Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:45:18PM CET, pa...@nvidia.com wrote:
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>> From: Jiri Pirko
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 5:05 AM
>
>> >For example a common feature is to program a vlan and have device put a
>> >given VF inside this vlan.
>>
>> I don't follow entirely. The way how the VF is connected
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:25:32PM CET, pa...@nvidia.com wrote:
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>> From: virtio-comm...@lists.oasis-open.org > open.org> On Behalf Of David Edmondson
>
>> In support of live migration, might we end up moving large amounts of device
>> state through the admin queue?
>>
>Correct.
>
>> If so, that wou
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:09:22PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:58:59PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>> We have a non-spec prototypes for LM so please use our experience in this
>> area.
>
>Don't see what the fuss is about. Nothing will prevent your device from
>using a singl
On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 02:29:31AM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> please use "Co-developed-by:" for this patch
Sure.
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在 2023/3/8 下午10:39, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 10:56:31AM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
在 2023/2/28 下午7:16, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:37:15PM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
If the tunnel is used to encapsulate the packets, the hash calculated
using the outer head
在 2023/3/9 上午6:30, Parav Pandit 写道:
From: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org On
Behalf Of Heng Qi
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:27 PM
I remember we discussed that instead of mentioning each individual field,
better to describe the whole structure being read-only or write-only.
Consider th
> From: virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org On
> Behalf Of Heng Qi
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:27 PM
>
> > I remember we discussed that instead of mentioning each individual field,
> better to describe the whole structure being read-only or write-only.
>
> Consider the following scenarios:
>
> From: Jiri Pirko
> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 5:05 AM
> >For example a common feature is to program a vlan and have device put a
> >given VF inside this vlan.
>
> I don't follow entirely. The way how the VF is connected to network should be
> ouf of the scope of this interface. The eswit
> From: virtio-comm...@lists.oasis-open.org open.org> On Behalf Of David Edmondson
> In support of live migration, might we end up moving large amounts of device
> state through the admin queue?
>
Correct.
> If so, that would seem to have some performance requirements, though I don't
> know i
> From: Michael S. Tsirkin
> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 4:09 PM
>
> On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:58:59PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > We have a non-spec prototypes for LM so please use our experience in
> > this area.
>
> Don't see what the fuss is about. Nothing will prevent your device
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:58:59PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> We have a non-spec prototypes for LM so please use our experience in this
> area.
Don't see what the fuss is about. Nothing will prevent your device from
using a single queue if that is what you want.
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Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 05:30:21PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 06:52:03PM +, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> > And I wonder whether it's worth it - it definitely makes contributing to
>> > Linux
>> > harder, and even within Linux it pushes contributors away.
>> The number of virt
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 07:01:02PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
>Max Gurtovoy writes:
>
>> On 08/03/2023 14:08, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:50:48PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:05:00AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 05:30
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 05:30:48PM CET, coh...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 06 2023, "Michael S. Tsirkin" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:29:30PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>>> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:04:48PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> >
>>> >TODO (maybe?) - probably o
Max Gurtovoy writes:
> On 08/03/2023 14:08, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:50:48PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:05:00AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 05:30:18PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:36:41AM +0
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 04:42:25PM +, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
> > From: Michael S. Tsirkin
> > Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 5:57 PM
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 11:36:18AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
> > > > +for an enabled
> > > > transmit/receive
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 05:30:48PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06 2023, "Michael S. Tsirkin" wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:29:30PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:04:48PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
> >>
> >> [...]
> >>
> >> >
> >> >TODO (maybe?) -
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:15:23PM -0500, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > Or we could say that admin commands must complete within bounded time,
> > > > > but I'm not sure that is implementable for some device types like
> > > > > virtio-blk, virtio-scsi, and virtiofs.
> > > >
> > > > No we can't
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:57:43PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:44:18PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
> >On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:17:35AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:03:47PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
> >> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 04:07:54PM
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 06:19:41PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>
>
> On 08/03/2023 16:13, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:17:33PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 06/03/2023 18:25, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 05:28:03PM +0200, Max G
> From: Michael S. Tsirkin
> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 5:57 PM
>
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 11:36:18AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
> > > +for an enabled transmit/receive
> > > virtqueue whose
> number is \field{vqn}.
> >
> > Should this now be "whose
> From: Cornelia Huck
> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 11:24 AM
> >> And I wonder whether it's worth it - it definitely makes contributing
> >> to Linux harder, and even within Linux it pushes contributors away.
> > The number of virtio spec contributors are in order of magnitude less than
> L
On Mon, Mar 06 2023, "Michael S. Tsirkin" wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:29:30PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:04:48PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >
>> >TODO (maybe?) - probably ok to defer until this part is upstream:
>> >
>> >Add "all members"
On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 06:52:03PM +, Parav Pandit wrote:
> > And I wonder whether it's worth it - it definitely makes contributing to
> > Linux
> > harder, and even within Linux it pushes contributors away.
> The number of virtio spec contributors are in order of magnitude less
> than Linux
On Tue, Mar 07 2023, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> From: Michael S. Tsirkin
>> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 3:34 AM
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 06:40:55PM +, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> > Did you miss reviewed-by from [1] or this is an old series reposted?
>> > [1]
>> > https://lists.oasis-open.org/ar
> From: Stefan Hajnoczi
> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 9:13 AM
> Therefore I think the admin queue must be designed under the assumption that
> some commands take a very long time.
+1
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 03:05:50PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> All drivers in SW world ? All drivers in Linux ? or Virtio drivers ?
Most of the above.
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 03:16:41PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07 2023, David Edmondson wrote:
>
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
> >
> >> On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:53:50PM +, David Edmondson wrote:
> >>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
> >>>
> >>> > Feature negotiation forms t
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 03:43:14PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 08 2023, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>
> > On 08/03/2023 14:07, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:55:37PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > 5. VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_COMMAND_SPECIFIC_ERR (for more info read
On Wed, Mar 08 2023, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> On 08/03/2023 14:07, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:55:37PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> 5. VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_COMMAND_SPECIFIC_ERR (for more info read the
> command_specific_error field).
I don't think it's a
On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 10:56:31AM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
>
>
> 在 2023/2/28 下午7:16, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
> > On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 10:37:15PM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
> > > If the tunnel is used to encapsulate the packets, the hash calculated
> > > using the outer header of the receive packets is
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:27:13PM +0800, Heng Qi wrote:
> Do you have any comments, please?
>
> Thanks. :)
>
> 在 2023/3/6 下午11:48, Heng Qi 写道:
It's been just 2 partial days. Sit tight pls.
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在 2023/3/7 上午6:57, Michael S. Tsirkin 写道:
On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 11:36:18AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
+for an enabled transmit/receive
virtqueue whose number is \field{vqn}.
Should this now be "whose index is \field{vqn}"?
Ugh. I guess we'll ha
On Tue, Mar 07 2023, David Edmondson wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:53:50PM +, David Edmondson wrote:
>>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>>>
>>> > Feature negotiation forms the basis of forward compatibility
>>> > guarantees of virtio but has never been
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:17:33PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>
>
> On 06/03/2023 18:25, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 05:28:03PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 06/03/2023 13:20, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 04:00:50PM +0800, Jason
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 03:02:05PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 02:44:08PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
> >Jiri Pirko writes:
> >
> >> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:59:10PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
> >>>"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
> >>>
> On Tue, Mar 07,
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 02:44:08PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
>Jiri Pirko writes:
>
>> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:59:10PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
>>>"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>>>
On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 11:04:33AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirki
Jiri Pirko writes:
> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:59:10PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
>>"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 11:04:33AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
> +The driver MAY block use of VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_QUERY an
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 02:05:01PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:59:10PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
> >"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 11:04:33AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
> >>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
> >>> > +The driver MAY
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:59:10PM CET, david.edmond...@oracle.com wrote:
>"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 11:04:33AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
>>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>>> > +The driver MAY block use of VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_QUERY and
>>> > +VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LI
"Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 11:04:33AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
>> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>> > +The driver MAY block use of VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_QUERY and
>> > +VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_USE by issuing VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_USE
>> > +with respective bits cleare
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:44:18PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:17:35AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:03:47PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
>> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 04:07:54PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> >> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 03:39:11PM CET,
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:17:35AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:03:47PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 04:07:54PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 03:39:11PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
> >> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 09:03:18AM
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:54:52PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:22:30PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:05:22PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>> >Add commands to find out which commands does each group support,
>> >as well as enable their use by driver.
>>
Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:05:22PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>Add commands to find out which commands does each group support,
>as well as enable their use by driver.
>This will be especially useful once we have multiple group types.
>
>An alternative is per-type VQs. This is possible but will
>requ
Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:50:48PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:05:00AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 05:30:18PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:36:41AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> >> Hmm, if not for now, the future exension woul
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 12:55:37PM +0200, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
> > > 5. VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_COMMAND_SPECIFIC_ERR (for more info read the
> > > command_specific_error field).
> >
> > I don't think it's a good idea, we'll have to agree to disagree.
>
> Ok.
> can you explain why isn't this a good ide
On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 12:31:51PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 09:23:14PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
> >On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 08:18:43AM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >> On Fri, Mar 03, 2023 at 08:13:37AM -0500, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 0
> From: Jason Wang
> Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2023 12:12 AM
> > In other words, can AQ command be useful tomorrow for doing SIOV device
> add/remove, and provisioning from non-owning PF?
> > The way AQ is crafted today is not there yet, but in the future, it can be
> extended.
>
> There's al
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:17:44PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 3:09 AM Parav Pandit wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Stefan Hajnoczi
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 2:04 PM
> >
> > > An alternative is unconditional out-of-order completion, where there are
> > > no
> > > pe
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 01:17:44PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 3:09 AM Parav Pandit wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: Stefan Hajnoczi
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 2:04 PM
> >
> > > An alternative is unconditional out-of-order completion, where there are
> > > no
> > > pe
On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 11:04:33AM +, David Edmondson wrote:
> "Michael S. Tsirkin" writes:
>
> > Add conformance clauses for admin commands and admin virtqueues.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin
> > ---
> > admin.tex | 216 +-
> >
On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:22:30PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:05:22PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
> >Add commands to find out which commands does each group support,
> >as well as enable their use by driver.
> >This will be especially useful once we have multiple group types
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:05:00AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 05:30:18PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:36:41AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> Hmm, if not for now, the future exension would not be so simple, I fear.
> >
> >Without knowing what it is I
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 11:08:56AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 05:13:01PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 09:03:18AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >> I sense there is no concete idea about what the "admin virtqueue" should
> >> serve for exactly.
> >
> >Becau
Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:03:47PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 04:07:54PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 03:39:11PM CET, stefa...@redhat.com wrote:
>> >On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 09:03:18AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> >> Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 07:37:31PM CET,
Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 05:13:01PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 09:03:18AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> I sense there is no concete idea about what the "admin virtqueue" should
>> serve for exactly.
>
>Because the virtqueue is just a virtqueue - a way to pass around
>commands.
On Tue, Mar 07 2023, Parav Pandit wrote:
> Hi Cornelia,
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Cornelia Huck
>> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 9:32 AM
>> To: Parav Pandit ; m...@redhat.com; virtio-dev@lists.oasis-
>> open.org
>> Cc: virtio-comm...@lists.oasis-open.org; Shahaf Shuler
>> Subject:
Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 05:30:18PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:36:41AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Hmm, if not for now, the future exension would not be so simple, I fear.
>
>Without knowing what it is I can't say.
Yep, so basically you say, for other things if they appear
Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 06:20:03PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 07, 2023 at 08:21:54AM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 11:54:45PM CET, m...@redhat.com wrote:
>> >On Mon, Mar 06, 2023 at 01:29:30PM +0100, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> >> Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 02:04:48PM CET, m...@red
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