Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

2020-10-16 Thread Wayne Merritt
For me, Face ID is pretty reliable and easy. I don't get perfect scans
every time, but it's no big deal for me to enter my pass code since i
use Braille Screen Input, or touch the numbers on the keypad. I won't
argue that Touch ID is perhaps quicker, but Face ID is not as bad as
many think. The times when I don't get good scans are usually
overnight when I wear my sleep mask, or when my phone is angled wrong
or I am not looking directly at it. It does get frustrating to enter
the pass code every so often, but again, not a deal breaker. Also, I
can use Face ID when my fingers are not clean, which is harder to do
with Touch ID. The hardest thing for me about Face ID is initially
setting it up on my own. I have no issues with scanning my head to
enter my face, but I do have issues with positioning the phone. Once I
get help to position the phone, getting my face entered is pretty
easy.
I also find the newer VoiceOver gestures pretty reliable. NO, they
don't work every time for me, but usually they don't work when I try
to slide my finger too fast. When I slow down, I can get to work every
time.
To each their own though.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/16/20, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh yes, Touch to wake, and also Shake to Undo.
>
> Why, Wayne, do you llike facial ID better than touch ID?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 9:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.
>
> Matthew,
> First off, glad to hear you're updating and moving to the "other side"
> as it were with Face ID. Yes, Face ID can be tricky at times, but I like it
> much better than touch ID, and sometimes wish that all of the Touch ID
> devotees would try Face ID for a week, versus just claiming Touch ID is
> better.
> Regarding your questions, Yes, when you unlock the phone and stay on the
> Lock screen, the phone will not automatically go to the home screen without
> you performing the gesture. When I double tap on a notification after
> unlocking my phone, I'm taken into that app, and then can use the Home slide
> gesture to get back to the Home screen. I think there was at 1 time a
> setting to make the phone unlock and take focus immediately to the Home
> Screen. I don't recall where it was or the name, but perhaps someone else
> knows. I like having to perform the home gesture though since it usually
> doesn't take any time at all for me to get to the home screen or wherever I
> was before. One setting you may wan to change is "touch to wake" which is
> found in Accessibility and Touch settings. This means each time you touch
> the screen the phone will wake up. This can get annoying fast, similar to
> raise to wake in theory. If you like for the phone to wake up each time you
> touch the screen or move it, then that's good.
>
> Have fun,
> Wayne Merritt
>
> On 10/16/20, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
>> Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a
>> bunch of music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12
>> max, since I want the long battery life and the screen size for
>> braille screen input. I'll be upset if touch ID comes back in a phone
>> in the next year, because I will have spent money in this phone, but
>> oh well. My main question is about the lock screen. From working with
>> the phones of the students I teach, I'm comfortable with the gesture
>> of press, slide, and lift to do the home and other things, but was
>> checking on a few other things. I understand that you won't
>> accidentally buy something just when you face towards the phone,
>> because you need to click the side button twice, but will it stay on
>> the lock screen while you're flipping through your notifications until
>> you actually perform the home gesture? If you tap on a notification,
>> I'm assuming you'll need to perform the home gesture to activate that
>> part, then another home gesture to come out to the main screen? Is that
>> correct?
>> Thanks, Matthew
>>
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RE: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

2020-10-16 Thread Carolyn
Oh yes, Touch to wake, and also Shake to Undo. 

Why, Wayne, do you llike facial ID better than touch ID? 

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Wayne Merritt
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 9:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

Matthew,
First off, glad to hear you're updating and moving to the "other side"
as it were with Face ID. Yes, Face ID can be tricky at times, but I like it 
much better than touch ID, and sometimes wish that all of the Touch ID devotees 
would try Face ID for a week, versus just claiming Touch ID is better.
Regarding your questions, Yes, when you unlock the phone and stay on the Lock 
screen, the phone will not automatically go to the home screen without you 
performing the gesture. When I double tap on a notification after unlocking my 
phone, I'm taken into that app, and then can use the Home slide gesture to get 
back to the Home screen. I think there was at 1 time a setting to make the 
phone unlock and take focus immediately to the Home Screen. I don't recall 
where it was or the name, but perhaps someone else knows. I like having to 
perform the home gesture though since it usually doesn't take any time at all 
for me to get to the home screen or wherever I was before. One setting you may 
wan to change is "touch to wake" which is found in Accessibility and Touch 
settings. This means each time you touch the screen the phone will wake up. 
This can get annoying fast, similar to raise to wake in theory. If you like for 
the phone to wake up each time you touch the screen or move it, then that's 
good.

Have fun,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/16/20, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a 
> bunch of music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12 
> max, since I want the long battery life and the screen size for 
> braille screen input. I'll be upset if touch ID comes back in a phone 
> in the next year, because I will have spent money in this phone, but 
> oh well. My main question is about the lock screen. From working with 
> the phones of the students I teach, I'm comfortable with the gesture 
> of press, slide, and lift to do the home and other things, but was 
> checking on a few other things. I understand that you won't 
> accidentally buy something just when you face towards the phone, 
> because you need to click the side button twice, but will it stay on 
> the lock screen while you're flipping through your notifications until 
> you actually perform the home gesture? If you tap on a notification, 
> I'm assuming you'll need to perform the home gesture to activate that part, 
> then another home gesture to come out to the main screen? Is that correct?
> Thanks, Matthew
>
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RE: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

2020-10-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Just curious, why would you not buy a regular 12 with a 6.1 inch screen, still 
larger than your current 5.5 inch screen of your 6S Plus. In fact, you could 
buy an iPhone 11 which would cost youless than half of what the 12 Pro would 
cost and then when Apple releases their phones next year or the year after that 
and they include both in-display Touch Id and Face Id you can get one of them 
and sell your ipHone 11.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Matthew 
Bullis
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a bunch of 
music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12 max, since I want 
the long battery life and the screen size for braille screen input. I'll be 
upset if touch ID comes back in a phone in the next year, because I will have 
spent money in this phone, but oh well. My main question is about the lock 
screen. From working with the phones of the students I teach, I'm comfortable 
with the gesture of press, slide, and lift to do the home and other things, but 
was checking on a few other things. I understand that you won't accidentally 
buy something just when you face towards the phone, because you need to click 
the side button twice, but will it stay on the lock screen while you're 
flipping through your notifications until you actually perform the home 
gesture? If you tap on a notification, I'm assuming you'll need to perform the 
home gesture to activate that part, then another home gesture to come out to 
the main screen? Is that correct?
Thanks, Matthew

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Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

2020-10-16 Thread Richard Turner
The quickest way to find it is at the top of the main settings screen, there is 
a search box. Type the words
 tap to wake in there and it should come up first.




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 16, 2020, at 7:21 AM, Jen .  wrote:

where would I find the tap to wake option in settings

On Oct 16, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:

I think that wake up command is tap to wake, not touch to wake.
When I had the iPhone 11 for work, I found turning off raise to wake, but 
leaving tap to wake on worked very well.
I had to actually tap the phone to wake it up then do the home gesture, just 
touching the screen did not wake it up.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 6:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

Matthew,
First off, glad to hear you're updating and moving to the "other side"
as it were with Face ID. Yes, Face ID can be tricky at times, but I like it 
much better than touch ID, and sometimes wish that all of the Touch ID devotees 
would try Face ID for a week, versus just claiming Touch ID is better.
Regarding your questions, Yes, when you unlock the phone and stay on the Lock 
screen, the phone will not automatically go to the home screen without you 
performing the gesture. When I double tap on a notification after unlocking my 
phone, I'm taken into that app, and then can use the Home slide gesture to get 
back to the Home screen. I think there was at 1 time a setting to make the 
phone unlock and take focus immediately to the Home Screen. I don't recall 
where it was or the name, but perhaps someone else knows. I like having to 
perform the home gesture though since it usually doesn't take any time at all 
for me to get to the home screen or wherever I was before. One setting you may 
wan to change is "touch to wake" which is found in Accessibility and Touch 
settings. This means each time you touch the screen the phone will wake up. 
This can get annoying fast, similar to raise to wake in theory. If you like for 
the phone to wake up each time you touch the screen or move it, then that's 
good.

Have fun,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/16/20, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a
bunch of music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12
max, since I want the long battery life and the screen size for
braille screen input. I'll be upset if touch ID comes back in a phone
in the next year, because I will have spent money in this phone, but
oh well. My main question is about the lock screen. From working with
the phones of the students I teach, I'm comfortable with the gesture
of press, slide, and lift to do the home and other things, but was
checking on a few other things. I understand that you won't
accidentally buy something just when you face towards the phone,
because you need to click the side button twice, but will it stay on
the lock screen while you're flipping through your notifications until
you actually perform the home gesture? If you tap on a notification,
I'm assuming you'll need to perform the home gesture to activate that part, 
then another home gesture to come out to the main screen? Is that correct?
Thanks, Matthew

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Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

2020-10-16 Thread Jen .
where would I find the tap to wake option in settings

> On Oct 16, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I think that wake up command is tap to wake, not touch to wake.
> When I had the iPhone 11 for work, I found turning off raise to wake, but 
> leaving tap to wake on worked very well.
> I had to actually tap the phone to wake it up then do the home gesture, just 
> touching the screen did not wake it up.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
> Merritt
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 6:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.
> 
> Matthew,
> First off, glad to hear you're updating and moving to the "other side"
> as it were with Face ID. Yes, Face ID can be tricky at times, but I like it 
> much better than touch ID, and sometimes wish that all of the Touch ID 
> devotees would try Face ID for a week, versus just claiming Touch ID is 
> better.
> Regarding your questions, Yes, when you unlock the phone and stay on the Lock 
> screen, the phone will not automatically go to the home screen without you 
> performing the gesture. When I double tap on a notification after unlocking 
> my phone, I'm taken into that app, and then can use the Home slide gesture to 
> get back to the Home screen. I think there was at 1 time a setting to make 
> the phone unlock and take focus immediately to the Home Screen. I don't 
> recall where it was or the name, but perhaps someone else knows. I like 
> having to perform the home gesture though since it usually doesn't take any 
> time at all for me to get to the home screen or wherever I was before. One 
> setting you may wan to change is "touch to wake" which is found in 
> Accessibility and Touch settings. This means each time you touch the screen 
> the phone will wake up. This can get annoying fast, similar to raise to wake 
> in theory. If you like for the phone to wake up each time you touch the 
> screen or move it, then that's good.
> 
> Have fun,
> Wayne Merritt
> 
>> On 10/16/20, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
>> Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a 
>> bunch of music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12 
>> max, since I want the long battery life and the screen size for 
>> braille screen input. I'll be upset if touch ID comes back in a phone 
>> in the next year, because I will have spent money in this phone, but 
>> oh well. My main question is about the lock screen. From working with 
>> the phones of the students I teach, I'm comfortable with the gesture 
>> of press, slide, and lift to do the home and other things, but was 
>> checking on a few other things. I understand that you won't 
>> accidentally buy something just when you face towards the phone, 
>> because you need to click the side button twice, but will it stay on 
>> the lock screen while you're flipping through your notifications until 
>> you actually perform the home gesture? If you tap on a notification, 
>> I'm assuming you'll need to perform the home gesture to activate that part, 
>> then another home gesture to come out to the main screen? Is that correct?
>> Thanks, Matthew
>> 
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RE: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

2020-10-16 Thread Richard Turner
I think that wake up command is tap to wake, not touch to wake.
When I had the iPhone 11 for work, I found turning off raise to wake, but 
leaving tap to wake on worked very well.
I had to actually tap the phone to wake it up then do the home gesture, just 
touching the screen did not wake it up.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Friday, October 16, 2020 6:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

Matthew,
First off, glad to hear you're updating and moving to the "other side"
as it were with Face ID. Yes, Face ID can be tricky at times, but I like it 
much better than touch ID, and sometimes wish that all of the Touch ID devotees 
would try Face ID for a week, versus just claiming Touch ID is better.
Regarding your questions, Yes, when you unlock the phone and stay on the Lock 
screen, the phone will not automatically go to the home screen without you 
performing the gesture. When I double tap on a notification after unlocking my 
phone, I'm taken into that app, and then can use the Home slide gesture to get 
back to the Home screen. I think there was at 1 time a setting to make the 
phone unlock and take focus immediately to the Home Screen. I don't recall 
where it was or the name, but perhaps someone else knows. I like having to 
perform the home gesture though since it usually doesn't take any time at all 
for me to get to the home screen or wherever I was before. One setting you may 
wan to change is "touch to wake" which is found in Accessibility and Touch 
settings. This means each time you touch the screen the phone will wake up. 
This can get annoying fast, similar to raise to wake in theory. If you like for 
the phone to wake up each time you touch the screen or move it, then that's 
good.

Have fun,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/16/20, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a 
> bunch of music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12 
> max, since I want the long battery life and the screen size for 
> braille screen input. I'll be upset if touch ID comes back in a phone 
> in the next year, because I will have spent money in this phone, but 
> oh well. My main question is about the lock screen. From working with 
> the phones of the students I teach, I'm comfortable with the gesture 
> of press, slide, and lift to do the home and other things, but was 
> checking on a few other things. I understand that you won't 
> accidentally buy something just when you face towards the phone, 
> because you need to click the side button twice, but will it stay on 
> the lock screen while you're flipping through your notifications until 
> you actually perform the home gesture? If you tap on a notification, 
> I'm assuming you'll need to perform the home gesture to activate that part, 
> then another home gesture to come out to the main screen? Is that correct?
> Thanks, Matthew
>
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Re: Preparing for face ID as a new user.

2020-10-16 Thread Wayne Merritt
Matthew,
First off, glad to hear you're updating and moving to the "other side"
as it were with Face ID. Yes, Face ID can be tricky at times, but I
like it much better than touch ID, and sometimes wish that all of the
Touch ID devotees would try Face ID for a week, versus just claiming
Touch ID is better.
Regarding your questions, Yes, when you unlock the phone and stay on
the Lock screen, the phone will not automatically go to the home
screen without you performing the gesture. When I double tap on a
notification after unlocking my phone, I'm taken into that app, and
then can use the Home slide gesture to get back to the Home screen. I
think there was at 1 time a setting to make the phone unlock and take
focus immediately to the Home Screen. I don't recall where it was or
the name, but perhaps someone else knows. I like having to perform the
home gesture though since it usually doesn't take any time at all for
me to get to the home screen or wherever I was before. One setting you
may wan to change is "touch to wake" which is found in Accessibility
and Touch settings. This means each time you touch the screen the
phone will wake up. This can get annoying fast, similar to raise to
wake in theory. If you like for the phone to wake up each time you
touch the screen or move it, then that's good.

Have fun,
Wayne Merritt

On 10/16/20, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
> Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a bunch of
> music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12 max, since I want
> the long battery life and the screen size for braille screen input. I'll be
> upset if touch ID comes back in a phone in the next year, because I will
> have spent money in this phone, but oh well. My main question is about the
> lock screen. From working with the phones of the students I teach, I'm
> comfortable with the gesture of press, slide, and lift to do the home and
> other things, but was checking on a few other things. I understand that you
> won't accidentally buy something just when you face towards the phone,
> because you need to click the side button twice, but will it stay on the
> lock screen while you're flipping through your notifications until you
> actually perform the home gesture? If you tap on a notification, I'm
> assuming you'll need to perform the home gesture to activate that part, then
> another home gesture to come out to the main screen? Is that correct?
> Thanks, Matthew
>
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2020-10-16 Thread Matthew Bullis
Hello, so I've held onto my 6s plus for five years, since I had a bunch of 
music and books on it. I'm planning on upgrading to the 12 max, since I want 
the long battery life and the screen size for braille screen input. I'll be 
upset if touch ID comes back in a phone in the next year, because I will have 
spent money in this phone, but oh well. My main question is about the lock 
screen. From working with the phones of the students I teach, I'm comfortable 
with the gesture of press, slide, and lift to do the home and other things, but 
was checking on a few other things. I understand that you won't accidentally 
buy something just when you face towards the phone, because you need to click 
the side button twice, but will it stay on the lock screen while you're 
flipping through your notifications until you actually perform the home 
gesture? If you tap on a notification, I'm assuming you'll need to perform the 
home gesture to activate that part, then another home gesture to come out to 
the main screen? Is that correct?
Thanks, Matthew

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