Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Eric Oyen]

I agree with this.
back when I had a windows smartphone on T-Mobile, I had to spend about $480 for 
mobile speak from code factory. the phone was not accessible any other way and 
the android flavors at that time had interface issues that broke accessibility 
rather routinely.  So, when Apple not only spread the cost of R across the 
entire user base, but brought accessibility into the mainstream, they changed 
the entire playing field. Basically, Google (the creators of Android OS) were 
forced to do the same thing. So, apple forced the market to accede to user 
wishes.

Sure, Apple made a ton of money at it. So what? that is the function of 
business, to provide a service or good and at a profitable price.

-eric

On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:46 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

> Frankly I am rather tired of the Apple bashing that appears to be fashionable 
> among  some members.
> 
> Not all that long ago you had to spend around £150 to add  Talks to make a 
> Nokia device accessible.  If you changed your phone another £50 transfer cost 
> was required to transfer Talks to your new device.
> 
> An Apple phone costs us no more or less than slighted people you cannot say 
> that about many products!  Take Windows alone, access software  costs as much 
> or more than the machine itself but who complains? 
> Yet I would say that VoiceOver gives us more access to iOS features than does 
> any Windows screen reader.  Can you compare Narrator with  VoiceOver both are 
> screen readers hilt into the operating system but they are light years apart. 
>  If your PC was like an Apple device there would be no need for JAWS or NVDA.
> 
> 
> I have an iPhone5S here and it runs iOS11.2 perfectly well.  How many 
> computers of that  age can run Windows10?
> 
> You may argue that an iPhone is slower with the latest version of the 
> operating system but is this not true with any device no matter what the 
> platform is.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 00:17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I think the point the original poster was making is that Apple started main 
>> stream accessibility when they made Voiceover part of iOS with the iPhone 
>> 3GS in 2009. This was only 2 years after the iPhone was first released and 
>> while I am sure Apple did this partly to maybe have more chances for getting 
>> government contracts where accessibility needed to be available, it still 
>> took a bit of vision to do such a deep integration both in iOS and MAC OS 
>> and of course now in TVOS and Watch OS. 
>> The fact is that Google/Android and now Microsoft are all playing catch up 
>> as they follow the example Apple set. Before 2009 accessibility as a right 
>> was not a term you hear, now you do.
>> I know Pablo that you think Android is so much better and all that and I'm 
>> sure it's a pretty good experience by now, but I bought an iPod Touch third 
>> generation in 2009 and remember in those initial years (2009, 2010, 2011 and 
>> so on) when I was also listening to Podcasts and demos of Android 
>> accessibility and back then it was a joke compare dto iOS.
>> Prior to 2009 you had to spend about as much as a subsidised iPhone costs 
>> now to get something like MobileSpeak if you wanted an accessibile 
>> smartphone of some sort and of course if you count the cost of what 
>> MobileGeo used to cost let alone KNFB Reader for Symbian what we can get now 
>> even if you do buy a $1,000 iPhone at full price is pretty amazing. I paid 
>> that much for MobileSpeak and MobileGeo alone and my Microsoft Mobile 6.1 
>> smartphone at the time could do a lot less than what my iPhone can do now.
>> KNFB Reader when it was first available for a few Nokia phones I think was 
>> $1,500.
>> Of course now with Seeing AI which is completely free my KNFB Reader rarely 
>> gets used any more since for what I do which mostly is just reading a single 
>> page or envelope the short text function in the Seeingt AI app usually does 
>> the job.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Pablo Morales
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
>> Time
>> 
>> But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
>> that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
>> KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Christopher Chaltain]

This may seem true for an Apple user and someone who follows a lot of 
Apple news, but as a Samsung S7 owner, I certainly saw Samsung getting 
slaughtered on the news, in the blogosphere, and every time I got on a 
plane. It's hard to imagine Apple would have suffered more, although I 
do agree people like taking pot shots at the company that's on the top 
and tweaking the Apple fan boys.



On 12/30/2017 12:28 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

One thing to remember is that Apple gets pounded twice as hard as anybody else 
if they mess up on something. That's just the nature of being successful. I 
don't even want to think how bad it would have been if the battery disaster 
that happened with the Note 7 had happened with the iPhone 7 or 7 Plus, Apple 
would have been slaughtered, certainly a lot worse than Samsung.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of apps 
such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to mention a 
few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the better for us. It 
would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:

For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.

To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
done more than any other company for us.

I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.

Happy new year to you all.

Sent from my iPhone


On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or lose 
those sues. It is not a money fact.
It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of
disloyalty to their customers. They should not hide this things. They
had a lot of opportunities to share this issues but they rather to
hide it. Here is where the theory that Apple was trying to sell more
new phones earns more strength

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown
Controversy | Time

So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause Tim 
Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned something, 
the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will be shows they 
can provide the information to the device user.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of pablocmd2...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown
Controversy | Time

They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about that 
weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any choice. 
They have done all of this quietly and for years.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Julian
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown
Controversy | Time

LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would give 
us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting them to do 
that though.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:

'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down
Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls
a "misunderstanding"
around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older
phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
"We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize,"
the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.

The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones
exploded last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship
between iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later
confirmed that it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to
prevent sudden shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries
"consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to
be able to use iPhones "as long as possible."

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Christopher Chaltain]

It isn't the case that systems get slower with every update of the 
operating system. IOS 9, for example, was optimized to run better on 
older iPhones.



I could buy a Nokia phone and Talks for less then what an iPhone costs. 
Plus I was using a Nokia phone with Talks in 2002, five years before 
there was an accessible iPhone.



You have less expensive options for screen readers on Windows, such as 
NVDA or Narrator, and it isn't true at all that people don't complain 
about the cost of JAWS.



I'm not bashing the iPhone, it's a great product, but people don't need 
to misrepresent the facts to defend it.



On 12/30/2017 07:46 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:

Frankly I am rather tired of the Apple bashing that appears to be fashionable 
among  some members.

Not all that long ago you had to spend around £150 to add  Talks to make a 
Nokia device accessible.  If you changed your phone another £50 transfer cost 
was required to transfer Talks to your new device.

An Apple phone costs us no more or less than slighted people you cannot say 
that about many products!  Take Windows alone, access software  costs as much 
or more than the machine itself but who complains?
  Yet I would say that VoiceOver gives us more access to iOS features than does 
any Windows screen reader.  Can you compare Narrator with  VoiceOver both are 
screen readers hilt into the operating system but they are light years apart.  
If your PC was like an Apple device there would be no need for JAWS or NVDA.


I have an iPhone5S here and it runs iOS11.2 perfectly well.  How many computers 
of that  age can run Windows10?

You may argue that an iPhone is slower with the latest version of the operating 
system but is this not true with any device no matter what the platform is.



Sent from my iPhone


On 31 Dec 2017, at 00:17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

I think the point the original poster was making is that Apple started main 
stream accessibility when they made Voiceover part of iOS with the iPhone 3GS 
in 2009. This was only 2 years after the iPhone was first released and while I 
am sure Apple did this partly to maybe have more chances for getting government 
contracts where accessibility needed to be available, it still took a bit of 
vision to do such a deep integration both in iOS and MAC OS and of course now 
in TVOS and Watch OS.
The fact is that Google/Android and now Microsoft are all playing catch up as 
they follow the example Apple set. Before 2009 accessibility as a right was not 
a term you hear, now you do.
I know Pablo that you think Android is so much better and all that and I'm sure 
it's a pretty good experience by now, but I bought an iPod Touch third 
generation in 2009 and remember in those initial years (2009, 2010, 2011 and so 
on) when I was also listening to Podcasts and demos of Android accessibility 
and back then it was a joke compare dto iOS.
Prior to 2009 you had to spend about as much as a subsidised iPhone costs now 
to get something like MobileSpeak if you wanted an accessibile smartphone of 
some sort and of course if you count the cost of what MobileGeo used to cost 
let alone KNFB Reader for Symbian what we can get now even if you do buy a 
$1,000 iPhone at full price is pretty amazing. I paid that much for MobileSpeak 
and MobileGeo alone and my Microsoft Mobile 6.1 smartphone at the time could do 
a lot less than what my iPhone can do now.
KNFB Reader when it was first available for a few Nokia phones I think was 
$1,500.
Of course now with Seeing AI which is completely free my KNFB Reader rarely 
gets used any more since for what I do which mostly is just reading a single 
page or envelope the short text function in the Seeingt AI app usually does the 
job.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of apps 
such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to mention a 
few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the better for us. It 
would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfit

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Mike Arrigo]

It is great that both of the smart phone platforms are accessible out of the 
box, we don't have to pay anything more than sighted people do to access our 
phones, this is how it should be with all devices, manufacturers should build 
accessibility and universal access in to their products.

> On Dec 30, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
> that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
> KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time
> 
> I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
> provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of 
> apps such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to 
> mention a few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the 
> better for us. It would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
>> 
>> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
>> done more than any other company for us.
>> 
>> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
>> 
>> Happy new year to you all.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or 
>>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.
>>> It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of 
>>> disloyalty to their customers. They should not hide this things. They 
>>> had a lot of opportunities to share this issues but they rather to 
>>> hide it. Here is where the theory that Apple was trying to sell more 
>>> new phones earns more strength
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>>> Controversy | Time
>>> 
>>> So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
>>> them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause 
>>> Tim Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned 
>>> something, the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will 
>>> be shows they can provide the information to the device user.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of pablocmd2...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>>> Controversy | Time
>>> 
>>> They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about 
>>> that weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any 
>>> choice. They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Julian
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>>> Controversy | Time
>>> 
>>> LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would 
>>> give us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting 
>>> them to do that though.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
>>>> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls 
>>>> a "misunderstanding"
>>>> around the revelation that the company has been slowing do

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Dave]

Hi, is this some kind of Apple Love Feast?

I agree with a lot of what you guys have to say.

But even the wonderful company, known as apple, sometimes get things wrong!

Happy New Year!

Dave.


From: Anthony Vece 
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 1:10 PM
To: Blind iPhone MailingList 
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

Hey Alan; 

Happy New Year to you and, your entire family!!!

Apple is No., 1!!!



  On Dec 31, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> 
wrote:

  hi all! I cannot say enough good things about Apple. For example, I’ve had my 
I watch series one for two years. The battery swelled up and Apple repaired it 
no questions asked I can’t say enough about Apple and how they treat their 
customers! And everyone have a happy healthy safe 2018!






  Alan 


  Sent from my iPhone 5s

  On Dec 30, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:


But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these 
apps that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in 
IOs. KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
Time

I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of apps 
such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to mention a 
few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the better for us. It 
would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 

Sent from my iPhone


  On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> 
wrote:



  For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.



  To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has 
probably done more than any other company for us.



  I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.



  Happy new year to you all.



  Sent from my iPhone



On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:



Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win 
or lose those sues. It is not a money fact.


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Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Anthony Vece]

Hey Alan;

Happy New Year to you and, your entire family!!!

Apple is No., 1!!!


> On Dec 31, 2017, at 8:00 AM, Alan Paganelli <alanandsuza...@earthlink.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> hi all! I cannot say enough good things about Apple. For example, I’ve had my 
> I watch series one for two years. The battery swelled up and Apple repaired 
> it no questions asked I can’t say enough about Apple and how they treat their 
> customers! And everyone have a happy healthy safe 2018!
> 
> 
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5s
> 
> On Dec 30, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
>> that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
>> KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On 
>> Behalf Of GARY WILLIAMS
>> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
>> Time
>> 
>> I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
>> provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of 
>> apps such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to 
>> mention a few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the 
>> better for us. It would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk 
>>> <mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
>>> 
>>> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
>>> done more than any other company for us.
>>> 
>>> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
>>> 
>>> Happy new year to you all.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:pablocmd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or 
>>>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.
> 
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Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Alan Paganelli]

hi all! I cannot say enough good things about Apple. For example, I’ve had my I 
watch series one for two years. The battery swelled up and Apple repaired it no 
questions asked I can’t say enough about Apple and how they treat their 
customers! And everyone have a happy healthy safe 2018!



Alan

Sent from my iPhone 5s

> On Dec 30, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
> that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
> KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time
> 
> I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
> provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of 
> apps such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to 
> mention a few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the 
> better for us. It would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
>> 
>> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
>> done more than any other company for us.
>> 
>> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
>> 
>> Happy new year to you all.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or 
>>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.

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Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Anthony Vece]

Hello Alia;
I agree with you 100%.
God Bless
Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 8+!!!

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 3:53 AM, alia robinson  wrote:
> 
> me too. it was the first off the shelf devices I could buy with accessibility 
> built in. I ditched jaws for mac, and got my iphone. I have nothing to 
> complain about!
> 
> On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Frankly I am rather tired of the Apple bashing that appears to be fashionable 
> among  some members.
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Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[alia robinson]

me too. it was the first off the shelf devices I could buy with accessibility 
built in. I ditched jaws for mac, and got my iphone. I have nothing to complain 
about!

On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

Frankly I am rather tired of the Apple bashing that appears to be fashionable 
among  some members.

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Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Victor Gouveia]

I agree with Malcolm, though not as vehemently.

I also have to think that, while the slow down would have been nice to know 
about, how much more frustrating was it to have your phone powered down for 
no apparent reason.


One thing I noticed that my phone would do was power down when it was 
updating, then I found out it had to do with my phone's storage space and 
how low it was getting.  The problem was that I had to solve the problem on 
my own. It would have been nice to have the device tell me about such 
things, but it didn't do that, it simply shut itself down to delete 
temporary files and active apps.


Deleting temporary files, apps, music and audiobooks helped, and it's no 
longer shutting down, but it was frustrating to say the least.


I would think the shut downs would be a great deal more frustrating then a 
slight slow down, but that's just me, and perhaps Malcolm.  Smile.


Victor

-Original Message- 
From: Malcolm Parfitt

Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
Time


Frankly I am rather tired of the Apple bashing that appears to be 
fashionable among  some members.


Not all that long ago you had to spend around £150 to add  Talks to make a 
Nokia device accessible.  If you changed your phone another £50 transfer 
cost was required to transfer Talks to your new device.


An Apple phone costs us no more or less than slighted people you cannot say 
that about many products!  Take Windows alone, access software  costs as 
much or more than the machine itself but who complains?
Yet I would say that VoiceOver gives us more access to iOS features than 
does any Windows screen reader.  Can you compare Narrator with  VoiceOver 
both are screen readers hilt into the operating system but they are light 
years apart.  If your PC was like an Apple device there would be no need for 
JAWS or NVDA.



I have an iPhone5S here and it runs iOS11.2 perfectly well.  How many 
computers of that  age can run Windows10?


You may argue that an iPhone is slower with the latest version of the 
operating system but is this not true with any device no matter what the 
platform is.




Sent from my iPhone


On 31 Dec 2017, at 00:17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

I think the point the original poster was making is that Apple started 
main stream accessibility when they made Voiceover part of iOS with the 
iPhone 3GS in 2009. This was only 2 years after the iPhone was first 
released and while I am sure Apple did this partly to maybe have more 
chances for getting government contracts where accessibility needed to be 
available, it still took a bit of vision to do such a deep integration 
both in iOS and MAC OS and of course now in TVOS and Watch OS.
The fact is that Google/Android and now Microsoft are all playing catch up 
as they follow the example Apple set. Before 2009 accessibility as a right 
was not a term you hear, now you do.
I know Pablo that you think Android is so much better and all that and I'm 
sure it's a pretty good experience by now, but I bought an iPod Touch 
third generation in 2009 and remember in those initial years (2009, 2010, 
2011 and so on) when I was also listening to Podcasts and demos of Android 
accessibility and back then it was a joke compare dto iOS.
Prior to 2009 you had to spend about as much as a subsidised iPhone costs 
now to get something like MobileSpeak if you wanted an accessibile 
smartphone of some sort and of course if you count the cost of what 
MobileGeo used to cost let alone KNFB Reader for Symbian what we can get 
now even if you do buy a $1,000 iPhone at full price is pretty amazing. I 
paid that much for MobileSpeak and MobileGeo alone and my Microsoft Mobile 
6.1 smartphone at the time could do a lot less than what my iPhone can do 
now.
KNFB Reader when it was first available for a few Nokia phones I think was 
$1,500.
Of course now with Seeing AI which is completely free my KNFB Reader 
rarely gets used any more since for what I do which mostly is just reading 
a single page or envelope the short text function in the Seeingt AI app 
usually does the job.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Pablo Morales

Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
Time


But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these 
apps that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than 
in IOs. KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and 
see.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of GARY WILLIAMS

Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Contr

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Frankly I am rather tired of the Apple bashing that appears to be fashionable 
among  some members.

Not all that long ago you had to spend around £150 to add  Talks to make a 
Nokia device accessible.  If you changed your phone another £50 transfer cost 
was required to transfer Talks to your new device.

An Apple phone costs us no more or less than slighted people you cannot say 
that about many products!  Take Windows alone, access software  costs as much 
or more than the machine itself but who complains? 
 Yet I would say that VoiceOver gives us more access to iOS features than does 
any Windows screen reader.  Can you compare Narrator with  VoiceOver both are 
screen readers hilt into the operating system but they are light years apart.  
If your PC was like an Apple device there would be no need for JAWS or NVDA.


I have an iPhone5S here and it runs iOS11.2 perfectly well.  How many computers 
of that  age can run Windows10?

You may argue that an iPhone is slower with the latest version of the operating 
system but is this not true with any device no matter what the platform is.



Sent from my iPhone

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 00:17, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> I think the point the original poster was making is that Apple started main 
> stream accessibility when they made Voiceover part of iOS with the iPhone 3GS 
> in 2009. This was only 2 years after the iPhone was first released and while 
> I am sure Apple did this partly to maybe have more chances for getting 
> government contracts where accessibility needed to be available, it still 
> took a bit of vision to do such a deep integration both in iOS and MAC OS and 
> of course now in TVOS and Watch OS. 
> The fact is that Google/Android and now Microsoft are all playing catch up as 
> they follow the example Apple set. Before 2009 accessibility as a right was 
> not a term you hear, now you do.
> I know Pablo that you think Android is so much better and all that and I'm 
> sure it's a pretty good experience by now, but I bought an iPod Touch third 
> generation in 2009 and remember in those initial years (2009, 2010, 2011 and 
> so on) when I was also listening to Podcasts and demos of Android 
> accessibility and back then it was a joke compare dto iOS.
> Prior to 2009 you had to spend about as much as a subsidised iPhone costs now 
> to get something like MobileSpeak if you wanted an accessibile smartphone of 
> some sort and of course if you count the cost of what MobileGeo used to cost 
> let alone KNFB Reader for Symbian what we can get now even if you do buy a 
> $1,000 iPhone at full price is pretty amazing. I paid that much for 
> MobileSpeak and MobileGeo alone and my Microsoft Mobile 6.1 smartphone at the 
> time could do a lot less than what my iPhone can do now.
> KNFB Reader when it was first available for a few Nokia phones I think was 
> $1,500.
> Of course now with Seeing AI which is completely free my KNFB Reader rarely 
> gets used any more since for what I do which mostly is just reading a single 
> page or envelope the short text function in the Seeingt AI app usually does 
> the job.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time
> 
> But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
> that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
> KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> GARY WILLIAMS
> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time
> 
> I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
> provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of 
> apps such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to 
> mention a few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the 
> better for us. It would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
>> 
>> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
>> done more than any other company for us.
>> 
>> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
>> 
>> Hap

RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think the point the original poster was making is that Apple started main 
stream accessibility when they made Voiceover part of iOS with the iPhone 3GS 
in 2009. This was only 2 years after the iPhone was first released and while I 
am sure Apple did this partly to maybe have more chances for getting government 
contracts where accessibility needed to be available, it still took a bit of 
vision to do such a deep integration both in iOS and MAC OS and of course now 
in TVOS and Watch OS. 
The fact is that Google/Android and now Microsoft are all playing catch up as 
they follow the example Apple set. Before 2009 accessibility as a right was not 
a term you hear, now you do.
I know Pablo that you think Android is so much better and all that and I'm sure 
it's a pretty good experience by now, but I bought an iPod Touch third 
generation in 2009 and remember in those initial years (2009, 2010, 2011 and so 
on) when I was also listening to Podcasts and demos of Android accessibility 
and back then it was a joke compare dto iOS.
Prior to 2009 you had to spend about as much as a subsidised iPhone costs now 
to get something like MobileSpeak if you wanted an accessibile smartphone of 
some sort and of course if you count the cost of what MobileGeo used to cost 
let alone KNFB Reader for Symbian what we can get now even if you do buy a 
$1,000 iPhone at full price is pretty amazing. I paid that much for MobileSpeak 
and MobileGeo alone and my Microsoft Mobile 6.1 smartphone at the time could do 
a lot less than what my iPhone can do now.
KNFB Reader when it was first available for a few Nokia phones I think was 
$1,500.
Of course now with Seeing AI which is completely free my KNFB Reader rarely 
gets used any more since for what I do which mostly is just reading a single 
page or envelope the short text function in the Seeingt AI app usually does the 
job.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of apps 
such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to mention a 
few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the better for us. It 
would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
> 
> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
> done more than any other company for us.
> 
> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
> 
> Happy new year to you all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or 
>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.
>> It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of 
>> disloyalty to their customers. They should not hide this things. They 
>> had a lot of opportunities to share this issues but they rather to 
>> hide it. Here is where the theory that Apple was trying to sell more 
>> new phones earns more strength
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>> Controversy | Time
>> 
>> So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
>> them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause 
>> Tim Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned 
>> something, the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will 
>> be shows they can provide the information to the device user.
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Be

RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Pablo Morales]

But Apple is not the only one who have created accessibility. All these apps 
that you are mentioning exist for android, and they are cheaper than in IOs. 
KNFB reader is just $20 for android. Maybe you need to try and see.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of apps 
such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to mention a 
few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the better for us. It 
would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
> 
> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
> done more than any other company for us.
> 
> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
> 
> Happy new year to you all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or 
>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.
>> It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of 
>> disloyalty to their customers. They should not hide this things. They 
>> had a lot of opportunities to share this issues but they rather to 
>> hide it. Here is where the theory that Apple was trying to sell more 
>> new phones earns more strength
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>> Controversy | Time
>> 
>> So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
>> them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause 
>> Tim Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned 
>> something, the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will 
>> be shows they can provide the information to the device user.
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of pablocmd2...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>> Controversy | Time
>> 
>> They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about 
>> that weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any 
>> choice. They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Julian
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>> Controversy | Time
>> 
>> LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would 
>> give us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting 
>> them to do that though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
>>> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls 
>>> a "misunderstanding"
>>> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older 
>>> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
>>> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," 
>>> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
>>> 
>>> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones 
>>> exploded last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship 
>>> between iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later 
>>> confirmed that it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to 
>>> prevent sudden shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
>>> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries 
>>> "c

RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

One thing to remember is that Apple gets pounded twice as hard as anybody else 
if they mess up on something. That's just the nature of being successful. I 
don't even want to think how bad it would have been if the battery disaster 
that happened with the Note 7 had happened with the iPhone 7 or 7 Plus, Apple 
would have been slaughtered, certainly a lot worse than Samsung.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
GARY WILLIAMS
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 9:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of apps 
such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to mention a 
few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the better for us. It 
would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
> 
> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
> done more than any other company for us.
> 
> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
> 
> Happy new year to you all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or 
>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.
>> It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of 
>> disloyalty to their customers. They should not hide this things. They 
>> had a lot of opportunities to share this issues but they rather to 
>> hide it. Here is where the theory that Apple was trying to sell more 
>> new phones earns more strength
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>> Controversy | Time
>> 
>> So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
>> them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause 
>> Tim Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned 
>> something, the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will 
>> be shows they can provide the information to the device user.
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of pablocmd2...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>> Controversy | Time
>> 
>> They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about 
>> that weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any 
>> choice. They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Julian
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown 
>> Controversy | Time
>> 
>> LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would 
>> give us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting 
>> them to do that though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
>>> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls 
>>> a "misunderstanding"
>>> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older 
>>> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
>>> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," 
>>> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
>>> 
>>> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones 
>>> exploded last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship 
>>> between iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later 
>>> confirmed that it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to 
>>> prev

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[GARY WILLIAMS]

I don’t either, I’m just thankful for the accessible technology they have 
provided for us. The iphone has opened up so many opportunities because of apps 
such as Digit Eyes, Seeing ai, Be My Eyes and Knfb Reader, just to mention a 
few. Going to the grocery store has certainly changed for the better for us. It 
would be really hard if we didn’t have these apps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 30, 2017, at 6:59 AM, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
> 
> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
> done more than any other company for us.
> 
> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
> 
> Happy new year to you all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or 
>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.
>> It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of disloyalty 
>> to their customers. They should not hide this things. They had a lot of 
>> opportunities to share this issues but they rather to hide it. Here is where 
>> the theory that Apple was trying to sell more new phones earns more strength
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
>> Time
>> 
>> So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
>> them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause 
>> Tim Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned 
>> something, the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will 
>> be shows they can provide the information to the device user.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of pablocmd2...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
>> Time
>> 
>> They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about 
>> that weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any 
>> choice. They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Julian
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | 
>> Time
>> 
>> LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would 
>> give us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting 
>> them to do that though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
>>> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls a 
>>> "misunderstanding"
>>> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older 
>>> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
>>> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," 
>>> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
>>> 
>>> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones exploded 
>>> last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship between 
>>> iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later confirmed that 
>>> it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to prevent sudden 
>>> shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
>>> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries 
>>> "consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to be 
>>> able to use iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the company 
>>> will cut the price of a battery replacement by $50 for anyone with an 
>>> iPhone 6 or later starting in late January. That means instead of 
>>> dropping $79 to get a new battery and make your old iPhone work like 
>>> new again, you'll pay $29 through December 2018.
>>> iPhone users can als

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[lenron brown]

Please if you think apple did the accessibility they did because they
love us, I really don't know what to tell you. People try to act like
the stuff they do is because they care so much for everyone. The are a
company like any other company, they want to make money. I don't knock
that, it's just the fact they lied, and they want to cover it up with
this bs.

On 12/30/17, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
> For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.
>
> To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably
> done more than any other company for us.
>
> I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.
>
> Happy new year to you all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or
>> lose those sues. It is not a money fact.
>> It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of disloyalty
>> to their customers. They should not hide this things. They had a lot of
>> opportunities to share this issues but they rather to hide it. Here is
>> where the theory that Apple was trying to sell more new phones earns more
>> strength
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy |
>> Time
>>
>> So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either
>> defeat them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going
>> to cause Tim Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully
>> learned something, the new battery status app or settings area or whatever
>> it will be shows they can provide the information to the device user.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of pablocmd2...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy |
>> Time
>>
>> They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about
>> that weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided
>> any choice. They have done all of this quietly and for years.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Julian
>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy |
>> Time
>>
>> LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would
>> give us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting
>> them to do that though.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down
>>> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls a
>>> "misunderstanding"
>>> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older
>>> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
>>> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize,"
>>> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
>>>
>>> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones exploded
>>> last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship between
>>> iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later confirmed that
>>> it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to prevent sudden
>>> shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
>>> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries
>>> "consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to be
>>> able to use iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the company
>>> will cut the price of a battery replacement by $50 for anyone with an
>>> iPhone 6 or later starting in late January. That means instead of
>>> dropping $79 to get a new battery and make your old iPhone work like
>>> new again, you'll pay $29 through December 2018.
>>> iPhone users can also expect an iOS software update early in 2018 that
>>> will include new information abou

Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Malcolm Parfitt]

For what it’s worth I think this is all a case of a storm in a teacup.

To put the balance straight it is worth remembering that Apple has probably 
done more than any other company for us.

I do not accept that there is a conspiracy on Apple’s part.

Happy new year to you all.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:30, Pablo Morales <pablocmd2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or lose 
> those sues. It is not a money fact.
> It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of disloyalty to 
> their customers. They should not hide this things. They had a lot of 
> opportunities to share this issues but they rather to hide it. Here is where 
> the theory that Apple was trying to sell more new phones earns more strength
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time
> 
> So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
> them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause 
> Tim Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned 
> something, the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will be 
> shows they can provide the information to the device user.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> pablocmd2...@gmail.com
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time
> 
> They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about that 
> weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any 
> choice. They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Julian
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time
> 
> LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would 
> give us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting 
> them to do that though.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
>> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls a 
>> "misunderstanding"
>> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older 
>> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
>> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," 
>> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
>> 
>> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones exploded 
>> last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship between 
>> iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later confirmed that 
>> it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to prevent sudden 
>> shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
>> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries 
>> "consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to be 
>> able to use iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the company 
>> will cut the price of a battery replacement by $50 for anyone with an 
>> iPhone 6 or later starting in late January. That means instead of 
>> dropping $79 to get a new battery and make your old iPhone work like 
>> new again, you'll pay $29 through December 2018.
>> iPhone users can also expect an iOS software update early in 2018 that 
>> will include new information about their battery's health, letting 
>> people see when the phone's battery may be affecting its performance.
>> The iPhone battery revelations struck a chord because some iPhone 
>> users believe the company intentionally slows its older phones to get 
>> customers to buy new ones. However, Apple says the practice is meant 
>> to prolong the life of older batteries. "This feature's only intent is 
>> to prevent unexpected shutdowns so that the iPhone can still be used,"
>> Apple says in a new support article.
>> Still, Apple is now facing several lawsuits over the matter. The 
>> company also promised to keep working on how it manages performance to 
>> avoid shu

RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Pablo Morales]

Their problem is not how much money they will need to pay if they win or lose 
those sues. It is not a money fact.
It is a trust fact. This attitude from Apple has shown a lot of disloyalty to 
their customers. They should not hide this things. They had a lot of 
opportunities to share this issues but they rather to hide it. Here is where 
the theory that Apple was trying to sell more new phones earns more strength

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause Tim 
Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned something, 
the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will be shows they 
can provide the information to the device user.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pablocmd2...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about that 
weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any choice. 
They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would give 
us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting them to do 
that though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls a 
> "misunderstanding"
> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older 
> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," 
> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
> 
> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones exploded 
> last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship between 
> iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later confirmed that 
> it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to prevent sudden 
> shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries 
> "consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to be 
> able to use iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the company 
> will cut the price of a battery replacement by $50 for anyone with an 
> iPhone 6 or later starting in late January. That means instead of 
> dropping $79 to get a new battery and make your old iPhone work like 
> new again, you'll pay $29 through December 2018.
> iPhone users can also expect an iOS software update early in 2018 that 
> will include new information about their battery's health, letting 
> people see when the phone's battery may be affecting its performance.
> The iPhone battery revelations struck a chord because some iPhone 
> users believe the company intentionally slows its older phones to get 
> customers to buy new ones. However, Apple says the practice is meant 
> to prolong the life of older batteries. "This feature's only intent is 
> to prevent unexpected shutdowns so that the iPhone can still be used,"
> Apple says in a new support article.
> Still, Apple is now facing several lawsuits over the matter. The 
> company also promised to keep working on how it manages performance to 
> avoid shutdowns, and said it hopes to earn customers' trust again next year.
> 
> Original Article at:
> http://time.com/5081679/apple-apologizes-iphone-slowdown-controversy-b
> attery
> -price/
> 
> 
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RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Sieghard Weitzel]

So there are a few class action suits in progress, Apple will either defeat 
them or settle them, they have so much money that it is not going to cause Tim 
Cook to loose sleep over it. Going forward they hopefully learned something, 
the new battery status app or settings area or whatever it will be shows they 
can provide the information to the device user.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
pablocmd2...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 5:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about that 
weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any choice. 
They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would give 
us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting them to do 
that though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls a 
> "misunderstanding"
> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older 
> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," 
> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
> 
> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones exploded 
> last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship between 
> iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later confirmed that 
> it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to prevent sudden 
> shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries 
> "consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to be 
> able to use iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the company 
> will cut the price of a battery replacement by $50 for anyone with an 
> iPhone 6 or later starting in late January. That means instead of 
> dropping $79 to get a new battery and make your old iPhone work like 
> new again, you'll pay $29 through December 2018.
> iPhone users can also expect an iOS software update early in 2018 that 
> will include new information about their battery's health, letting 
> people see when the phone's battery may be affecting its performance.
> The iPhone battery revelations struck a chord because some iPhone 
> users believe the company intentionally slows its older phones to get 
> customers to buy new ones. However, Apple says the practice is meant 
> to prolong the life of older batteries. "This feature's only intent is 
> to prevent unexpected shutdowns so that the iPhone can still be used,"
> Apple says in a new support article.
> Still, Apple is now facing several lawsuits over the matter. The 
> company also promised to keep working on how it manages performance to 
> avoid shutdowns, and said it hopes to earn customers' trust again next year.
> 
> Original Article at:
> http://time.com/5081679/apple-apologizes-iphone-slowdown-controversy-b
> attery
> -price/
> 
> 
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RE: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[pablocmd2014]

They are going to be sue because they didn't informe the customers about that 
weird operation that reduce performance, and neither they provided any choice. 
They have done all of this quietly and for years. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would give 
us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting them to do 
that though.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down 
> Old iPhones Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls a 
> "misunderstanding"
> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older 
> phones to accommodate for their aging batteries.
> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," 
> the company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
> 
> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones exploded 
> last week after a blog post highlighted the relationship between 
> iPhone performance and battery condition. Apple later confirmed that 
> it has been slowing older iPhones' performance to prevent sudden 
> shutdowns as their aging batteries lost potency over time.
> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries 
> "consumable components" and that it has always wanted customers to be 
> able to use iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the company 
> will cut the price of a battery replacement by $50 for anyone with an 
> iPhone 6 or later starting in late January. That means instead of 
> dropping $79 to get a new battery and make your old iPhone work like 
> new again, you'll pay $29 through December 2018.
> iPhone users can also expect an iOS software update early in 2018 that 
> will include new information about their battery's health, letting 
> people see when the phone's battery may be affecting its performance.
> The iPhone battery revelations struck a chord because some iPhone 
> users believe the company intentionally slows its older phones to get 
> customers to buy new ones. However, Apple says the practice is meant 
> to prolong the life of older batteries. "This feature's only intent is 
> to prevent unexpected shutdowns so that the iPhone can still be used," 
> Apple says in a new support article.
> Still, Apple is now facing several lawsuits over the matter. The 
> company also promised to keep working on how it manages performance to 
> avoid shutdowns, and said it hopes to earn customers' trust again next year.
> 
> Original Article at:
> http://time.com/5081679/apple-apologizes-iphone-slowdown-controversy-b
> attery
> -price/
> 
> 
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Re: Apple Apologizes After iPhone Battery Slowdown Controversy | Time

[Julian]

LOL, apology… Yeah right! If they really want to show remorse, they would give 
us the ability to toggle the throttling on or off. Good luck getting them to do 
that though.

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> On Dec 28, 2017, at 4:20 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> 'We Apologize.' Apple Offers $29 Fix After Uproar Over Slowing Down Old
> iPhones
> Apple has apologized to its customers for what it calls a "misunderstanding"
> around the revelation that the company has been slowing down older phones to
> accommodate for their aging batteries.
> "We know that some of you feel Apple has let you down. We apologize," the
> company said in a letter published on its website Thursday.
> 
> The controversy over the slowing performance of aging iPhones exploded last
> week after a blog post highlighted the relationship between iPhone
> performance and battery condition. Apple later confirmed that it has been
> slowing older iPhones' performance to prevent sudden shutdowns as their
> aging batteries lost potency over time.
> In the letter posted Thursday, Apple said it considers batteries "consumable
> components" and that it has always wanted customers to be able to use
> iPhones "as long as possible." To that end, the company will cut the price
> of a battery replacement by $50 for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later
> starting in late January. That means instead of dropping $79 to get a new
> battery and make your old iPhone work like new again, you'll pay $29 through
> December 2018.
> iPhone users can also expect an iOS software update early in 2018 that will
> include new information about their battery's health, letting people see
> when the phone's battery may be affecting its performance.
> The iPhone battery revelations struck a chord because some iPhone users
> believe the company intentionally slows its older phones to get customers to
> buy new ones. However, Apple says the practice is meant to prolong the life
> of older batteries. "This feature's only intent is to prevent unexpected
> shutdowns so that the iPhone can still be used," Apple says in a new support
> article.
> Still, Apple is now facing several lawsuits over the matter. The company
> also promised to keep working on how it manages performance to avoid
> shutdowns, and said it hopes to earn customers' trust again next year.
> 
> Original Article at:
> http://time.com/5081679/apple-apologizes-iphone-slowdown-controversy-battery
> -price/
> 
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