RE: Native Mail app and folder presentation

[Alan Lemly]

No, I don’t believe this is a bug but what I’d call a deficiency in the 
functionality of the programmed app.

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: 'Crayton Benner' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 1:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

 

I wonder if that is something like a bug maybe? If it is, it’s something to 
report. 





On Aug 24, 2022, at 14:18, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Donna,

 

Thanks for the reply but this doesn’t work. I executed the Edit button as you 
advised from the Mailboxes screen but only certain folders can be reordered 
from this screen and Sent isn’t one of them. I called Apple Accessibility and 
they confirmed that the Sent folder could not be reordered. 

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

 

When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper right, 
swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the mailbox to 
where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.

 

Donna

 

 



Hi List,

 

I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I open 
the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, I’m 
presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the folders 
available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent Items folder 
to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a way to do this. 
I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d run the question 
by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this issue would be 
greatly appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

['Crayton Benner' via VIPhone]

I wonder if that is something like a bug maybe? If it is, it’s something to 
report. 

> On Aug 24, 2022, at 14:18, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Donna,
>  
> Thanks for the reply but this doesn’t work. I executed the Edit button as you 
> advised from the Mailboxes screen but only certain folders can be reordered 
> from this screen and Sent isn’t one of them. I called Apple Accessibility and 
> they confirmed that the Sent folder could not be reordered. 
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Donna Casteen
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 11:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation
>  
> When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper 
> right, swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the 
> mailbox to where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.
>  
> Donna
>  
>>  
>> 
>> Hi List,
>>  
>> I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I 
>> open the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, 
>> I’m presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the 
>> folders available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent 
>> Items folder to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a 
>> way to do this. I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d 
>> run the question by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this 
>> issue would be greatly appreciated.
>>  
>> Alan Lemly
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RE: Native Mail app and folder presentation

[Alan Lemly]

Donna,

 

Thanks for the reply but this doesn’t work. I executed the Edit button as you 
advised from the Mailboxes screen but only certain folders can be reordered 
from this screen and Sent isn’t one of them. I called Apple Accessibility and 
they confirmed that the Sent folder could not be reordered. 

 

Alan Lemly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2022 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

 

When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper right, 
swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the mailbox to 
where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.

 

Donna

 

 



Hi List,

 

I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I open 
the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, I’m 
presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the folders 
available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent Items folder 
to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a way to do this. 
I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d run the question 
by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this issue would be 
greatly appreciated.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Native Mail app and folder presentation

[Donna Casteen]

When you are in the list of mailboxes, tap the edit button in the upper right, 
swipe down to Sent mailbox, you should be able to drag & drop the mailbox to 
where you want it. Tap Done in upper right.

Donna

> 
> 
> Hi List,
>  
> I use the native Mail app on my iPhone 13 Mini running iOS 15.6.1. When I 
> open the Mailboxes Back button in the upper left corner of the Inbox screen, 
> I’m presented with the Inbox at the top, followed by VIP, followed by the 
> folders available in my Gmail account. I want the ability to set the Sent 
> Items folder to show at the top just below the Inbox but cannot figure out a 
> way to do this. I’ve just about concluded that I can’t do it but thought I’d 
> run the question by those on this list before giving up. Any help with this 
> issue would be greatly appreciated.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Native mail app

[Alex Stone]

So would I.

> On 26 Sep 2020, at 19:13, Richard Turner  wrote:
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> I would expand the htread first rather than using the messages item on the 
> rotor.
> So, before opening the thread, flick up a couple of times to expand thread 
> and double tap.
> Then, each message is separated.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
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> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
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> When using threaded messages in mail, how do I I care to voiceover which 
> message I want to reply to?
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Re: Native mail app

[Pete Nalda]

Yeah, you can access a reply button with a message open. 

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> On Sep 26, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I would expand the htread first rather than using the messages item on the 
> rotor.
> So, before opening the thread, flick up a couple of times to expand thread 
> and double tap.
> Then, each message is separated.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
> Herbert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alex 
> Stone
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:05 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Native mail app
> 
> When using threaded messages in mail, how do I I care to voiceover which 
> message I want to reply to?
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RE: Native mail app

[Richard Turner]

I would expand the htread first rather than using the messages item on the 
rotor.
So, before opening the thread, flick up a couple of times to expand thread and 
double tap.
Then, each message is separated.

HTH,


Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
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others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

-Original Message-
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Stone
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2020 11:05 AM
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Subject: Native mail app

When using threaded messages in mail, how do I I care to voiceover which 
message I want to reply to?

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RE: Native Mail App Question

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes you can if your mail provider has that option available.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Wednesday, 1 April 2020 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Native Mail App Question

I wonder if you could log into the web mail version of  your email account and 
set up rules there.  I rarely use webmail, but some providers might allow this 
in their online interface through Safari.

k

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
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Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
own folder?  I’m subscribed to a few groups and it would make things easier.
Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
Best regards,
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Re: Native Mail App Question

[Eric Caron]

Yes, 

I think there is a way to get to rules in mail.  I don’t remember how I 
did it but I think it is through iCloud on the web.  If one can do that using 
safari through a iOS device then you might be able to set up the mail boxes and 
rules that way.  Certainly not an easy process. 

 I really appreciate the problem solving and info on this list.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:33 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:
> 
> I wonder if you could log into the web mail version of  your email account 
> and set up rules there.  I rarely use webmail, but some providers might allow 
> this in their online interface through Safari. 
>  
> k
>  
> From: 'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone  > 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 12:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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>  
>  
> Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
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> Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
> Best regards,
> 
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RE: Native Mail App Question

[R Van Lant]

I wonder if you could log into the web mail version of  your email account and 
set up rules there.  I rarely use webmail, but some providers might allow this 
in their online interface through Safari.

k

From: 'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
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Re: Native Mail App Question

[Shirley Baker]

If you are wanting to create a folder using your iPhone and move email into it, 
this is how you do it. Go to mailboxes and select edit. At the last item is new 
mailbox option. Here you name the folder and activate the location to put the 
folder where you want it. Finish by selecting done at top. If this isn't what 
you were trying to do, then disregard my message.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2020, at 8:59 PM, PRAMIT BHARGAVA  wrote:
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> 
> Hi Danny,
> 
> On a device it is not possible to have mails go into specific folders.
> If you have a computer then yes, there are ways to apply the rules so that 
> incoming emails goes into their respective folders.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Pramit 
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 12:01 AM 'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone 
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>>  
>> 
>> Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
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>> 
>> Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Danney Yates
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Re: Native Mail App Question

[PRAMIT BHARGAVA]

Hi Danny,

On a device it is not possible to have mails go into specific folders.
If you have a computer then yes, there are ways to apply the rules so that
incoming emails goes into their respective folders.

Hope this helps

Pramit

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> *Best regards,*
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Re: Native Mail App Question

[Michael Irons]

One thing you might have an iPhone is junk mail folder and also the archive 
mail folder. Depending on where you are getting your email.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2020, at 6:46 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Right, but it would be nice to be able to set up those kinds of rules on the 
> iPhone.
> More and more people are just using devices and not a computer.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> "There's a nap for that." - an anonymous cat in a window in Portland, Oregon.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
> Caron
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Native Mail App Question
>  
> Hi Danney,
>  
>What exactly are you hoping to have happen?  And, do you have 
> access to your mail through a computer as well as your iPhone? 
>  
> If you want to have messages from a group such as this go to a specific 
> mailbox that can be done with mail rules in the mail app on a Mac computer. 
> Thats how I sort out several mailing lists. 
>  
> I  have done this also in google in the past so I expect most mail 
> applications, at least on the computer can do that. 
>  
> My iPhone in box seems to be following the rules I set up on my computer.  I 
> must admit however that I read most list emails on my computer by going to 
> the mail box.  I don’t usually do that on my iPhone.
>  
> Still the messages are getting filtered correctly when I check my mail on my 
> iPhone.
>  
> Eric Caron 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>  
> Not that I'm aware of.
> I've asked for this for several years.
> Keep asking Apple to include this feature and maybe one day it will show up.
> I'd write Apple accessibility, but maybe more importantly add the feedback 
> through www.apple.com/feedback
> since this is not strictly an accessibility issue, their accessibility people 
> may not have much to say about this, but I figure the more people that hear 
> that this is a desired feature, the better.
>  
> 
> Richard
> "Today's poop is tomorrow's fertilizer." -- Anonymous
> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
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>  
> 
> 
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> Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
> Best regards,
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> Danney Yates
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RE: Native Mail App Question

[Richard Turner]

Right, but it would be nice to be able to set up those kinds of rules on the 
iPhone.
More and more people are just using devices and not a computer.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Eric 
Caron
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail App Question

Hi Danney,

   What exactly are you hoping to have happen?  And, do you have 
access to your mail through a computer as well as your iPhone?

If you want to have messages from a group such as this go to a specific mailbox 
that can be done with mail rules in the mail app on a Mac computer. Thats how I 
sort out several mailing lists.

I  have done this also in google in the past so I expect most mail 
applications, at least on the computer can do that.

My iPhone in box seems to be following the rules I set up on my computer.  I 
must admit however that I read most list emails on my computer by going to the 
mail box.  I don’t usually do that on my iPhone.

Still the messages are getting filtered correctly when I check my mail on my 
iPhone.

Eric Caron




On Mar 31, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Not that I'm aware of.
I've asked for this for several years.
Keep asking Apple to include this feature and maybe one day it will show up.
I'd write Apple accessibility, but maybe more importantly add the feedback 
through 
www.apple.com/feedback<https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apple.com%2Ffeedback=02%7C01%7C%7Cff6dbc517c9b46c4779008d7d5cd5cc6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637212950308898011=QvSHMLKgqz0Gf876VfghzDULm1qWeDQOYfK44qu672g%3D=0>
since this is not strictly an accessibility issue, their accessibility people 
may not have much to say about this, but I figure the more people that hear 
that this is a desired feature, the better.

Richard
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Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
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Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
Best regards,
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Re: Native Mail App Question

[Eric Caron]

Hi Danney,

What exactly are you hoping to have happen?  And, do you have access to 
your mail through a computer as well as your iPhone? 

If you want to have messages from a group such as this go to a specific mailbox 
that can be done with mail rules in the mail app on a Mac computer. Thats how I 
sort out several mailing lists. 

I  have done this also in google in the past so I expect most mail 
applications, at least on the computer can do that. 

My iPhone in box seems to be following the rules I set up on my computer.  I 
must admit however that I read most list emails on my computer by going to the 
mail box.  I don’t usually do that on my iPhone.

Still the messages are getting filtered correctly when I check my mail on my 
iPhone.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 31, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Not that I'm aware of.
> I've asked for this for several years.
> Keep asking Apple to include this feature and maybe one day it will show up.
> I'd write Apple accessibility, but maybe more importantly add the feedback 
> through www.apple.com/feedback 
> since this is not strictly an accessibility issue, their accessibility people 
> may not have much to say about this, but I figure the more people that hear 
> that this is a desired feature, the better.
> 
> 
> Richard
> "Today's poop is tomorrow's fertilizer." -- Anonymous
> (Sent from my iPhone SE)
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
> 
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>> On Mar 31, 2020, at 11:31 AM, 'Yates, Danney' via VIPhone 
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>>  
>> Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
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>> Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Danney Yates
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Re: Native Mail App Question

[Richard Turner]

Not that I'm aware of.
I've asked for this for several years.
Keep asking Apple to include this feature and maybe one day it will show up.
I'd write Apple accessibility, but maybe more importantly add the feedback 
through www.apple.com/feedback
since this is not strictly an accessibility issue, their accessibility people 
may not have much to say about this, but I figure the more people that hear 
that this is a desired feature, the better.


Richard
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Is it possible to direct email from particular senders into it’s 
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Would be appreciative of any guidance on this, if it is an option.
Best regards,
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RE: Native Mail App Question

[Dennis Long]

Maybe turn threading off?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2020 11:45 PM
To: vi-phone list 
Subject: Native Mail App Question

Hi all, 
Once again I’m writing about the native Mail app for IOS. As many of you know, 
I’ve fussed aplenty about focus issues with VoiceOver and other issues that 
contribute to my love/hate relationship with Mail. I won’t belabor those things 
lest I be tempted to launch into yet another rant, and y’all don’t need that.
Okay, having said that, I’m really curious about the user experience with  and 
without Zoom. I’m assuming that many of us know  sighted folks who also use 
Mail. Maybe  some of you out there use Zoom with it instead of VoiceOver. Do 
Zoom users experience annoying focus issues with Mail? When using Zoom and 
opening a previously-unopened message thread, is it common to be placed into 
anything other than the first message? What kinds of issues are sighted users 
experiencing with Mail? These are  just a couple of questions that I’ve 
wondered about as I’ve battled the Mail app with VoiceOver over the past few 
days and I’m curious what people have to say.
Thanks,
Tom 

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Re: Native Mail App Question

[Alex Stone]

My wife uses Zoom, I’ll ask her when she wakes up in the morning.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Tom 
Lange 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 4:45:18 AM
To: vi-phone list 
Subject: Native Mail App Question

Hi all,
Once again I’m writing about the native Mail app for IOS. As many of you know, 
I’ve fussed aplenty about focus issues with VoiceOver and other issues that 
contribute to my love/hate relationship with Mail. I won’t belabor those things 
lest I be tempted to launch into yet another rant, and y’all don’t need that.
Okay, having said that, I’m really curious about the user experience with  and 
without Zoom. I’m assuming that many of us know  sighted folks who also use 
Mail. Maybe  some of you out there use Zoom with it instead of VoiceOver. Do 
Zoom users experience annoying focus issues with Mail? When using Zoom and 
opening a previously-unopened message thread, is it common to be placed into 
anything other than the first message? What kinds of issues are sighted users 
experiencing with Mail? These are  just a couple of questions that I’ve 
wondered about as I’ve battled the Mail app with VoiceOver over the past few 
days and I’m curious what people have to say.
Thanks,
Tom

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Re: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[Bill Outman]

I am not using Braille and see the misspelled words issue you all are 
referencing. I am noticing the issues with focus in 13.2 as well, say, when 
deleting a message or thread, and had reported this when I went to 13.1 and got 
the can’t be reproduced response and was recommended to screen share. This 
behavior had seemed to quiet down by 13.1.3 but is cropping up more again. 
Bill Outman 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 8:26 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Sir,
> Yes it’s a thing and I called Apple today and was first told they knew not of 
> it. When I gave my Apple ID of course he brought up the ticket associated 
> with me at least. Sadly as these things go while screen sharing it wouldn’t 
> manifest at will so I could show the man but I did explain that while it’s 
> still prone to happen it is a smidge so in iOS 13.2 for me. Nevertheless it 
> is an inconvenience.
> Do join in reporting to to Apple Accessibility if you’d be so kind.
> Take good care.
>  
> From: Alan Lemly
> Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:08 PM
> To: 'VIPhone Email List'
> Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
> only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.
>  
> I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it 
> set to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on 
> a message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down 
> and select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
> several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened 
> list as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus 
> when I single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.
>  
> I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
> that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
> either the back button or the scrub gesture.
>  
> This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
> wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love 
> to hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
> writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this 
> list first before doing that.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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Re: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[Robin Frost]

Hi Sir,
Yes it’s a thing and I called Apple today and was first told they knew not of 
it. When I gave my Apple ID of course he brought up the ticket associated with 
me at least. Sadly as these things go while screen sharing it wouldn’t manifest 
at will so I could show the man but I did explain that while it’s still prone 
to happen it is a smidge so in iOS 13.2 for me. Nevertheless it is an 
inconvenience.
Do join in reporting to to Apple Accessibility if you’d be so kind.
Take good care.

From: Alan Lemly 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:08 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

Hi List,

 

I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.

 

I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it set 
to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on a 
message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down and 
select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened list 
as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus when I 
single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.

 

I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
either the back button or the scrub gesture.

 

This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love to 
hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this list 
first before doing that.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[pegkane52]

I am having the same difficulty when trying to focus and email it keeps trying 
to bring me back to the inbox.
I am also having a problem where notifications keep repeating themselves even 
though I haven’t said to only repeat once. I have reported these issues to 
Apple Accessability also.
Peggy

Peggy Sent from my i phone☺️

> On Nov 1, 2019, at 5:45 PM, lang...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Alan,
> I’ve experienced similar issues with the native Mail app since IOS 13 came 
> out.  I reported it to Apple Accessibility and they responded, saying that 
> the problem couldn’t be reproduced.  I suspect that the guy who handled the 
> situation didn’t know what I was talking about and was basically clueless. 
> I’ll report it again, as reading mail can be a royal pain because of the 
> focus issues. 
>  
> I also plan to report Braille display issues as well. I had thought that 
> Braille behavior had improved with 13.2, but there are still a number of 
> issues while using my Braille display, including VO crashing.
>  
> Tom
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
> Lemly
> Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 9:08 AM
> To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
> Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2
>  
> Hi List,
>  
> I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
> only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.
>  
> I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it 
> set to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on 
> a message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down 
> and select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
> several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened 
> list as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus 
> when I single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.
>  
> I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
> that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
> either the back button or the scrub gesture.
>  
> This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
> wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love 
> to hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
> writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this 
> list first before doing that.
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[lange85]

Hi,

The “misspelled Words” item in the rotor is definitely a bug.  Here’s what 
someone at Applevis has to say about it.

 

There are numerous places system-wide where the Misspelled Words item will be 
in the VoiceOver rotor's Action menu where this functionality is not available 
(examples include when viewing a web page in Safari and when reading an email 
in Mail). In some of these it is the default position of the VoiceOver rotor, 
which is a frustrating hit on the user experience - for example when opening a 
webpage in Safari and expecting to be able to immediately flick down to 
navigate by heading.

 

Someone else on this list reported that it also occurs in the NFB Newsline app 
when trying to navigate through newspapers by heading. I can definitely verify 
this, as I experienced it this morning. 

 

Tom

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby 
Hill
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

 

Hi All,

Alan, I haven't notice your thread issue because I usually open a thread with a 
one finger double tap and read through the messages that way. ⠠⠓⠪⠐⠑⠂ I know 
what you mean when exiting from a message or for me it occurs on a thread of 
messages. When I return to the ⠍⠑⠎⠎⠁⠛⠑ list there is random behavior. Sometimes 
it does focus on the message or thread I have just closed, but at other times 
the focus is at the top or somewhere else on the message list. (Sometimes I 
whimsically wonder if it has something ⠞⠕ do with the way I am holding the 
⠏⠓⠐⠕⠲ :)) It is annoying, and I need to report it also. I was hoping that 13.2 
would fix it, but it hasn't.

The other weird thing that happens for me is that when I am reading through a 
thread message by message, when I turn the rotor ⠞⠕ to go to the "messages" 
setting I always have to pass through "misspelled words." I have looked all 
over to try to get rid of the "misspelled words" in the rotor with no luck. 
Neither "Messages" nor "misspelled words" appear in the rotor list, so I can't 
change their order. I searched in settings for "misspelled words" and couldn't 
find any reference to it. Am I missing something or is this is just a bug?

Thanks for any help!

Take care and have fun!

Debby  

On Nov 1, 2019 4:19 PM, matthew dyer mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

 

This is a bug which I think someone reported, but it doesn’t heart to report as 
well. 

 

I am currently using outlook for iOS and it works just fine here.

Matthew

 

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  on behalf of 
Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:08 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List'
Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2 

 

Hi List,

 

I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.

 

I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it set 
to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on a 
message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down and 
select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened list 
as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus when I 
single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.

 

I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
either the back button or the scrub gesture.

 

This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love to 
hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this list 
first before doing that.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[lange85]

Hi Alan,

I’ve experienced similar issues with the native Mail app since IOS 13 came out. 
 I reported it to Apple Accessibility and they responded, saying that the 
problem couldn’t be reproduced.  I suspect that the guy who handled the 
situation didn’t know what I was talking about and was basically clueless. I’ll 
report it again, as reading mail can be a royal pain because of the focus 
issues.  

 

I also plan to report Braille display issues as well. I had thought that 
Braille behavior had improved with 13.2, but there are still a number of issues 
while using my Braille display, including VO crashing. 

 

Tom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 9:08 AM
To: 'VIPhone Email List' 
Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

 

Hi List,

 

I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.

 

I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it set 
to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on a 
message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down and 
select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened list 
as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus when I 
single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.

 

I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
either the back button or the scrub gesture.

 

This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love to 
hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this list 
first before doing that.

 

Thanks in advance for your help.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[Debby Hill]

Hi All,
Alan, I haven't notice your thread issue because I usually open a thread with a one finger double tap and read through the messages that way. ⠠⠓⠪⠐⠑⠂ I know what you mean when exiting from a message or for me it occurs on a thread of messages. When I return to the ⠍⠑⠎⠎⠁⠛⠑ list there is random behavior. Sometimes it does focus on the message or thread I have just closed, but at other times the focus is at the top or somewhere else on the message list. (Sometimes I whimsically wonder if it has something ⠞⠕ do with the way I am holding the ⠏⠓⠐⠕⠲ :)) It is annoying, and I need to report it also. I was hoping that 13.2 would fix it, but it hasn't.
The other weird thing that happens for me is that when I am reading through a thread message by message, when I turn the rotor ⠞⠕ to go to the "messages" setting I always have to pass through "misspelled words." I have looked all over to try to get rid of the "misspelled words" in the rotor with no luck. Neither "Messages" nor "misspelled words" appear in the rotor list, so I can't change their order. I searched in settings for "misspelled words" and couldn't find any reference to it. Am I missing something or is this is just a bug?
Thanks for any help!
Take care and have fun!
Debby  
On Nov 1, 2019 4:19 PM, matthew dyer  wrote:



Hi,




This is a bug which I think someone reported, but it doesn’t heart to report as well. 




I am currently using outlook for iOS and it works just fine here.

Matthew








Get Outlook for iOS

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Alan Lemly 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:08 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List'
Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2
 





Hi List,
 
I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.
 
I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it set to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on a message group
 with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down and select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened list as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar
 screen jumps and loss of focus when I single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.
 
I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using either the back button
 or the scrub gesture.
 
This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love to hear it or if
 this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this list first before doing that.
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Alan Lemly


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Re: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

[matthew dyer]

Hi,

This is a bug which I think someone reported, but it doesn’t heart to report as 
well.

I am currently using outlook for iOS and it works just fine here.
Matthew



Get Outlook for iOS


From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Alan Lemly 
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 12:08 PM
To: 'VIPhone Email List'
Subject: Native Mail app focus issues under iOS 13.2

Hi List,

I think this subject might have been previously discussed so I apologize as I 
only upgraded to iOS 13.x on Tuesday of this week.

I use the native Mail app for reading my Gmail account emails and I have it set 
to display messages in threaded mode. I'm noticing that when focus is on a 
message group with multiple messages, that when I single finger swipe down and 
select expand to open the list of messages in the group that focus jumps 
several screens up or down rather than leaving me at the top of the opened list 
as it did in iOS 12.4.1. I get similar screen jumps and loss of focus when I 
single finger swipe to contract the opened thread.

I'm also noticing that when I open a single email that isn't part of a group, 
that focus isn't on it any longer when I go back to my message list using 
either the back button or the scrub gesture.

This loss of focus makes reading emails on my iPhone 8 a royal pain and I'm 
wondering if others are experiencing it. If there is a workaround, I'd love to 
hear it or if this is a known issue, I'd love to know that too. I plan on 
writing Apple Accessibility to report this but I wanted to check with this list 
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Thanks in advance for your help.

Alan Lemly

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Re: Native Mail App or GMail App?

[Alan Lemly]

Dani,

I can't compare the native mail app to Gmail because I've been using the native 
mail app for the six plus years I've used an iPhone. I've learned it and it 
meets my needs. And you are the only person who can decide which one works 
better for you.

Alan Lemly  

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> On Oct 27, 2019, at 10:54 PM, dani pagador  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Everyone.
> I'm wondering whether it's better to use the native mail app, or the
> GMail app? I have both on my phone, but am thinking of deleting the
> GMail app, since I can't seem to use BSI to reply to received e-mail.
> 
> Would appreciate any thoughts on which app is preferred, and the
> thoughts behind your choice.
> 
> Thanks,
> Dani
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Re: Native Mail App

[Paul Richard McGann]

scott,

you need to go to junk and find them there as sometimes they pop up in junk 
folder by mistakes. I am waiting for apple accessiblity to responing.


rich


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Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2017 7:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Native Mail App

Hi,  Sorry for a late response.  I am using the native mail app for my 
email.  I have noticed that sometimes that I am missing some emails once a 
while.  I have a question for you all.  How can I stop the mail native app 
for missing some emails?  Does this has to do with the fetch?  Is there a 
way that I can turn the fetch offf?  Thank you,  Scott Dollar


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 30, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
wrote:


If you go into accounts and password, you can turn push on for your Gmail 
account and you will get pretty immediate downloads for all new mail.


But no, Apple has not set the inbox up to delete all at once, but you can 
double tap on the edit button in the upper right corner, then double tap 
on the emails you want to delete and they will say selected then when you 
hit delete it will delete all the selected messages.


Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kelby Carlson

Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Native Mail App

Also, because I have a Gmail account I can't get live fetching so don't
get up-to-date notifications when I get mail.



On 9/30/2017 2:35 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
I never thought about using any other app.

The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!

On Sep 30, 2017, at 2:22 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


How many of you use the iOS mail app over third party apps, and what 
would you say are its advantages?



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Re: Native Mail App

[dollar031]

Hi,  Sorry for a late response.  I am using the native mail app for my email.  
I have noticed that sometimes that I am missing some emails once a while.  I 
have a question for you all.  How can I stop the mail native app for missing 
some emails?  Does this has to do with the fetch?  Is there a way that I can 
turn the fetch offf?  Thank you,  Scott Dollar 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> If you go into accounts and password, you can turn push on for your Gmail 
> account and you will get pretty immediate downloads for all new mail.
> 
> But no, Apple has not set the inbox up to delete all at once, but you can 
> double tap on the edit button in the upper right corner, then double tap on 
> the emails you want to delete and they will say selected then when you hit 
> delete it will delete all the selected messages.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Kelby Carlson
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Anthony Vece <ajv...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Native Mail App
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> Also, because I have a Gmail account I can't get live fetching so don't 
> get up-to-date notifications when I get mail.
> 
> 
>> On 9/30/2017 2:35 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
>> I never thought about using any other app.
>> 
>> The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!
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RE: Native Mail App

[Richard Turner]

If you go into accounts and password, you can turn push on for your Gmail 
account and you will get pretty immediate downloads for all new mail.

But no, Apple has not set the inbox up to delete all at once, but you can 
double tap on the edit button in the upper right corner, then double tap on the 
emails you want to delete and they will say selected then when you hit delete 
it will delete all the selected messages.

Richard


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Subject: Re: Native Mail App

Also, because I have a Gmail account I can't get live fetching so don't 
get up-to-date notifications when I get mail.


On 9/30/2017 2:35 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:
> I never thought about using any other app.
>
> The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!
>
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Re: Native Mail App

[Kelby Carlson]

Also, because I have a Gmail account I can't get live fetching so don't 
get up-to-date notifications when I get mail.



On 9/30/2017 2:35 PM, Anthony Vece wrote:

I never thought about using any other app.

The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!


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How many of you use the iOS mail app over third party apps, and what would you 
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Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Native Mail App

[Kelby Carlson]

I am not able to move all of my email in my inbox into an archive folder 
at once. Since I'm on a lot of email lists I get a lot of email I don't 
need to read but can't manage it efficiently.



On 9/30/2017 2:24 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I like the way the native mail app handles all my Email accounts.
The only other app I tried was Outlook, and frankly, I personally prefer the 
native mail app.  It doesn't matter why.

More importantly, is there something about the native mail app you dislike?

Richard


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How many of you use the iOS mail app over third party apps, and what would you 
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Re: Native Mail App

[Kay Malmquist]

Really!  I will definitely check this out.  Thanks much.

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  From: Richard Turner
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 3:07 PM
  Subject: Re: Native Mail App


  Before opening the thread, flick up to expand thread and double tap.
  Then the messages will be separated and you can delete the ones you want.
  HTH,
  Richard
  M

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wrote:


In IOS 10 how do you delete just one message in a thread?  I have found 
that
to be very different than in 9.

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Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 1:35 PM
    Subject: Re: Native Mail App


I never thought about using any other app.

The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!


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Before opening the thread, flick up to expand thread and double tap.
Then the messages will be separated and you can delete the ones you want.
HTH,
Richard
M

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In IOS 10 how do you delete just one message in a thread?  I have found that
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I never thought about using any other app.

The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!

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Subject: Re: Native Mail App


I never thought about using any other app.

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Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8!!!

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Re: Native Mail App

[Anthony Vece]

I never thought about using any other app.

The majority of my mail is gmail and, I still use the native app.


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RE: Native Mail App

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I completely agree with Richard, the native Mail app is done very nicely, it is 
very easy to use multiple accounts and especially since iOS 10 Apple has made 
it very easy also to deal with threaded messages, attach files and all that. I 
also have tried Outlook although I have not gone back to it since they fixed 
the very serious limitation which did not allow you to add or edit contacts, 
Outlook is also a very nice app, but the Mail app is there and it's in my view 
still better. 

Regards,
Sieghard

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Richard Turner
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I like the way the native mail app handles all my Email accounts.
The only other app I tried was Outlook, and frankly, I personally prefer the 
native mail app.  It doesn't matter why.

More importantly, is there something about the native mail app you dislike?

Richard


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How many of you use the iOS mail app over third party apps, and what would you 
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RE: Native Mail App

[Richard Turner]

I like the way the native mail app handles all my Email accounts.
The only other app I tried was Outlook, and frankly, I personally prefer the 
native mail app.  It doesn't matter why.

More importantly, is there something about the native mail app you dislike?

Richard


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