Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-28 Thread Nathan Anderson
Colton Conor write: However, it sounds like inband is the best anyways for DMTF for alarms, so I am not sure this will help since Adtran only supports inband already. Yes, that was precisely my point: you don't need T.38 and RFC2833 support in your customer-facing switch, just so that you can

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-28 Thread Colton Conor
*To:* Paul Timmins *Cc:* voiceops@voiceops.org *Subject:* Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Know anything about other vendors besides Adtran and Zhone? What about Calix and ALU? Do their POTs/Combo cards support T.38 and RFC-2833? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Paul Timmins p

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-27 Thread Nathan Anderson
with the monitoring system and get more value out of it that way. -- Nathan From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Alcantar Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 10:33 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Has anyone had

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-27 Thread Nathan Anderson
programming by the original installer/monitoring company or not. Pretty genius. -- Nathan From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Anderson Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:11 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? My

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-26 Thread Nathan Anderson
[mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 7:27 PM To: Paul Timmins Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Know anything about other vendors besides Adtran and Zhone? What about Calix and ALU? Do their POTs/Combo

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-26 Thread Paul Timmins
, August 26, 2015 7:27 PM To: Paul Timmins Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Know anything about other vendors besides Adtran and Zhone? What about Calix and ALU? Do their POTs/Combo cards support T.38 and RFC-2833? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 6:21

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-10 Thread Kidd Filby
I've seen a lot of things go sideways over my 30+ years in this business. Put the alarms on a re-sold POTS line from the LEC and call it a day. Anything other than this is placing your customer and your company at risk. If, by chance, the line goes dead... you have done all that could have been

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-10 Thread Colton Conor
Many of you don't seem to understand that the technology is equivalent security and power wise to what the ILEC is providing. We are not going to resell ILEC POTS lines. We want to make our own POTS lines work with alarm panels. This is for residential customers not business. On Mon, Aug 10, 2015

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-10 Thread Colton Conor
Paul, So is this just a limitation of Adtran's implementation of SIP on the 5000, or are all MSAN's from Vendors like Calix, Zhone, and ALU the same way? On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Paul Timmins p...@timmins.net wrote: On 08/10/2015 08:49 AM, Colton Conor wrote: I wonder if it is

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-10 Thread Paul Timmins
On 08/10/2015 06:36 PM, Colton Conor wrote: Paul, So is this just a limitation of Adtran's implementation of SIP on the 5000, or are all MSAN's from Vendors like Calix, Zhone, and ALU the same way? Specific to the 5k. We have some older Zhone equipment that does T.38 and RFC-2833 and mid

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-10 Thread Colton Conor
] On Behalf Of David Thompson Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:42 AM To: Colton Conor; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Alarm systems being serviced over VoIP are generally speaking a very bad idea. What are you supposed to do when and if the power fails

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-10 Thread Pawlowski, Adam
All, I appreciate the insight into this with regard to alarms, especially that they'd trip up T.38, which will probably save me some time in the future. So far so good on alarms and credit card machines, but I'd run into some older CPE type Cisco VG that would mangle and eat modem

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-08 Thread frnkblk
; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Alarm systems being serviced over VoIP are generally speaking a very bad idea. What are you supposed to do when and if the power fails? A UPS is only going to last for so long hours maybe. An analog CO line gets power

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-07 Thread Nathan Anderson
] On Behalf Of David Thompson Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 11:42 AM To: Colton Conor; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Alarm systems being serviced over VoIP are generally speaking a very bad idea. What are you supposed to do when and if the power fails? A UPS

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-07 Thread Rob Dawson
Timmins Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:35 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Many alarm systems use Ademco Contact ID which requires very tight tolerances on the DTMF. I actually just had to demand firmware changes to our TDM switch's packet

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-07 Thread David Thompson
:21 PM *To:* voiceops@voiceops.org *Subject:* [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? We are a CLEC and have a had a couple of customers port away from Verizon's landline service and to our voice service where we provided an analog POTS line with the same number just as the client had before

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-07 Thread Paul Timmins
*Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 6:21 PM *To:* voiceops@voiceops.org mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org *Subject:* [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? We are a CLEC and have a had a couple of customers port away from Verizon's landline service and to our voice service where we provided an analog POTS

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-07 Thread Lee Riemer
[mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 8:55 PM To: Nathan Anderson; Jay Hennigan Cc: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Wow thanks to all this has been a huge help! So we are using a Broadsoft for the voice switch

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-07 Thread Nathan Anderson
[mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Rob Dawson Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 8:37 AM To: Paul Timmins; voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? I was going to touch on t.38 as well - I know that postage meters will trigger t.38 which will then cause

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-07 Thread GregoryB
@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? This statement is not quite correct in case of FIOS or U-Verse - whenever those services fail - there is NO connection to CO. Unfortunately - those services are known to fail. Even worse - in case of a natural or manmade disaster

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-06 Thread Paul Timmins
- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 4:30 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org mailto:voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? I did find this page http

[VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-06 Thread Colton Conor
We are a CLEC and have a had a couple of customers port away from Verizon's landline service and to our voice service where we provided an analog POTS line with the same number just as the client had before with Verizon. We hook the POTS line up to the exact same wire going to the client's alarm

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-06 Thread Nathan Anderson
Of Paul Timmins Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 5:35 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? Many alarm systems use Ademco Contact ID which requires very tight tolerances on the DTMF. I actually just had to demand firmware changes to our TDM switch's packet

Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing?

2015-08-06 Thread Nathan Anderson
, LLC nath...@fsr.com -Original Message- From: VoiceOps [mailto:voiceops-boun...@voiceops.org] On Behalf Of Colton Conor Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 4:30 PM To: voiceops@voiceops.org Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] ADT Alarms Special Dialing? I did find this page http://www.adt.com/customer