Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-05 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
m> > To: "NSP Strategist" <pe...@4isps.com> > Cc: "voiceops@voiceops.org" <voiceops@voiceops.org> > Sent: Thursday, December 3, 2015 3:24:32 PM > Subject: Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing > On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Peter Rad. wrote: > >>

Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-03 Thread Peter Beckman
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Carlos Alvarez wrote: I agree with you, and I'd ask the carrier to remove that. It sounds like you haven't asked yet. The whole thing is highly negotiable anyway, since it wasn't an actual cost to them. You might even get them to drop it or severely reduce the overage

Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
(305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "Peter Beckman" <beck...@angryox.com> > To: "voiceops@voiceops.org" <voiceops@voiceops.org> > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 9:23:39 PM > Subject:

Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-03 Thread Peter Beckman
On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Peter Rad. wrote: USF is 16% -- you are all worked up over how much money? Emails to the list, frustration, looking up the law references -- you probably blew more time on this issue than what the actually fee was. Yeah, probably. I understand it is the "principle" of

Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-03 Thread Mark R Lindsey
If I read this right, I think Peter's offering to pay any invalid USF fees. Such holiday generosity! :-) > On Dec 3, 2015, at 14:30 , Peter Rad. wrote: > > USF is 16% -- you are all worked up over how much money? > Emails to the list, frustration, looking up the law

Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-03 Thread Peter Rad.
Just offering a perspective that the fee was probably less than the time spent. You can make more money; you cannot make more time. On 12/3/2015 2:57 PM, Mark R Lindsey wrote: If I read this right, I think Peter's offering to pay any invalid USF fees. Such holiday generosity! :-) On Dec

Re: [VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-02 Thread Paul Timmins
IANAL but that's how I read it too. USF is to be levied on interstate services (of which voip is automatically because internet) and a contract shortfall is neither federal in jurisdiction nor a telecommunications service. > On Dec 2, 2015, at 19:23, Peter Beckman wrote:

[VoiceOps] USF and Minimum Billing

2015-12-02 Thread Peter Beckman
Hey Folks -- I've got a carrier to which I've made a minimum commitment. I didn't get around to getting my spend up to the commit, and when my contract renewed, they billed me a minimum commit fee. Understandable, and I'm fine paying it. I didn't get anything for it -- zero telecom-related