Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-13 Thread kelby carlson 
It looks like if you are running an older version of iOS, the incompatible 
update will not show up. A good reason to keep automatic updates off, though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2019, at 12:35 PM, regina alvarado  
> wrote:
> 
> What I have heard second hand is that developers are having a lot of problem 
> going to 13. A lot of them are just doing what a lot of users are doing and 
> waiting for fixes to help them. Only what I heard, not saying it is true for 
> all developers. A lot of overhauls in 13 and so on. All in all, I have had 
> minimal difficulties with 13 and so on. 
>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
> 
> 
> Hi Mary,
>  
> Maybe whatever version of Overcast one has on a device running iOS 12 will 
> continue to work, but maybe then you won’t get updates.
> I am actually not just spreading an idea with no basis in fact, I was simply 
> repeating what it said in the “What’s New” for the latest update from 2 days 
> ago which I am quoting below and which you can read for yourself in the App 
> Store description for Overcast:
>  
> What’s New - Oct 11, 2019 
> Version 2019.10
> - Dark Mode support
> - Fixes for iOS 13
> iOS 13 is now required.
>  
> A bit further down in the app description it says:
> Compatibility
> Requires iOS 13.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod touch.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13
>  
> I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
> getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
> Mary
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
> IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have 
> to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older 
> versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on 
> devices that don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here 
> from developers how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android 
> when they have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.
> 
>  
> 
> On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
> app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
> some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why 
> this is.
> The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Sieghard
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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-13 Thread regina alvarado 
What I have heard second hand is that developers are having a lot of problem 
going to 13. A lot of them are just doing what a lot of users are doing and 
waiting for fixes to help them. Only what I heard, not saying it is true for 
all developers. A lot of overhauls in 13 and so on. All in all, I have had 
minimal difficulties with 13 and so on. 
> On Oct 13, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 


Hi Mary,
 
Maybe whatever version of Overcast one has on a device running iOS 12 will 
continue to work, but maybe then you won’t get updates.
I am actually not just spreading an idea with no basis in fact, I was simply 
repeating what it said in the “What’s New” for the latest update from 2 days 
ago which I am quoting below and which you can read for yourself in the App 
Store description for Overcast:
 
What’s New - Oct 11, 2019 
Version 2019.10
- Dark Mode support
- Fixes for iOS 13
iOS 13 is now required.
 
A bit further down in the app description it says:
Compatibility
Requires iOS 13.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod touch.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13
 
I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary

 
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.

 

On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.
The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.
 
Regards,
 
Sieghard
 
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RE: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
There comes a point when every developer drops support for older software and 
to me this makes sense.
I do find it surprising, however, why a developer would drop support for iOS 12 
less than 4 weeks after iOS 13 came out and when certainly iOS 13 has not yet 
been adopted as widely as it will be in another 3 or 4 months. I guess as long 
as somebody with iOS 12 or earlier simply doesn’t get the app update and can 
continue to use the app (I am talking about apps in general and not necessarily 
just Overcast now) then that is OK, what would be not so good is if somebody 
got the update on their iOS 12 device and the app would no longer work 
afterwards. Dark Mode, for example, is an iOS 13 feature so it of course makes 
sense that it wouldn’t work in iOS 12 or earlier, but it is not like when Apple 
announced only 64 bit apps would be supported going forward and there came a 
point when apps which had been abandoned by their developer just didn’t work 
any more or disappeared from the app store.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 8:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Mary Otten 
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13


I never said that developers won't support older versions of IOS, but when 
we're talking about a few percentage points of the market, I just pointed out 
why some developers would find it economically advantageous to drop support for 
older versions of IOS. 
https://medium.com/marino-software/why-you-should-stop-supporting-older-os-versions-ba55115dd16


On 10/12/19 10:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
A couple of the apps I have on my phone have recently had updates. And they 
have talked about providing fixes for things on iOS 10 and 11. So, Christopher, 
I think you’re out in left field here on this one.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.


On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.
The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

Regards,

Sieghard

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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-13 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
I never said that developers won't support older versions of IOS, but 
when we're talking about a few percentage points of the market, I just 
pointed out why some developers would find it economically advantageous 
to drop support for older versions of IOS. 
https://medium.com/marino-software/why-you-should-stop-supporting-older-os-versions-ba55115dd16



On 10/12/19 10:28 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
A couple of the apps I have on my phone have recently had updates. And 
they have talked about providing fixes for things on iOS 10 and 11. 
So, Christopher, I think you’re out in left field here on this one.



Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain > wrote:


Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest 
version of IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save 
when they don't have to test their apps on older versions of IOS or 
provide support for older versions of IOS. All the app developers 
lose is those customers running on devices that don't support the 
latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers how 
expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they 
have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.



On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a 
popular Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I 
find it interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even 
iOS 12 already and I wonder why this is.


The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
mentioned.


Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-13 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Mary,

Maybe whatever version of Overcast one has on a device running iOS 12 will 
continue to work, but maybe then you won’t get updates.
I am actually not just spreading an idea with no basis in fact, I was simply 
repeating what it said in the “What’s New” for the latest update from 2 days 
ago which I am quoting below and which you can read for yourself in the App 
Store description for Overcast:

What’s New - Oct 11, 2019
Version 2019.10
- Dark Mode support
- Fixes for iOS 13
iOS 13 is now required.

A bit further down in the app description it says:
Compatibility
Requires iOS 13.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad and iPod touch.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.


On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.
The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

Regards,

Sieghard

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RE: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-12 Thread Cristobal Muñoz 
I’d venture to guess that the update is only shown/offered to those who are 
upgraded to 13.x and can support it. That or it just hasn’t rolled out to 
everyone yet. I too am still on iOS 12.4.1 and haven’t received any Overcast 
update. Not worried about it though since it seems that all it is for is dark 
mode stuff anyway. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2019 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

 

I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary

 

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On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have to 
test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older versions 
of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on devices that 
don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here from developers 
how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to 
worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.

 

On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular Podcast 
app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it interesting how 
some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already and I wonder why this 
is.

The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently mentioned.

 

Regards,

 

Sieghard

 

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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-12 Thread Mary Otten 
I have a Overcast on my phone running iOS 12. So I’m not sure where you’re 
getting the idea you must have iOS 13.
Mary


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> On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version of 
> IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have 
> to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older 
> versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on 
> devices that don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here 
> from developers how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android 
> when they have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.
> 
> 
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>> On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular 
>> Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it 
>> interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already 
>> and I wonder why this is.
>> The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
>> mentioned.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-12 Thread Mary Otten 
A couple of the apps I have on my phone have recently had updates. And they 
have talked about providing fixes for things on iOS 10 and 11. So, Christopher, 
I think you’re out in left field here on this one.


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> On Oct 12, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
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> IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they don't have 
> to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide support for older 
> versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those customers running on 
> devices that don't support the latest version of IOS. You frequently here 
> from developers how expensive and time consuming it is to develop on Android 
> when they have to worry about so many devices and so many versions of Android.
> 
> 
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>> On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular 
>> Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it 
>> interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 already 
>> and I wonder why this is.
>> The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
>> mentioned.
>>  
>> Regards,
>>  
>> Sieghard
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Re: If you like Overcast it seems you now need iOS 13

2019-10-12 Thread Christopher Chaltain 
Well, Apple pretty much forces everyone to upgrade to the latest version 
of IOS, and imagine how much Apple and app developers save when they 
don't have to test their apps on older versions of IOS or provide 
support for older versions of IOS. All the app developers lose is those 
customers running on devices that don't support the latest version of 
IOS. You frequently here from developers how expensive and time 
consuming it is to develop on Android when they have to worry about so 
many devices and so many versions of Android.



On 10/12/19 8:09 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:


I just thought I mention this, a recent update to Overcast, a popular 
Podcast app, mentions iOS 13 is now required for this app. I find it 
interesting how some apps drop support apparently for even iOS 12 
already and I wonder why this is.


The same seems to be true for this ScripTalk app which was recently 
mentioned.


Regards,

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