Re: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread Dave 

Translation please!

From: Paul Richard McGann 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 2:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: color id app

sieghard and richard, 

very understanding. that is how I was given fro blind tech trainer who 
expalined to me. somehow, he forgot about multi-color like plaid, and desig. no 
problem. sieghard, yes, I deid in good light. wink! 

richard, blind tech trainer said that digital eye is good for heairng blind who 
rely on voce, not brialle. so that is why I was advised not to use digital eye 
as well as blind square as they are mostly work in voice. we eed to depend on 
brialle display. wink1 thank you1

suincerely, 
rich 


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: color id app


I have to mostly agree with Sieghard on this one.
Digit-Eyes sells labels that can be sown into clothes and will last through 
dozens of washing and drying cycles.
If you don't want to go to that extent, try TapTapSee. I am hoping the output 
stays on the screen long enough to use with a braille display. Sieghard is 
right, that the iPhone is not very good at color identification, but TapTapSee 
will at least identify patterns and if the light is good, at least come close 
on the color.
I've used it fairly successfully with shirts with a wide variety of patterns 
and colors and it is probably 75% accurate with color in mediocre lighting and 
gets better in good lighting.
But, you will always want sighted confirmation or good labels like Sieghard 
suggested for any time that being well dressed is important. If it is a casual 
event, and exact matching isn't necessary, with practice TapTapSee can do OK. 
Plus it is free.
HTH,
Richard



“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


  Hi Rich and Todd,

   

  Unfortunately iPhone apps for colour identification are all very problematic 
and inaccurate. The problem is that any results greatly depend on what light 
you are in, whether it is daylight or artificial light, direct or indirect 
light and on and on. Dedicated talking colour identifiers like the Colorino  
have an internal light source, you push the opening right up against what you 
want to identify and because all other light from the outside is cut off the 
results are much more accurate and consistent. I know that a talking colour 
identifier may be of very limited use to somebody who is hard of hearing and 
probably it is useless for the DeafBlind, but unfortunately all apps are 
equally bad at given good results. All in all it is probably easier if you tag 
your clothing with washable barcodes and code the barcodes with information as 
to what sort of material and colour the clothing is, then use an app like 
Digit-Eyes to read these labels since I am quite sure this would also work with 
a braille display.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: color id app

   

  Rich,

   

  I noticed the same thing as you said below months ago after downloading that 
Color ID app.  I can tell by the way it behaves, not from VO, but from what the 
Braille Sense U2 Mini Braille display said in Braille.

   

  If you or I moved the iPhone a little bit, it will make the camera see 
something where the color is still the same but makes the camera think 
differently.

   

  I have not used the app for a long time now.  It needs some improvements.

   

  My U2 Mini is muted so Braille is the only means.

   

  Todd

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: color id app

   

  dear sir, 

   

  I am brialle user. okay!

   

  I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing. 

   

  close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors. 

   

  have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around. 

   

  sincerely, 

  rich 

   

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Re: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread Hope Paulos 
Another option might be bespecular. Take a picture and get human feedback about 
colors of clothes. 

Hope Paulos

> On Nov 16, 2016, at 9:13 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Todd,
> 
> The reason I suggested TapTapSee, is that it is made by the same people who 
> make CamFind, but it doesn't clutter the screen with ads for where you can 
> buy things. Also, be sure you find the button when you install a camera app 
> that asks for permission to use the camera, otherwise they won't work at all. 
> Here is the link to TapTapSee - Blind & Visually Impaired Camera by CamFind 
> Inc.
> https://appsto.re/us/mXw1H.i
> 
> 
> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
> - Satsuki Shibuya
> 
> 
> (Sent from my iPod 6)
> 
> On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:04 AM, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
>> sieghard and richard,
>>  
>> very understanding. that is how I was given fro blind tech trainer who 
>> expalined to me. somehow, he forgot about multi-color like plaid, and desig. 
>> no problem. sieghard, yes, I deid in good light. wink!
>>  
>> richard, blind tech trainer said that digital eye is good for heairng blind 
>> who rely on voce, not brialle. so that is why I was advised not to use 
>> digital eye as well as blind square as they are mostly work in voice. we eed 
>> to depend on brialle display. wink1 thank you1
>>  
>> suincerely,
>> rich
>>  
>>  
>> From: Richard Turner
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: color id app
>>  
>>  
>> I have to mostly agree with Sieghard on this one.
>> Digit-Eyes sells labels that can be sown into clothes and will last through 
>> dozens of washing and drying cycles.
>> If you don't want to go to that extent, try TapTapSee. I am hoping the 
>> output stays on the screen long enough to use with a braille display. 
>> Sieghard is right, that the iPhone is not very good at color identification, 
>> but TapTapSee will at least identify patterns and if the light is good, at 
>> least come close on the color.
>> I've used it fairly successfully with shirts with a wide variety of patterns 
>> and colors and it is probably 75% accurate with color in mediocre lighting 
>> and gets better in good lighting.
>> But, you will always want sighted confirmation or good labels like Sieghard 
>> suggested for any time that being well dressed is important. If it is a 
>> casual event, and exact matching isn't necessary, with practice TapTapSee 
>> can do OK. Plus it is free.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
>> - Satsuki Shibuya
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPod 6)
>> 
>> On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Rich and Todd,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately iPhone apps for colour identification are all very 
>>> problematic and inaccurate. The problem is that any results greatly depend 
>>> on what light you are in, whether it is daylight or artificial light, 
>>> direct or indirect light and on and on. Dedicated talking colour 
>>> identifiers like the Colorino  have an internal light source, you push the 
>>> opening right up against what you want to identify and because all other 
>>> light from the outside is cut off the results are much more accurate and 
>>> consistent. I know that a talking colour identifier may be of very limited 
>>> use to somebody who is hard of hearing and probably it is useless for the 
>>> DeafBlind, but unfortunately all apps are equally bad at given good 
>>> results. All in all it is probably easier if you tag your clothing with 
>>> washable barcodes and code the barcodes with information as to what sort of 
>>> material and colour the clothing is, then use an app like Digit-Eyes to 
>>> read these labels since I am quite sure this would also work with a braille 
>>> display.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Todd Patkus
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: color id app
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Rich,
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I

Re: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread Richard Turner 
Todd,

The reason I suggested TapTapSee, is that it is made by the same people who 
make CamFind, but it doesn't clutter the screen with ads for where you can buy 
things. Also, be sure you find the button when you install a camera app that 
asks for permission to use the camera, otherwise they won't work at all. Here 
is the link to TapTapSee - Blind & Visually Impaired Camera by CamFind Inc.
https://appsto.re/us/mXw1H.i


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 16, 2016, at 6:04 AM, Paul Richard McGann 
<rkmcg...@comcast.net<mailto:rkmcg...@comcast.net>> wrote:

sieghard and richard,

very understanding. that is how I was given fro blind tech trainer who 
expalined to me. somehow, he forgot about multi-color like plaid, and desig. no 
problem. sieghard, yes, I deid in good light. wink!

richard, blind tech trainer said that digital eye is good for heairng blind who 
rely on voce, not brialle. so that is why I was advised not to use digital eye 
as well as blind square as they are mostly work in voice. we eed to depend on 
brialle display. wink1 thank you1

suincerely,
rich


From: Richard Turner<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: color id app


I have to mostly agree with Sieghard on this one.
Digit-Eyes sells labels that can be sown into clothes and will last through 
dozens of washing and drying cycles.
If you don't want to go to that extent, try TapTapSee. I am hoping the output 
stays on the screen long enough to use with a braille display. Sieghard is 
right, that the iPhone is not very good at color identification, but TapTapSee 
will at least identify patterns and if the light is good, at least come close 
on the color.
I've used it fairly successfully with shirts with a wide variety of patterns 
and colors and it is probably 75% accurate with color in mediocre lighting and 
gets better in good lighting.
But, you will always want sighted confirmation or good labels like Sieghard 
suggested for any time that being well dressed is important. If it is a casual 
event, and exact matching isn't necessary, with practice TapTapSee can do OK. 
Plus it is free.
HTH,
Richard


“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya


(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Rich and Todd,

Unfortunately iPhone apps for colour identification are all very problematic 
and inaccurate. The problem is that any results greatly depend on what light 
you are in, whether it is daylight or artificial light, direct or indirect 
light and on and on. Dedicated talking colour identifiers like the Colorino  
have an internal light source, you push the opening right up against what you 
want to identify and because all other light from the outside is cut off the 
results are much more accurate and consistent. I know that a talking colour 
identifier may be of very limited use to somebody who is hard of hearing and 
probably it is useless for the DeafBlind, but unfortunately all apps are 
equally bad at given good results. All in all it is probably easier if you tag 
your clothing with washable barcodes and code the barcodes with information as 
to what sort of material and colour the clothing is, then use an app like 
Digit-Eyes to read these labels since I am quite sure this would also work with 
a braille display.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: color id app

Rich,

I noticed the same thing as you said below months ago after downloading that 
Color ID app.  I can tell by the way it behaves, not from VO, but from what the 
Braille Sense U2 Mini Braille display said in Braille.

If you or I moved the iPhone a little bit, it will make the camera see 
something where the color is still the same but makes the camera think 
differently.

I have not used the app for a long time now.  It needs some improvements.

My U2 Mini is muted so Braille is the only means.

Todd

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: color id app

dear sir,

I am brialle user. okay!

I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing.

close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few time

Re: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread Paul Richard McGann 
sieghard and richard, 

very understanding. that is how I was given fro blind tech trainer who 
expalined to me. somehow, he forgot about multi-color like plaid, and desig. no 
problem. sieghard, yes, I deid in good light. wink! 

richard, blind tech trainer said that digital eye is good for heairng blind who 
rely on voce, not brialle. so that is why I was advised not to use digital eye 
as well as blind square as they are mostly work in voice. we eed to depend on 
brialle display. wink1 thank you1

suincerely, 
rich 


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 11:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: color id app


I have to mostly agree with Sieghard on this one.
Digit-Eyes sells labels that can be sown into clothes and will last through 
dozens of washing and drying cycles.
If you don't want to go to that extent, try TapTapSee. I am hoping the output 
stays on the screen long enough to use with a braille display. Sieghard is 
right, that the iPhone is not very good at color identification, but TapTapSee 
will at least identify patterns and if the light is good, at least come close 
on the color.
I've used it fairly successfully with shirts with a wide variety of patterns 
and colors and it is probably 75% accurate with color in mediocre lighting and 
gets better in good lighting.
But, you will always want sighted confirmation or good labels like Sieghard 
suggested for any time that being well dressed is important. If it is a casual 
event, and exact matching isn't necessary, with practice TapTapSee can do OK. 
Plus it is free.
HTH,
Richard



“By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others."
- Satsuki Shibuya




(Sent from my iPod 6)

On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:


  Hi Rich and Todd,

   

  Unfortunately iPhone apps for colour identification are all very problematic 
and inaccurate. The problem is that any results greatly depend on what light 
you are in, whether it is daylight or artificial light, direct or indirect 
light and on and on. Dedicated talking colour identifiers like the Colorino  
have an internal light source, you push the opening right up against what you 
want to identify and because all other light from the outside is cut off the 
results are much more accurate and consistent. I know that a talking colour 
identifier may be of very limited use to somebody who is hard of hearing and 
probably it is useless for the DeafBlind, but unfortunately all apps are 
equally bad at given good results. All in all it is probably easier if you tag 
your clothing with washable barcodes and code the barcodes with information as 
to what sort of material and colour the clothing is, then use an app like 
Digit-Eyes to read these labels since I am quite sure this would also work with 
a braille display.

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: color id app

   

  Rich,

   

  I noticed the same thing as you said below months ago after downloading that 
Color ID app.  I can tell by the way it behaves, not from VO, but from what the 
Braille Sense U2 Mini Braille display said in Braille.

   

  If you or I moved the iPhone a little bit, it will make the camera see 
something where the color is still the same but makes the camera think 
differently.

   

  I have not used the app for a long time now.  It needs some improvements.

   

  My U2 Mini is muted so Braille is the only means.

   

  Todd

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
  Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: color id app

   

  dear sir, 

   

  I am brialle user. okay!

   

  I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing. 

   

  close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors. 

   

  have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around. 

   

  sincerely, 

  rich 

   

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RE: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread Rose Combs 
In my experience none of the IOS color apps work.  

 

Rose Combs

roseco...@q.com <mailto:roseco...@q.com> 

 

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: color id app

 

Todd,
I'm not sure, I only have a 12 cell braille display and don't use it very much. 
but, as the app is free, why don't you try it? when you download the app and 
the opening page is shown flick twice to the right and you should be able to 
read take picture or something like that. then,  aiming the back of the phone 
to whatever it is you want to photograph, perhaps, your own legs! and double 
tap with one finger. The app does the rest. I just did this to myself and it 
said "black textile" which was correct as I am wearing a black dressinggown. 
let me know if it works for you!
Good luck, you do have to be connected to the Internet though. Sandye


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 16 Nov 2016, at 10:45, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com 
<mailto:tpte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sandy,

 

Is Camfind accessible for Braille users?

 

Todd

 

From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: color id app

 

rich,
Try camfind. It is a free app so you have nothing to lose. It is really to 
recognise products, but it works very well as a colour recogniser too!
Good luck, Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 16 Nov 2016, at 01:36, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net 
<mailto:rkmcg...@comcast.net> > wrote:

dear sir, 

 

I am brialle user. okay!

 

I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing. 

 

close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors. 

 

have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around. 

 

sincerely, 

rich 

 

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Re: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
Todd,
I'm not sure, I only have a 12 cell braille display and don't use it very much. 
but, as the app is free, why don't you try it? when you download the app and 
the opening page is shown flick twice to the right and you should be able to 
read take picture or something like that. then,  aiming the back of the phone 
to whatever it is you want to photograph, perhaps, your own legs! and double 
tap with one finger. The app does the rest. I just did this to myself and it 
said "black textile" which was correct as I am wearing a black dressinggown. 
let me know if it works for you!
Good luck, you do have to be connected to the Internet though. Sandye

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 16 Nov 2016, at 10:45, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Sandy,
>  
> Is Camfind accessible for Braille users?
>  
> Todd
>  
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: color id app
>  
> rich,
> Try camfind. It is a free app so you have nothing to lose. It is really to 
> recognise products, but it works very well as a colour recogniser too!
> Good luck, Sandy
> 
> sent from the dark side of the moon
> 
> On 16 Nov 2016, at 01:36, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> dear sir,
>  
> I am brialle user. okay!
>  
> I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing.
>  
> close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
> multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
> plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few 
> times they change different colors.
>  
> have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
> around.
>  
> sincerely,
> rich
>  
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RE: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread Todd Patkus 
Sandy,

 

Is Camfind accessible for Braille users?

 

Todd

 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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rich,
Try camfind. It is a free app so you have nothing to lose. It is really to 
recognise products, but it works very well as a colour recogniser too!
Good luck, Sandy


sent from the dark side of the moon


On 16 Nov 2016, at 01:36, Paul Richard McGann <rkmcg...@comcast.net 
<mailto:rkmcg...@comcast.net> > wrote:

dear sir, 

 

I am brialle user. okay!

 

I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing. 

 

close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors. 

 

have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around. 

 

sincerely, 

rich 

 

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Re: color id app

2016-11-16 Thread 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
rich,
Try camfind. It is a free app so you have nothing to lose. It is really to 
recognise products, but it works very well as a colour recogniser too!
Good luck, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

> On 16 Nov 2016, at 01:36, Paul Richard McGann  wrote:
> 
> dear sir,
>  
> I am brialle user. okay!
>  
> I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing.
>  
> close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
> multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
> plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few 
> times they change different colors.
>  
> have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
> around.
>  
> sincerely,
> rich
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Re: color id app

2016-11-15 Thread Richard Turner 

I have to mostly agree with Sieghard on this one.
Digit-Eyes sells labels that can be sown into clothes and will last through 
dozens of washing and drying cycles.
If you don't want to go to that extent, try TapTapSee. I am hoping the output 
stays on the screen long enough to use with a braille display. Sieghard is 
right, that the iPhone is not very good at color identification, but TapTapSee 
will at least identify patterns and if the light is good, at least come close 
on the color.
I've used it fairly successfully with shirts with a wide variety of patterns 
and colors and it is probably 75% accurate with color in mediocre lighting and 
gets better in good lighting.
But, you will always want sighted confirmation or good labels like Sieghard 
suggested for any time that being well dressed is important. If it is a casual 
event, and exact matching isn't necessary, with practice TapTapSee can do OK. 
Plus it is free.
HTH,
Richard


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On Nov 15, 2016, at 8:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
<siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Hi Rich and Todd,

Unfortunately iPhone apps for colour identification are all very problematic 
and inaccurate. The problem is that any results greatly depend on what light 
you are in, whether it is daylight or artificial light, direct or indirect 
light and on and on. Dedicated talking colour identifiers like the Colorino  
have an internal light source, you push the opening right up against what you 
want to identify and because all other light from the outside is cut off the 
results are much more accurate and consistent. I know that a talking colour 
identifier may be of very limited use to somebody who is hard of hearing and 
probably it is useless for the DeafBlind, but unfortunately all apps are 
equally bad at given good results. All in all it is probably easier if you tag 
your clothing with washable barcodes and code the barcodes with information as 
to what sort of material and colour the clothing is, then use an app like 
Digit-Eyes to read these labels since I am quite sure this would also work with 
a braille display.

Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: color id app

Rich,

I noticed the same thing as you said below months ago after downloading that 
Color ID app.  I can tell by the way it behaves, not from VO, but from what the 
Braille Sense U2 Mini Braille display said in Braille.

If you or I moved the iPhone a little bit, it will make the camera see 
something where the color is still the same but makes the camera think 
differently.

I have not used the app for a long time now.  It needs some improvements.

My U2 Mini is muted so Braille is the only means.

Todd

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: color id app

dear sir,

I am brialle user. okay!

I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing.

close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors.

have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around.

sincerely,
rich

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RE: color id app

2016-11-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel 
Hi Rich and Todd,

Unfortunately iPhone apps for colour identification are all very problematic 
and inaccurate. The problem is that any results greatly depend on what light 
you are in, whether it is daylight or artificial light, direct or indirect 
light and on and on. Dedicated talking colour identifiers like the Colorino  
have an internal light source, you push the opening right up against what you 
want to identify and because all other light from the outside is cut off the 
results are much more accurate and consistent. I know that a talking colour 
identifier may be of very limited use to somebody who is hard of hearing and 
probably it is useless for the DeafBlind, but unfortunately all apps are 
equally bad at given good results. All in all it is probably easier if you tag 
your clothing with washable barcodes and code the barcodes with information as 
to what sort of material and colour the clothing is, then use an app like 
Digit-Eyes to read these labels since I am quite sure this would also work with 
a braille display.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Todd Patkus
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 5:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: color id app

Rich,

I noticed the same thing as you said below months ago after downloading that 
Color ID app.  I can tell by the way it behaves, not from VO, but from what the 
Braille Sense U2 Mini Braille display said in Braille.

If you or I moved the iPhone a little bit, it will make the camera see 
something where the color is still the same but makes the camera think 
differently.

I have not used the app for a long time now.  It needs some improvements.

My U2 Mini is muted so Braille is the only means.

Todd

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: color id app

dear sir,

I am brialle user. okay!

I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing.

close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors.

have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around.

sincerely,
rich

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RE: color id app

2016-11-15 Thread Todd Patkus 
Rich,

 

I noticed the same thing as you said below months ago after downloading that 
Color ID app.  I can tell by the way it behaves, not from VO, but from what the 
Braille Sense U2 Mini Braille display said in Braille.

 

If you or I moved the iPhone a little bit, it will make the camera see 
something where the color is still the same but makes the camera think 
differently.

 

I have not used the app for a long time now.  It needs some improvements.

 

My U2 Mini is muted so Braille is the only means.

 

Todd

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Richard McGann
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 7:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: color id app

 

dear sir, 

 

I am brialle user. okay!

 

I did test say color and color id appa as there is osmthing. 

 

close friend said that she listened to voice and said that since my shirt has 
multi-colors. so say color and color id only pick one color instead of saying 
plaid or something like this. I tried few times again on my shirt and few times 
they change different colors. 

 

have you notice anything like this? do they change colors if you move iphone 
around. 

 

sincerely, 

rich 

 

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