No argument with you on that one. I think I did say that I had seen it in
settings and a couple of other places in the actual operating system. However,
most of the places that I see yet are in apps. In fact, when I wrote to Apple
about this they asked me for the apps that I was having problems
Anker, Amazon Basics and many others on Amazon.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightening Cable & Charging Brick for my iPhones?
Who makes the braided nylon cable,
It shouldn’t have to do anything with the BackTap function. With or without it
on, my SE2020 has no problems on pressing the button to sleep. Have you tried
restarting your phone?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> El 6 oct 2020, a la(s) 4:55 p.m., Kimberly
>
Yes, under your Apple Id it's pretty bad, also on the Today screen or whatever
they call it nowadays I, for example, have a widget for my bank here in Canada
which shows my balances and it's always just stuck on my business account and
no amount of swiping or touching the screen elsewhere
Morning ladies and gents,
I just received this,
Note the time / date of this for the USA will be October 13th (Tuesday next
week,
And probably somewhere around mid day to 2pm.
I just can’t exactly remember the time difference.
sF
From: Apple
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 12:04 pm
To: Simon
Hi all,
I'm trying to find a protective case for my Apple watch. I would like a
bumper case and a glass screen protector that will fit the case. It can be
two separate items or a case with a glass screen protector built right in.
A final requirement is that the case can be used with watch
I have a case / surround for my apple watch series 4,
I can’t remember where I got it from but the name action proof was involved
I believe I got it off amazon but that was a couple of years ago now so my
memory isn’t 100% accurate at this point.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 4:08 PM Anna Dresner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On my SE, on the screen where you can enter a 6-digit number, there's a
> Passcode Options button. Double-tap that to get all the passcode options.
>
> Best,
> anna
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2020, at 8:18 PM, Richard Turner
> wrote:
>
> It could
So Richad,
Form this I take it
We shouldn’t use voiceover recognition to drive or perform neuro surgery?
That’s a shame,
I was carrying out a frontal lobotomy tomorrow on a person in a café!.
H well, I’ll go back to reading the writing on the pavements.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf
I think what you heard about was the new VoiceOver Recognition which might be
useful in isolated situations, but is currently mostly annoying.
I turned it all off.
You can enable it and add it in the rotor to toggl: on and off but I prefer it
off for now.
Here is what it says in settings,
I’m not quite following your question, but wi-fi calling is when you want to
make phone calls and exchange text messaging when you have a weak or no
cellular connection. It won’t impact your ability to use data over wi-fi or
cellular. If having it on is a problem, I suppose you could turn it
I haven’t found a significant use for it yet, but it is kind of interesting
sometimes to hear about the pictures and icons you have on various screens. I
was watching a video and I think I stumbled across it working with closed
captioning. I could see where this would be useful to some people.
I mean, iOS 13 sucked. iOS 12 sucked. iOS 11 sucked. I'm starting to see
why people hold off on updating until a few release versions into the
current year's release. Maybe 14.2 will be better.
Devin Prater
sent from Gmail.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 12:56 AM Jenny Bomareto <
Well, I respectivly disagree. I am sharing my perspective as a long time iOS
beta tester. iOS 14 is different but it deenatly does not suck. Sure, iOS
10 had its share of bugs in the early beta(s), but it got better. iOS 14 has
bugs too, as do all software releases, the only way to fix that
As you probably know, as I'm on the Public Beta User's list, I tested 14
too. I said in my email something like "You know, 14 sucks, 13 sucked, 12
sucked..." meaning people's perception of it, because that's what this is.
It doesn't really cuck, unless you have that focus issue, but people come
up
Perhaps if people commented more constructively their opinion would be taken
more seriously.
What on earth IOS sucks is supposed to mean is beyond me!
Malcolm Parfitt
> On 6 Oct 2020, at 15:35, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
>
> Just appreciate every day that we’ve talking phones, without needing
Well, I can tell you that iOS 14 has resolved tuition is that I feel are very
important. One is the fact that I can use the Mail app again. The focus issues
appear to have been resolved. That’s a major improvement. I also use Bluetooth
hearing aids which is why I upgraded to iOS 14 in the first
Of course they have, at least one totally blind person working there, maybe
two. But they're working there to build the stuff, I think. I don't know
what they exactly do, but they seem to depend on us a good deal for testing.
Devin Prater
sent from Gmail.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 9:35 AM Gerardo
Any of the Anker or Amazon Basics cables are fine, I like the braded nylon
cables as they seem to be a bit more durable.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Fazil
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2020 12:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightening Cable & Charging Brick for my
Yep.
Magic tap works as it used to do.
Now I also have back tap (double tap) to answer/hang up.
In fact it just emulates a magic tap and it works just like double
tapping with two fingers on the screen.
It works nicely with phone calls, facetime, Teams, whatsapp etc and
also to play/pause
Also we have to always remember that us as blind consumers for apple reperzent
like maybe 1 percent of there market and let’s not forget that apple’s main job
is to make money. It is all well and good to say yes state this or that to
apple and hope that they fix it but there is no garintee that
A good place to start would be to keep track of what people have been reporting
on this list for the last 3 weeks and to read the information available on
Applevis.com about iOS 14, it's been spelled out many times what the major
issues are.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of CJ &
iOS 14 has many VoiceOver improvement(s). In the early betas, I went exploring
in the accessibility settings. I could not say anything, because of the
nondisclosure agreement, but since it’s out, image recognition is a game
changerer. Their is an app here in Canada called COVID alert. It is
That is sinnical thinking. Apple has publicly and exclusively told AppleVis
users how they’re committeded to Accessibility. They are a wonderful company,
and by that logic, Vispero’s primary job is to make money as well. Be great
full Apple builds VoiceOver and their other assistive
Hi Sieghard,
Can you explain what you mean by the focus issue? There has been so much mail,
I somehow missed it. I had terrible focus issues in Mail, where I spend most of
my time in IOS 13, but I’m happy to report that I have gone back to mail as
it’s really working well in IOS 14. Also,
Some people always look at the cup as half empty and not half full and to them
everything sucks.
I must admit, however, that the focus issue in iOS 14 is extremely annoying and
in some cases causes huge accessibility issues.
I called Apple Accessibility this morning to ask about something and
We are a tiny percentage, 1% is much too high, but to use this as justification
is flawed, Apple "chose" to make iOS and iDevices accessible so the
responsibility is on them to do their best to accomplish this. I am by far not
one who bashes Apple without good reason and I understand no
I haven’t as yet upgraded to IOS 14. Rather than saying it sucks, perhaps
listers could say what is wrong with it so I can then decide whether to upgrade
or not?
Alison
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: 06 October 2020 15:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Contact Apple if it bothers you. Every time there is an update things are
changed or improved or even broken, but Apple is not the only company that
changes things with their programs. There are bugs and changes in every piece
of software. If it bothers you that much contact Apple and tell them
In iOS 14.0.1 on my iPhone se 2020, I often find that, at the end of a phone
call conducted on speaker, the screen has gone black and the magic tap will not
work until I’ve pressed the home button to wake the screen. This is odd because
I have screen lock set to never. Does anyone else find
Just appreciate every day that we’ve talking phones, without needing to, as
before, buy separtely a Talks or Mobile Accessibility license. Remember too
that software is software, thus it’s very important to have more Beta testers,
but overall, for Apple to take more into account feedback from
I’m getting alittle tired of this too. People jump on the first release of an
IOS and then whine when there are bugs. If you want more stable versions of
ios, wait till it gets more stable. I plan on going to IOS 14 in maybe March or
April.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
I'm running iOS 14.0.1 and I do not have this problem.
I use wifi calling as well and all works fine here on my XR.
The only issue I have on iOS 14 is the VO focus bug which is a bit annoying.
Apart from that iOS 14 is a pretty good release.
I always perform a factory reset of my phone when I have
In that case try going to the bottom of the screen by touching the bottom
somewhere and then work backwards.
I’m sure they will fix this focus issue in updates to come out soon,
Take my word on this.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020
Reggie,
Not true,
This is happening in features of the apple IOS 14 platform also.
It's aknown issue and apple are working on it.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of regina
alvarado
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 8:28 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Hi,
I've been seeing this subject and ignoring it, but since I agree and
have some issues with it myself, thought I'd chime in on how my Husband
I think IOS14 sucks in case there's a fix for them.
The first thing we hate about it, I don't think can be fixed as I
remember seeing that this
Hello everyone I generally do not yet the latest version of iOS when it comes
out. I wait for later releases. I keep my updates on manual so that I can
decide when I want to update. I doing this I’ve been able to stay out of places
of iOS that had lots of problems.
Sent from my iPhone
> On
hello,
be a beta tester and stop wining about this focus issue. as a beta
tester, I did not experience this issue you menchined with connecting
to the support representative. even if I had, it would be a breech of
my nondiscloser agreement. as a beta tester, nobody is allowed to tell
people who
That is what I am hoping.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Devin Prater
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 9:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!!
I mean, iOS 13 sucked. iOS 12 sucked. iOS 11 sucked.
Hi everyone,
I’ve noticed that since upgrading to iOS 14 my iPhone doesn’t always go to
sleep when I press the sleep button. Has anyone else seen this behavior?
Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of
justice.—Martin Luther King Jr.
I have focus issues when trying to verify my Google account in Safari in
Google Forms. I'll have to report that one, I can't share the ... well I
probably can share the link to the form to Apple accessibility but they
wouldn't have to verify their account or whatever. Yeah, sys-diagnose
should
Hi, list.
I have iPhone8 with iOS14.0.1.
I get a flow of twitter notifications from one of the Presidential
candidate, how can I stop that flow of twitter, please?
I have multiple twitter-clients on this phone but I don't use iPhone for my
tweets, that is why I don't know which twitter-client
I think that the focus issue is mostly in apps that have not been made properly
to work with iOS 14. I had problems with one or two pages of the iOS, but where
I’m having a terrible time is on my bank. I only have a Icon that takes me to
my bank so I don’t know if it’s an app or online, but it
Hello,
What iPhone model do you use? I have an iPhone SE 2020, I have never had this
problem. I am running iOS 14.2 apublic beta, nd all summer when I beta tested
iOS 14, this issue never happen to me. I suggest reporting it to Apple
Accessibility, and then, beta testing and finally reporting
Yeah, I would not be wanting to give that up.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!!
I’m not quite following your
I have two sighted friends, who despise 14, keep telling me not to update, I
say, well, I don't have automatic like you do, so I'm in charge. I'll see what
happens with the next one.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
That is right, and that is why,k I'm still on 13.7.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 11:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS 14 sucks!!
A good place to start
Who makes the braided nylon cable, and where are they available for purchase?
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Lightening
I've seen it on page 0, the page dedicated to widgets, so I don't think it's
just an issue with apps supporting IOS 14.
--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf
> Of regina alvarado
> Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:28
Hmmm, aren't you breaching the non disclosure agreement by telling us what bugs
you did not find? You said below you were not allowed to tell anything about
the betas. So maybe Apple should come after you too?
Having said that, I commend you for what I know is hard work doing beta
testing.
And if you want a glaring example of the focus issue, go to Settings, your
name, Media and Purchases and start swiping around.
Alan Lemly
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020
I have an SE 2020 as well. I’m wondering if it might have something to do with
the back tap function so I have disabled that and I will see if the problem is
any better.
Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence of
justice.—Martin Luther
You say all these operating systems sucked,
Why do you then keep coming back to apple products?
A way you could help make things better for everyone including yourself
Would be to get in to the Beta Testing programs an feedback to apple what you
are finding wrong with the operating systems.
I’ve got a vacume cleaner,
It sucks!
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin
Prater
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 3:30 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!!
As you probably know, as I'm on the Public Beta User's list, I tested 14 too. I
said in my email
It’s a new apple vacume cleaner,
They’re calling the Os for it 14 sucks.
I’d suggest rather than these comments people put the feed back app in the
betas to good use and tell apple of the issues rather than just bitch about
them on an email list.
I have troubles with the IOS version but
I agree that a statement like IOS 14 sucks isn’t very constructive, but just
because Apple says they’re committed to accessibility doesn’t give them a free
pass. They still need to be responsive to problems reported during and after
beta. I pay just as much for an iPhone as a sighted person
Yes they have blind staff and I know one of them is seemingly a developer
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Devin
Prater
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2020 3:39 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 14 sucks!!
Of course they have, at least one totally blind person working
Or sorry to say it,
If you don’t like bugs in your software,
Get away from computing and technology,
Even tv firmware has bugs,
Jus tbecause you don’t see it or have it jumping out at you doesn’t mean the
bugs aren’t there.
It’s a fact of software life,
If there were no bugs there would be
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