Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Jewel]

Same here Rus!  I use the phone only for playing one or two games, listening 
to, perfectly, innocuous books, and sporting commentaries  when there is 
something interesting on such as the current Commonwealth Games which opened 
last night in Brisbane, Australia.

 Jewel  


From: Russ Kiehne 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 2:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Likewise, I didn’t set up the Two-Step Verification.  I’m 69 years old and only 
use my ipad mini 4 for listening to books from NLS, audible, bookshare, books 
I’ve converted to epup to read them in voice dream reader.  I import 
Collections of old time radio shows in the zip format to listen to them with 
voice dream reader.  I use downcast to listen to podcasts.  I didn’t set up 
icloud.

From: deidre muccio 
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

I like you Jewel, don't do any of the added security stuff which requires extra 
steps in both setting up as well as in daily use of the phone. I'm not even 
over 65 yet but I have nothing I keep on my phone that I can't afford to lose. 
I get no adson Facebook I get no junk mail or ads.i Try and tweak settings as 
best as possible to avoid all the added gathering of information which will go 
on with or without us either way. There are no photos attached to any of my 
contacts. I don't use the iCloud Drive.
I guess I'm  a Neanderthal. I  love my phone and use it nonstop throughout the 
day. I skype use the calendar, check the clock read articles online, research 
things through Safari though I find that very unsatisfactory, I,listen to 
podcasts I listen to the radio I read a lot. I use the phone I text message I 
checked mail.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote:


  I never lock my phone and, for that matter, I never lock  my house.  The only 
persons kept out by a locked dorr are honest people!  those who want to get in 
just have to break a window!

   Jewel  


  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


  Jewel,

   

  I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could not 
gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would have to 
be unlocked for them to see the access code.

  My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.

  For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important and 
while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the more 
secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
password.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

   

  It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times when 
I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out all 
those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would rather 
just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it to him/her!

   

   Jewel

   

 

   

  From: Dionesque 

  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

   

  Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it?? 

  Greetings,

  ⭐️ Dionesque 


  Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:

I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I 
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want 
it, but the program took no 
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my em

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Judy Pryor]

Hi Mike, I am still running 10.3.3 on an SE.  I was wondering how you are 
getting on with your update, and are you glad you have done it.  Did you back 
up via iTunes or iCloud.  I have been holding back updating as 10.3.3 works 
really well for me.   I do not have 2 factor  authentication either.

All the best

Judy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Apr 2018, at 02:13, Mike B. <mb69ma...@charter.net> wrote:
> 
> Agree whole heartedly.  Plust the fact is that I don't keep anything on my 
> phone that someone would find useful, that they couldn't get much more easily 
> by hacking my email or something similar.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message -
> From: Jewel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
> access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
> exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
> email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times 
> when I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out 
> all those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would 
> rather just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it 
> to him/her!
>  
>  Jewel
> 
>
> 
> From: Dionesque
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
> many people are avoiding it?? 
> Greetings,
> 
> ⭐️ Dionesque 
> 
>> Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
>> 
>> I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
>> Apple recommendedd that I 
>> have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
>> but the program took no 
>> notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
>> I kept ignoring the 
>> request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
>> unpalatable fact that I 
>> don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
>> back into the jungle, 
>> never, I hope, to be seen again!
>> 
>>      Jewel
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>> 
>> Hello Mike,
>> 
>> It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
>> when upgrading to, / 
>> using iOS 11.3.
>> 
>> As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" 
>> button.
>> 
>> I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
>> have two-step 
>> Verification, enabled.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mike B.
>> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
>> To: VIPhone
>> Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I 
>> avoid activating two-step 
>> verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want 
>> him to, nor do we need him 
>> to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
>> so?  All help will be 
>> greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
>> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
>> Sennt from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
>> end you have to ignore 
>> everything, & click I agree.
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Russ Kiehne]

Likewise, I didn’t set up the Two-Step Verification.  I’m 69 years old and only 
use my ipad mini 4 for listening to books from NLS, audible, bookshare, books 
I’ve converted to epup to read them in voice dream reader.  I import 
Collections of old time radio shows in the zip format to listen to them with 
voice dream reader.  I use downcast to listen to podcasts.  I didn’t set up 
icloud.

From: deidre muccio 
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 6:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

I like you Jewel, don't do any of the added security stuff which requires extra 
steps in both setting up as well as in daily use of the phone. I'm not even 
over 65 yet but I have nothing I keep on my phone that I can't afford to lose. 
I get no adson Facebook I get no junk mail or ads.i Try and tweak settings as 
best as possible to avoid all the added gathering of information which will go 
on with or without us either way. There are no photos attached to any of my 
contacts. I don't use the iCloud Drive.
I guess I'm  a Neanderthal. I  love my phone and use it nonstop throughout the 
day. I skype use the calendar, check the clock read articles online, research 
things through Safari though I find that very unsatisfactory, I,listen to 
podcasts I listen to the radio I read a lot. I use the phone I text message I 
checked mail.
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote:


  I never lock my phone and, for that matter, I never lock  my house.  The only 
persons kept out by a locked dorr are honest people!  those who want to get in 
just have to break a window!

   Jewel  


  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


  Jewel,

   

  I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could not 
gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would have to 
be unlocked for them to see the access code.

  My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.

  For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important and 
while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the more 
secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
password.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

   

  It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times when 
I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out all 
those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would rather 
just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it to him/her!

   

   Jewel

   

 

   

  From: Dionesque 

  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

   

  Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it?? 

  Greetings,

  ⭐️ Dionesque 


  Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:

I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I 
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want 
it, but the program took no 
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, 
but I kept ignoring the 
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I 
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle, 
never, I hope, to be seen again!

 Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
Sent

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[deidre muccio]

All the security features are fantastic. I also don't bother with a passcode 
any longer either Jewel. But Seagirt you run a business and as you say you're 
out a lot. And if I had the kind of stuff most people have on their phones 
credit cards and banking info and who knows what else I sure as hell would be 
using their security features as well.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:41 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jewel,
>  
> I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
> in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
> the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
> account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could 
> not gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would 
> have to be unlocked for them to see the access code.
> My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
> for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
> fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
> phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
> phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.
> For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
> unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
> people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important 
> and while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the 
> more secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
> password.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>  
> It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
> access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
> exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
> email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times 
> when I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out 
> all those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would 
> rather just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it 
> to him/her!
>  
>      Jewel
> 
>    
>  
> From: Dionesque
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>  
> Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
> many people are avoiding it?? 
> Greetings,
> 
> ⭐️ Dionesque 
> 
> Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
> 
> I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
> Apple recommendedd that I 
> have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
> but the program took no 
> notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
> I kept ignoring the 
> request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
> unpalatable fact that I 
> don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
> back into the jungle, 
> never, I hope, to be seen again!
> 
>  Jewel
> 
> 
> --
> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Hello Mike,
> 
> It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
> when upgrading to, / 
> using iOS 11.3.
> 
> As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.
> 
> I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
> have two-step 
> Verification, enabled.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
> activating two-step 
> verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
> to, nor do we need him 
> to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
> so?  All help will be 
> greatly appreciated.

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[deidre muccio]

I like you Jewel, don't do any of the added security stuff which requires extra 
steps in both setting up as well as in daily use of the phone. I'm not even 
over 65 yet but I have nothing I keep on my phone that I can't afford to lose. 
I get no adson Facebook I get no junk mail or ads.i Try and tweak settings as 
best as possible to avoid all the added gathering of information which will go 
on with or without us either way. There are no photos attached to any of my 
contacts. I don't use the iCloud Drive.
I guess I'm  a Neanderthal. I  love my phone and use it nonstop throughout the 
day. I skype use the calendar, check the clock read articles online, research 
things through Safari though I find that very unsatisfactory, I,listen to 
podcasts I listen to the radio I read a lot. I use the phone I text message I 
checked mail.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2018, at 8:51 PM, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> I never lock my phone and, for that matter, I never lock  my house.  The only 
> persons kept out by a locked dorr are honest people!  those who want to get 
> in just have to break a window!
>  
>  Jewel  
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:41 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Jewel,
>  
> I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
> in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
> the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
> account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could 
> not gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would 
> have to be unlocked for them to see the access code.
> My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
> for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
> fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
> phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
> phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.
> For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
> unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
> people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important 
> and while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the 
> more secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
> password.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>  
> It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
> access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
> exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
> email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times 
> when I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out 
> all those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would 
> rather just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it 
> to him/her!
>  
>  Jewel
> 
>
>  
> From: Dionesque
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>  
> Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
> many people are avoiding it?? 
> Greetings,
> 
> ⭐️ Dionesque 
> 
> Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
> 
> I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
> Apple recommendedd that I 
> have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
> but the program took no 
> notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
> I kept ignoring the 
> request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
> unpalatable fact that I 
> don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
> back into the jungle, 
> never, I hope, to be seen again!
> 
>  Jewel
> 
> 
> --
> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Hello Mike,
> 
> It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
> when up

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Janet Bell]

no we are not as far as I am aware but you never know do you.

-Original Message- 
From: 'RobH.' via VIPhone

Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

OT:  not seen names  adjacent before,  so are you and Harry related, like 
Ding and Dong?


Silly, but just wondered.

BobH.


- Original Message - 
From: "Janet Bell" <ja...@jan25.plus.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Much as I agree with keeping your apple products secure when you have only
one product and a verification code comes along it is not that easy to get
it and put it where it needs to go (that is unless you guys no something I
don't) which is probably the case.  I have been trying to put a new card
numbewr in my phone but it doesn't want to know it keeps

-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com telling me that my card is running out soon.so
I suppose I will have to wait until sighted assistance comes along. sorry
for going on.  Janet
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Dionesque,

You ask an excellent question.  I have given it a lot of thought and, by my
way of thinking, two-step verification is a very good thing, by and large.

However, I generally do not recommend it for older people, say those over
75, who only have 1 Apple device.  To my way of thinking, the two-step
system works best when one can have a security code sent to a second trusted
device.

Of course, one can use two-step verification with only 1 Apple device;
however, this requires a third-step, said step opting to have the security
code sent via SMS to a trusted phone number.  This process, for many casual
users, at any age, can be a bit daunting, to say the least.

In the past 12 months, I have received over 10 requests, from various
acquaintances, wanting me to disable two-step verification.  All of these
acquaintances own only 1 Apple product.

As for me?  I use the two-step verification system, along with Touch ID on
all of my primary devices that contain any personal info and I suggest
others do the same.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dionesque
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so
many people are avoiding it??
Greetings,
⭐️ Dionesque 

Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that
Apple recommendedd that I
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it,
but the program took no
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but
I kept ignoring the
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the
unpalatable fact that I
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled
back into the jungle,
never, I hope, to be seen again!

Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification
when upgrading to, /
using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now"
button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not
have two-step
Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I
avoid activating two-step
verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want
him to, nor do we need him
to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do
so?  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

OT:  not seen names  adjacent before,  so are you and Harry related, like Ding 
and Dong?

Silly, but just wondered.

BobH.


- Original Message - 
From: "Janet Bell" <ja...@jan25.plus.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Much as I agree with keeping your apple products secure when you have only
one product and a verification code comes along it is not that easy to get
it and put it where it needs to go (that is unless you guys no something I
don't) which is probably the case.  I have been trying to put a new card
numbewr in my phone but it doesn't want to know it keeps

-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com telling me that my card is running out soon.so
I suppose I will have to wait until sighted assistance comes along. sorry
for going on.  Janet
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Dionesque,

You ask an excellent question.  I have given it a lot of thought and, by my
way of thinking, two-step verification is a very good thing, by and large.

However, I generally do not recommend it for older people, say those over
75, who only have 1 Apple device.  To my way of thinking, the two-step
system works best when one can have a security code sent to a second trusted
device.

Of course, one can use two-step verification with only 1 Apple device;
however, this requires a third-step, said step opting to have the security
code sent via SMS to a trusted phone number.  This process, for many casual
users, at any age, can be a bit daunting, to say the least.

In the past 12 months, I have received over 10 requests, from various
acquaintances, wanting me to disable two-step verification.  All of these
acquaintances own only 1 Apple product.

As for me?  I use the two-step verification system, along with Touch ID on
all of my primary devices that contain any personal info and I suggest
others do the same.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dionesque
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so
many people are avoiding it??
Greetings,
⭐️ Dionesque 

Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that
Apple recommendedd that I
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it,
but the program took no
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but
I kept ignoring the
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the
unpalatable fact that I
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled
back into the jungle,
never, I hope, to be seen again!

 Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification
when upgrading to, /
using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now"
button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not
have two-step
Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I
avoid activating two-step
verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want
him to, nor do we need him
to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do
so?  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Janet Bell]

Much as I agree with keeping your apple products secure when you have only 
one product and a verification code comes along it is not that easy to get 
it and put it where it needs to go (that is unless you guys no something I 
don't) which is probably the case.  I have been trying to put a new card 
numbewr in my phone but it doesn't want to know it keeps


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com telling me that my card is running out soon.so 
I suppose I will have to wait until sighted assistance comes along. sorry 
for going on.  Janet

Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Dionesque,

You ask an excellent question.  I have given it a lot of thought and, by my 
way of thinking, two-step verification is a very good thing, by and large.


However, I generally do not recommend it for older people, say those over 
75, who only have 1 Apple device.  To my way of thinking, the two-step 
system works best when one can have a security code sent to a second trusted 
device.


Of course, one can use two-step verification with only 1 Apple device; 
however, this requires a third-step, said step opting to have the security 
code sent via SMS to a trusted phone number.  This process, for many casual 
users, at any age, can be a bit daunting, to say the least.


In the past 12 months, I have received over 10 requests, from various 
acquaintances, wanting me to disable two-step verification.  All of these 
acquaintances own only 1 Apple product.


As for me?  I use the two-step verification system, along with Touch ID on 
all of my primary devices that contain any personal info and I suggest 
others do the same.


Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Dionesque

Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it??

Greetings,
⭐️ Dionesque 

Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
I kept ignoring the
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle,

never, I hope, to be seen again!

Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, /

using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" 
button.


I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
have two-step

Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I 
avoid activating two-step
verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want 
him to, nor do we need him
to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
so?  All help will be

greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Harry Bell]

When a verification request pops up on my second device, it often disappears 
before I can locate and tap on it. Where does it go after the banner disappears?
Thanks
Harry

> On 4 Apr 2018, at 01:41, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> Jewel,
>  
> I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
> in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
> the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
> account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could 
> not gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would 
> have to be unlocked for them to see the access code.
> My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
> for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
> fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
> phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
> phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.
> For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
> unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
> people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important 
> and while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the 
> more secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
> password.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>  
> It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
> access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
> exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
> email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times 
> when I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out 
> all those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would 
> rather just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it 
> to him/her!
>  
>      Jewel
> 
>    
>  
> From: Dionesque
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
>  
> Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
> many people are avoiding it?? 
> Greetings,
> 
> ⭐️ Dionesque 
> 
> Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
> 
> I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
> Apple recommendedd that I 
> have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
> but the program took no 
> notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
> I kept ignoring the 
> request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
> unpalatable fact that I 
> don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
> back into the jungle, 
> never, I hope, to be seen again!
> 
>  Jewel
> 
> 
> --
> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Hello Mike,
> 
> It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
> when upgrading to, / 
> using iOS 11.3.
> 
> As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.
> 
> I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
> have two-step 
> Verification, enabled.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
> activating two-step 
> verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
> to, nor do we need him 
> to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
> so?  All help will be 
> greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
> end you have to ignore 
> everything,

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Jewel]

Mark!  Your description of a person who does not, really need 2 step 
varification, i.e, over 75 and 
owning only 1 Apple device is me, so I am relieved to find that I am in no 
great danger by my 
refusing to have it.

 Jewel

--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 4:28 PM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Dionesque,

You ask an excellent question.  I have given it a lot of thought and, by my way 
of thinking, 
two-step verification is a very good thing, by and large.

However, I generally do not recommend it for older people, say those over 75, 
who only have 1 Apple 
device.  To my way of thinking, the two-step system works best when one can 
have a security code 
sent to a second trusted device.

Of course, one can use two-step verification with only 1 Apple device; however, 
this requires a 
third-step, said step opting to have the security code sent via SMS to a 
trusted phone number.  This 
process, for many casual users, at any age, can be a bit daunting, to say the 
least.

 In the past 12 months, I have received over 10 requests, from various 
acquaintances, wanting me to 
disable two-step verification.  All of these acquaintances own only 1 Apple 
product.

As for me?  I use the two-step verification system, along with Touch ID on all 
of my primary devices 
that contain any personal info and I suggest others do the same.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dionesque
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are 
avoiding it??
Greetings,
⭐️ Dionesque 

Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but I 
kept ignoring the
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle,
never, I hope, to be seen again!

 Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, /
using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not have 
two-step
Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step
verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
to, nor do we need him
to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
so?  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
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RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[M. Taylor]

Hello Dionesque,

You ask an excellent question.  I have given it a lot of thought and, by my way 
of thinking, two-step verification is a very good thing, by and large.

However, I generally do not recommend it for older people, say those over 75, 
who only have 1 Apple device.  To my way of thinking, the two-step system works 
best when one can have a security code sent to a second trusted device.  

Of course, one can use two-step verification with only 1 Apple device; however, 
this requires a third-step, said step opting to have the security code sent via 
SMS to a trusted phone number.  This process, for many casual users, at any 
age, can be a bit daunting, to say the least.  

 In the past 12 months, I have received over 10 requests, from various 
acquaintances, wanting me to disable two-step verification.  All of these 
acquaintances own only 1 Apple product.

As for me?  I use the two-step verification system, along with Touch ID on all 
of my primary devices that contain any personal info and I suggest others do 
the same.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dionesque
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it?? 
Greetings,
⭐️ Dionesque 

Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I 
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no 
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but I 
kept ignoring the 
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I 
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle, 
never, I hope, to be seen again!

 Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, / 
using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not have 
two-step 
Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step 
verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
to, nor do we need him 
to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
so?  All help will be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Jewel]

When I replied to Sieghard's message, I, suddenly, realised that I don't  know 
how to * lock my phone.  I lock the screen so that unwanted things don't 
happen, but, of course, locking the screen is  not the same as locking the 
phone.

  Jewel


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Well, if you live in a place where that is safe then that’s great. I also live 
in a very small town but nonetheless I lock my door even if it’s only so my 
insurance will pay if somebody does empty out the place. If they walk in 
through an open door the insurance company who will do anything to avoid having 
to pay will probablyu not do so. If it’s a break-in then they will.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

 

I never lock my phone and, for that matter, I never lock  my house.  The only 
persons kept out by a locked dorr are honest people!  those who want to get in 
just have to break a window!

 

 Jewel  

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:41 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

 

Jewel,

 

I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could not 
gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would have to 
be unlocked for them to see the access code.

My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.

For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important and 
while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the more 
secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
password.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

 

It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times when 
I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out all 
those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would rather 
just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it to him/her!

 

 Jewel

 

   

 

From: Dionesque 

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

 

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it?? 

Greetings,

⭐️ Dionesque 


Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:

  I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I 
  have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no 
  notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
I kept ignoring the 
  request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I 
  don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle, 
  never, I hope, to be seen again!

   Jewel


  --
  From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
  To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hello Mike,

  It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, / 
  using iOS 11.3.

  As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

  I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
have two-step 
  Verification, enabled.

  Mark


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Mike B.]

Hi Sieghard,

During my bout with trying to get rid of 2 factor authenication I learned a 
great deal more about it than I knew before my upgrade fiasco.  Well like I 
said in my post prior to this one, I don't keep anything on my phone of any 
importance, so the pin code / 2 factor authenication is just not a useful 
tool for either my wife or myself.  Anyways, understanding how much people 
do share between devices like you & so many others I can understand the 
necessity of this type of protection.  Now that I understand more about it & 
how it works I wouldn't hesitate to activate it if the circumstances were 
different.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Jewel,



I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to 
type in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I 
use all the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to 
access my account from a new device then even if somebody had my password 
they could not gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone 
which would have to be unlocked for them to see the access code.

My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.

For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my 
house unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not 
very nice people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is 
important and while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently 
one of the more secure methods of protecting your accounts of course 
alongside a strong password.



Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3



It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes: 
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a 
long email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are 
times when I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than 
give out all those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, 
I would rather just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my 
giving it to him/her!



 Jewel







From: Dionesque

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3



Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it??

Greetings,

⭐️ Dionesque 


Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:

  I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I
  have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want 
it, but the program took no
  notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, 
but I kept ignoring the
  request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted 
the unpalatable fact that I
  don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has 
trundled back into the jungle,
  never, I hope, to be seen again!

   Jewel


  --
  From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
  To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hello Mike,

  It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step 
verification when upgrading to, /
  using iOS 11.3.

  As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" 
button.

  I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
have two-step
  Verification, enabled.

  Mark


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
  To: VIPhone
  Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hi All,

  If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I 
avoid activating two-step
  verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want 
him to, nor do we need him
  to.  If this can be avoided, would someone pl

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Mike B.]

Agree whole heartedly.  Plust the fact is that I don't keep anything on my 
phone that someone would find useful, that they couldn't get much more 
easily by hacking my email or something similar.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Jewel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes: 
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a 
long email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are 
times when I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than 
give out all those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, 
I would rather just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my 
giving it to him/her!

 Jewel




From: Dionesque
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it??
Greetings,


⭐️ Dionesque 


Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:


  I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I
  have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want 
it, but the program took no
  notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, 
but I kept ignoring the
  request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted 
the unpalatable fact that I
  don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has 
trundled back into the jungle,
  never, I hope, to be seen again!

   Jewel


  --
  From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
  To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hello Mike,

  It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step 
verification when upgrading to, /
  using iOS 11.3.

  As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" 
button.

  I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
have two-step
  Verification, enabled.

  Mark


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
  To: VIPhone
  Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hi All,

  If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I 
avoid activating two-step
  verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want 
him to, nor do we need him
  to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to 
do so?  All help will be
  greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sennt from my iBarstool.
  Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore
  everything, & click I agree.
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RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, if you live in a place where that is safe then that’s great. I also live 
in a very small town but nonetheless I lock my door even if it’s only so my 
insurance will pay if somebody does empty out the place. If they walk in 
through an open door the insurance company who will do anything to avoid having 
to pay will probablyu not do so. If it’s a break-in then they will.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

I never lock my phone and, for that matter, I never lock  my house.  The only 
persons kept out by a locked dorr are honest people!  those who want to get in 
just have to break a window!

 Jewel

From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Jewel,

I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could not 
gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would have to 
be unlocked for them to see the access code.
My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.
For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important and 
while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the more 
secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
password.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times when 
I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out all 
those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would rather 
just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it to him/her!

 Jewel



From: Dionesque<mailto:diones...@interia.pl>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it??
Greetings,

⭐️ Dionesque 

Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel 
<jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz<mailto:jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>>:
I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but I 
kept ignoring the
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle,
never, I hope, to be seen again!

 Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, /
using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not have 
two-step
Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If 

Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Jewel]

I never lock my phone and, for that matter, I never lock  my house.  The only 
persons kept out by a locked dorr are honest people!  those who want to get in 
just have to break a window!

 Jewel  


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Jewel,

 

I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could not 
gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would have to 
be unlocked for them to see the access code.

My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.

For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important and 
while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the more 
secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
password.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

 

It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times when 
I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out all 
those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would rather 
just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it to him/her!

 

 Jewel

 

   

 

From: Dionesque 

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

 

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it?? 

Greetings,

⭐️ Dionesque 


Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:

  I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I 
  have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no 
  notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
I kept ignoring the 
  request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I 
  don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle, 
  never, I hope, to be seen again!

   Jewel


  --
  From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
  To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hello Mike,

  It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, / 
  using iOS 11.3.

  As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

  I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
have two-step 
  Verification, enabled.

  Mark


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
  To: VIPhone
  Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hi All,

  If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step 
  verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
to, nor do we need him 
  to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
so?  All help will be 
  greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sennt from my iBarstool.
  Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore 
  everything, & click I agree.
  -- 
  The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.

  If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if 
you feel that a member's 
  post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly 
rather than posting on the 
  list itself.

  Your V iPhone list moderato

RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Jewel,

I have two-factor authentication enabled and that does not require me to type 
in any email address or long passwords and my trusted devices which I use all 
the time behave just as always. However, if there is an attempt to access my 
account from a new device then even if somebody had my password they could not 
gain access because they would also need to have my iPhone which would have to 
be unlocked for them to see the access code.
My iPhone is secured with Touch Id and of course there is a 6-digit passcode 
for when I have to reboot my phone or for when for whatever reason the 
fingerprint doesn’t work which is rare. I am out and about too much for my 
phone to not be secured and if I do want somebody else to do something on my 
phone I simply unlock it and then hand it to them.
For me not locking my phone would be not very different from leaving my house 
unlocked when I’m not at home. Given the amount of hacking and not very nice 
people gaining access to all sorts of accounts means security is important and 
while two-factor authentication is not perfect it is currently one of the more 
secure methods of protecting your accounts of course alongside a strong 
password.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jewel
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times when 
I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out all 
those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would rather 
just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it to him/her!

 Jewel



From: Dionesque<mailto:diones...@interia.pl>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it??
Greetings,

⭐️ Dionesque 

Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel 
<jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz<mailto:jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>>:
I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but I 
kept ignoring the
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle,
never, I hope, to be seen again!

 Jewel


--
From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>>
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, /
using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not have 
two-step
Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step
verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
to, nor do we need him
to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
so?  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Jewel]

It is just a great bore.  When I open my iPhone, I want to have immediate 
access to  whatever  I opened it for, not have to mess around for 5 minutes:  
exaggerating a tad, but I am sure that you know what I mean: typing in a long 
email address and then an, equally, complicated password.  There are times when 
I want someone else to have access to my phone, so, rather than give out all 
those details which, we are told, we should keep to ourselves, I would rather 
just hand it over to get on with the initial reason for my giving it to him/her!

 Jewel
 
   


From: Dionesque 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 5:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3


Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it?? 
Greetings,


⭐️ Dionesque 


Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:


  I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I 
  have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no 
  notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
I kept ignoring the 
  request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I 
  don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle, 
  never, I hope, to be seen again!

   Jewel


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  Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
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  Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hello Mike,

  It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, / 
  using iOS 11.3.

  As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

  I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
have two-step 
  Verification, enabled.

  Mark


  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
  Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
  To: VIPhone
  Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

  Hi All,

  If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step 
  verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
to, nor do we need him 
  to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
so?  All help will be 
  greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
  Sennt from my iBarstool.
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Dionesque]

Just out of curiousity: what's so bad about the 2 steps verification that so 
many people are avoiding it?? 
Greetings,

⭐️ Dionesque 

> Am 03.04.2018 um 06:17 schrieb Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz>:
> 
> I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
> Apple recommendedd that I 
> have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
> but the program took no 
> notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but 
> I kept ignoring the 
> request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
> unpalatable fact that I 
> don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
> back into the jungle, 
> never, I hope, to be seen again!
> 
>  Jewel
> 
> 
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> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 6:27 AM
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Hello Mike,
> 
> It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
> when upgrading to, / 
> using iOS 11.3.
> 
> As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.
> 
> I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not 
> have two-step 
> Verification, enabled.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mike B.
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
> To: VIPhone
> Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
> activating two-step 
> verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
> to, nor do we need him 
> to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
> so?  All help will be 
> greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
> Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
> Sennt from my iBarstool.
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> end you have to ignore 
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Jewel]

I downloaded and install IOS11.3 3 nights ago, and despite the notice that 
Apple recommendedd that I 
have 2 step verification, I said that it was my iPhone and I didn't want it, 
but the program took no 
notice of my wish and kept insisting that I enter my email and apple id, but I 
kept ignoring the 
request, and now, not before time either, Apple seems  to have accepted the 
unpalatable fact that I 
don't appreciate its interference and like Nelly the elephant, has trundled 
back into the jungle, 
never, I hope, to be seen again!

  Jewel


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Subject: RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hello Mike,

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, / 
using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not have 
two-step 
Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step 
verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, but I don't want him 
to, nor do we need him 
to.  If this can be avoided, would someone please include steps on how to do 
so?  All help will be 
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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RE: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[M. Taylor]

Hello Mike, 

It is not necessary, nor will you be forced to enable two-step verification 
when upgrading to, / using iOS 11.3.

As for the steps to avoid it, when prompted, just select the "Not Now" button.

I have a 6 S Plus, running iOS 11.3, using an iCloud account that does not have 
two-step Verification, enabled.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mike B.
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2018 6:30 PM
To: VIPhone
Subject: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi All,
 
If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, 
but I don't want him to, nor do we need him to.  If this can be avoided, would 
someone please include steps on how to do so?  All help will be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Dave]

i am still on 11.2.6, and i have never had to have 2 step varification.

Dave.


From: matthew dyer 
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

Hi, 

I don’t think there is a way to do this, but I could be wrong on this as I have 
been using this for some time and have had no prob;lems with it here.

Matthew




  On Apr 1, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Mike B. <mb69ma...@charter.net> wrote:

  Hi All,

  If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, 
but I don't want him to, nor do we need him to.  If this can be avoided, would 
someone please include steps on how to do so?  All help will be greatly 
appreciated.  Thanks much.
  Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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Re: Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

I don’t think there is a way to do this, but I could be wrong on this as I have 
been using this for some time and have had no prob;lems with it here.

Matthew



On Apr 1, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Mike B. 
> wrote:

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If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I avoid 
activating two-step verification?  I know big brother is looking out for me, 
but I don't want him to, nor do we need him to.  If this can be avoided, would 
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Two-Step Verification & iOS 11.3

[Mike B.]

Hi All,

If I update our SE iPhones from iOS 10.33 to the latest iOS 11.3, can I 
avoid activating two-step verification?  I know big brother is looking out 
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