Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 19942e77-f4fd-4ba5-82cd-75a35bb5a...@gmail.com, Richard Moore writ es: Heavy gauge wire is only needed for current measurements, which I seldom do. Heavy gauge wire has different thermal behaviour than think wire (area deepends on radius squared, surface only on radius) It

Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-28 Thread Richard Moore
Randy — not sure why you feel the need for shielded wire for DC measurements, especially if you turn the LP filter on, unless you live under a transmitter. I use twisted pair 22 ga. solid copper bell wire for voltage measurments with no difficulties, and the thermals reduce very quickly. Silver

Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-28 Thread John Phillips
Dick it is all in trying to get the last little bit of accuracy out of the meter. 1000 NPLC and or math stat would do better than messing with the leads... All this gets into the law of diminishing returns. 1 ohm test lead in series with a 10Meg input resistance that only come into play on the 2

Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-27 Thread Richard Moore
Randy — My 3458A manual specs 12 or 14 gauge solid copper wire for the short, bunt in to a U shape. I use 14 gauge. Poul-Henning’s comments about thermals are well-taken — even a simple folded up carboard shield helps. But I think you’re near the limit.

Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-27 Thread J M via volt-nuts
I use a 8 oz styrofoam cup to isolate air currents around the 3458A terminals when zeroing with shorting bar Sent from my 20 Texas sized iPhone On Jul 27, 2015, at 2:57 PM, Richard Moore richiem5...@gmail.com wrote: Randy — My 3458A manual specs 12 or 14 gauge solid copper wire for

Re: [volt-nuts] 3458A Zero reading

2015-07-27 Thread Randy Evans
I used a 12 AWG wire formed into a U shape for the short and the zero voltage measured less than 0.2 uV after a good 2+ hour warmup. However, I am seeing drifts of several uV for the 752 calibration. I was using TV twin lead to connect the 732 to 752 and 752 to 3458A since that's really all I