RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-28 Thread Ron Pelletier 
Hi Mary,

A friend of mine found out after enabling 2 factor authentication that his 
Apple TV third generation didn't work with it.  He had to disable it.

Ron & Danvers  

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, with 
this system. So I was wondering what they were.
 That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
> 
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
> text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
> getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
> not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know 
> it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because 
> I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without I 
> suspect.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two factor 
> authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that included a 
> link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. This link 
> will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested in the 
> details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I gave 
> them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code that 
> will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with my 
> Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down the 
> road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying 
> to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so 
> no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to 
> start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me consider 
> revoking my two factor authentication.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-28 Thread Robin Frost 

Hi,
thank you I was worried about myself for a minute there (laughs).
I'm glad I hadn't stated it or imagined it wrongly.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Vicky Collins

Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 6:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

You are indeed correct. The old two-step verification uses the recovery key, 
while the two-factor authentication does not have that option. I made the 
change to the 2FA a few months ago.


- Original Message -
From: Robin Frost  <robin...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?




Hi,
Wow in iOS 10.0.2 I think it was at the time no such option was presented
during phone setup at all; nor did the lovely Apple rep who guided me
through my very rare spell of panic indicate that such could be used
anymore.  To further confuse matters I thought there were two variations 
of

Apple's tfa and the older form made use of such a key but it was my
understanding that had you switched to the newer incarnation therein such
was gone.  If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct.
Either way it can be quite confusing and sadly it's why many just don't
bother with it. I'll probably turn it on as soon as my second iDevice
arrives hopefully next week.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication issues?

I used my recovery key just a couple of weeks ago and the option was there
for me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

Hi,
the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when upgrading
from one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my number but 
since

my phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn't get it to
sign into iCloud properly. So I had to set up phone as new, skipping 
iCloud

sign in go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone from cloud
after the fact. their system used to have a recovery key you could use for
times when you're off line but they've taken that away so much as it pains
me for the moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one Apple
device you shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it made for 
some
heart racy kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's my 
practice

to use it wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it causes the
user more stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't
have any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code
doesn't come or whatever, essentially making your two factor 
authentication

unusable and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk
about some major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow 
up

message, with this system. So I was wondering what they were.
That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
>
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you
> get a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading
> numbers and getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time
> out I have opted not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given
> absolutely no choice!  I know it is supposed to be more secure, but
> for me it has been distressing because I generally can't get it done 
> fast

> enough to make it count.
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those
> without I suspect.
>
>
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
>
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two
> factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that
> included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I
> made. This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am
> interested in the details of the problems that arise with two factor
> authentication. I gave them my mobile phone number where they could
> send the six digit code that will be needed when and if I get a new
> Apple device where I log in with

Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-28 Thread Vicky Collins 
You are indeed correct. The old two-step verification uses the recovery key, 
while the two-factor authentication does not have that option. I made the 
change to the 2FA a few months ago.

- Original Message -
From: Robin Frost  <robin...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:57 pm
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

>
>
> Hi,
> Wow in iOS 10.0.2 I think it was at the time no such option was presented 
> during phone setup at all; nor did the lovely Apple rep who guided me 
> through my very rare spell of panic indicate that such could be used 
> anymore.  To further confuse matters I thought there were two variations of 
> Apple's tfa and the older form made use of such a key but it was my 
> understanding that had you switched to the newer incarnation therein such 
> was gone.  If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct.
> Either way it can be quite confusing and sadly it's why many just don't 
> bother with it. I'll probably turn it on as soon as my second iDevice 
> arrives hopefully next week.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> I used my recovery key just a couple of weeks ago and the option was there 
> for me.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Robin Frost
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> Hi,
> the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when upgrading 
> from one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my number but since 
> my phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn't get it to 
> sign into iCloud properly. So I had to set up phone as new, skipping iCloud 
> sign in go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone from cloud 
> after the fact. their system used to have a recovery key you could use for 
> times when you're off line but they've taken that away so much as it pains 
> me for the moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one Apple 
> device you shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it made for some 
> heart racy kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's my practice 
> to use it wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it causes the 
> user more stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.
> Robin
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't 
> have any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code 
> doesn't come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication 
> unusable and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk 
> about some major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up 
> message, with this system. So I was wondering what they were.
> That would be a problem.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you
> > get a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading
> > numbers and getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time
> > out I have opted not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given
> > absolutely no choice!  I know it is supposed to be more secure, but
> > for me it has been distressing because I generally can't get it done fast 
> > enough to make it count.
> > Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those
> > without I suspect.
> >
> >
> > Rose Combs
> > roseco...@q.com
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of Mary Otten
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> > Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> >
> > When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two
> > factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that
> > included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I
> > made. This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am
> > interested in the details of the problems that arise with two facto

Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Robin Frost 

Hi,
Wow in iOS 10.0.2 I think it was at the time no such option was presented 
during phone setup at all; nor did the lovely Apple rep who guided me 
through my very rare spell of panic indicate that such could be used 
anymore.  To further confuse matters I thought there were two variations of 
Apple's tfa and the older form made use of such a key but it was my 
understanding that had you switched to the newer incarnation therein such 
was gone.  If I'm wrong I'm sure someone will correct.
Either way it can be quite confusing and sadly it's why many just don't 
bother with it. I'll probably turn it on as soon as my second iDevice 
arrives hopefully next week.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication issues?

I used my recovery key just a couple of weeks ago and the option was there 
for me.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin Frost

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

Hi,
the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when upgrading 
from one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my number but since 
my phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn’t get it to 
sign into iCloud properly. So I had to set up phone as new, skipping iCloud 
sign in go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone from cloud 
after the fact. their system used to have a recovery key you could use for 
times when you're off line but they've taken that away so much as it pains 
me for the moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one Apple 
device you shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it made for some 
heart racy kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's my practice 
to use it wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it causes the 
user more stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't 
have any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code 
doesn't come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication 
unusable and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk 
about some major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up 
message, with this system. So I was wondering what they were.

That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:

I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you
get a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading
numbers and getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time
out I have opted not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given
absolutely no choice!  I know it is supposed to be more secure, but
for me it has been distressing because I generally can't get it done fast 
enough to make it count.

Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those
without I suspect.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Two factor authentication issues?

When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two
factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that
included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I
made. This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am
interested in the details of the problems that arise with two factor
authentication. I gave them my mobile phone number where they could
send the six digit code that will be needed when and if I get a new
Apple device where I log in with my Apple ID. I certainly don't want
some unsolvable problem happening down the road. So what are the
issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying to enable two
factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so no
problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying
to start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me
consider revoking my two factor authentication.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
I used my recovery key just a couple of weeks ago and the option was there for 
me.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

Hi,
the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when upgrading from 
one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my number but since my 
phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn’t get it to sign 
into iCloud properly. So I had to set up phone as new, skipping iCloud sign in 
go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone from cloud after the 
fact. their system used to have a recovery key you could use for times when 
you're off line but they've taken that away so much as it pains me for the 
moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one Apple device you 
shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it made for some heart racy 
kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's my practice to use it 
wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it causes the user more 
stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, with 
this system. So I was wondering what they were.
That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
>
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you 
> get a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading 
> numbers and getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time 
> out I have opted not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given 
> absolutely no choice!  I know it is supposed to be more secure, but 
> for me it has been distressing because I generally can't get it done fast 
> enough to make it count.
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those 
> without I suspect.
>
>
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
>
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two 
> factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that 
> included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I 
> made. This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am 
> interested in the details of the problems that arise with two factor 
> authentication. I gave them my mobile phone number where they could 
> send the six digit code that will be needed when and if I get a new 
> Apple device where I log in with my Apple ID. I certainly don't want 
> some unsolvable problem happening down the road. So what are the 
> issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying to enable two 
> factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so no 
> problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying 
> to start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me 
> consider revoking my two factor authentication.
> Mary
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Helga Schreiber 
Hi all! How are you all? This is a great question! So I activated two-factor 
authentication as well! I had it for two weeks. So this is the issue  that I 
encounter. So when I install the IOS 10.1 update, adn ehn I got to icloud adn 
to set it up, it ask me for my password, and then it gave me a message saying 
waiting for approval, yu need to loggign to icloud and approve this iPhone 6S. 
Thsi was giving me a lot of stress since I logging to iCloud  on my Mac, and  
other ios devices, but it did not do anything! It is good but it gives em more 
problems than helping. Me. So the next day, I turn off two-factor 
authentication guys! I wasn't able   approve my iPhone,and I need icloud since. 
I will get aniPhone 7 this week. I really don't know why I could not approve my 
iPhone. So I doubletap on aprove later. So that means my icloud settings was 
not complete and so on. So I end up turning off two-factor authentication.  Do 
you hve any idea wy I could not approve it? I did not know where to go to 
approve it. With this many peopel did not help me ata ll! I look forward in 
hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

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> On Oct 26, 2016, at 5:28 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> I feel more informed about two-factor authentication after reading the Apple 
> Support article found here:
>  
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204915
>  
> I'll post the full text of the article after my signature. To avoid an issue 
> with setting up a new iPhone, I think I'll hold onto my old iPhone to use it 
> as the authorized device until the new one is set up. I also have a home 
> phone number I can provide as a fallback.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> Two-factor authentication for Apple ID
> 
> Two-factor authentication is an extra layer of security for your Apple ID 
> designed to ensure that you're the only person who can access your account, 
> even if someone knows your password.
> 
> How it works
> 
> With two-factor authentication, your account can only be accessed on devices 
> you trust, like your iPhone, iPad, or Mac. When you want to sign in to a new 
> device for the first time, you'll need to provide two pieces of 
> information—your password and the six-digit verification code that's 
> automatically displayed on your trusted devices. By entering the code, you're 
> verifying that you trust the new device. For example, if you have an iPhone 
> and are signing into your account for the first time on a newly purchased 
> Mac, you'll be prompted to enter your password and the verification code 
> that's automatically displayed on your iPhone. 
> 
> Because your password alone is no longer enough to access your account, 
> two-factor authentication dramatically improves the security of your Apple ID 
> and all the personal information you store with Apple.
> 
> Once signed in, you won’t be asked for a verification code on that device 
> again unless you sign out completely, erase the device, or need to change 
> your password for security reasons. When you sign in on the web, you can 
> choose to trust your browser, so you won’t be asked for a verification code 
> the next time you sign in from that computer.
> 
> Trusted devices
> 
> A trusted device is an iPhone, iPad, iPod touch with iOS 9 and later, or Mac 
> with OS X El Capitan and later that you've already signed in to using 
> two-factor authentication. It’s a device we know is yours and that can be 
> used to verify your identity by displaying a verification code from Apple 
> when you sign in on a different device or browser.
> 
> Trusted phone numbers
> 
> A trusted phone number is a number that can be used to receive verification 
> codes by text or phone call. You must verify at least one trusted phone 
> number to enroll in two-factor authentication. You should also consider 
> verifying other phone numbers you can access, such as a home phone, or a 
> number used by a family member or close friend. You can use these numbers if 
> you temporarily can't access your own devices.
> 
> Verification codes
> 
> A verification code is a temporary code sent to your trusted device or phone 
> number when you sign in to a new device or browser with your Apple ID. You 
> can also get a verification code from Settings on your trusted device.
> 
> A verification code is

RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Louise Johnson 
Hi everyone I also did and I called the Apple accessibility line and I had a 
person help me take this away and I ansered three questions. I now don't have 
to worry about it. Just remember your answers. I will share you did have a few 
different things you could choose from and I am very happy with the help I got. 
I am a slower user and they were very kind and worked with me to get it done.

Louise and princess Kiara 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: October 26, 2016 1:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Two factor authentication issues?

Mary,

I hear you and I'm a bit worried about the two-factor authentication as well. I 
also got put on it after upgrading to iOS 10.1 if I understood the Apple email 
I received correctly. It had a link as you mentioned to turn it off but when I 
clicked on it, I got some message about having to change my password so I left 
it alone. I normally handle 2-factor authentication using a text to receive an 
authorization code but if I'm setting up a new iPhone, I'm scratching my head 
as to how this is going to work. Hopefully, it will offer an email option.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, with 
this system. So I was wondering what they were.
 That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
> 
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
> text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
> getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
> not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know 
> it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because 
> I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without I 
> suspect.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two factor 
> authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that included a 
> link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. This link 
> will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested in the 
> details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I gave 
> them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code that 
> will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with my 
> Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down the 
> road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying 
> to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so 
> no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to 
> start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me consider 
> revoking my two factor authentication.
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Mary Otten 
Well, I do have an iPad, so I'm thinking that the message would come through on 
the iPad even if I was setting up an iPhone. Also, as somebody else noted, I 
tend not to shut off my old phone until the new one is actually set up. So I 
guess the message would come across on the old phone. As long as there isn't a 
problem with receipt of the messages, I guess I'll be OK.
Mary


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> On Oct 26, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Mary,
> 
> I hear you and I'm a bit worried about the two-factor authentication as well. 
> I also got put on it after upgrading to iOS 10.1 if I understood the Apple 
> email I received correctly. It had a link as you mentioned to turn it off but 
> when I clicked on it, I got some message about having to change my password 
> so I left it alone. I normally handle 2-factor authentication using a text to 
> receive an authorization code but if I'm setting up a new iPhone, I'm 
> scratching my head as to how this is going to work. Hopefully, it will offer 
> an email option.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
> any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
> come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
> and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
> major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, 
> with this system. So I was wondering what they were.
> That would be a problem.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
>> text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
>> getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
>> not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know 
>> it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because 
>> I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
>> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without 
>> I suspect.  
>> 
>> 
>> Rose Combs
>> roseco...@q.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
>> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
>> 
>> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two 
>> factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that 
>> included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. 
>> This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested 
>> in the details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I 
>> gave them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code 
>> that will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with 
>> my Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down 
>> the road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're 
>> trying to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already 
>> done, so no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually 
>> trying to start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me 
>> consider revoking my two factor authentication.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
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RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Alan Lemly 
I feel more informed about two-factor authentication after reading the Apple 
Support article found here:

 

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204915

 

I'll post the full text of the article after my signature. To avoid an issue 
with setting up a new iPhone, I think I'll hold onto my old iPhone to use it as 
the authorized device until the new one is set up. I also have a home phone 
number I can provide as a fallback.

 

Alan Lemly

 


Two-factor authentication for Apple ID


Two-factor authentication is an extra layer of security for your Apple ID 
designed to ensure that you're the only person who can access your account, 
even if someone knows your password.


How it works


With two-factor authentication, your account can only be accessed on devices 
you trust, like your iPhone, iPad, or Mac. When you want to sign in to a new 
device for the first time, you'll need to provide two pieces of 
information—your password and the six-digit verification code that's 
automatically displayed on your trusted devices. By entering the code, you're 
verifying that you trust the new device. For example, if you have an iPhone and 
are signing into your account for the first time on a newly purchased Mac, 
you'll be prompted to enter your password and the verification code that's 
automatically displayed on your iPhone. 

Because your password alone is no longer enough to access your account, 
two-factor authentication dramatically improves the security of your Apple ID 
and all the personal information you store with Apple.

Once signed in, you won’t be asked for a verification code on that device again 
unless you sign out completely, erase the device, or need to change your 
password for security reasons. When you sign in on the web, you can choose to 
trust your browser, so you won’t be asked for a verification code the next time 
you sign in from that computer.


Trusted devices


A trusted device is an iPhone, iPad, iPod touch with iOS 9 and later, or Mac 
with OS X El Capitan and later that you've already signed in to using 
two-factor authentication. It’s a device we know is yours and that can be used 
to verify your identity by displaying a verification code from Apple when you 
sign in on a different device or browser.


Trusted phone numbers


A trusted phone number is a number that can be used to receive verification 
codes by text or phone call. You must verify at least one trusted phone number 
to enroll in two-factor authentication. You should also consider verifying 
other phone numbers you can access, such as a home phone, or a number used by a 
family member or close friend. You can use these numbers if you temporarily 
can't access your own devices.


Verification codes


A verification code is a temporary code sent to your trusted device or phone 
number when you sign in to a new device or browser with your Apple ID. You can 
also get a verification code from Settings on your trusted device 
 .

A verification code is different from the device passcode 
  you enter to unlock your iPhone, iPad, 
or iPod touch. 

Description: 


Turn on two-factor authentication for your Apple ID


Two-factor authentication is currently available to iCloud users with at least 
one device that's using iOS 9 or OS X El Capitan or later. Learn more 
 .

You can follow the steps below to turn on two-factor authentication.

On your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch with iOS 9 or later:

1.  Go to Settings > iCloud > tap your Apple ID.
2.  Tap Password & Security.
3.  Tap Turn on Two-Factor Authentication.

On your Mac with OS X El Capitan or later:

1.  Go to Apple () menu > System Preferences > iCloud > Account Details.
2.  Click Security.
3.  Click Turn on Two-Factor Authentication.

Description: 


What to remember when you use two-factor authentication


Two-factor authentication significantly improves the security of your Apple ID. 
After you turn it on, signing into your account will require both your password 
and access to your trusted devices or trusted phone number. To keep your 
account as secure as possible and help ensure you never lose access, there are 
a few simple guidelines you should follow: 

*   Remember your Apple ID password.
*   Use a device passcode on all your devices.
*   Keep your trusted phone number(s) up to date.
*   Keep your trusted devices physically secure.

Description: 


Manage your account


You can manage your trusted phone numbers, trusted devices, and other account 
information from your Apple ID account page  .


Keep your trusted phone numbers up to date


To use two-factor authentication, you need at least one trusted phone number on 
file where you can receive verification codes. You can update your trusted 
phone numbers when you follow these steps:

1.  Go to your Apple ID account page.

RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Alan Lemly 
Mary,

I hear you and I'm a bit worried about the two-factor authentication as well. I 
also got put on it after upgrading to iOS 10.1 if I understood the Apple email 
I received correctly. It had a link as you mentioned to turn it off but when I 
clicked on it, I got some message about having to change my password so I left 
it alone. I normally handle 2-factor authentication using a text to receive an 
authorization code but if I'm setting up a new iPhone, I'm scratching my head 
as to how this is going to work. Hopefully, it will offer an email option.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, with 
this system. So I was wondering what they were.
 That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
> 
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
> text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
> getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
> not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know 
> it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because 
> I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without I 
> suspect.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two factor 
> authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that included a 
> link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. This link 
> will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested in the 
> details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I gave 
> them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code that 
> will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with my 
> Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down the 
> road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying 
> to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so 
> no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to 
> start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me consider 
> revoking my two factor authentication.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Vicky Collins 

Hi Mary and All,

even if you don't choose to use that link, you are still able to 
log into your Apple account page and turn off the two factor 
authentication.


I've not exactly had a problem setting up a new device with it 
turned on, but I have had to tell it to send me a text message 
with the six digit code, rather than use the code just sent to 
the phone number.  I haven't yet, though, set up a brand new 
device with iOS 10.  For some unknown reason, even when logging 
into some of Apple support pages with my current device, 
receiving the code via text message works better than getting it 
via an alert on the phone.  Sometimes, even if I get the code 
with the alert, and then double check that I've entered it 
correctly, I still get an error and have to use the text message 
way.



- Original Message -
From: "Robin Frost" <robin...@gmail.com
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 14:20:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

;Hi,
the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when 
upgrading
from one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my 
number but since
my phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn't 
get it to
sign into iCloud properly.  So I had to set up phone as new, 
skipping iCloud
sign in go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone 
from cloud
after the fact.  their system used to have a recovery key you 
could use for
times when you're off line but they've taken that away so much as 
it pains
me for the moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one 
Apple
device you shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it 
made for some
heart racy kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's 
my practice
to use it wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it 
causes the

user more stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although 
I don't
have any vision.  When I am worried about our glitches such that 
the code
doesn't come or whatever, essentially making your two factor 
authentication
unusable and locking you out on your new device.  There have been 
some talk
about some major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the 
follow up

message, with this system.  So I was wondering what they were.
That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> 
wrote:


I think any time you use a device and need to enter your 
password you get
a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading 
numbers and
getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I 
have opted
not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no 
choice!  I
know it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been 
distressing
because I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it 
count.
Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than 
those

without I suspect.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Two factor authentication issues?

When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and 
enabled two
factor authentication.  Subsequently, Apple sent me a 
notification that
included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the 
changes I
made.  This link will go away as of sometime next week.  
Therefore, I am
interested in the details of the problems that arise with two 
factor
authentication.  I gave them my mobile phone number where they 
could send
the six digit code that will be needed when and if I get a new 
Apple
device where I log in with my Apple ID.  I certainly don't want 
some
unsolvable problem happening down the road.  So what are the 
issues? Is it

something that happens when you're trying to enable two factor
authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so no 
problem.  If it
is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to start 
using a new
device, that's another matter, and would make me consider 
revoking my two

factor authentication.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Robin Frost 

Hi,
the only time I encountered an issue with this was recently when upgrading 
from one iPhone to another the system texted the code to my number but since 
my phone wasn't fully up and running and operational I couldn’t get it to 
sign into iCloud properly. So I had to set up phone as new, skipping iCloud 
sign in go to apple ID and turn off TFA and then restore phone from cloud 
after the fact. their system used to have a recovery key you could use for 
times when you're off line but they've taken that away so much as it pains 
me for the moment I have it turned off.  If one has more than one Apple 
device you shouldn't necessarily encounter this but for me it made for some 
heart racy kind of moments so for now it's off but usually it's my practice 
to use it wherever and whenever I can but I admit sometimes it causes the 
user more stress than those it's trying to deter from evil doing.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't 
have any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code 
doesn't come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication 
unusable and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk 
about some major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up 
message, with this system. So I was wondering what they were.

That would be a problem.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:

I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get 
a text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I 
know it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing 
because I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.
Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those 
without I suspect.



Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Two factor authentication issues?

When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two 
factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that 
included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I 
made. This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am 
interested in the details of the problems that arise with two factor 
authentication. I gave them my mobile phone number where they could send 
the six digit code that will be needed when and if I get a new Apple 
device where I log in with my Apple ID. I certainly don't want some 
unsolvable problem happening down the road. So what are the issues? Is it 
something that happens when you're trying to enable two factor 
authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so no problem. If it 
is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to start using a new 
device, that's another matter, and would make me consider revoking my two 
factor authentication.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Mary,

I use "Authy" which is an app that provides codes for two-factor 
authentication. You have to set up the accounts which support this and then 
whenever you need a code you just open the app, select the accunt you need a 
code for and it displays a 6-digit code. However, you do have to be somewhat 
quick since the code is only there for 30 seconds, then it changes and the next 
code is displayed for 30 seconds etc. Of course you still have the option to 
get a code texted to you even if you set your primary method to use an app and 
also not all services support these apps. Authy is just one option, Google 
Authenticator is another and I think Microsoft also has one. Microsoft Id's 
support this if you enable two-factor authentication and so does Google and 
Dropbox. Apple of course uses it's own method and Roboform, the password 
manager I use, sends codes by email to the registered email address.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 10:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, with 
this system. So I was wondering what they were.
 That would be a problem.
Mary


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> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs <roseco...@q.com> wrote:
> 
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
> text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
> getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
> not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know 
> it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because 
> I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without I 
> suspect.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two factor 
> authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that included a 
> link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. This link 
> will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested in the 
> details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I gave 
> them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code that 
> will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with my 
> Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down the 
> road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying 
> to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so 
> no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to 
> start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me consider 
> revoking my two factor authentication.
> Mary
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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Mary Otten 
I'm not worried about getting the code and entering it, although I don't have 
any vision. When I am worried about our glitches such that the code doesn't 
come or whatever, essentially making your two factor authentication unusable 
and locking you out on your new device. There have been some talk about some 
major problems, not specified, unless I didn't see the follow up message, with 
this system. So I was wondering what they were.
 That would be a problem.
Mary


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> On Oct 26, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
> 
> I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
> text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
> getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted 
> not to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know 
> it is supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because 
> I generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
> Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without I 
> suspect.  
> 
> 
> Rose Combs
> roseco...@q.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
> Subject: Two factor authentication issues?
> 
> When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two factor 
> authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that included a 
> link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. This link 
> will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested in the 
> details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I gave 
> them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code that 
> will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with my 
> Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down the 
> road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying 
> to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so 
> no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to 
> start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me consider 
> revoking my two factor authentication.
> Mary
> 
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RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Rose Combs 
Microsoft and I have been at odds because they send me a code to change 
password and by the time I read it, try to get back to where it is needed, mix 
up or forget it go back again, it expires!  For my part, if I can get away 
without it I will but then, my phone is usually nearby, in my purse or pocket, 
on my desk or nightstand and I live alone.  I am very protective of it, I don't 
key the 6-digit or even the 4-digit code in place because it is annoying to 
have to keep putting it in every time I need to use the phone or applications 
on the phone.  

As I said it hardly leaves my side unless I am home alone doors locked, and 
know no one else is here.  Only thing is, often take it out of a pocket while 
in the bathroom so it does not fall where it should not be, leave it on the 
vanity then have to call it or have someone call it so I can find it, usually 
same place every time so now I look there first!  
I don't recommend this for everyone, in fact I don't recommend it for most 
people!  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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Subject: Re: Two factor authentication issues?

Hi Mary

Especially for Microsoft and Windows users besides their apple devices, be 
aware that programs like windows live mail do apparently not give access 
anymore to icloud mail accounts while they require 2steps verificcation and 
this is the case with my wlm.

Regards
Davy

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From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Two factor authentication issues?

When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two 
factor authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that 
included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. 
This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested 
in the details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I 
gave them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code 
that will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with 
my Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down 
the road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're 
trying to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already 
done, so no problem. If it is a problem that happens when you're actually 
trying to start using a new device, that's another matter, and would make me 
consider revoking my two factor authentication.
Mary


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RE: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Rose Combs 
I think any time you use a device and need to enter your password you get a 
text with a code.  Since I never do well with these, reading numbers and 
getting back to enter them, forgetting them and then time out I have opted not 
to use 2-factor anything unless I am given absolutely no choice!  I know it is 
supposed to be more secure, but for me it has been distressing because I 
generally can't get it done fast enough to make it count.  
Others may love it, probably those with some vision more than those without I 
suspect.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


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Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 8:57 AM
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Subject: Two factor authentication issues?

When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two factor 
authentication. Subsequently, Apple sent me a notification that included a 
link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. This link 
will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested in the 
details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I gave them 
my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code that will be 
needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with my Apple ID. I 
certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down the road. So what 
are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're trying to enable two 
factor authentication? In that case, mine is already done, so no problem. If it 
is a problem that happens when you're actually trying to start using a new 
device, that's another matter, and would make me consider revoking my two 
factor authentication.
Mary


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Re: Two factor authentication issues?

2016-10-26 Thread Davy Cuppens 

Hi Mary

Especially for Microsoft and Windows users besides their apple devices, be 
aware that programs like windows live mail do apparently not give access 
anymore to icloud mail accounts while they require 2steps verificcation and 
this is the case with my wlm.


Regards
Davy

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From: Mary Otten

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 5:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; mac4thebl...@freelists.org
Subject: Two factor authentication issues?

When I updated my iPad mini two recently, I went ahead and enabled two 
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included a link, which, if I activated, will let me undo the changes I made. 
This link will go away as of sometime next week. Therefore, I am interested 
in the details of the problems that arise with two factor authentication. I 
gave them my mobile phone number where they could send the six digit code 
that will be needed when and if I get a new Apple device where I log in with 
my Apple ID. I certainly don't want some unsolvable problem happening down 
the road. So what are the issues? Is it something that happens when you're 
trying to enable two factor authentication? In that case, mine is already 
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