RE: Hulu again
The fact that some people are seeing this and others aren't doesn't make it any more likely that it's the operating system rather than the app itself. The fact that it's hit and miss like this is even more reason to get as much information into the hands of Apple and Hulu. Assuming they're serious about getting to the route cause, they have a lot more resources to look for commonalities between the people that are seeing this issue then the people on this list do. That's not to say people shouldn't keep looking for what these people have in common, but they shouldn't be doing this without also reporting this to Hulu and Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf > Of Mary Otten > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 7:53 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Hulu again > > That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I > am a > part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending > something > to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question remains, > why > is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not including the > beta. I’m > talking about people running most recent release of the operating system and > the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which makes zero sense. > That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I > am a > part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending > something > to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question remains, > why > is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not including the > beta. I’m > talking about people running most recent release of the operating system and > the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which makes zero sense. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote: > > > > I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the > operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report these > issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates to the > app. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: Hulu again > >> > >> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu > >> will work normally. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Matthew Bullis > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com > >> Subject: Re: Hulu again > >> > >> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, > >> but if I flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and > >> over. If I drag my finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's > >> not > helpful. > >> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it > didn't. > >> I have the latest phone and operating system. > >> Matthew > >> > >> > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> > >> Hi Chris, > >> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and > >> that is the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best > >> I can get when going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention > >> of the season number and the episode number, and perhaps the episode > >> title, but not the title of the show itself. So it’s not helpful. > >> Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that mattered, but it > might. > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin > wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi Mary, > >>> > >>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all > >>> of the show titles. > >>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, > >>> and I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. > >>> > >>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? > >>> > >>> This is what seems to happen. > >>> > >>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this > >>> is why I say this. > >>> > >>> For each title, the
Re: Hulu again
Hi Chris and Mary, No problems whatsoever on my 10R. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I wonder if it uses the screen recognition feature in ios 14.2? > > Did you come across anyone with a 10R where it worked just fine with? > > I would like to know what phones have a problem, and what ones work just fine. > > Chris > > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same >> unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the >> WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear >> that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me. >>> What phone are you using? >>> >>> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that >>>> I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that >>>> sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But >>>> the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? >>>> This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most >>>> recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some >>>> and not for others which makes zero sense. >>>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that >>>> I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that >>>> sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But >>>> the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? >>>> This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most >>>> recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some >>>> and not for others which makes zero sense. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with >>>>> the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will >>>>> report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the >>>>> future updates to the app. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>>>> Chaltain at Gmail >>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>>>> >>>>>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu >>>>>> will work >>>>>> normally. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: Matthew Bullis >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but >>>>>> if I flick >>>>>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag >>>>>> my finger >>>>>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. >>>>>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but >>>>>> it didn't. >>>>>> I have the latest phone and operating system. >>>>>> Matthew >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that >>>>>> is the Siri >>
Re: Hulu again
Hi Chris, I have an iPhone 7 Plus running the beta of 14.3, and an iPhone XR with 14.2 public release. It works the same or I should say it doesn’t work on both phones. The new feature for text recognition doesn’t make any difference at least not here. And the people in the WhatsApp group who say it works great for them or not using that. So I don’t think that matters. It’s frustrating as all get out. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:40 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I wonder if it uses the screen recognition feature in ios 14.2? > > Did you come across anyone with a 10R where it worked just fine with? > > I would like to know what phones have a problem, and what ones work just fine. > > Chris > > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same >> unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the >> WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear >> that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me. >>> What phone are you using? >>> >>> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that >>>> I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that >>>> sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But >>>> the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? >>>> This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most >>>> recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some >>>> and not for others which makes zero sense. >>>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that >>>> I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that >>>> sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But >>>> the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? >>>> This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most >>>> recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some >>>> and not for others which makes zero sense. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with >>>>> the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will >>>>> report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the >>>>> future updates to the app. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>>>> Chaltain at Gmail >>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>>>> >>>>>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu >>>>>> will work >>>>>> normally. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Original Message- >>>>>> From: Matthew Bullis >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>>>> >>>>>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but >>>>>> if I flick >>>>>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag >>>>>> my finger >>>>>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. >>>>>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but >>>>>> it didn't. >>>>>> I have the latest phone and operating syst
Re: Hulu again
Hi Mary, I wonder if it uses the screen recognition feature in ios 14.2? Did you come across anyone with a 10R where it worked just fine with? I would like to know what phones have a problem, and what ones work just fine. Chris > On Dec 2, 2020, at 9:14 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Chris, > I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same > unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the > WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear > that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: >> >> Hi Mary, >> >> I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me. >> What phone are you using? >> >> I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason. >> >> Chris >> >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that >>> I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that >>> sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the >>> question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This >>> is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent >>> release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not >>> for others which makes zero sense. >>> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I >>> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending >>> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the >>> question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This >>> is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent >>> release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not >>> for others which makes zero sense. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain >>>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with >>>> the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will >>>> report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the >>>> future updates to the app. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>>> Chaltain at Gmail >>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>>> >>>>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will >>>>> work >>>>> normally. >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: Matthew Bullis >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>>> >>>>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but >>>>> if I flick >>>>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my >>>>> finger >>>>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. >>>>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it >>>>> didn't. >>>>> I have the latest phone and operating system. >>>>> Matthew >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is >>>>> the Siri >>>>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going >>>>> through >>>>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the >>>>> episode >>>>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show >>>>> itself. So it’s >>>>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that >>>>> mattered, >>>>> but it might. >>>>>
Re: Hulu again
Hi Chris, I’m using Alex, but I also tried the Siri male voice with the same unsatisfactory results. I don’t understand it. There are folks on the WhatsApp group who have demonstrated how well the app works. So I can hear that it does. But on my two phones, a 10 r and a 7+, crickets. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:11 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me. > What phone are you using? > > I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason. > > Chris > > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I >> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending >> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question >> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not >> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of >> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others >> which makes zero sense. >> That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I >> am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending >> something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question >> remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not >> including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of >> the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others >> which makes zero sense. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain >>>> wrote: >>> >>> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the >>> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report >>> these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future >>> updates to the app. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>> Chaltain at Gmail >>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>> >>>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will >>>> work >>>> normally. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: Matthew Bullis >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>>> >>>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but >>>> if I flick >>>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my >>>> finger >>>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. >>>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it >>>> didn't. >>>> I have the latest phone and operating system. >>>> Matthew >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Chris, >>>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is >>>> the Siri >>>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going >>>> through >>>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the >>>> episode >>>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show >>>> itself. So it’s >>>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that >>>> mattered, >>>> but it might. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mary, >>>>> >>>>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of >>>>> the show titles. >>>>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and >>>>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? >>>>> >>>>> This is what
Re: Hulu again
Hi Mary, I also tried using Alex, and just like Samantha, it worked just fine for me. What phone are you using? I will admit, this is very strange. But to me, there has to be a reason. Chris > On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I > am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending > something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question > remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not > including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of > the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others > which makes zero sense. > That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I > am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending > something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question > remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not > including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of > the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others > which makes zero sense. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the >> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report >> these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates >> to the app. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Gmail >> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>> >>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will >>> work >>> normally. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Matthew Bullis >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>> >>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if >>> I flick >>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my >>> finger >>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. >>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it >>> didn't. >>> I have the latest phone and operating system. >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Hi Chris, >>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is >>> the Siri >>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going >>> through >>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the >>> episode >>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show >>> itself. So it’s >>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that >>> mattered, >>> but it might. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mary, >>>> >>>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of >>>> the show titles. >>>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and >>>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. >>>> >>>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? >>>> >>>> This is what seems to happen. >>>> >>>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is >>>> why I say this. >>>> >>>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view >>>> options button. >>>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on >>>> the next line, which is on the go to details button. >>>> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view >>>> options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go >>>> to a new line. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>
Re: Hulu again
Hi Mary, I am using Samantha enhanced. Chris > On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I > am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending > something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question > remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not > including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of > the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others > which makes zero sense. > That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I > am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending > something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question > remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not > including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of > the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others > which makes zero sense. > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the >> operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report >> these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates >> to the app. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Gmail >> >>> -Original Message----- >>> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>> >>> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will >>> work >>> normally. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Matthew Bullis >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Hulu again >>> >>> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if >>> I flick >>> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my >>> finger >>> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. >>> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it >>> didn't. >>> I have the latest phone and operating system. >>> Matthew >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Hi Chris, >>> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is >>> the Siri >>> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going >>> through >>> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the >>> episode >>> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show >>> itself. So it’s >>> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that >>> mattered, >>> but it might. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mary, >>>> >>>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of >>>> the show titles. >>>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and >>>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. >>>> >>>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? >>>> >>>> This is what seems to happen. >>>> >>>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is >>>> why I say this. >>>> >>>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view >>>> options button. >>>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on >>>> the next line, which is on the go to details button. >>>> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view >>>> options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go >>>> to a new line. >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show >>>>> titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I al
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That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which makes zero sense. That’s a nice theory, except there are people in that WhatsApp group that I am a part of for whom the app is working as it should. I agree that sending something to Hulu and or Apple accessibility could be good. But the question remains, why is it working for some of us and not for others? This is not including the beta. I’m talking about people running most recent release of the operating system and the Hulu app. It works for some and not for others which makes zero sense. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:43 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the > operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report > these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates > to the app. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > >> -Original Message- >> From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone >> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Hulu again >> >> Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will >> work >> normally. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Matthew Bullis >> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Hulu again >> >> I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if >> I flick >> right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my >> finger >> around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. >> I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it >> didn't. >> I have the latest phone and operating system. >> Matthew >> >> >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> Hi Chris, >> My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is >> the Siri >> mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going >> through >> TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the episode >> number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show itself. >> So it’s >> not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that >> mattered, >> but it might. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: >>> >>> Hi Mary, >>> >>> I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of >>> the show titles. >>> First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and >>> I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. >>> >>> I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? >>> >>> This is what seems to happen. >>> >>> It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is >>> why I say this. >>> >>> For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view >>> options button. >>> As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on >>> the next line, which is on the go to details button. >>> But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view >>> options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go >>> to a new line. >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>>> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show >>>> titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a >>>> WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works >>>> fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you >>>> hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two >>>> devices where it does not work at all, I only see details and more options >> rather than titles. >>>> Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference >>>> between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who ha
RE: Hulu again
I'd suspect this is more of an issue with the Hulu app then it is with the operating system. Maybe if those of you who use the Hulu app will report these issues to Hulu then you'll see some improvements in the future updates to the app. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail > -Original Message- > From: 'Simon Wong' via VIPhone > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 6:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Hulu again > > Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will work > normally. > > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Bullis > Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Hulu again > > I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if I > flick > right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my > finger > around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. > I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it > didn't. > I have the latest phone and operating system. > Matthew > > > On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi Chris, > My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is the > Siri > mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going > through > TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the episode > number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show itself. > So it’s > not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that > mattered, > but it might. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: > > > > Hi Mary, > > > > I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of > > the show titles. > > First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and > > I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. > > > > I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? > > > > This is what seems to happen. > > > > It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is > > why I say this. > > > > For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view > > options button. > > As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on > > the next line, which is on the go to details button. > > But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view > > options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go > > to a new line. > > > > Chris > > > > > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> > >> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show > >> titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a > >> WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works > >> fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you > >> hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two > >> devices where it does not work at all, I only see details and more options > rather than titles. > >> Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference > >> between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had > >> this problem and fixed it? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> -- > >> The following information is important for all members of the V > >> iPhone list. > >> > >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, > >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact > >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >> > >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara > >> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > >> > >> The archives for this list can be searched at: > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > >> --- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "VIPhone" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C00A6E12-CAC1-47EF-8BAF- > A28B46F123BD%40gmail.com. > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all member
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Hopefully the operating system will be updated soon, maybe then hulu will work normally. -Original Message- From: Matthew Bullis Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2020 7:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Hulu again I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if I flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it didn't. I have the latest phone and operating system. Matthew On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Chris, My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that mattered, but it might. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: Hi Mary, I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the show titles. First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? This is what seems to happen. It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why I say this. For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options button. As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the next line, which is on the go to details button. But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new line. Chris On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C00A6E12-CAC1-47EF-8BAF-A28B46F123BD%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/098E8C8A-C70C-4DAC-A036-7505517CB559%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://
Re: Hulu again
I have the same issue apparently. I've not used this app in a while, but if I flick right, I just get repeated options and detailsover and over. If I drag my finger around the screen, I get some tv info, but it's not helpful. I thought turning on screen recognition would change the behavior, but it didn't. I have the latest phone and operating system. Matthew On Dec 2, 2020, at 5:49 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi Chris, My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that mattered, but it might. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the > show titles. > First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am > using the default Samantha enhanced voice. > > I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? > > This is what seems to happen. > > It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why I > say this. > > For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options > button. > As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the > next line, which is on the go to details button. > But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options > button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new line. > > Chris > > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in >> the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m >> part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them >> even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like >> you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I >> only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out >> in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. >> Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C00A6E12-CAC1-47EF-8BAF-A28B46F123BD%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/098E8C8A-C70C-4DAC-A036-7505517CB559%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because
Re: Hulu again
Hi Chris, My default default voice is Alex. But I do have another voice and that is the Siri mail. I switched to that. It did not help. The best I can get when going through TV show listings is an unhelpful mention of the season number and the episode number, and perhaps the episode title, but not the title of the show itself. So it’s not helpful. Which voice are you using. I would be astonished if that mattered, but it might. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:35 PM, Chris Chaffin wrote: > > Hi Mary, > > I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the > show titles. > First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am > using the default Samantha enhanced voice. > > I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? > > This is what seems to happen. > > It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why I > say this. > > For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options > button. > As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the > next line, which is on the go to details button. > But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options > button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new line. > > Chris > > >> On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >> I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in >> the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m >> part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them >> even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like >> you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I >> only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out >> in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. >> Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C00A6E12-CAC1-47EF-8BAF-A28B46F123BD%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/098E8C8A-C70C-4DAC-A036-7505517CB559%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3A309A88-8CEC-46CC-9780-8162FFB01BF9%40gmail.com.
Re: Hulu again
Hi Mary, I just opened the Hulu app, and was able to swipe down and hear all of the show titles. First, let me say that I am running ios 14.2 on an iPhone 11 Pro, and I am using the default Samantha enhanced voice. I wonder if it could be the voice you are using? This is what seems to happen. It is not reading the title on the screen like it is text' and this is why I say this. For each title, there is 2 buttons, go to details button, and view options button. As you swipe right down the screen, it reads the title when I land on the next line, which is on the go to details button. But if I swipe left up the screen, it says the title on the view options button, which is the first thing that you land on when you go to a new line. Chris > On Dec 2, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in > the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m > part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them > even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like > you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I > only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out > in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. > Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it? > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C00A6E12-CAC1-47EF-8BAF-A28B46F123BD%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/098E8C8A-C70C-4DAC-A036-7505517CB559%40gmail.com.
Hulu again
I posted about the problem I was having regarding not seeing show titles in the home tab of the Hulu app. I also put this out on a WhatsApp group I’m part of, and three people there all say it works fine for them. One of them even demonstrated it, and sure enough, you hear all the titles just like you’re supposed to. But I have two devices where it does not work at all, I only see details and more options rather than titles. Nobody can figure out in that WhatsApp group what’s the difference between my phone and there’s. Are there folks on here who have had this problem and fixed it? Sent from my iPhone -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/C00A6E12-CAC1-47EF-8BAF-A28B46F123BD%40gmail.com.