Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to expand / contract. If we look at a chip that's been soldered onto a PCB for example, leaving the device containing said PCB in a cold environment for an extended period

RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Tony
While this is generally true, I once had a hard drive that wouldn't work until it had been the freezer for an hour. Needless to say I copied the data from it as soon as I could. Had to freeze it a few times to get it all. Tony -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
I gotta ask. How did you figure out it had to be in the freezer, and for one hour, at that?! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 4:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: FYI when

Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
Where did you get this information from? --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! - Original Message - From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2015 10:11 AM

RE: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Tony
This was about 15 years ago and I had heard it from several sources, Kim Komando for one. I tried half an hour with no success then tried an hour. The drive was in a ziploc bag to limit condensation. I had a fan on it when connected for the same reason. I also had a system in my garage that

Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
Rather than googling, I'd rather get the source from the person who sent the information. It's always better to get information right from the horse's mouth rather than from a stable worker who heard it from the owner of the horse who heard it from, well, you get the idea. Thanks. --- Be

Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't understand this post. Googling tends to get you closer to the source, not further away from it. By way of example, how many posts have we seen on the list lately claiming that KNFB Reader Technology doesn't support the 4S, which is not the case, and is easily checked by Googling.

Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
You can Google for info, but to be sure of accuracy, as in the case of the KNFB reader, the manufacturer is the best source. They, if anyone knows, should. So I ask for someone's source rather than looking through Google, where you may get several sources, some will be correct and others will

Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
IMHO, you should use multiple sources. For example, you can google and then use common sense to pluck out the accurate information. Googling on KNFB Reader and the iPhone 4S brings up sources like the KNFB Reader home page and the entry in the App Store, which you should obviously trust. Links

Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Charles Rivard
I agree. But saying that you heard something from various sources is how rumors get started, and the best way to prevent the spreading of misinformation, whether intentional or not, and I'm sure that it was not in this case, is to get the source from which he got it. --- Be positive! When

Re: FYI when you bring a new computer or iPhone or other electronic device home how to keep it safe

2015-02-08 Thread Wren Langley
Hi, you can Google it and find out all about it. God bless, Wren Langley Sent from my iPhone On Feb 8, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, For what it's worth there is actually some merrit behind this advice. Remember that changes in temperature cause things to