Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-15 Thread regina alvarado 


There is really a big learning curve to no home button! Hang in there. Many 
times I wanted to trade my X. Practice, practice and more practice. Two things 
to remember:

1. Go to very bottom of the screen to find the haptic, and I mean the very 
bottom. Now, there are three different pressures for your finger. The lightest 
touch is where you get haptics to open. The second touch is 3D touch which is a 
little harder. Of course using that touch you need to focus on an icon like 
messages before you can use it. So you run your finger lightly along the bottom 
until you feel a jump or hear it or both. I had to turn my finger 90 degrees to 
the screen to find. When you get the feedback you gently and lightly push up 
with your finger until you feel the jump again or hear it or both. That opens 
the screen. From the top you can do the same thing and get notifications and 
one more jump gives control center. Warning: I may have this backward, but the 
motion is same. Now too automatic until I get the wrong one! LOL. It is just 
such a light touch. After a while your muscle memory will remember. 

2. Now when you have the motion down, remember it shortens your screen when 
doing something on the phone. Many times I have closed off apps or gone back to 
home by getting down too far on the screen. No problem, but takes practice 
also. Other frustration for me was face ID. Again, practice is what is needed. 
I had to learn what level to hold my phone for it to recognize. I have never 
seen a camera so looking at it is foreign. I always listened to voices when I 
was in a pic. Apple has made it easier for us to not need attention to the 
screen, but it still is not an easy thing to get used to, at least for me. Hope 
this helps in some small way.

Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
broken heart." So God made a dog.


On Dec 13, 2018, at 9:21 PM, Jed Barton  wrote:

Hey guys,

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click
click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it
once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What
is the secret?

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RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Jed,

This may be one of those situations where a written explanation might do little 
good but somebody looking at what you do as you are doing it could make all the 
difference.
Don't you have an Apple Store nearby where you could make an appointment and 
get a genious, preferably one who knows Voiceover, show/teach you how this is 
done?
Barring that how about another sighted person who has an iPhone X model as well 
and who could observe what  you do and then try and show you?
I strongly suggest you find somebody who can coach you with this because while 
you could get an iPhone 8 (if you are still in the time when you can return 
your  XR, this is only a temporary solution since I don't see the home button 
coming back.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: jedbar...@gmail.com  On Behalf Of Jed Barton
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:21 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Hey guys,

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click
click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it
once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What
is the secret?

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RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Robert Wright 
The easiest way to deal with face ID is to place the middle of your phone up to 
your nose then pull away.

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
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From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 5:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Hey guys.  Well i think i got the home button figured out.  Now just working on 
the face id, trying to make that beter.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 6:31 AM  wrote:
Hello faulks,
I hope my expanation will clear because english is not my first langage.
For those who have difficulties with home botton it could be because the 
mouvement has _ need to be begin out side of the screen. So, if you put your 
finger close to the charging cable and swip up, you should be able. Maybe 
you'll have to practice without your case a little bit.
If you are not able, another way is to add the botton assistive touch. You will 
be able to do things easiesly. Go to settings/general/accessibility/assistive 
touch activate this botton and you can manage it to choose witch options you'll 
need. 
This botton can be remove at the same place than the home botton.
Hope it helps


Lyne

> Le 14 déc. 2018 à 02:27, Dave  a écrit :
> 
> That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.
> 
> In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 
> that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 
> the accessibility features.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jed Barton
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
> button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
> In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
> my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click
> click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
> miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it
> once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What
> is the secret?
> 
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RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz 
You can also enable the assistive touch virtual button and configure this 
gesture with it. This is what I do for notifications, control center, etc.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

The only thing I would add here is to make sure you slide your finger rather 
than swiping too quickly. I had to learn this and it took time but now I find 
it pretty consistent and fairly easy.

Marie

 

 

From: Robert Wright 

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:12 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

Jed, touch at the bottom edge of the phone. When you hear a small pop you slide 
up to the first vibration.this is the home button. The second vibration is your 
app switcher.

>From the top touch, hear the pop then slide down. Vibration 1 is control 
>center, vibration 2 is notifications

 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you! 

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From: Dave
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 12:27 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.

 

In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 

that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 

the accessibility features.

 

Dave.

 

 

-Original Message- 

From: Jed Barton

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM

To: viphone

Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

Hey guys,

 

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home

button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.

In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding

my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click

click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or

miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it

once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What

is the secret?

 

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Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Marie N. 
The only thing I would add here is to make sure you slide your finger rather 
than swiping too quickly. I had to learn this and it took time but now I find 
it pretty consistent and fairly easy.
Marie


From: Robert Wright 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Jed, touch at the bottom edge of the phone. When you hear a small pop you slide 
up to the first vibration.this is the home button. The second vibration is your 
app switcher.

>From the top touch, hear the pop then slide down. Vibration 1 is control 
>center, vibration 2 is notifications

 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***

 

From: Dave
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 12:27 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.

 

In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 

that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 

the accessibility features.

 

Dave.

 

 

-Original Message- 

From: Jed Barton

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM

To: viphone

Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

 

Hey guys,

 

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home

button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.

In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding

my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click

click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or

miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it

once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What

is the secret?

 

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Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Pete Nalda 
I’m afraid sadly, that’s going to take some practice. Your arm has to be a 
certain length out all the time, and if you were glasses sometimes it will 
affect the accuracy of Face ID. I have a hard time with this, and I do have 
some residual site, so all I can say is good luck!

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> On Dec 14, 2018, at 6:38 AM, Jed Barton  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys.  Well i think i got the home button figured out.  Now just working 
> on the face id, trying to make that beter.
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 6:31 AM  wrote:
>> Hello faulks,
>> I hope my expanation will clear because english is not my first langage.
>> For those who have difficulties with home botton it could be because the 
>> mouvement has _ need to be begin out side of the screen. So, if you put your 
>> finger close to the charging cable and swip up, you should be able. Maybe 
>> you'll have to practice without your case a little bit.
>> If you are not able, another way is to add the botton assistive touch. You 
>> will be able to do things easiesly. Go to 
>> settings/general/accessibility/assistive touch activate this botton and you 
>> can manage it to choose witch options you'll need. 
>> This botton can be remove at the same place than the home botton.
>> Hope it helps
>> 
>> 
>> Lyne
>> 
>> > Le 14 déc. 2018 à 02:27, Dave  a écrit :
>> > 
>> > That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.
>> > 
>> > In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 
>> > that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 
>> > the accessibility features.
>> > 
>> > Dave.
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -Original Message- From: Jed Barton
>> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM
>> > To: viphone
>> > Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r
>> > 
>> > Hey guys,
>> > 
>> > OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
>> > button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
>> > In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
>> > my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click
>> > click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
>> > miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it
>> > once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What
>> > is the secret?
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Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Jed Barton 
Hey guys.  Well i think i got the home button figured out.  Now just
working on the face id, trying to make that beter.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 6:31 AM  wrote:

> Hello faulks,
> I hope my expanation will clear because english is not my first langage.
> For those who have difficulties with home botton it could be because the
> mouvement has _ need to be begin out side of the screen. So, if you put
> your finger close to the charging cable and swip up, you should be able.
> Maybe you'll have to practice without your case a little bit.
> If you are not able, another way is to add the botton assistive touch. You
> will be able to do things easiesly. Go to
> settings/general/accessibility/assistive touch activate this botton and you
> can manage it to choose witch options you'll need.
> This botton can be remove at the same place than the home botton.
> Hope it helps
>
>
> Lyne
>
> > Le 14 déc. 2018 à 02:27, Dave  a écrit :
> >
> > That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.
> >
> > In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or
> so, that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some
> of the accessibility features.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Jed Barton
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM
> > To: viphone
> > Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r
> >
> > Hey guys,
> >
> > OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
> > button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
> > In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
> > my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click
> > click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
> > miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it
> > once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What
> > is the secret?
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Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread l . d . ethier23 
Hello faulks,
I hope my expanation will clear because english is not my first langage.
For those who have difficulties with home botton it could be because the 
mouvement has _ need to be begin out side of the screen. So, if you put your 
finger close to the charging cable and swip up, you should be able. Maybe 
you'll have to practice without your case a little bit.
If you are not able, another way is to add the botton assistive touch. You will 
be able to do things easiesly. Go to settings/general/accessibility/assistive 
touch activate this botton and you can manage it to choose witch options you'll 
need. 
This botton can be remove at the same place than the home botton.
Hope it helps


Lyne

> Le 14 déc. 2018 à 02:27, Dave  a écrit :
> 
> That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.
> 
> In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 
> that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 
> the accessibility features.
> 
> Dave.
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Jed Barton
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r
> 
> Hey guys,
> 
> OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
> button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
> In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
> my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click
> click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
> miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it
> once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What
> is the secret?
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RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Robert Wright 
In this case sliding is a better term for what you need.I believe that most 
people swipe and tend to lift the finger at the end of the swipe.

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From: M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Hello Jed,

Wow!  This really sounds frustrating for you.

To be clear, I've never even touched a 10 R but I quite frequently use the 
other models of the 10 series via VoiceOver and have been impressed with the 
results.  

Have you tried rebooting the phone?  

When I was getting used to the non-home button scenario, I remember that the 
first challenge was remembering to swipe up from the very edge of the display.  
This proved to be quite crucial.

So, try to get your finger as close to the bottom edge of the display as 
possible and swiping up in one smooth, fluid motion.   

I'm afraid that's all the advice I have to offer.

Mark

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:21 PM
To: viphone
Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Hey guys,

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home button 
thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding my finger 
on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click click click click 
click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or miss.  I'd say out of 12 
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RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-14 Thread Robert Wright 
Jed, touch at the bottom edge of the phone. When you hear a small pop you slide 
up to the first vibration.this is the home button. The second vibration is your 
app switcher.
>From the top touch, hear the pop then slide down. Vibration 1 is control 
>center, vibration 2 is notifications

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Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 12:27 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.

In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 
that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 
the accessibility features.

Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM
To: viphone
Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Hey guys,

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
my finger on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click
click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
miss.  I'd say out of 12 times i try and unlock the phone i may get it
once.  I've never struggled with something like this this bad.  What
is the secret?

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Re: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-13 Thread Dave 

That is why, i went for the iPhone 8.

In the hope, that when i needed to upgrade again, in about 3 years or so, 
that apple, would have made some new changes, or at least refined, some of 
the accessibility features.


Dave.


-Original Message- 
From: Jed Barton

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2018 2:21 AM
To: viphone
Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Hey guys,

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home
button thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding
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click click click click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or
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RE: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

2018-12-13 Thread M. Taylor 
Hello Jed,

Wow!  This really sounds frustrating for you.

To be clear, I've never even touched a 10 R but I quite frequently use the 
other models of the 10 series via VoiceOver and have been impressed with the 
results.  

Have you tried rebooting the phone?  

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So, try to get your finger as close to the bottom edge of the display as 
possible and swiping up in one smooth, fluid motion.   

I'm afraid that's all the advice I have to offer.

Mark

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Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:21 PM
To: viphone
Subject: really struggling with the home button on the 10 r

Hey guys,

OK, if this is the way this phone is going to be, so far, this home button 
thing is not cool.  I'm really struggling with it on the 10 r.
In my eyes, i am doing everything as advertised, swiping up, holding my finger 
on the screen.  The phone just keeps going click click click click click click 
click,  click click click.  It's very much hit or miss.  I'd say out of 12 
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