pocket and used the Hable One.
>>>> I'm
>>>>
>>>> so glad here in the U.S. I was able to get my hands on one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   On 1/16/22, 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone 
>>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   I have just got a Hable One Braille keyboar

RE: Reading bar codes with iPhone 7

[mich verrier]

Hi I have a IPhone 8 and also have had trubble doing this and I laso have a
IDMate Summit and have found it is easier to read barcoads with that then it
was with the Iphone. How ever to answer your question yes a upgrade of a new
phone would have a better camra and might work better. I hope this helps.
>From Mich.

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Beverly Wieland
Sent: January 13, 2022 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Reading bar codes with iPhone 7

Greetings, everyone.
I find this list so helpful that I hope someone will have suggestions for
me.

I am totally blind and have had difficulty reading bar codes even using the
ID Mate hardware products.  But I get so much valuable information when I
can focus the reader on the product correctly.

I have an iPhone 7 with updated apps and the latest iOS (I think 15.2.1).

Can someone who is successful at this explain how to point the camera at the
product?  Do I use the front or back camera?
Has anyone had success reading bar codes on vitamin bottles or products such
as aspirin?
I have tried Supersense and Envision.  I get a series of beeps telling me
that I am getting close to the bar code, but no text is spoken.
Would a more updated phone have a better camera, nd would that help?  I am
planning to upgrade some time this year.
I will try a potato chip bag to see if this works better.

Is there a link you can point me to for further help on this?
And one more thing:
Will any program read the name of a prescription drug from the codes on the
bottle?  I have some bottles that are not marked for Script Talk or the CVS
program, and just need minimal information.

I would be grateful for any hints you might offer.
Beverly Wieland
bwiel...@udel.edu

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question after pairing the blue tooth google home with your phone can you have the audio from vo come from your phone and not the speeker?

[mich verrier]

Hi all I just tried pairing my Bluetooth from my google home mini to my
phone and vo was coming from the blue tooth speeker and not from the phone.
Is there a way where you can have the audio from vo on the phone still come
from the phone and any other audio come from the speeker? I am using a
Iphone 8. From Mich.

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RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[mich verrier]

I also agree with that as well and speeking as a Canadion yes I agree it does 
cost more hear in Canada then it does in the US. And let's also bring in to the 
situation those of us who live on fixt incomes like Ontario Disibillidey 
support and live on like my self 700 a month for paying bills etc oncemy rent 
is taken off. Yes I know that we have a lot more to live on but I am strickley 
talking about the amount in the bank that we have to play around with once the 
rent is taken off of my check every month since it is taken off automatically. 
So for instince I have never had enough to pay for a IPhone out right so I am 
stuck paying off a phone on a 2 year contract the same go's forajy other apple 
products like the apple watch for example. Shure you can get one for 0 dollars 
down but you still have to pay it off over the years. It would be nice if 
programs hear in Ontario like the assistive divices program would support the 
purchis of different apple products like the apple watch Iphone, etc. in fact I 
filld out a servay that made that idea. My point is that I agree what people 
choose or not choose to spend there oney on is there choice how ever not 
everyone has the funds to upgrade to the latest and gratest every year or what 
have you. For instince I am still using the Iphone 8 and it is still holding up 
verry well. Could I upgrade? Yes of korce I could and I might or I might just 
wate. But for instince the air pods wile I like the idea of beaing whierless 
and having bluetuth on my phone I don't lissen to music will going out for 
walks and stuff so to me the idea of just whired ear buds are just fine. How 
ever I am happy to hear that they are only 200 instead of the 700 or what I 
thought they would be. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.   

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Weitzel
Sent: January 1, 2022 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

I  agree with that, but it also depends on whether you are talking about 
technology which is what I would call essential and technology which is less 
so. I need my iPhone for many things every day so it better be in top shape, 
but while for me a set of wired Earbuds are essential, a $700 Bluetooth headset 
like the Airpods Max is luxury and before all of you south of the border inform 
me that it is only $549 or whatever it costs there, I am talking about our 
currency.
Anyways, it's like with everything, people decide what they need and what they 
want and spend their money accordingly.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: January 1, 2022 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

True, everything will be better in a year or two but then that's a year or two 
I'll be using even older technology while I keep waiting. I'm not saying people 
should never wait. It obviously depends on how long you'd be waiting and how 
unhappy you are with what you have now. I tend to keep my technology for quite 
a while, but I don't wait as long as I used to. I held on to my iPhone 4S 
forever because I kept thinking if I just wait another six months, I'll see 
what Samsung has to offer and then six months after that Apple will have some 
new iPhones out and so on. By the time I pulled the trigger I was using a 
device I was pretty unhappy with and that hadn't been getting IOS updates for a 
while.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, January 1, 2022 1:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

A statement which very rarely applies to technology because whatever passes me 
by will be better in a year or two.
A good example would be the Airpods, if I wanted to buy a set I'd much rather 
buy them now than when they first came out 4 or whatever years ago because I 
know I'd be replacing them by now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: December 31, 2021 6:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet

Those who wait for the next best thing will always be waiting while it passes 
them by.
Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Joshua Hendrickson" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2021 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including 
Airpod Max or at least not yet


>I couldn't read that article you posted.  Microsoft wanted me to sign 
>in or something.
>
> On 12/31/21, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> He

RE: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod Max or at least not yet

[mich verrier]

Would it be possible to coppy nd paste the content of the artickle? Mycrosoft 
wanted me to signe in when I whent to the link. So I couldn’t read the 
artickle. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: December 31, 2021 1:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A reason not to spend the big Bucks for Apple Airpods including Airpod 
Max or at least not yet

 

Here is an interesting article which shows how limited Bluetooth connectivity 
is and that includes the ultra high priced Airpods Max headphones:

 

 
<https://outdooressentials-my.sharepoint.com/personal/info_bvoutdoors_com/Documents/Dryshod%20November%20Order%20with%20Changes.xlsx?web=1>
 Bluetooth Is Holding Back Apple’s AirPods Ambitions

 

So, I'll continue to wait for a Sonos headset which will of course add the 
headset to my existing Sonos system via Wi-Fi and will be able to provide true 
lossless quality sound and most likely for less than what the Airpods Max dcost.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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My Neffew got Air pods for christmass and I looked it them.

[mich verrier]

Hi my neffew got Air pods I think it was the third jen they are the ones
with the magnetic case and I had a chance to look at them. I am wondering
what are the cost of air pods? Of korce my neffew beaing sighted he doesn't
use voiceover but for those who are blind and vi on this list who have air
pods how easy are they to pair and use with vo? Since after seeing them it
makes me kind of want a pair lol. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard
Ontario Canada.

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RE: Mail problem

[mich verrier]

Hi what bug are we talking about? The sheet graber I think it seems to bring up 
things like send or something I am not shure though. I am using a Iphone with 
ios 15.2 from Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of joseph 
hudson
Sent: December 19, 2021 10:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mail problem

 

Hi K, yeah that stinking bug came back in iOS 15. And as far as the sheet 
grabber, I don't know what that does.





On Dec 19, 2021, at 9:01 PM, Kay Malmquist mailto:kay.malmqu...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi all,

When I am in my email app on my iPhone 12 mini, I am having a couple of 
problems.  The first one is that draft won't go away unless I send it to myself 
just to get rid of it.  I find delete draft and that doesn't delete it.  
Minimize draft does just that and of course, cancel just puts you back to where 
you started.  Then there is this button that says sheet grabber.  What in the 
heck is this?  Then the last problem is that the keyboard is on the page and 
won't go away.  What a total mess!  Any help?  Thanks in advance.


Kay Malmquist
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RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

[mich verrier]

Hi is screen reckignishin new? Since I was looking under the settings on my 
Iphone 8 and didn’t find it. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: December 19, 2021 11:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

 

Hi, What I did was to go to settings/accessibility/voice over and scrolled to 
screen recognition. I had to download the screen recog and after it was 
installed, turned it on.  I then went to the rotor and found it waiting for me. 
I would suggest that you use it only when you need that extra help as it can 
mess somethings up.  All you have to do is turn it off in the rotor.  I hope 
this will help you. It was my problem solver thanks to this list. Andy and Leroy

I emailed Schwab Teck support to let him know so he will be able to help 
someone else with the same problem I had.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 5:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Cannot Locate "Screen Recognition"

 

Thanks for the suggestion, but that is precisely the frustrating thing about 
this; I have gone in to the rotor, rotor actions and quick settings and have 
not been able to find the "screen recognition" item.

 

When I have deployed the search procedure in settings, it comes back with 
exactly that; that the "screen recognition" item should be in rotor and quick 
settings. I have no idea what the age is going on with my iPhone.

 

  

- Sent from Ino Squire's iPhone 8 (iOS 15.2) via Google Mail

 

 

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RE: re iphone advice please

[mich verrier]

When I was at The Seeing Eye erlier this year a class mate of mine had a phone 
with no home butten and I found it a bit confusing since I wasn't shure what 
jester was used to bring up the screen but I am shure thatonce I replacemy 8 I 
will have to deal with this as well. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: December 9, 2021 11:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

The SE 2020 is the last phone with a home button to this point.

All the X, 11, 12, and 13 models have no home button.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mo
Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 8:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

Hi Richard and Wayne,
Sorry I seem to have missed Wayne's response.
This is most useful and yes, ideally I think they would prefer to have a home 
button as other models they have used have had this.
Out of these three which has the home button please?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 09 December 2021 14:54
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Subject: RE: re iphone advice please

One non-Accessibility relared point, the SE has the same chip as the 11, so its 
hardware is over 1 year newer than the XR model.  So for the long run, the SE 
has a chance of being supported longer; otherwise, accessibility is really the 
same in all iPhone models.
The difference is, as Wayne pointed out, does the person require the home 
button?

 



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
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Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello. Basically, do you want a home button or not. The SE 2020 has a home 
button, which many blind folk consider to be more accessible.
However, the newer phones after the 10 series, though they don't have home 
buttons, they are just as accessible. Basically, you slide a finger up from the 
bottom or down from the top. Based on the vibrations you feel and noises you 
hear, you can access the home screen, app switcher, notification or control 
centers. I've been using this newer style since the XR. Though there was an 
initial adjustment period, it did not take me long to get the hang of the new 
way. Now, I pick up my 2020 SE for work and find myself wanting to use the same 
gestures on it that I use on my personal iPhone 11. One other thing; though the 
SE 2020 can do a lot, there may be some features of iOS that either don't work 
as well or at all on the SE which do work or are smoother on the phones without 
a home button.

Respectfully,
Wayne Merritt

On 12/9/21, Mo  wrote:
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>
> I have recently been asked for advice re accessibility of the iphone 
> xs-xr and se 2020.
>
> How do the features and accessibility work?
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> Useability etc.
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> Would be most grateful for any guidance from you guys.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Mo.
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RE: how accessible is the kindle app with voice over, and how do I start to use it

[mich verrier]

Hi also on the topic of kindle I think there used to be a list for blind kindle 
users I think it was vikindle@google groups.com or something like that. From 
Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: November 18, 2021 10:14 AM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: how accessible is the kindle app with voice over, and how do I 
start to use it

Hi Joshua,

The Kindle app is very accessible. Usually, you double-tap a book title once to 
download the book and a second time to open it. Then flicking down with two 
fingers reads the text, and it scrolls automatically. If you're hearing items 
like Contents, Add Bookmark, and Recommended Books, it sounds like you're in 
the menu for a book. In that case, the top item on the menu says, "Book actions 
menu, exit." Double-tap it to exit the menu and go into your book. When you 
want to do something other than read straight through your book, such as choose 
a different chapter from the table of contents or set a bookmark, double-tap 
anywhere on the screen, and the book's menu will open. The second option on the 
menu, Close book, closes the book and takes you to the list of your books.

Best,
Anna


> On Nov 18, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
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> Hello to all.  I just heard about a book that I wanted to read, and it 
> was only available via amazon as a kindle book.  I purchased the book 
> and I had to get the kindle app on my iPhone in order to try and read 
> the book.  I installed the app, and I chose the book I wanted to read 
> after logging into the kindle app.  I'm kind of stuck from there.  I 
> just hear voice over read a bunch of stuff like contents and a bunch 
> of chapter names.  What do I do from here.  If I try and swipe on the 
> screen like to the wright or left, my iPhone does nothing.  It makes 
> this kind of bonk sound and nothing.
> Joshua Hendrickson
> 
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RE: the iPhone 13 pro max

[mich verrier]

I am glad you posted this to me as some one who has a Iphone 8 and am thinking 
of upgrading how ever I am not shure when as I have said before I like the sise 
of the phone not in gigs all thoughthat is important but how the hone fits in 
my hand is also important to me. I like to be able to hold the phone in one 
hand I don’t like the larger phones that you have to hold with 2 hands. Just my 
thoughts. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: November 15, 2021 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the iPhone 13 pro max

 

Simon, those are the screen size measured diagonally, a difference of 0.2 
inches which is less than a quarter of an inch and I personally don't see how 
that would affect a blind person.

 

Just to add to my previousemail with the exact comparison between Esther's 7 
Plus and the 13/13 Pro and 13 Pro Max, here are the actual physical dimensions 
of the iPhone 11 Pro Max which I believe you had:

 

158 x 77.8 x 8.1 mm 

6.22 x 3.06 x 0.32 inches

 

That is basically exactly the same as an old Plus phone like the 7 Plus or 8 
Plus, width is the same exactly, height is 6.22 inches for the 11 Pro Max and 
6.23 inches for the 7 Plus so a difference of 0.01 inches, once again so small 
you can notice if you put one phone on top of the other, but holding them it's 
more the width you would notice and that is the same.

Comparing a 11 Pro Max to a 13 Pro Max the width once again is the same and the 
height is now 0.1 inches less on the 11 Pro Max (6.23 vs 6.33) in millimeter 
that is 2.8mm and 3mm is an eight of an inch so once again extremely small.

The weight of the 11 Pro Max is 12 grams less, a fair bit less than half an 
ounce.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: November 14, 2021 11:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: the iPhone 13 pro max

 

And the 13 pro max and 11 pro max are slightly different agin 

The 11 pro max is 6.5 inchs,

The 13 and 12 pro max’s are 6.7 inchs 

 And it’s actually quite a bit difference in size 

 

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Sent: Monday, 15 November 2021 3:49 pm
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Subject: RE: the iPhone 13 pro max

 

Hi,

 

The XR I believe is 6.1 and the maxes are 6.7. The only difference between the 
12 pro max and the 13 pro max is that the buttons are placed differently. Other 
than that, they are both the same size, by quite a bit bigger than an XR.

 

Hope this helps,

Jenn

 

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Subject: the iPhone 13 pro max

 

Hi I have the 10 r phone currently.

Now if I was to upgrade to the 13 pro max what would I be gaining and how big 
would the 13 pro max be compared to the 10 r that I have now?

Also would I have more batter life with the 13 pro max then with my 10 r if by 
how much?

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RE: apple watch

[mich verrier]

Hello I think it is 3 taps on the crown the only butten on the side of the 
watch. How ever not having oaned a apple watch I am just guessing maybe others 
know and I will let those others chime in. from Mich.

 

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Subject: Re: apple watch

 

Hello,

My husband plans to get an Apple Watch. How do you start VO on this as a blind 
person? 

On 11/9/2021 8:45 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

A two finger double tap will answer a call on the watch. 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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please could someone remind me how to answer a call on an se apple watch.  
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what's the diffrence between photos and live photos?

[mich verrier]

Hi all the question about the person taking a pick of there passport page
makes me wonder what's the difference between taking a photo and a live
photo? Since I have like 544 photos I know I need to really cleen it up on
my phone and some of them are just photos and others are live photos and I
am wondering about the difference. Also labeling photos has always been a
bit of a challinge I know there is a way to do it and I have tried clicking
on the 3 finger triple tap hearing the 3 toans and then labeling the
elliment but I have found that when I go back into the photos or camra wrole
it doesn't always add a description of what the photo is. Since not all of
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RE: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

[mich verrier]

It was just something that I turned on and never turned off. I didn’t know 
about it decreacing the battery life. I will go and turn it off if I can find 
out how. From Mich.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: November 3, 2021 1:04 AM
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Subject: RE: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

 

Mich, why do you even use screentime? It just decreases your battery life and 
unless you have to set yourself limits I don't see much of a reason for it.

 

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Subject: RE: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

 

Hi all I had to call apple accessibillidey I had don’t deleate apps turned on 
under genral screen time settings once I turned that off I was able to go in 
and delate the apps. From Mich.

 

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Subject: Re: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

 

Hi Mitch,

 

Once you turn on Edit mode, delete is available. Also, when you choose Remove 
for an app on a screen other than App Library, you have the choices to remove 
it from your home screen or delete it completely.

 

HTH,

Anna

 

 

On Nov 2, 2021, at 4:58 PM, mich verrier mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi all. I am running ios 15.1 and I am wondering how do I deleate apps from the 
app library? I have removed them from my home screen but I want to remove them 
off of my phone permintley. Some of the apps that I want to remove are west 
minister chimes and wize. I have tried to dubble tap on the icons and all I get 
when I swipe up is edit and not deleate. If some one knows how to do this using 
vo that would be helpful. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

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RE: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

[mich verrier]

Hi all I had to call apple accessibillidey I had don’t deleate apps turned on 
under genral screen time settings once I turned that off I was able to go in 
and delate the apps. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: November 2, 2021 6:11 PM
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Subject: Re: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

 

Hi Mitch,

 

Once you turn on Edit mode, delete is available. Also, when you choose Remove 
for an app on a screen other than App Library, you have the choices to remove 
it from your home screen or delete it completely.

 

HTH,

Anna

 





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Hi all. I am running ios 15.1 and I am wondering how do I deleate apps from the 
app library? I have removed them from my home screen but I want to remove them 
off of my phone permintley. Some of the apps that I want to remove are west 
minister chimes and wize. I have tried to dubble tap on the icons and all I get 
when I swipe up is edit and not deleate. If some one knows how to do this using 
vo that would be helpful. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

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Re: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi again Anna and all. I am trying to remove apps from the App Library I’m 
using an iPhone 8 running iOS 15.1 when I double tap so these are third-party 
apps by the way they’re trying to remove one is wise and another is the 
Westminster Chimes so if you could please tell me how to remove them that would 
be great thank you very much from michWhen I double tap on the app and lift my 
finger when I feel the haptic all I get is share app and remove from home 
screen and that’s it there’s no delete feature adults and see I when I double 
tap on the app and lift my finger when I feel the haptic I get to share app and 
remove from home screen and that’s it there’s no delete feature I don’t see and 
when I do find a delete feature by using the rotor and switching up to edit all 
I get is the thing about when we get from the home screen will not remove it 
from the Apple library and blow my block

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 2, 2021, at 6:17 PM, mich verrier  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Anna I have tried to remove a app and I got into my app library switched 
> to actions swiped up to edit and all I see is stop editing apps drag app 
> there is no deleate. What am I doing wrong? From Mich.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
> Dresner
> Sent: November 2, 2021 6:11 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?
>  
> Hi Mitch,
>  
> Once you turn on Edit mode, delete is available. Also, when you choose Remove 
> for an app on a screen other than App Library, you have the choices to remove 
> it from your home screen or delete it completely.
>  
> HTH,
> Anna
>  
> 
> 
> On Nov 2, 2021, at 4:58 PM, mich verrier  wrote:
>  
> Hi all. I am running ios 15.1 and I am wondering how do I deleate apps from 
> the app library? I have removed them from my home screen but I want to remove 
> them off of my phone permintley. Some of the apps that I want to remove are 
> west minister chimes and wize. I have tried to dubble tap on the icons and 
> all I get when I swipe up is edit and not deleate. If some one knows how to 
> do this using vo that would be helpful. Many thanks. From Mich.
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RE: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

[mich verrier]

Hi Anna I have tried to remove a app and I got into my app library switched to 
actions swiped up to edit and all I see is stop editing apps drag app there is 
no deleate. What am I doing wrong? From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: November 2, 2021 6:11 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

 

Hi Mitch,

 

Once you turn on Edit mode, delete is available. Also, when you choose Remove 
for an app on a screen other than App Library, you have the choices to remove 
it from your home screen or delete it completely.

 

HTH,

Anna

 





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Hi all. I am running ios 15.1 and I am wondering how do I deleate apps from the 
app library? I have removed them from my home screen but I want to remove them 
off of my phone permintley. Some of the apps that I want to remove are west 
minister chimes and wize. I have tried to dubble tap on the icons and all I get 
when I swipe up is edit and not deleate. If some one knows how to do this using 
vo that would be helpful. Many thanks. From Mich.

 

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question how to remove apps from the apps libary?

[mich verrier]

Hi all. I am running ios 15.1 and I am wondering how do I deleate apps from
the app library? I have removed them from my home screen but I want to
remove them off of my phone permintley. Some of the apps that I want to
remove are west minister chimes and wize. I have tried to dubble tap on the
icons and all I get when I swipe up is edit and not deleate. If some one
knows how to do this using vo that would be helpful. Many thanks. From Mich.

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RE: Body Cam suggestions?

[mich verrier]

Hi Andy you could also get a cam to place not on your boddy but to place on the 
dog's harnus. The go pro is one that comes to mind that would work for this. I 
know a few blind people who have dun this on there dogs and they say that it 
works fine. From Mich.

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Subject: Body Cam suggestions?

Hello All, not sure if this is appropriate for this list but, just delete if 
not.
I am having some issues with my guide that could be looked with a body cam.
I don't have someone able to follow me most times so, if I got and invested in 
a body cam, I could send the clip via text or email so someone could look at it 
and tell me if something was in the way or just the dog being at fault. Does 
anyone know of a good body cam that has good picture and reliable? I would 
place it around my belt area so it could pick up the dog and what is coming up 
in front of us.  Thanks so much for reading this and if not appropriate here, 
suggest another list.  Andy and Leroy

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Re: Looking for an hourly chime app

[Mich Verrier]

I’m also looking for an app that will do this in the Canadian App Store I had 
the same app in my app completely stopped working since the update of iOS 15 
from mich

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> Since the most recent IOS my hourly chime stopped working.  I’ve looked at 
> several apps in the App Store but they are more cumbersome than I need.  I’m 
> looking for an app that will play a sound on the hour every day but not in 
> the middle of the night.  The chime I used had the ability for me to choose 
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> As always, thank you!
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RE: Adding COVID-19 vaccination passport to Apple Wallet in iOS 15.1

[mich verrier]

Hi I live in Ontario and can’t seem to find a way to get my covid id into my 
wallit on apple I phone 8. I tried using ira to take a pick of the papor and 
there was no qr coad on it. I also tried to upload the pdf files of each of my 
vaxseen sertiffickits that I have on my phone and those didn’t work eather even 
though there was a qr coad on at least one of those as well as the papor option 
one of them had a qr coad. Does any one have any ideas how elts I can do this? 
Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

 

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Weitzel
Sent: October 28, 2021 3:22 PM
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Subject: Adding COVID-19 vaccination passport to Apple Wallet in iOS 15.1

 

Hello Fazil,

 

I started a new thread here because this has nothing to do with reading 
character by character.

 

No, you can't upload the file as far as I know, the QR code on the card has to 
be scanned and at least I found the only way to do this is to display the card 
on a second screen or to have a print out.

When I did mine I displayed it on my laptop screen and used the Code Scanner 
option, when I then added my wife's on her phone I decided to try a different 
approach and I printed out her vaccine passport and used the camera app.

 

In  my opinion using Code Scanner is easier because it captures the code 
automatically as soon as it sees it whereas with the camera app Voiceover told 
me a QR code was present, but I then realized after nothing happened that there 
was a button which I think was labelled "Capture QR Code" and I had to tap 
that. But once I did it also worked.

 

If you want to use Code Scanner this is not an app per say, you have to access 
it via the Control Centre similar to how you access the Flashlight which is 
also not an app but a feature.

This means you may have to add it to the Control Panel because I can't remember 
if it is there by default. I would first bring up Control Centre and check, if 
it is not there go to Settings > Control Centre, look for it under the "More 
Controls" heading and then double tap on where it says "Insert Code Scanner".

 

Regardless whether you use Code Scanner or the Camera app, once the QR code is 
recognized a message pops up asking if you want to add the card to Apple Wallet 
and Health, just tap Add and you are done; it's super simple.

 

Keep in mind that here in Canada this works with vaccination passports from BC 
and a few other provinces whose cards meet the standard which Apple required 
for this.

If you are in Ontario and a province where this is not the case it won't work, 
but for Ontario there is a third-party work-around, I had posted the link for 
that in the article from iPhoneInCanada where I first read that this should be 
easy to do if you are in British Columbia.

 

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RE: Soundbar app accessibility

[mich verrier]

Hi I also would like to know this as well. Also does a sound bar play from your 
tv? And can you knotice when you are watching tv that the sound is coming from 
the soundbar? Also what is the cost of these? From Mich.

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Wollner
Sent: October 26, 2021 9:20 AM
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Subject: RE: Soundbar app accessibility

Hi what are the differences between the sonos beam and the arc?
And what does one do over the other?

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Weitzel
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Subject: RE: Soundbar app accessibility

You should look at the Sonos Beam or, if the price is OK for you, the Sonos Arc.
Just go to www.Sonos.com and you can check it there, both the Beam and Arc are 
soundbars, but Sono sis also a lot more as you can use the app to play just 
about anything on earth. I have never seen another company which supports as 
many music services both paid and free ones and the Sonos app is extremely 
accessible and the sound quality of all their speakers is fantastic. Bot the 
Beam and Arc also support Amazon Alexa and Google Assistant although you still 
can't have both digital assistants active at the same time.
Lastly, if you invest in a Sonos Beam or Arc and you later on want to add a set 
of Sonos One or other speakers in a different room you can always add to your 
Sonos system which will then allow you to play music in different rooms, you 
can group speakers and play the same or you can play different things in 
different rooms.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Melanie 
Clouser
Sent: October 25, 2021 10:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Soundbar app accessibility

Hello.

I'm in the market for a soundbar. Can anyone tell me if the Bose app is 
accessible? I downloaded the app to test it out but it wants me to register 
with my device ... and I haven't yet bought a soundbar. I wanted to test out 
different apps before settling on a device. 


Melanie

 

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RE: Vaxination Card In Apple Wallet in Canada?

[mich verrier]

Hi I would like to know if you are able to do this and how you can do this 
using voiceover. I have the papor cards and would like to know how to do this 
please. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CrazyEyez
Sent: October 25, 2021 3:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Vaxination Card In Apple Wallet in Canada?

 

The ontario website says you can put your vaccination certificate in health on 
iPhone running IOS 15 or later.

I can try with a family member's phone and let you know how hard it is to set 
up.

Of course if you don't live in Ontario, you'll have to check with your province.

Sent from my iPhone





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Hi, Group.

iOS15.1 says that vaxination card can be kept in Apple Wallet. Can Canadians do 
that too?

Thanks!

Thanks!

 

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Re: wallet app crashes

[Mich Verrier]

And how do you get to the exsplore by touch  my touch option question is it 
somewhere in the menus question so much for nation would be appreciated or do 
you mean just a swipe around with your finger until you land on the card? Many 
thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Yes, this is a known issue with the Wallet app and Voiceover. The current 
> workaround is to use explore by touch and to drag your finger to the card you 
> want to open instead of flicking to it. After you locate it with explore by 
> touch double tap on the card you want to view and once the card details are 
> open you can resume flicking with the normal Voiceover gestures.
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Ed Worrell
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2021, at 5:21 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Yep known issue.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Albert Brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2021 4:43 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: wallet app crashes
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Maybe this has already Been Discussed.
>> When I open the wallet app it keeps crashes, it seemed it happened when I 
>> updated my iPhone 12.
>> I would be very grateful For your help.
>> 
>> 
>> ALBERT
>> 
>> JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2021.2107.12
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Re: Sheet Grabber?

[Mich Verrier]

I also would like to know what the she crab ass I’ve noticed it when I’m trying 
to reply to messages or even compose a evenI also would like to know what the 
she crab ass I’ve noticed it when I’m trying to reply to messages or you can 
even compose a message or email many things I’ve noticed it since the upgrade 
to iOS 15 from mich

Sent from my iPhone

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> When I open various shared notes, I keep hearing VoiceOver say sheet grabber 
> and I can do nothing with the note until that somehow disappears. Does 
> anybody know what this sheet grabber is?
> Thanks
> Harry
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RE: No new iPhone yet

[Mich Verrier]

I remember that reporter who interviewd that guy who got I think it was the I 
phone 11 I thinkit was then he dropt it after he got it and it shadderd on 
camra lol. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 25, 2021 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

And I remember the good old days 10 years ago when the release date of new 
iPhones was announced during the Apple Event and then people would start lining 
up in front of all the Apple Stores starting at midnight and by morning in some 
places the line up would stretch around the block! How things change, there are 
still fans who order the minute the new phones go up online or probably those 
who are at the store when they open to get one, but it's a far cry from what it 
used to be which is of course a good thing because at times it seemed that 
getting a new iPhone was absolutely the most important, life-altering event 
with reporters interviewing those in line as if it really made a difference.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

I found out the plan was the next “business day” by calling and getting a call 
back 32 minutes later from a human since the automated BS system couldn’t 
answer my question.

I could have it sent to a depot but that would be Tuesday so Monday will due 
just fine.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: No new iPhone yet

 

Here it would be dropped off at a local depot where you can then go with your 
card and Id to pick it up.

Usually you can also contact UPS to make arrangements; I am surprised there are 
no further instructions.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 25, 2021 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: No new iPhone yet

 

I had mentioned that I was going to get my new iPhone 13 pro yesterday … well, 
I missed the UPS person, so what I got was a sticky note on the door, with 
nothing marked on it … which I found out later means, we will try two more 
times to deliver then likely will send it back … and the next time is Monday.

So, guess who is going to basically hang by the front door on Monday.

 

It is all my fault of course.  I actually mean that, I’m not being sarcastic.  
They are not going to leave that expensive of an item on the porch, especially 
with all the package thieves running around and they don’t want to be liable.

 

O well, patience is a virtue, right?

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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RE: Wallet app with IOS 15

[Mich Verrier]

Hi if thre is then I don’t know it. right now th wallit seems to crash since it 
is a bug. Hear’s hopeing it get’s fixt in a update. From Mich.

 

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Subject: Wallet app with IOS 15

 

I know this was discussed yesterday.  Is there another way to get into the 
wallet app using IOS 15?

  

 

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RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

[Mich Verrier]

Can some one explaine how to get to those options in facetime? From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 22, 2021 3:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

Can anybody explain what the different mike options in facetime mean standard 
v. voice isolation v. full spectrum? 

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brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

Thanks so much will be so glad to get rid of this for now. It just doesn't 
sound all that great to me. Also the command is one finger flick down from the 
top.

On 9/22/21, Mich Verrier  wrote:
> Hi what's the command to get into controle senter? From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Star Gazer
> Sent: September 22, 2021 3:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15
>
> Perfect, Gordon thank you
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15
>
> I'll show you how to get your normal face time sound back. When 15 
> launched wide spectrum audio mode is active by default. While in a 
> face time call, open control center and at the top of the screen 
> you'll see something about the mic. Double tap there and you'll be 
> presented with two options, voice isolation and wide spectrum audio. 
> This is under the main control center and not the face time options. 
> It would be much more convenient if Apple had placed those options in the 
> face time options.
> On 9/22/2021 1:46 PM, lenron brown wrote:
>> Ah so it's not just me. Sometimes yes the sound is weird and not in a 
>> good way. Also I guess I also seem to sound strange unless I put in 
>> my Airpods.
>>
>> On 9/22/21, Cris Ali  wrote:
>>> Hello folks.
>>> Have any of you noticed a major change in the way FaceTime sounds 
>>> after updating to iOS 15? The voice of the other persons on the 
>>> other side sounds as if they are talking inside a very large empty 
>>> hall. I also sound to them as if I am talking inside a large empty 
>>> room after I updated to fifteen, although they are still using 14.8. 
>>> Is there a setting I must change to go back to the lovely normal 
>>> sound of the familiar FaceTime.
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

[Mich Verrier]

Hi what's the command to get into controle senter? From Mich.

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Gazer
Sent: September 22, 2021 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: FaceTime sound is horrible on iOS 15

Perfect, Gordon thank you 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I'll show you how to get your normal face time sound back. When 15 launched 
wide spectrum audio mode is active by default. While in a face time call, open 
control center and at the top of the screen you'll see something about the mic. 
Double tap there and you'll be presented with two options, voice isolation and 
wide spectrum audio. This is under the main control center and not the face 
time options. It would be much more convenient if Apple had placed those 
options in the face time options.
On 9/22/2021 1:46 PM, lenron brown wrote:
> Ah so it's not just me. Sometimes yes the sound is weird and not in a 
> good way. Also I guess I also seem to sound strange unless I put in my 
> Airpods.
>
> On 9/22/21, Cris Ali  wrote:
>> Hello folks.
>> Have any of you noticed a major change in the way FaceTime sounds 
>> after updating to iOS 15? The voice of the other persons on the other 
>> side sounds as if they are talking inside a very large empty hall. I 
>> also sound to them as if I am talking inside a large empty room after 
>> I updated to fifteen, although they are still using 14.8. Is there a 
>> setting I must change to go back to the lovely normal sound of the familiar 
>> FaceTime.
>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Hi did they brake the hourley chimes in ios 15?

[Mich Verrier]

Well it has to do with the app that I was using witch worked up until ios 15 
came out and since updateing it has stopt. From Mich.

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Parfitt
Sent: September 22, 2021 11:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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You can get your Apple Watch to chime periodically every quarter of an hour, 
half hour and hourly via the Watch App, Accessibility and Chimes.  I see no 
reason why a similar facility cannot be added to iOS.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 22 Sep 2021, at 16:10, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Mich, how is it that you get your clock on your phone to chime on the hour? 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mich Verrier
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 7:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Hi did they brake the hourley chimes in ios 15?
> 
> Hi I am just wondering if they broke the hourly chimes in ios 15? I have my 
> sounds set to on the banners and badges set to banners and sounds. I just am 
> wondering what I have to do to hear the coocoo sound at the top of every 
> hour? When I dubble tap on the banners and sounds option I get alow 
> notifications and that is on then swipeing right it shows alerts alow on lock 
> screen butten alowd on notification senter it says this is selected selected 
> alow as bannerbanner stile is set to temparey. Then sounds is on. From Mich.  
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RE: Hi did they brake the hourley chimes in ios 15?

[Mich Verrier]

I am using the hourly chimes app. It seems that they did brake that since I am 
not getting the coocoo sound at the top and boddem of the hour. From Mich.

 

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Sent: September 22, 2021 8:43 AM
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What app are you using? to give it a try, while if they fix the "Talkin Clock2" 
one. I miss the hourly chimes!

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 22 sep 2021, a la(s) 6:57 a.m., Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > escribió:

 i think the apps that use any kind of hourly chime need to adjust their app. 

The Big Ben app I occasionally turn on wasn't working during the beta.

I wrote the developer.

He found he needed to change something because of a new feature or something 
... he made the change, released the update, and it works fine now.

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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When I dubble tap on the banners and sounds option I get alow notifications and 
that is on then swipeing right it shows alerts alow on lock screen butten alowd 
on notification senter it says this is selected selected alow as bannerbanner 
stile is set to temparey. Then sounds is on. From Mich.  

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Hi did they brake the hourley chimes in ios 15?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I am just wondering if they broke the hourly chimes in ios 15? I have my
sounds set to on the banners and badges set to banners and sounds. I just am
wondering what I have to do to hear the coocoo sound at the top of every
hour? When I dubble tap on the banners and sounds option I get alow
notifications and that is on then swipeing right it shows alerts alow on
lock screen butten alowd on notification senter it says this is selected
selected alow as bannerbanner stile is set to temparey. Then sounds is on.
>From Mich.  

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RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

[Mich Verrier]

Well it might be I am using a iPhone 8 after all. From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Then I wonder if it is device specific, I can swipe left and right to my 
heart's content through all the cards in my wallet app and I have about 6 or 7 
in there.

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Verrier
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

When I oapin the wallit app and try swipeing right it closes the app and 
crashiss it. I can't swipe left or anything with out it crashing. I know it is 
a bug and hear's hopeing that it will be fixt in a later update. From Mich.

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Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
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Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no issues, I 
was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I noticed I had some 
expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I opened them and after tapping 
"More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 and I can't 
remember if they said it was the share sheet where some people had issues on 
certain devices?
Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add" and 
I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I was able to 
set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I rarely need an alarm 
because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly ever go into the Clock app to 
set it anyways because SIRI is so good at it and you can even ask SIRI what 
alarms you have and it will list them, you can tell SIRI if you want to delete 
a particular alarm or change it, much faster and easier.
As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that with the 
app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the right because 
Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but swiping left once and back to 
the right really is just a small inconvenience.

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davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Hello 

Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try to 
share something with the share sheet. 

I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say ios11 
and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I told if 
fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then go go go an 
dupdate.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Star Gazer
Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Env

RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

[Mich Verrier]

When I oapin the wallit app and try swipeing right it closes the app and 
crashiss it. I can't swipe left or anything with out it crashing. I know it is 
a bug and hear's hopeing that it will be fixt in a later update. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 21, 2021 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I read this on Applevis, but I just went to the Wallet app and had no issues, I 
was able to swipe left through my cards and back right, I noticed I had some 
expired Air Canada boarding passes in there so I opened them and after tapping 
"More" I could tap on "Remove Pass" as always.
I also have used the share sheet without issues I have an iPhone 11 and I can't 
remember if they said it was the share sheet where some people had issues on 
certain devices?
Lastly, I opened the clock app and went to the Alarm tab, I tapped on "Add" and 
I had the pickers for hours, minutes and AM/PM just as always, I was able to 
set the time and save the alarm. The thing is that I rarely need an alarm 
because I wake up on myown, but if I do I hardly ever go into the Clock app to 
set it anyways because SIRI is so good at it and you can even ask SIRI what 
alarms you have and it will list them, you can tell SIRI if you want to delete 
a particular alarm or change it, much faster and easier.
As I said, so far I have no issues I am worried about, there is that with the 
app switcher where I may have to swipe left and back to the right because 
Voiceover may not tell me the name of an app, but swiping left once and back to 
the right really is just a small inconvenience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: September 21, 2021 11:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Hello 

Then play around in the clock app, see your cards in the wallet app or try to 
share something with the share sheet. 

I am gladd toot hat what I see now, the ios is less buggy than let's say ios11 
and the initial ios13 but there are still some nasty glidges but as I told if 
fone decides these well known glidges are not that important, then go go go an 
dupdate.

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Star Gazer
Verzonden: dinsdag 21 september 2021 17:21
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

I haven't updated yet. When I do, how do I get to the focused notifications?  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS15 Initial impressions

Personally I don't find there is much of a difference on my iPhone 11 in terms 
of speed and responsiveness. I also haven't come across any serious issues.
I have only used SIRI a little since yesterday asking to call somebody and 
dictating a few short messages, but so far it may just be a little better which 
one would hope now that all SIRI requests are handled on device and not in the 
cloud any more. I really hope SIRI saying "Working on that" or "Still working 
on that" will not be an issue any more because lately that happened too often 
for my liking. If I ask SIRI to call one of my contacts I want this to happen 
now and not 10 seconds later.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: September 21, 2021 4:53 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: IOS15 Initial impressions

All I can say is wow! I decided to take the plunge this morning and update my 
device (an Se2020) thanks to a friend telling me via Twitter last night that on 
his SE2020, iOS15 runs great! And it does! The speed of the phone is as fast as 
if I hadn’t updated I say this because generally when you update, the IPHone 
tends to slow down a bit?
The download took itself took about 40/45 minutes; the installation and restart 
about 8 minutes.and when the phone restarted, and after setting up stuff Apple 
asks for (the code etc), away I plunged! So far I haven’t gone into the Focus 
feature (which I’m really looking forward to setting it up and giving it a try).
So far, it was more the nerves than anything! I’ll continue reporting.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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RE: I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found one bug so far the one with the wallott.

[Mich Verrier]

Hi yes I ment ios 15. From Mich.

 

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Sent: September 21, 2021 2:30 PM
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found one bug so far the one with the wallott.

 

You say you updated to iOS 14, do you mean iOS 15 or did you only just now 
update to 14 when iOS 15 was just released?

I assume by "woolett" you mean the Wallet? 

 

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Subject: I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found 
one bug so far the one with the wallott.

 

Hi all I updated my iPhone 8 and iPad to ios 14 and only found one bug so far 
the one about the wollett and it does crash when you go into it but apart from 
that the shair feture seems to be working etc. from Mich.

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I just updated to ios 15 on my iPhone 8 and iPad minni and only found one bug so far the one with the wallott.

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I updated my iPhone 8 and iPad to ios 14 and only found one bug so
far the one about the wollett and it does crash when you go into it but
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putting a pdf file on your phone and beaing able to shair it with some one? how would I do this?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all. I am wondering how would I put a pdf file on to my iPhone 8 and be
able to shair it with some one? Many thanks. From Mich.

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RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all are there any thermis stats that are accessible that work with a bace 
board heating system? I am renting my apt and my thermis stat is accessible it 
is one of the ones with the notch in the dyal but I just thought I would ask. I 
did years ago buy a talking thermis stat that is no longer beaing made but it 
wouldn’t work since it is a bace board heating system. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: September 20, 2021 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

One that works well with Alexa is the Ecobee.  I don't have one myself, but I 
know several people who have and like it.

 

Andy

 

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From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:49 AM

Subject: RE: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

Check to see what thermostats the installer carries that work with the Total 
Connect comfort app.  Certainly many of the newer Honeywell thermostats will, 
but I know other brands also work with it.

You should be able to find out quickly if they work with Echo devices by 
opening the add device and click on thermostats, and I think it offers a list 
of potential thermostats.  I can check after a while, but wanted to get this 
sent since you are on a tight time frame.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – 
Jane Wagner

 

My Web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: e...@groups.io <mailto:e...@groups.io> 
Subject: iPhone accessible thermostat preferably with Echo capability?

 

Hi List,

 

Unfortunately, I’m having to replace my central heating and air conditioning 
systems. I don’t have the specific manufacturer make and model of the system 
I’ve chosen but it is made by Trane. Since a new thermostat is required with 
the new system, it makes sense to get one that is accessible with my iPhone and 
also works with my Amazon Echo so that the installers of the new system can 
install it at the same time. I’m dealing with a tight timeframe since the 
installation process starts tomorrow.

 

I know this topic has come up repeatedly but I’m hoping someone would not mind 
reposting their recommendation for accessible thermostats. Any comments on 
which systems are required to work with a particular accessible thermostat are 
also needed.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if any of the bugs will effect sighted people?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi ok many thanks for all of that. My folks are each in there 60’s and they 
don’t really lissen to podcasts and stuff they do have there iPhones set to 
update audomitickley. Though. And they are not into bata programs or anything 
like that. from Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: September 20, 2021 2:00 PM
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Subject: RE: question about updating the iPhone if you are sighted? and if any 
of the bugs will effect sighted people?

 

What Kelly said about the advice given by Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast for 
the last 10 years is a good strategy if you are somebody who wants to play it 
safe. If you are really into the latest and sometimes not greatest then chances 
are you would have had the iOS 15 Public Beta installed for the last 2 month 
otherwise what harm is there in waiting at least a few days or a week to see 
what people report. If you are your family's technical resource and advisor 
listen to Rob's Podcast and read what is published on Mac Rumors, 9to5Mac, Tech 
Radar, Engadget and other credible tech websites and you'll be well informed.

 

By the way, in your subject line you wrote "i phone" all lower case and as two 
words, the correct way is "iPhone", which is a lower case "i" and then "Phone" 
with an upper case "P" and all in one word. 

 

 

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the bugs will efect sighted people?

 

Hi all I realise that this is a list for blind people or vi people but I am 
wondering about updateing the phone if you are sighted? What I am wondering 
about is not to update the phone or how to do it since I know that but if any 
of the bugs will ifect sighted people who don’t use voice over? The reason why 
I am asking is because I am my folks and other members of my family tech guy 
and help them with tech and I told them about the update to ios 15 but then I 
thought that most of the bugs would be infecting people who use voice over and 
that got me wondering about fully sighted people and so I thought I would ask 
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question about updateing the i phone if you are sighted? and if any of the bugs will efect sighted people?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I realise that this is a list for blind people or vi people but I am
wondering about updateing the phone if you are sighted? What I am wondering
about is not to update the phone or how to do it since I know that but if
any of the bugs will ifect sighted people who don't use voice over? The
reason why I am asking is because I am my folks and other members of my
family tech guy and help them with tech and I told them about the update to
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RE: How can I turn off the curtain?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi a 3 finger triple tap will turn off the curton. Hth. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: September 17, 2021 11:17 AM
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Subject: How can I turn off the curtain?

 

Hello,

 

My iPhone 6S has the curtain on, and I don’t remember how to turn it off.

4 fingers 4 taps? I tried this, but it didn’t work out.

 

Rena

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now that the apple event is finnished what about those of us who still are running the older phones? I am running the i phone 8.

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all. I just am wondering I am running the I phone 8 and now that the
apple event is over what about those of us who are running older phones like
that? I have been thinking of upgrading for a while but am not shure witch
phone I should upgrade to? Since beaing that I am blind I don't really cair
that much about the camra and stuff except when it comes to doing things
like ocr and stuff I just was wondering the groups thoughts? My phone is
still running good and vo is still working as it should I just was wondering
about the groups thoughts. Btw I am in Ontario Canada if that helps so some
of the things like the us carriers wouldn't really apply to my situation. I
got this phone back in 2019 and we are now in 2021. From Mich Verrier from
New Liskeard Ontario Canada. 

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question how to take a screen shot with voice over and the i phone 8?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I am talking to some one sighted who wants me to take a screen shot
using my I phone 8. They are asking me to send funds through paypal and take
a screen shot. I am not shure why they are asking this when I could just
forward them a receate. So my question is how to take a screen shot using
voice over and my I phone 8? Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from New
Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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RE: Find my iPhone

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I have used find my I phone when I have miss placed it. what you do is tern 
it on and then go to it after it is turned on and it will omit a beep 
continulessley until you find your phone. You can also use it on a I pad or any 
other I divice. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Roberts
Sent: September 7, 2021 11:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Find my iPhone

 

I need information about how to use find my iPhone. I have misplaced mine, but 
hopefully it is still in the house. I am certain that I turned it on a long 
time ago but never have had a reason to use it until now. Perhaps I should 
mention that I tried phoning but the call immediately went to the answering 
system. That would have been the easiest way to locate the phone, but now my 
only option is find my iPhone.

 

I do have another iPhone although it is a 6. Also, my daughter knows how to use 
it, but I would appreciate a list member telling me just how to use it.

 

Thanks.

 

Don Roberts

 

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RE: cell phones O.K.

[Mich Verrier]

The defult voice on my phone is Samantha or alex I am in Ontario Canada. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: cell phones O.K.

 

   So I want to know this, for those of you in other countries, 
what voiceover voice do you use? What is the default on your phones?  I’ve 
noticed the U.K. voices as well as a couple Australian voices. 

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RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Mich Verrier]

I have never been to the U.K But have always wanted to go. I always wonderd how 
much people use cell phones over there or as they call them mobile phones. It 
seems that at least from the books I have redover the years that they are used 
a lot more over there then they are hear in Canada or I imagin in the US. From 
Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: September 2, 2021 8:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

   I was in the U.K. in 1996 and I was fascinated to see how cell 
phones were used back then, way more used there then they were here. 

I’m interested to know when texting started over there? When I was there, 
everybody still made voice calls. 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of CJ & 
AA MAY
Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2021 3:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Here in Britain they are predicting that as from 2025 landlines will no longer 
be available. There are issues which need to be resolved before this can 
happen, for example, the UK traffic lights are operated via a landline and also 
what happens when there is a power cut and no wi-fi connection.

Alison

 

 

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Esther Levegnale
Sent: 01 September 2021 22:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I also listen to NewsLine on my land line phone. I do use my iPhone pretty much 
all day, and even keep it on at night when I'm sleeping, because my Fitbit 
measures my sleep. Well anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Ha ha! 
Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

 

On Sep 1, 2021, at 2:01 PM, sherrywells1...@gmail.com 
<mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com>  wrote:



I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

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Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and

RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

[Mich Verrier]

I also prefer to talk on my land line as well and would not be with out it I 
couldn’t see my self only using a cell for my phone since as others have said 
at least on a landline you are able to press buttens if you get a menu that 
askes you to press 1 it is easier to do that on a landline then on the I phone. 
From Mich.

 

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sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: September 1, 2021 2:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I agree – if I am home, I prefer to talk on my land line.  I often pace while 
talking & when on my IPhone, I frequently break up as I move slightly away from 
the speaker.  Also, never had a dropped call on a land line.  Lastly I love 
using NFB Newsline on the land line.  I can punch the buttons much faster than 
I can swipe.  This enables me to listen to the newspaper with my phone laying 
down on the counter while I am chopping vegetables or doing other things.  
Having said all this though, I would not give up my IPhone for anything!

 

Sherry Wells

 

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Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

I still prefer a landline to talk on the phone when I do talk. I’m not much of 
a phone person and I feel a disconnect when I talk on most cells. There are 
effects that I find unpleasant.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Agree, we had a land line, never used it, didn’t know it had stopped working, 
didn’t care when we did discover it wasn’t working so now just don’t have one. 
I never thought this would happen. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Land Lines, was Re: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

One of the  things that amazed me the most after I got my IPhone 5 was how 
quickly I turned off my land line. It was less than 3 months, my billing cycle 
was about to start again, and I just couldn't figure out why I needed it any 
more. That was almost nine  years ago, I have not missed it. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2


On Sep 1, 2021, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Yes, but for me if somebody has only a mobile number and this is their 
main/home number this is still a mobile number for me.

I agree that maybe there should be a label for Mobile (personal) and Mobile 
(work) or even Mobile 1 and Mobile 2, but the purpose for these labels should 
also be that they determine certain actions, e.g. you say "text John Smith" and 
by default the mobile number should be used and I don't see any point in giving 
people the option to use their home or work phone.

I have not had a landline in about 15 years and I don't think I recall ever 
having been in a situation where I desperately needed one.   For me 
even paying $5 a month to have one would be a waste of money, then I also have 
to have a cordless phone or something like that and these days even during a 
power outage cell networks usually stay up for a long time because all the 
towers have battery backup and all that. In early July I visited my family who 
live on a remote Ranch and a big storm destroyed miles of power line and it 
took 5 days for the power to come on again and during this entire time the cell 
tower was working. Sure, if you are not somewhat prepared chances are you run 
out of power a long time before the cell towers do, but that is what external 
batteries are for, keep a 26,000 MAH battery topped up and you can charge your 
iPhone for a week. In fact, if there is a severe weather event chances are 
telephone lines are going to be down as well so there are probably situations 
where cell phones work and landlines do not.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: September 1, 2021 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Identifying labels when making a contact

 

Sadly Sieghard, too many times these days Work phones and home phones are cell 
phones.  Fewer and fewer of our friends are 

thinking of upgrading from the i phone 8 to the i phone 12 pro what's the comand to start vo on that phone?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I am thinking of upgrading to the I phone 12 pro from the I phone 8
and am wondering what's the command to start vo on that phone? Many thanks.
I am not shure if I am going to upgrade I am just thinking about it. from
Mich.

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RE: Testing as having issues sending to the list

[Mich Verrier]

Yes it has gone through. From Mich.

 

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Just testing to see if this goes through.  It seems like I haven’t been able to 
post in 3 months or so.

 

Vivian and Sallie

 

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RE: please do not update to the latest messenger

[Mich Verrier]

Is the unred messages a bug? If so hear’s hopeing that they get rid of it in 
the next update. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Duane 
Steele
Sent: August 24, 2021 10:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

 

Hello Listers,

 

I normally don't reply within threads of conversation unless I have something 
to say. This thread about not updating Messenger has simply got to disappear. 
The only thing different in the latest Messenger update is that it reads all 
messages within conversations as unread. Otherwise, it's exactly the same as 
previous versions, and updating it is fine. So let's get rid of this thread 
that's truly meaningless. It's perfectly okay to update Messenger. Besides, 
when we talk to friends and family on this platform, we know they're reading 
our messages because they answer them. Enjoy the current update.

 

Peace & Blessings,

Pastor Duane L. Steele

Phone (276) 730-5194





On Aug 24, 2021, at 7:37 AM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



How do I know if my messenger has updated? Whatever release in Europe didn’t 
seem to reach me yet. 

 

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From: Wendy Lin <mailto:wendy9...@hotmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

 

Well for some reason even though my app automatic updates are turned off, my 
apps still end up updating automatically. This has been happening since I got 
my iPhone 6S last year. It never happened in my previous iPhones. I was able to 
update my apps manually but now they tend to update automatically.

 

Wendy

 

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 5:20 AM,  <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> >  <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

> 

> All blind and visually impaired users of voiceover should learn not to 
> auto-update their apps. For the most used applications you'd better always 
> wait some months to update. I do always update my apps because I use 2 
> devices one to test.

> Davy 

> 

> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-

> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Donna 
> Casteen

> Verzonden: vrijdag 20 augustus 2021 0:19

> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 

> Onderwerp: Re: please do not update to the latest messenger

> 

> 

>> 

>> I didn't realize the problem until it was brought to my attention on this 
>> list. Sad part...I have used the messenger app several times since updating 
>> & didn't even notice the problem.

> 

> Donna

> 

>> Oh good so I’m not the only one that’s noticing this issue. Hoping they will 
>> fix it next go round of updates.

>> 

>> Sent from my iPhone

>> 

>>> On Aug 19, 2021, at 12:57 PM, davycupp...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>  wrote:

>>> 

>>> Because if you do so all your messages wil be stated as unread even 

>>> if they have already been read.

>>> Davy

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RE: Question about pronunciation

[Mich Verrier]

I am using the semantha voice and found the mis pernounceation. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: August 23, 2021 7:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about pronunciation

 

Which voice are you using? I’ve noticed the headache mispronouncation with Tom 
and Samantha 

 

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From: Dacia Luck <mailto:dacia.l...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 5:41 PM
To: viphone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Question about pronunciation

 

Hi, I am trying to figure out why over the last several days, when I write the 
word s-m-e-l-l-y but when voiceover reads it, it does not say that word, but 
actually says what sounds like Shelly? It also seems to miss pronounce the word 
 head ache headache.

 

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RE: Question about pronunciation

[Mich Verrier]

Yes the word hed ake forshure is miss pernounced it is pernounced like heed ake 
not hed ake. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: August 23, 2021 7:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question about pronunciation

 

I’m also noticed the word headache is mispronounced with Tom enhanced and 
Samantha enhanced if the phrase is “a headache” it pronounces it very 
strangely. 

 

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From: catwacky via VIPhone <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Question about pronunciation

 

I can attest to this. I’m using Alison and no matter what I try, and I have 
tried many, many times, she says peas for peace or piece. I’m not fond enough 
of peas to ask God or anyone else to send me peas but will gladly ask for peace.

 

Karen

 

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Question about pronunciation

 

Those of us who have been using an iDevice for years have learned that from 
time to time, VoiceOver starts mispronouncing certain words for unexplained 
reasons. Whether a word is mispronounced or not is a function of the particular 
word and synthesizer being used. I'm using Samantha enhanced and can confirm 
I'm getting the same pronunciation of smelly you are. And even though VoiceOver 
spoke that word as Shelly, it was spelled s m e l l y.

 

Alan Lemly  

 

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Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 4:41:18 PM
To: viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Question about pronunciation 

 

Hi, I am trying to figure out why over the last several days, when I write the 
word s-m-e-l-l-y but when voiceover reads it, it does not say that word, but 
actually says what sounds like Shelly? It also seems to miss pronounce the word 
 head ache headache.

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Most recent update for Facebook messenger app

[Mich Verrier]

I think the only problem is that every message in that app shows as un red even 
if it was. Apart from that I am not shure. Hth. From Mich.

-Original Message-
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Sent: August 21, 2021 4:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Most recent update for Facebook messenger app

Hi! All:

I just wanted to ask a question. I had heard word over the list whether it was 
this list or Blind techies I’m not sure but I thought I would ask on this list 
if anybody knows if there is a problem with the most recent update to Facebook 
messenger app for the iPhone. The updated version of the iPhone App for 
Facebook messenger is 326.1. Anyone who could reply and let me know would be 
appreciated by me. I have not downloaded it yet but it is in my app updates. I 
did not want to download it unless I knew for sure that it was OK.

Thank you in advance, and have a great weekend.

Regards!
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RE: chrome browser

[Mich Verrier]

Hi you can get it from the app store. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: August 11, 2021 2:42 PM
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Subject: chrome browser

 

Hi 

 

I want to use the chrome browser in my iphone, is it available in the app store 
or I have to downloading it from the website? 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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Re: has anyone tried these apps

[Mich Verrier]

Are use Telegram it does work I have not used signal or do I have it installed 
I haven’t heard or used of the first one you mentioned. From much

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 21, 2021, at 6:36 AM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was considering trying some different messaging apps since there is another 
> zero click effort going on.  These reportedly have protections against zero 
> click attacks and thought I'd ask here before going through the effort myself.
> 
> 
> 
> The apps are:
> 
> 
> 
> Threema
> 
> Telegram Messenger
> 
> Signal
> 
> 
> 
> Not sure about using Telegram Messenger because of its storing everything in 
> the cloud and I do not trust cloud storage very much though.
> 
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> 
> Any experiences appreciated.
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question has any one come up with a cheet sheet or resorse that describes what the icons on the i phone screen meen?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all. Yesterday I was trying to help my Dad with his I phone he needed to
change his password on facebook after getting hacked. I tried to get vo
running but couldn't. I asked him to describe what was on the screen and he
was describing things to me that I had no idea like for instince a sercle
with a little tale on it and icons like that. then after having a chatt with
some friends they told me that the edit icon is apencel and things like
that. that got me to thinking I wonder if any one has come out with a
rezorce or cheet sheet describing what the icons on the screen are vishuley?
For instince edit equals a pencel and stuff like that since I realised that
for those of us who are blind and who use vo vo will describe the different
things as far as what they do like settings edit etc but I for one and I am
shure others have no idea that for the sighted that the icons don't say
those things and that they are pictures. So I am wondering if there is sutch
a thing out there. From Mich.

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RE: The seamless app

[mich verrier]

Checking the canadion app store this app doesn't seem to be hear in Canada. 
From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Johna 
Gravitt
Sent: June 21, 2021 7:07 AM
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Pricing appears to be the same as the actual restaurants, it doesn't appear to 
be inflated.  The taxes and service fees seem to be lower than UberEATS as well.
Also, the delivery fees aren't too bad either and if you subscribe to seamless 
plus you get free delivery from a lot of places and other perks as well.
Johna

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 3:56 AM
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Subject: Re: The seamless app

what about pricing?
- Original Message - 
From: "Johna Gravitt" 
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Subject: RE: The seamless app


I use the seamless app on a regular basis.  It is very accessible.  The 
descriptions are very good on the restaurants and the items on the menus. 
The only issues I've found are rating after delivery, and when getting 
support through the chat feature, you cannot read what you've wrote after 
it's sent, only what the agent writes.
I've submitted feedback to them.
Johna

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Noe 
Villeda
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2021 2:21 PM
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Has anyone used the Seamless app?
I hear it is similar to Uber eats.
If so, what are your thoughts on it, is it accessible?

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RE: accessibile security systems that are compatibole with the Iphone 8?

[mich verrier]

Hi all how mutch do these systems cost? And are they in Canada? I live in 
Canada and am wondering. I realise that the majoridey of the members on this 
list live in the US so I thought I would ask if these are in Canada or not? I 
have herd of the ring doorbell system is this the same thing? From Mich.

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Sent: June 19, 2021 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: accessibile security systems that are compatibole with the Iphone 
8?

Vivint is not that accessible at all. I just got rid of there system and 
installed the Ring system which is very accessible. The keypad is very simple 
and easy to use. The system also sends you instant notifications as soon as you 
do any action. I like it. 


> On Jun 19, 2021, at 7:07 AM, Dacia Cole  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> My family and I just bought a house and we want to install a security 
> system. I'm looking for one that is accessible and that I can use with 
> my Iphone and that the keypad for the system is accessible. Is the 
> Ring security system accessible. I've also heard Vivent (not sure of 
> the spelling) is accessible, but not sure if this one is as good based 
> on some reviews I've read.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Dacia
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RE: Treadmill app

[mich verrier]

Hey hear in Canada we use km as well for our distince and stuff like that. Also 
I red a few weeks ago the reasons why iffrent places drive on oppsit sides of 
the road and it has to do with knights and they were rideing there horses and 
what sides there sords were on etc. it also has a derect link to the places 
that napolien concerd if you look at a map all of the contries that he concerd 
drive on the left and the others drive on the right. From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: June 7, 2021 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Now listen, I am right about this.  You guys are the ones who drive on the 
wrong side of the road, and there is no doubt about that. Smile!

Larry


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:32 PM
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Larry
NZ converted back in the late 60's before I was born,

And I still use inchs feets miles etc,

But then I use the metric system as well.

And besides,

You guys still drive on the wrong side of the road, That wouldn’t' be an easy 
conversion.

Rotflmao 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:28 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

I don't know what I was thinking there.  Jimmy Carter would not be very happy 
with me for that. lolI wish the U.s. would go ahead and switch over to the 
metric system.  It would not take long for the people to get accustomed to itt.
Larry


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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:22 PM
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Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's from living in a metric nation that still can use empyreal 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:20 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Oops, sorry, my bad you are right.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 5:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

Um,
100 miles per hour is equal to 160 kilometres per hour,

So one mile is approx. 1.6 Km. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Larry 
Wayland
Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 10:12 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Treadmill app

I don't think that is quite right.  .62 of a mile is one km. so two km is 1.24 
miles.
Larry


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Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Monday, June 7, 2021 4:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Treadmill app

That's easy,

1.616 Km is approx. a mile,



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Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2021 7:55 am
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Subject: Re: Treadmill app

Hi, I ordered one from Amazon by the brand surene life and it has buttons that 
you can label and or it has the speed buttons up and down on one handle and on 
and off on the other.  There is also an app you can use to keep up with your 
miles but it is in kilometers.
Hope this helps.
Amy

On 6/7/21, Vicki W.  wrote:
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>
> I'm looking for a treadmill that can either be used with an accessible 
> app or touch screen on the treadmill itself, both options would be 
> great. Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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RE: game app recommendations

[mich verrier]

If you like self voicing games blind drive is a good one as well as a blind 
legend. These are games that voice over is not on since they are each self 
voiceing games. Blind drive you play a blind person driving a car down the road 
and having to avoide traffic and stuff like that. A blind legend you play a 
solger who is blind and you have to fight your way in different places and 
seens. They each are really cool. Apple vis has a good games section as well. 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Healy
Sent: June 4, 2021 9:18 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: game app recommendations

 

can someone recommend some good game apps to me?

I already play dice world!

However I'd like to be able to play some more games, can you recommend good 
game apps for the Iphone?

shirley

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RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - The Washington Post

[mich verrier]

Hi I have to ask when or even if this tech will ever get in the hands of blind 
people? Or for that madder even if there are any blind people in this prodo 
type development? So many of these ideas never seem to get off of the ground 
and are just flashes in the pan and never herd of again. From Mich.

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Sent: May 24, 2021 11:07 AM
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Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

I also don't see the harm in researching and exploring different options. Sure 
the technology is in it's early stages, and kinks need to be worked out, but 
how is this different from any other technology, such as smart phones using a 
touch screen? I can see where people wouldn't think this would be an option for 
themselves, but that is why choice is important, and just because someone 
doesn't use something doesn't make it ridiculous. Ditto for using a cane or a 
guide dog. The bottom line is being independent, and if a cane works for 
someone then they're personality shouldn't be called into question.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ed 
Worrell
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 10:10 AM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers think so. - 
The Washington Post

I don’t see the harm in them/companies creating different options for travel. 
The robot assistant still feels a ways off for me. I commend them for looking 
outside the box.

I personally think that a robot dog, or robot helping me walk down the road is 
probably the future, but it still won’t replace the companionship of the guide 
dog. The will never be able to replace that aspect no matter how hard they try.

Ed
 

> On May 24, 2021, at 5:12 AM, Johna Gravitt  wrote:
> 
> I agree.  Also, what about getting you around construction or stopping you at 
> curbs or steps?
> Secondary navigation aids are a great idea and I for one would love to test 
> some out but I’ll stick with my fury friend as well.  
> I did try a robot guide in a study a while back and it was definitely  
> interesting but I still feel safer with my dog or Cain.
> Johna
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> CJ & AA MAY
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 2:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
> think so. - The Washington Post
>  
> I think that such equipment could be useful as a secondary mobility aid, but 
> really don’t see it replacing a cane or a dog. It isn’t enough to know that a 
> person is approaching you, you need to know which way to go to avoid that 
> person or obstacle. It would require tremendous concentration when navigating 
> a busy shop or trying to find your way back to the exit.
> Think I’ll stick with my dog, but I can see that one day there will be useful 
> secondary mobility aids.
> Alison
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
> CrazyEyez
> Sent: 23 May 2021 22:50
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Could a smart backpack replace guide dogs? Researchers 
> think so. - The Washington Post
>  
> honestly this is stupid.
> Another money grab.
> You'll never ever replace the cane.
>  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> 
> On May 23, 2021, at 4:54 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> Thought this might be interesting to read.
>  
>  
> 
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/25/innovations-ai-ba
> ckpack-blind/
> 
> Researchers design an AI-powered backpack for the visually impaired 
> Artificial intelligence researchers hope the bag will one day replace 
> canes and guide dogs
> 
> Dalvin Brown
> March 25, 2021 at 9:00 a.m. EDT
>  
> Researchers at the University of Georgia created an AI-powered 
> backpack to help visually impaired people navigate the outside world. (Intel) 
> Among the latest iterations of next-generation assistive accessories is a 
> backpack powered by Intel’s artificial intelligence software. It’s designed 
> to audibly alert wearers when they’re approaching possibly hazardous 
> situations like crosswalks or strangers.
> The backpack, which has yet to be named, was revealed Wednesday but could 
> face years of development before a consumer-ready version is launched. Still, 
> the product offers a glimpse at what a future could look like as progress in 
> AI and machine learning increasingly help people with vision issues better 
> perceive their environments and, therefore, live more independently.
> The backpack was created by researchers at the University of Georgia, who 
> took exist

RE: Air Tags

[mich verrier]

Hello I have not seen the air tags but I do know from lissening to the 
demonstration from Jonathan mosen that the audio that they give out is not a 
constent beeping it is only for a few seconds and that's it. If you want to 
keep track of your dog might I sugest a bell attached to the d ring of his 
collar. You can get ones with a clip simmiler to the meddle clips on leashes. 
From Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.

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Subject: Air Tags

Hello All, does anyone know if the Air Tag is loud enough to fasten to a god.  
I have a rather large yard and when I have my puppy off leash, it would be good 
to listen to him move around with the air tag.  Thanks so much for any 
information.  Andy and Leroy

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RE: Bose frames

[mich verrier]

They are sunglassis with speekers built in. from Mich.

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Stahl
Sent: May 2, 2021 5:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bose frames

So just for clarification, are these devices headphones or some sort of speaker 
system? I've never heard of them.  

> On May 2, 2021, at 10:39 AM, rick.alf...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Hi. Afte4r trying a few different Bluetooth glasses and open ear type 
> headsets I finally decided on the Bose Frames Tempo. They are a wrap around 
> style set of sun glasses with awesome battery life compared to some of the 
> others and the sound is decent given the size of its speakers. I wear them 
> every day and use them for listening to podcasts or audio books and they also 
> work great for making and answering phone calls. They are expensive but work 
> the best for me.
> 
> My next favorite are the AfterShokz AeroPex but don't care for the way 
> that AfterShokz headphones work with Siri because you have say "hey Siri" 
> when issuing a Siri command via its multifunction button which is totally 
> unnecessary with other brands.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest regards
> 
> Rick Alfaro
> 
> -Original Message-
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Bose frames
> 
> Hello All, can I ask for your opinions on the Bose Frames that will 
> not block my hearing during my walks?  I believe that there is another 
> headset by Bose do not cover your ears also.  I need something that 
> sounds great so I can use Goodmaps and soundscape and some other apps.  
> What I am doing now is, I have my I Phone in my backpack on the strap.  
> It works well but, I would like to have a bit more privacy but at the 
> same time have total ability of hearing traffic and other sounds 
> around me.  Although I mentioned Bose, it doesn't need to be.  I just 
> want a quality piece of equipment that will be comfortable and sounds 
> great and looks good.  Thanks so much for your time and any 
> suggestions.  Andy and Leroy
> 
> Andrew J. LaPointe, President
> Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
> 34 Raymond Ave.
> Salem, MA. 01970
> Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185
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RE: In need of assistance

[mich verrier]

Hello Kait ok first of all you triple tap the home butten and it will turn on 
voice over. From there there is a voice over practus moad that you can go into 
to practus things like different jesters to use on the phone. I hope thishelps 
also sights like applevis.com is another good place to get started on using 
voice over on your phone. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kait 
Forbes
Sent: May 2, 2021 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: In need of assistance

 

Good morning everyone,

 

Okay, Let me give you a bit of background.  I Care for my Grandmother, she is 
my mom.  With recent illness she is now almost totally blind.  I need to Help 
her get some kind of handle on things so I am starting with her phone.  I need 
help and I am told this is one of the groups that can do this for us.  With 
your help I too will have the knowledge to assist her.  I bought her the iPhone 
 SE 2nd. generation. It says it has the version iso 14.5 with that in mind 
Please , How in the world can I set this up for her?  Many thanks for your help 
and support here.

Kait

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RE: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

[mich verrier]

Hi did you try submerging it in dried rice? I herd that works. From Mich.

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Subject: RE: Help, What to do about a briefly submerged phone

I do remember now that I used my hair dryer on warm to blow and blow on my 
phone, but it only ever seemed to be wet on the bottom, when I removed it. I 
was concerned about moisture getting inside the case, but could not get it off. 

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Lisa:
 
Here is a link to give you all the info about dropping your iPhone in water.  
Good luck.
 
https://appletoolbox.com/dropped-iphone-in-water/

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Re: Outlook for iOs

[Mich Verrier]

hi all I am also considering making this change as well is the outlook app 
free? I’ve checked in the App Store and I saw that it had an in app purchases 
so I’m assuming that you had to pay for it but I don’t know can anyone verify? 
Many thanks from much
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 25, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Sandra Finley  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I am considering switching from the native iOs e-mail app to Outlook. I am 
> testing it out now so I can make an informed decision.So far I have three 
> questions for anyone who has made this change.
> 
>  To delete a message in Outllok I swipe down. Sometimes my first choice is 
> Delete and at other times it is Move. If the choice is Move I swipe again for 
> delete. After that, /Delete becomes the first selection for three or four 
> messages in a row and then it goes back to Move. Does anyone know why or what 
> to do about this?
> 2. In the Outlook calendaR the only view I see is by the week.  Can that be 
> changed to a listview by the day? or by events
> 
> 3. What do you like and what do you dislike about Outlook for iOs?
> 
> 
> Thanks.Sandy Finley
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> for is this true or not? From mich

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RE: Apple getting cheapq

[Mich Verrier]

>From what I herd apple is not shipping any of there phones with chargers since 
>they want you to buy them seppritley since you have to remember that apple's 
>main thing is to make money. O shure apple has dun good for the blind and vi 
>comunidey with voice over and stuff how ever you have to remember that the 
>mane objective for apple is to make more money. From Mich.

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Subject: Apple getting cheapq

My SE2020 didn't even come with a C charger.  How cheap is that 
considering it's so proprietary?  It came with the C cord but not the 
charger.



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RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all speeking of the mails app on ios I have found that when ever I a reading 
a message or just going through messages with out oaping them if I get a new 
message it bumps me back to the top of the list of messages so that I have to 
start all over again. Is this a known bug in the ios male app? From Mich.

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Sent: April 14, 2021 7:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

Hello,

Who is saying that the ScrollBar is the problem?

And, if that is the problem, why can't Apple make that optional.  I would much 
rather do without the ScrollBar if loosing my place in the giant fat middle of 
a long list of mail could be resolved.

Regards,

James B  

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Casteen
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2021 10:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: At My Wits End With The Native Mail App On IOS 14.4.1

You are not alone with your frustration with the mail app. The problem & cause 
of the hair pulling, & loud swearing, is the useless scrollbar!!! If Apple 
wants to keep it, because some people want the scrollbar, make it an option 
that can be selected or left alone in the depths of HE郎郎 for those of us that 
find the scrollbar a only a pain in the A郎郎! Oh, lets not forget the emails 
that won’t delete unless a magic trick is performed!郎郎

Donna
 
> 
> Hi,
> Excuse me while I vent, as I’ve become increasingly frustrated with the 
> native IOS mail app.  I’ve been using iPhones since the iphone 4  came along 
> in 2010 or 2011, and I’ve used Mail with my GMail account, which has been 
> around since 2007.
> Over the years there have always been focus issues in message lists, and when 
> ovening message threads for the first time I will rarely land on message 1. 
> Then, when opening a message in the thread and using the Messages item in the 
>  rotor to move to the next message, I may get bounced back to a message 
> that’s way earlier in the thread than the one that I intended to move to. For 
> example, let’s say I’m on message 50 of 120 in the thread. I use Messages in 
> the  rotor and select Next Message. In this example, I might get bounced back 
> to Message 21. 
> These are just a couple of situations that are frustrating me like crazy.
> I could try the GMail app or Outlook for Ios, but I like the native mail app 
> for the most part and am realy surprised that Apple hasn’t managed to make 
> the damn thing behave. 
> Surely I’m not the only one who’s having focus issues such as I’ve described 
> above.
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RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Jannett blind drive is self voicing though so you don't need vo to run it 
only to start the game and then toggle vo off and the game should just run 
fine. Btw I am running a I phone 8. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Hi Mich I get that but then no sound whatsoever.  my phone has gone into 
landscape at this point and it doesn't say blind drive either so maybe I 
have the name wrong but I don't think so.  Janet

On 05/04/2021 17:32, Mich Verrier wrote:
> In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
> touch. From Mich.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
> type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
> for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.
>
> On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
>> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
>> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
>> entry.
>> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
>> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
>> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
>> area.  Things just work.
>>
>> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
>> iOS 1.4.4?
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
>> Snyder
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
>> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
>> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
>> - Brad -
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
>> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
>> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
>> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
>> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
>> touch area.”
>> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
>> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>
>>
>> My web site,
>> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
>> Esther
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>>
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
>> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
>> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>>
>> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
>> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
>> there. I don't know what 

RE: adding direct touch to the rotor

[Mich Verrier]

In the blind drive game you will get a prompt to turne the roder to derrect 
touch. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: April 5, 2021 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor

Maybe I've never seen anything about direct touch since I usually just
type in text edit boxes.  Direct touch seems like it wouldn't be good
for a blind person to use and wouldn't be of much help to us.

On 4/5/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> What I find interesting about that rotor item, now that you reminded me it
> was there, it was selected on my rotor items, but it does not show up in the
> rotor unless you are using an app that does not use the standard text
> entry.
> But in iOS 14.4.x apple fixed it so you just ignore VoiceOver when it says
> Direct Touch Area and keep typing.
> I have never found a need to turn the rotor when VoiceOver Says Direct Touch
> area.  Things just work.
>
> Do you have an example where you have turned the rotor to Direct Touch in
> iOS 1.4.4?
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brad
> Snyder
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 8:44 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> Direct touch can indeed be added or removed from the rotor.
> On my iPhone 12 pro, running iOS 14.4.2, direct touch is the last item in
> the rotor category. I am able to toggle it on or off as desired.
> - Brad -
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 10:20, Richard Turner
> mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> I do not believe it is something you add or remove from the rotor.
> It is an Apple thing to “help” with accessiblility.
> If you are on iOS 14.4 it should not be a problem.
> You should be able to just go ahead and type even though it says “direct
> touch area.”
> If it won’t let you type, turn the rotor and it will be there and you flick
> up to turn it on and you should be good to go.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C9edf7a6fce454735d61a08d8f849a81b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637532342518223178%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=QjD%2BD6MmWNpdVqq6BWEP8P47IGT3jLNUd%2BjmqQX5DSo%3D=0>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
> Esther
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> no, I was not in and edit field. Esther  an edit  field. Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>
>
> On Apr 5, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Robert Doc Wright
> mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Are you in an edit field wen you are looking for it?
> - Original Message -
> From: Esther<mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 6:23 AM
> Subject: adding direct touch to the rotor
>
> hi, everyone, I am having trouble keeping direct touch added to the rotor.
> Everything else I want is in there, but for some reason it does not stay
> there. I don't know what I am doing wrong. I didn't think there was a save
> button or anything. I would appreciate your enlightening me. Thanks a bunch.
> Esther
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
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RE: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public when active outside

[Mich Verrier]

Hi as some one who is toatley blind I would not wair hed phones wile walking 
around unless it was in my oan apt but out out and about in the real world 
since I need my ers to lissen to the noise of traffic etc. from Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Pete 
Nalda
Sent: March 29, 2021 4:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple AirPod Max, a moral etiquette question about wearing in public 
when active outside

Ok. Given the fact transparency is so well done, are any VI folks here brave 
enough to wear them walking around?  To me, it might be triggering fodder for 
those with their own moral high ground. It’s not like everyone is listening to 
Dubstep with the volume at 90%!  Opinions welcomed!  And without opening 
Pandora’s box, I’ll admit, I’m kind of a freedom over compliance kind of 
person. 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
Louie P (Pete) Nalda
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RE: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using the iPhone.

[Mich Verrier]

Hi you go to he messages app and find the numbe that messaged you. Once you 
found it dubble tap on where it says butten after the number and then you will 
be able to edit things like name, e mail, phone, etc. hth. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: March 17, 2021 10:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Messages question for when you want to send a message to someone using 
the iPhone.

 

Hello all,

 

So like say yesterday a friend texted me with her phone number so with this 
being said how do I get in there in the Messages program to edit it just like 
you do with the phone when somebody calls you?

 

Now don’t ask me how this happened, last week somehow I got into it in the 
Messages program and was able to create a new contact in the Messages program. 
Hope I didn’t confuse you with my explanations. Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Thanks for your prompt attention!

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: an accessible driving game

[Mich Verrier]

It is a lot of fun search for Blind Drive from mich

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 15, 2021, at 9:05 PM, Paul JOrdan  wrote:
> 
> 
> Sounds like fun! I want to go to the app store, to search for it by name so, 
> what is the name of the game? Thanks.
> God bless!
> Paula and the pups
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & 
> AA MAY
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2021 4:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: an accessible driving game
>  
> Below I am posting part of an e-mail about an accessible driving game. I 
> found it a little fiddly initially to set up but it promises to be great fun:
>  
> Subject: A driving game!
>  
> Below is a link to a fantastic driving game.
> this is a fun and great audio game and it is so so immersive, you absolutely 
> feel you are in that car!are not left out of the loop, it is a game where the 
> storyline is built on the fact that you are driving blind with a blindfold 
> on, and is played purely using your ears. It has a good bit of dark humour in 
> it and great fun when you crash   , with messages like perhaps you’d have 
> better luck on the lawnmower!
>  
> https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/blind-drive/id964294239
>  
> Alison
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon 
> A Fogarty
> Sent: 15 March 2021 03:38
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> It’s not rediculis, it’s fact,
>  
> We handled things better than a lot of countrys and we celebrate the fact 
> that we have little if not any current cases of covid,
>  
> It’s not our fault that some countrys leadership ignored the issues of this 
> virus,
>  
> It’s like the saying,
> Kbolting the gate after the horse has bolted,
>  
>  
> May be you should point at your countries leadership and ask why they didn’t 
> do more to keep you safe from this virus,
>  
> Plus we only have 5 million population,
> And incoming international traffic through 2 major centres,
>  
> It’s easier to lock our country down than it is others,
>  
> But it’s  also a benefit that our entire countries behind the keeping the 
> virus out.
>  
> May be other countrys should take a look at how we and a couple of other 
> countrys
> Have treated this globle situation,
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marco 
> Curralejo
> Sent: Monday, 15 March 2021 1:06 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Masks & Face ID
>  
> I’m sorry and I appreciate this topic is somewhat divisive, but when you get 
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> really pull the reigns on this one and not allow such an idiotic post to even 
> get on to the list.
>  
> That’s all I have to say with regards to this stupidity.
>  
> Marco
>  
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Nimer 
> Jaber
> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:35 PM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
>  
> Posts like the below by Simon are dangerous, and should not be permitted on 
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>  
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 9:33 PM Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> Why do you need to wear face masks?
> 
> I have yet to buy or own a face mask and haven't worn one in the year that 
> we've dealt with face masks,
> 
>  Don't even know anyone that has worn one,
> 
> Guess its one of the great things about living in the nation of New Zealand!
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
> Pierce
> Sent: Saturday, 13 March 2021 4:38 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Masks & Face ID
> 
> A doctor from Jons Hopkins says that Covid will be mostly gone by April so 
> the necessity to wear face masks will be ending soon.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/12/21, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> >
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> >&g

RE: Light probe

[Mich Verrier]

You cn use boop it is a light probe app it will get higher the brighter or 
closer you get to the light. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: March 4, 2021 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Light probe

Hi Everyone;
Is there a good app that I could use as a  light probe on my iPhone 12 Pro?
Thank you
Stay safe
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 12 Pro!!!

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RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I have a I phone 8 witch I got on 2 year contract around 2 years ago. I also 
have thought of getting another new phone but have disided that I am going to 
wate since shure telus my carreier has a good deal 0 dollors up frunt on the I 
phone 12 I am going to wate until the 13 comes out and seeif I can get that 
since my 8 is working quite well and from what it sounds like the 13 will have 
a lot of fetures that will work for the future. From Mich Verrier from New 
Liskeard Ontario Canada. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: March 1, 2021 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

You should dabsolutely not buy the current 12 Pro, all you read about the new 
iPhone 13 points to a much better phone with significant upgrades. I believe 
you are somebody who likes to keep his iPhone for more than just a year or two 
and the iPhone 13 ith next gen 5G support, most likely under-screen Touch Id as 
well as Face Id will be much more future proof. My wife and I bought the iPhone 
11 and iPhone 11 Pro, respectively last fall because our carrier offered a 
pretty good deal and we both had an iPhone 8 in ver good condition which we 
were able to sell for a pretty reasonable price, but depending on the final 
specs of the iPhone 13 I might be tempted to upgrade even though we only got 
the iPhone 11 a year ago. For me this would be the first time I upgrade after 
just 1 year, the only other time was in 2011 when Apple released the iPhone 4S 
with SIRI and I upgraded to it from the iPhone 4 which was my first iPhone and 
which I bought in 2010. Whenever major new features are involved like 5G, 
Lidar, MagSafe and so on it seems upgrading the year after these technologies 
are introduced is always a better choice.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
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Subject: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for 
the 13 to come out.

Hi to all.  In a few more months
, I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I thought about 
the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around there, the new iPhone 
13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for the 13 to come out, or purchase 
the 12 pro.  Thanks for any suggestions.
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RE: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait for the 13 to come out.

[Mich Verrier]

Hello all this is a good question. I havea I phone 8 and thee pervider that I 
have tellus is offering all of there I phones as 0 dollars up frunt. I am 
finished paying off my phone and am only paying he 60 for the plan or something 
like that. so I am also wondering if I should wate to upgrade or not and thanks 
for ancering my question. I don’t mind wateing since my phone is holding up 
quite well. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Feir
Sent: February 27, 2021 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: saving up for a new iPhone, should I purchase the 12 pro, or wait 
for the 13 to come out.

 

I recommend holding off and waiting until the 13 comes out. There are a couple 
of reasons for this. For one thing, the LIDAr is rumoured to be offered in all 
models of iPHONE so you'll have more flexibility about which kind of iPHONE to 
get without sacrificing that capability. The chip in the 13 series of iPHONEs 
will be more advanced which is always a good thing that adds years to how long 
your phone will be supported after purchase. Also, the 5G capabilities will be 
the second crack Apple takes at including in an iPHONE. Any lessons they 
learned from the experiences of iPHONE 12 owners will be incorporated into the 
13s. Provided you're reasonably content with the iPHONE you have, I'd say it 
makes more sense to wait.

 

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Hi to all.  In a few more months
, I should have the money to purchase a new iPhone.  At first, I
thought about the 12 pro, but I know, that maybe by October or around
there, the new iPhone 13 will probably come out.  Should I wait for
the 13 to come out, or purchase the 12 pro.  Thanks for any
suggestions.
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Re: Cosori air fryer review

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I am blind and live alone and I find this discussion very interesting. 
Are you able to use this air fryer with the Google Home since I do not have an 
Alexa. Also how much does this air fryer cost? From mich Verrier from new 
liskeard ontario Canada

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 25, 2021, at 2:21 PM, Jenny Wood  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m nearly positive you can. My son and I were looking at this just the other 
> day and his take on it was that you could likely put a tactile dot just above 
> or below each function. Or, if you don’t have sighted folks in the house who 
> will care,  you could stick them directly on top of the function. I 
> personally used one of the little circle labels that come with the Pen 
> Friend, but I didn’t bother labeling it since it’s the only one on the unit. 
> One could certainly use them for the other various settings and use the Pen 
> Friend to label each one. Or, if you have a good memory, you could use any 
> kind of small sticker or tactile dot and simply place them just above, below 
> or on top of the settings themselves. This is on the Cosori unit, by the way. 
> 
> We did actually wind up in a situation where I couldn’t use the internet to 
> access the air fryer, and it was miserable. LOL I will probably go ahead and 
> label more functions on the unit itself for this very reason. We had a pipe 
> burst due to the winter storms that rolled through Dallas last week and the 
> flood in our house destroyed the modem. 
> 
> Jenny & Kylo
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2021, at 10:30 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That is a great question.
>> I suspect so, but I’m heading off to the dentist shortly but will see what 
>> my wife and I can sort out.
>> I should have thought of this myself as last week, around here we lost 
>> internet for 3 days.
>> However, my Sonos speakers worked so since we did not lose power, the Fryer 
>> may have worked had we had it then as ithe in-house wi-fi seems to have 
>> worked.
>>  
>> But, a good question since it would be a shame to not be able to use it if 
>> the internet was out.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
>> realize that you are in a hurry.
>>  
>>  
>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Marie
>> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2021 8:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Cosori air fryer review
>>  
>> Just to play Devil’s advocate, is it possible to mark the device for use if 
>> you lose internet service? Using the app or the Echo is fine but I also want 
>> something I can operate manually.
>> Marie
>>  
>>  
>> From: Kay Malmquist
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 8:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Cosori air fryer review
>>  
>> I hope it works for you.  Here are some air fryer commands.
>>  
>> air fryer commands with the echo
>>  
>> cooking
>> alexia air fry at 350  for 30 minutes on air fryer
>> Preheat the air fryer to 350
>>  
>> Adjust the air fryer
>> Alexia, add 30 minutes to the air fryer
>> stop the air fryer
>> resume the air fryer
>> pause the air fryer
>>  
>> Check the air fryers status
>> is the air fryer on?
>> what is the target temperature in air fryer?
>> when is the food done in air fryer?
>>  
>> 
>> Kay Malmquist
>> kay.malmqu...@gmail.com
>>  
>> "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear"
>> Author Unknown. 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Jenny Wood
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 9:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: Cosori air fryer review
>>  
>> Hey Kay, thanks so much for the tip! I tried telling Alexa to “start air 
>> fryer,” but it didn’t work. I’ll try telling it to “”resume” next time. :-) 
>> And yes, even though my husband had no warning before I bought the thing, he 
>> is using it to air fry just about everything now. LOL It’s fantastic.
>>  
>> Jenny 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 24, 2021, at 9:47 PM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:
>>  
>> Hey Jenny,
>> If you have an echo or dot and you have it connected to the air fryer, you 
>> can tell it to resume the air fryer after you have the recipe programmed in 
>> and even though you haven't started it yet, it will start the fryer.  We 
>> have Highmarks just below all of the buttons, but we

Re: Logitech Keyboard?

[Mich Verrier]

Can you use the 810 with a I phone? I have blue tooth on my phone I am useing a 
I phone 8 from mich verrier

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> On Feb 21, 2021, at 5:17 PM, Shirley Baker  wrote:
> 
> I have the 810 keyboard and it has windows and I really like it. I like 
> windows so that’s why I got this particular keyboard.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2021, at 4:10 PM, Jim Portillo  wrote:
>> 
>> I've been looking for something like that as well, as I absolutely loved 
>> the k810. I used it with three devices, and it worked just great!
>> I don't know much about the 780.
>> I wonder if it's as light and portable as the k810-811.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 1:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard?
>> 
>> Actually the K810 and K811 are basically the same keyboards except that the 
>> K810 is set up as a Windows keyboard and the K811 was optimized for Mac OS 
>> and iOS.
>> I don't think there is always a direct successor for such items, both the 
>> K810 and K811 I believe were able to be used with only one device, I still 
>> have a K811 in a drawer somewhere, but since I am now using a Logitech K780 
>> which can do up to 3 devices I haven't used it in a long time. The other 
>> nice thing about the K780 (and I think a few other Logitech models do this) 
>> is that it has a USB dongle so you can use it even if your Windows computer 
>> doesn't have Bluetooth. I however recommend to use the dongle even if your 
>> laptop has Bluetooth as it is noticeable more responsive when typing then 
>> Bluetooth.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
>> Kriegler
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 5:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Logitech Keyboard?
>> 
>> Hi Don,
>> The 811 came next, don't know if it's available at this point.
>> Best,
>> 
>> Les
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donald Moore' via VIPhone  
>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 7:40 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Logitech Keyboard?
>> 
>> What keyboard is a successor to the Logitech 810?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
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RE: zoom accessibility

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Zoom is verry accessible with voice over. From Mich.

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Sent: February 7, 2021 11:07 AM
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Subject: zoom accessibility

Good morning all. Is zoom easy to use  with voice over? I have a group getting 
together today and don’t know if I will be able to join in the discussion.  Is 
there any place I can go to find out how to use it successfully? Thanks for any 
replies.

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RE: Introducing myself and question about Siri

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Sherley try turning on data when out and about and see if you can do this. 
That might help. From Mich who also uses a I phone 8. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Shirley 
Tracy
Sent: February 6, 2021 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Introducing myself and question about Siri

 

Good morning everyone,

 

I’m new on this list but feel like I know some of you from another list. I have 
the IPhone 8 and struggle some to use it but trying to improve. 

 

My question about Siri: I used to be able to send text messages by voice when 
away from home. Suddenly, I get a message that Siri is not connected to the 
internet. I can’t speak my text messages or hear text messages read to me. Has 
Apple changed something or has one of my settings been accidentally changed?

 

Thanks for any help.

 

Shirley

 

Shirley Tracy 

 

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RE: 14.4 requires 6 digit passcode?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi I just updated and I only needed to enter my 4 digit pass not 16. From ich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Cher 
Bosch
Sent: January 27, 2021 10:22 AM
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Just updated… tell me it ain’t so! Please!

 

Cher

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RE: how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi also I found out that hear in Canada where I am according to what I red that 
apple pay is not supporting this feture hear in Canada. I checked for the apple 
pay butten in the messages app and didn’t find the butten or even the abillidey 
to send money or anything elts through messages using apple pay. When I oapin 
apple pay it says keep all your payments in place and it gives mycard but I 
don’t seethat app apple pay I meen in the list of apps when I slide over to the 
toggle that says hide or show apps when I tern it to show it lists a lot of 
apps but apple pay is not one of them. From ich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: December 28, 2020 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

 

I hope I'm not stating the obvious but you can only send or receive money using 
Apple Pay when transacting with someone running iOS on an iDevice. The below 
requirements are from the Apple Support article I posted at the beginning of 
this thread:

 


What you need


You and the person that you're sending money to or receiving the money from 
must:2,3

*   Have a compatible device <https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208531>  with 
the latest iOS <https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204204>  or watchOS 
<https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204641> .
*   Use two-factor authentication with your Apple ID 
<https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204915>  and sign in to iCloud and iMessage 
with the same Apple ID <https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204053>  on any device 
that you want to use to send or receive money.
*   If you're sending money to someone, make sure there's enough money on 
your Apple <https://support.apple.com/kb/HT207881>  Cash card or an eligible 
debit card in Wallet <https://support.apple.com/kb/HT204506> .

Alan Lemly

 

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mich Verrier
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Subject: RE: how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

 

Hi where do you find the check box that says hide other apps?

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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Subject: Re: how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

 

Strangely enough you only go into settings/wallet/apple pay to add money to 
Apple pay. when you wish to send someone money you do it via text message.

uncheck the box that hides other apps.

then swipe over to Apple pay and double tap

all the way near the end you wil find the picker item to set the amount

choose request or pay

now go back to the front and send

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Subject: how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

 

Hi all I am running a I phone 8 with the latest version of ios. I have apple 
pay installd but when I go into the app I don’t see how you could be able to 
say send money to a number. Does some one know how to do this with vo? Many 
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RE: how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi where do you find the check box that says hide other apps?

 

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Sent: December 28, 2020 5:21 AM
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Strangely enough you only go into settings/wallet/apple pay to add money to 
Apple pay. when you wish to send someone money you do it via text message.

uncheck the box that hides other apps.

then swipe over to Apple pay and double tap

all the way near the end you wil find the picker item to set the amount

choose request or pay

now go back to the front and send

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Subject: how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

 

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how to use apple pay to send soe one money? using vo?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I am running a I phone 8 with the latest version of ios. I have apple
pay installd but when I go into the app I don't see how you could be able to
say send money to a number. Does some one know how to do this with vo? Many
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RE: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software developers?

[Mich Verrier]

Hi all I found the instructions to incert screen recording but when I dubble 
tapped on it it didn't seem to do aanything but sit there. I am using a I phone 
8 running the latest vesion of ios. Can some one tell me what this app does? 
Many thanks. From Mich.

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Subject: RE: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Anthony,
Open Settings, and flick right passed General to Control Center and double tap.
ON this screen you will find all the things that are already in the Control 
Center under the heading, Included Controls.
Turn the rotor to headings and flick down, to the More Controls Heading.
Flick right with one finger until you hear Insert Screen Recording, and double 
tap.

After that you can access screen recording by bringing up the control center 
and following the previous instructions.

You will notice that there is a Reorder button next to the things on the 
control center.
If you do a double tap and hold and keep your finger on a reorder button then 
after you hear the tones, you can slide that button up or down in the list.
That way you can rearrange the buttons on the control center to put the things 
you use the most in whatever order you like.
HTH,
Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
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space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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Subject: RE: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Hi Richard 

Can you please explain to me how to put the scree recorder to the control 
centre? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony  

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Turner
Sent: 24 December 2020 15:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen shots and providing evidence of inaccessability to software 
developers?

Yes Gary, 
It will show them what Apple Accessibility sees when they do a screen share 
with you, so long as the screen curtain is off, they will see the screen. 
As I understand it, it is like they are looking over your shoulder at the 
screen. 
You could do a shoret test and send it to a friend to make sure it is doing 
what you need. 
HTH,

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Dec 24, 2020, at 4:41 AM, 'Gary Robinson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> Just to be clear, are you saying that screen recording will record the image 
> of the screen as seen by a sighted person along with voiceover output and my 
> commentary if I enable the mic?
> 
> 
> The app is fairly large and complex with multiple levels and options within 
> each screen. If screen recording works as above then I may as well point out 
> all the other inaccessable features which I haven'nt bothered with in the app 
> before because I thought it would be too complicated to explain to the 
> developer.
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> Gary
> 
> xOn 23/12/2020 23:23, Richard Turner wrote:
>> Be sure you do not have the screen curtain on.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, put Screen Recording in the Control Center in Settings, if it is not 
>>> already there.
>>> Bring up the Control Center and find Screen recording and flick up with one 
>>> finger to more and double tap.
>>> This is if you want to also record with the micro

RE: Anyone have trouble with back tap

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Jen I hve aa I phone 8 with  audor box case and when I inabld bck tap it 
works fine so it does work through the case. From Mich.

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Sent: December 23, 2020 11:05 AM
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Subject: Anyone have trouble with back tap

Hi I have an iPhone 11 with an otterBox symmetry case and just enable back tap 
can’t get it to work for me any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong or 
any reason why this might not be working.
Thanks.
Jen

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RE: About those unlabeled logos in the Apple TV app

[Mich Verrier]

Hi wow yes it is broken for shure. I just tried what you said and all I am 
getting is clicking and no response from vo. I am using a I phone 8. From Mich.

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Otten
Sent: December 14, 2020 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About those unlabeled logos in the Apple TV app

Hi richard,
No. That’s not when I was talking about. If the watch now tab is selected, 
which it is by default when you first open the app, flick down by headinguntil 
you get to
 some thing that says channels. Choose just the ones you want. Start flicking 
to the right. On my old phone all I get is click, click, click as voiceover 
moves through the area with absolutely no response of any kind. On the 10r I 
get logo other sometimes and I also get some clicking. This is the section 
where you can see all the channels that Apple offers through the TV app. Hope 
that helps.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 14, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Admittedly, I do not use the TV app much.
> But, I updated my 1st Generation iPhone SE to 14.3 and when I open the TV 
> app, if I pick say, the Originals tab, I can read all the names, like Charlie 
> Brown Christmas, Mariah  Carey's Christmas special etc.
> 
> If that isn't what you are talking about, let me know.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.
> There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in 
> learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
> --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> 
> *I'm not the card shark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 1:38 PM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: About those unlabeled logos in the Apple TV app
> 
> I heard back very quickly from Accessibility at Apple after I reported the 
> missing labels. They can duplicate it, but they are telling me I should turn 
> on all those fancy new features, never mind that my older phone doesn't have 
> them. They did say they sent the report on, so maybe some year it will get 
> fixed. I hope others report this. It's such an elementary thing, and for 
> Apple itself to say well just turn on these new features that really aren't 
> ready for prime time, well I hope that's not a harbinger of things to come.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Cosori Air Fryer question

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Debby I just downloaded the perscenic app even though I don't have a air 
fryer yet how ever my question is that I looked at he list of divices in the 
list under add divice and I didn't see one named percenic air fryer cn you tell 
me wht one I am supos to be looking for? Many thanks. From Mich Verrier from 
New liskeard Onario Canada.

-Original Message-
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Sent: December 11, 2020 3:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Cosori Air Fryer question

Hi
I am totally blind and I use the Proscenic air frier which is totally
accessible by either using the Proscenic Home App or your smart speaker.

Debbie

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