Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

It did get my dish washer, I pointed it at myself and it said “human face”.

When I was living with my now ex-wife I used to say I had hands like gold fish, 
always in the bowl.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 21:54, Holly  wrote:
> 
> 
> Richard:
>  
> Yes, when I first used it, it did very poorly at identifying objects.  I just 
> didn’t know if it had been improved, or not.  Obviously, if it hasn’t been 
> updated in three years, there are surely better apps out there now.
>  
> I will have to give Super Sense a try.
>  
> Thanks.
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Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Holly]

Richard:

Yes, when I first used it, it did very poorly at identifying objects.  I just 
didn’t know if it had been improved, or not.  Obviously, if it hasn’t been 
updated in three years, there are surely better apps out there now.

I will have to give Super Sense a try.

Thanks.

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RE: Supersense first impressions.

[Richard Turner]

I just re-downloaded AIPoly vision.
It thought my sink was a toaster.
My dishwasher it thought was a close dryer.
It kept saying different things for the same object if I held the phone steady 
on one thing.
It has not been updated for 3 years and has an in-app purchase of $4.99 for 
full access.
Frankly, I wouldn't use it for free.
Object recognition will get better with all these apps I'm sure, but the main 
things I would use a scanner for is reading, currency identification, and 
product lookup.  Especially by barcodes and especially if expiration dates were 
included which they do not seem to be in most barcodes, and finding that info 
on the label is very difficult.

Everyone should forget about using an iPhone camera for color as it is highly 
dependent on lighting and the same color will be reported as widely different 
colors depending on the lighting.
You need a dedicated hardware device for colors in my opinion based on many 
years of experience.




Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

I haven't tried this app yet, but was wondering if anyone has compared it to 
Aipoly Vision, which is free for Apple products.

It will identify objects, colors, recognize animals, plants, food, currency, 
etc..

I have had it on my phone for a couple of years, but haven't used it lately and 
not sure if it has been improved .

Here is the link to more info.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aipoly-vision-sight-for-blind-visually-impaired/id1069166437#?platform=iphone<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Faipoly-vision-sight-for-blind-visually-impaired%2Fid1069166437%23%3Fplatform%3Diphone=04%7C01%7C%7Cb74d923c7c49429c8fc208d8a7879af3%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443548141473063%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=a9KMNsaehlc%2B3aNz8Xsz6smvyPHKyXEQfDrYrD5aKjA%3D=0>
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Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Holly]

I haven’t tried this app yet, but was wondering if anyone has compared it to 
Aipoly Vision, which is free for Apple products.

It will identify objects, colors, recognize animals, plants, food, currency, 
etc..

I have had it on my phone for a couple of years, but haven’t used it lately and 
not sure if it has been improved .

Here is the link to more info.  

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aipoly-vision-sight-for-blind-visually-impaired/id1069166437#?platform=iphone

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Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Lelia Struve]

Hi everyone, I hope you all have a merry Christmas. So I used this app to read 
some mail. I also used the Seeing a i app.  Now when I say I read mail, I 
usually just read the envelopes. The seeing a I app is the one I got better 
results from. I am going to try reading barcodes with both apps as well. I will 
let you all know what I find out.  I did actually open one piece of mail and 
again reading the document I got better results with the seeing a i  app.  I 
know that the developers for these apps are on the email list so I want to let 
you guys know that I am not at all, saying anything bad about any app. I am 
just giving my opinion on my comparisons. I hope you don’t take what I am 
saying in a bad way.

Thank you so much for developing these apps.

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Cannot find it here in the UK, is it a better scanner?  Is it worth having 
> both in your opinion?
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 17:00, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  I got it from Amazon, which is his main seller. Try searching for it as 
>> one word on Amazon UK and see if it shows up. There is also a video on 
>> youtube explaining to someone who is blind how to set it up. If I can find 
>> that video I'll send a link. 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>> when I was young."
>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.
>>> 
>>> Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
>>> information welcome.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Richard for all your efforts.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is 
>>>> usually correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, 
>>>> see below.
>>>>  
>>>> Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with 
>>>> a document in the bottom.
>>>> Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to 
>>>> have a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
>>>> That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
>>>> tactile ruler.
>>>>  
>>>> Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same 
>>>> document in the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document 
>>>> twice before it went ahead and took the picture.
>>>>  
>>>> Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I 
>>>> was using.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>>  
>>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>>> when I was young."
>>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>>  
>>>> I’m not the card shark
>>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>>  
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>>>>  
>>>> You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to 
>>>> get it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense 
>>>> does.  Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take 
>>>> picture button as far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the 
>>>> page.
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at

Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Cannot find it here in the UK, is it a better scanner?  Is it worth having both 
in your opinion?

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 17:00, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
>  I got it from Amazon, which is his main seller. Try searching for it as one 
> word on Amazon UK and see if it shows up. There is also a video on youtube 
> explaining to someone who is blind how to set it up. If I can find that video 
> I'll send a link. 
> 
> Richard
> 
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>  I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.
>> 
>> Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
>> information welcome.
>> 
>> Thanks Richard for all your efforts.
>> 
>> Malcolm Parfitt
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is 
>>> usually correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, 
>>> see below.
>>>  
>>> Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with 
>>> a document in the bottom.
>>> Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to 
>>> have a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
>>> That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
>>> tactile ruler.
>>>  
>>> Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document 
>>> in the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice 
>>> before it went ahead and took the picture.
>>>  
>>> Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I 
>>> was using.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>  
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>  
>>> I’m not the card shark
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>>>  
>>> You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to 
>>> get it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense 
>>> does.  Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take 
>>> picture button as far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
>>> 
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
>>> I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell 
>>> them again.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Richard, in the U.S.
>>>  
>>> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
>>> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation 
>>> in deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me 
>>> when I was young."
>>> "Why, what did she tell you?"
>>> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
>>> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>>>  
>>> I’m not the card shark
>>> My web site, www.turner42.com
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.
>>>

Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Richard Turner]

I got it from Amazon, which is his main seller. Try searching for it as one 
word on Amazon UK and see if it shows up. There is also a video on youtube 
explaining to someone who is blind how to set it up. If I can find that video 
I'll send a link.

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:

 I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.

Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
information welcome.

Thanks Richard for all your efforts.

Malcolm Parfitt

On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  wrote:


Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is usually 
correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, see below.

Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with a 
document in the bottom.
Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to have 
a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
tactile ruler.

Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document in 
the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice before it 
went ahead and took the picture.

Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I was 
using.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C15924cb241854330591b08d8a75b5281%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443357957157852%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=5uHb%2F5KaczmssoJ1CYqdG8WSRSy97No8wUcNoobe5IY%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button as 
far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell them 
again.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, 
www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=04%7C01%7C%7C15924cb241854330591b08d8a75b5281%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637443357957167850%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000=DaCYYupg3vmOULgu8XDegWE1APHhGoumg6MzyuGXUPU%3D=0>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.

Hello Richard,

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com&g

Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I’ll try and dig out a ruler and have a play.

Incidentally where can you buy the Scanner bin from?  I’m in the UK any 
information welcome.

Thanks Richard for all your efforts.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:48, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is 
> usually correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, 
> see below.
>  
> Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with a 
> document in the bottom.
> Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to 
> have a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
> That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
> tactile ruler.
>  
> Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document 
> in the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice before 
> it went ahead and took the picture.
>  
> Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I was 
> using.
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
> it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
> Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button 
> as far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
> 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
> 
> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
> I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell 
> them again.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Hello Richard,
>  
> I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.
>  
> Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
> not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
> never got it to work.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Malcolm,
> Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> 
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:
> 
> 
> I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest 
> release of IOS.
>  
> Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single 
> page document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and 
> having followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on 
> the page was clipped.
> The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
> and Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
> Having setup the st

RE: Supersense first impressions.

[Richard Turner]

Yes, Supersense just does its thing when it thinks it is time which is usually 
correct, though sometimes jumps the gun, or takes a little longer, see below.

Seeing AI will say hold steady as soon as I put it on the Scanner bin with a 
document in the bottom.
Try setting your FOPYDO at 11.5 inches above the document if you happen to have 
a tactile ruler handy and see if that works.
That is the height of the scanner bin according to my 54 year old braille 
tactile ruler.

Now, I opened Supersense and put it in document mode with the same document in 
the Scanner bin.  It said move farther away from the document twice before it 
went ahead and took the picture.

Both had 100% accuracy with the Scanner bin Packing list which is what I was 
using.


Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 7:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button as 
far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.
Malcolm Parfitt


On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell them 
again.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.

Hello Richard,

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

Malcolm,
Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped.
The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to

Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

You’re quite right Richard, that’s what I normally do but I was trying to get 
it to automatically take a picture like Voice Dream and Supersense does.  
Incidentally in document mode Supersense does not have a take picture button as 
far as I can tell, it relies on its detection of the page.

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 15:25, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> 
> You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
> I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell 
> them again.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, in the U.S.
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> I’m not the card shark
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Hello Richard,
>  
> I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.
>  
> Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
> not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
> never got it to work.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.
>  
> Malcolm,
> Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?
>  
> 
> Richard
>  
> "You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a 
> Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in 
> deep space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I 
> was young."
> "Why, what did she tell you?"
> "I don't know, I didn't listen."
> -- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>  
> 
> On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:
> 
> 
> I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest 
> release of IOS.
>  
> Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single 
> page document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and 
> having followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on 
> the page was clipped.
> The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
> and Voice Dream Scanner.
>  
> Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
> Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
> Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
> document.
>  
> Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a 
> document and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the 
> document with no text clipped.
>  
> Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors 
> and some text was clipped.
>  
> Prizmo Go too clipped some text.
>  
> I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.
>  
> Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.
>  
> This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from 
> mine.  This is just my initial finding.
>  
> I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
> with other apps where appropriate.
>  
> Malcolm
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RE: Supersense first impressions.

[Richard Turner]

You need to just ignore that message and activate the take picture button.
I think I sent that feedback to Microsoft before, but we both should tell them 
again.



Richard, in the U.S.

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


  *   I’m not the card shark
  *   My web site, www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Supersense first impressions.

Hello Richard,

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

Malcolm,
Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, 
malc...@parfitt1.org.uk<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped.
The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

Malcolm
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RE: Supersense first impressions.

[malcolm]

Hello Richard,

 

I did update Seeing AI this morning and it was the update I used.

 

Strangely enough when I use the stand with Seeing AI it always tells me that 
not all edges are visible.  I’ve tried adjusting the hight of the stand but 
never got it to work.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 23 December 2020 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

 

Malcolm, 

Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk 
<mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>  wrote:

 

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

 

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped. 

The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

 

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

 

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

 

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

 

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

 

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

 

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

 

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

 

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

 

Malcolm

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RE: Supersense first impressions.

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Hi Richard, I have seeing eye on my phone but I went to the app store and found 
no update for me.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2020 9:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Supersense first impressions.

 

Malcolm, 

Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?

 

Richard

 

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."

"Why, what did she tell you?"

"I don't know, I didn't listen."

-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy





On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:

 

I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

 

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped. 

The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

 

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

 

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

 

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

 

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

 

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

 

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

 

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

 

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

 

Malcolm

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Re: Supersense first impressions.

[Richard Turner]

Malcolm,
Have you tried the Seeing AI after yesterday's update?


Richard

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On Dec 23, 2020, at 4:33 AM, malc...@parfitt1.org.uk wrote:


I have just been trying Supersense with my iPhone XR running the latest release 
of IOS.

Using the app free hand I was able to obtain excellent results on a single page 
document I had printed with my HP laser printer.  OCR was accurate and having 
followed thee instructions on document placement none of the text on the page 
was clipped.
The only apps to come near to Supersense that I tried freehand were Prizmo Go 
and Voice Dream Scanner.

Next I used the same document with my iPhone using a Fopydo document stand.  
Having setup the stand and placed my iPhone on the document shelf I used a 
Bluetooth keyboard to control the iPhone, so as not to disturb it or the 
document.

Using Supersense’s  Smart Scanning option it detected I was scanning a document 
and captured the page.  Once again it gave an accurate OCR of the document with 
no text clipped.

Voice Dream performed in a similar manner but there were a couple of errors and 
some text was clipped.

Prizmo Go too clipped some text.

I tried Seeing AI, KNFB Reader, Envision AI, Prizmo and Prizmo Go.

Out of thee apps Supersense did the best job on the document I used.

This is by no means a scientific result and your findings may differ from mine. 
 This is just my initial finding.

I shall experiment further with other features of Supersense and compare them 
with other apps where appropriate.

Malcolm

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