Re: [Vo]:Air threads

2007-10-11 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Horace Heffner wrote: On Oct 8, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: Neat. Do you think water could be parted using similar techniques? Sure. Just apply like polarities to the two beakers. I tried this experiment long ago, but it didn't work. I'm pretty sure that

Re: [VO]: Tripod base required for LENR

2007-10-11 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, PHILIP WINESTONE wrote: Nice stuff... But kind of circular... Nah, it's more like martial arts technique. :) See what needs doing, see from all angles simultaneously, then go knock heads together as needed. I've gone through the stages of: 1. being an asshole who attacks

Re: [Vo]:If we win, history will judge us as moderates

2007-10-11 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jed Rothwell wrote: This version of history will never be corrected unless we win the debate. There's also the Tesla timeline: keep your integrity, lose the fight, yet become an underground hero many decades after death. If Tesla had been a real asshole, I doubt he'd have

Re: [Vo]:However, some skeptics are jackasses . . .

2007-10-11 Thread William Beaty
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Jed Rothwell wrote: By the same token, since we cannot read minds, we cannot rule out the possibility that some skeptics are malevolent jerks. Ah, but then other rules come into play: argue with an idiot and they'll drag you down to their level, then beat you through

Re: [Vo]:However, some skeptics are jackasses . . .

2007-10-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
William Beaty wrote: By the same token, since we cannot read minds, we cannot rule out the possibility that some skeptics are malevolent jerks. Ah, but then other rules come into play: argue with an idiot and they'll drag you down to their level, then beat you through experience. I agree,

Re: [VO]: Tripod base required for LENR

2007-10-11 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
I like your approach. (Incidentally I've been a martial arts person for countless years.) But I must say that the chances of cleaning out the psychogical crap are essentially nil. But we can begin to see who or what has this psychological crap not that there's anything wrong with having

Re: [VO]: Tripod base required for LENR

2007-10-11 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Philip wrote.. In fact we all do it; when we meet someone, we know almost immediately who or what we're dealing with, although we more often than not deny what we're seeing or hide from it. Human stuff. Howdy Philip and Bill, Been an interesting and revealing thread. Remember I was born

Re: [VO]: Tripod base required for LENR

2007-10-11 Thread PHILIP WINESTONE
Um... The scientific/rational side of me says What? The non-rational (intuitive) side of me says, What.? Two different whats. So there's your answer. P. - Original Message From: R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:13:28 PM

[Vo]:Let there be light

2007-10-11 Thread Jones Beene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJvFd3pYBnM

Re: [Vo]:Let there be light

2007-10-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Cool video ;-) Do you happen to know -- did the earlier videos in the series say, perhaps -- what frequency this is operating at? He says the signal generator is putting out 2 v p-p, less than a mA; he also says it's going through a 10 K resistor which kind of suggests it's putting out a

Re: [Vo]:Let there be light

2007-10-11 Thread Jones Beene
--- Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Cool video ;-) Do you happen to know -- did the earlier videos in the series say, perhaps -- what frequency this is operating at? The key frequency is 3.58 MHz and the 4th harmonic He says the signal generator is putting out 2 v p-p, less than a mA; he

Re: [Vo]:Let there be light

2007-10-11 Thread Jones Beene
BTW - Barium ferrite has a long history in the lore of overunity as being able to ring for extended periods... ... it is used for RF antennas for this reason, and thus far, this device does not appear to have been shielded from RF, but Dr. Stiffler is a careful experimenter and there is little

Re: [Vo]:Let there be light

2007-10-11 Thread OrionWorks
I've heard of cold electricity before, that there has been tantalizing evidence of this phenomenon witnessed over the years from various experimental labs. However, my knowledge of what cold electricity implies is a bit foggy. Can someone give a quick description? Does it imply a kind of reverse

Re: [Vo]:Let there be light

2007-10-11 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: Not much, but this would appear to be OU at first blush, and perhaps robustly so, but more info is needed, and no doubt the key issue is will it scale up? The issue is, is it obeying Kirchoff's laws, and if not, why not? Whether it scales is secondary. He's claiming