[Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread David Jonsson
I thought that laser toner was dangerous chemically since they are collected and disposed separately. i investigated and found that this was not the case http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toner The only health risk associated with it is due to its ability to generate static electricity. Putting it in

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread leaking pen
same as any fine dust, rub it against itself. one of those bagless vacuums would work perfect. i created 3 inch sparks to my legs with one of those just using reglular house dust from the static buildup. On Dec 4, 2007 1:51 AM, David Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that laser toner

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread David Jonsson
Isn't laser toner specifically chosen for having high or well known static characteristics? What is he ability to have static electricity? Has it anything to do about paraelectricity? David On Dec 4, 2007 2:35 PM, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same as any fine dust, rub it against

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread Terry Blanton
http://home.howstuffworks.com/photocopier1.htm On Dec 4, 2007 9:46 AM, David Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't laser toner specifically chosen for having high or well known static characteristics? What is he ability to have static electricity? Has it anything to do about paraelectricity?

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quasi-Stable Negative Muons or Heavy Positronium-Electronium?

2007-12-04 Thread Frederick Sparber
Instead of laboring over cathode treatment in random replication results for gas discharge or electrolysis CF reactions, why not use Muonic Altered Water: MAW, that can be obtained by bombarding an electrical discharge in Steam in front of a Muon Source, like the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread Harry Veeder
There is concern about toner dust. It is extremely fine and can lodge deep in the lungs. Harry On 4/12/2007 3:51 AM, David Jonsson wrote: I thought that laser toner was dangerous chemically since they are collected and disposed separately. i investigated and found that this was not the case

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread leaking pen
yes. the laser on the paper causes static, the toner than sticks to that static, so that toner only sticks to areas where the laser has excited. the heater element then mlets the toner to the page. the large amount of static generated is one of the reasons a laser printer running overtime

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread David Jonsson
A friend of mine said the same thing but I wonder if the real hazard might be electrical. Do you know how these health investigations were performed? Dust has been available to humans for millennia without problem so I doubt that this is the real hazard. It could be the end hazard (ontologically)

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quasi-Stable Negative Muons or Heavy Positronium-Electronium?

2007-12-04 Thread thomas malloy
Frederick Sparber wrote: Isn't it strange that Ed Storms' paper reports no gammas either, yet the radiation implies particle energies in the MeV range? Note the effect of oxygen and hydrocarbons in the Storms experiment where one would expect the quasi-stable entity to be found. (Argon in the

RE: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy -

2007-12-04 Thread Rick Monteverde
Per the Nick Palmer experiments, I wonder if toner carts get lighter when you shake them up? - R.

[Vo]:Progress in autonomous automobiles

2007-12-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: In the Future, Smart People Will Let Cars Take Control http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/science/04tier.html Quote from end of article: And even if humans stubbornly cling to the steering wheel, they could still end up sharing the road with smart cars. He has that wrong. Once smart

Re: [Vo]:Re: Quasi-Stable Negative Muons or Heavy Positronium-Electronium?

2007-12-04 Thread Edmund Storms
The cold fusion process does not produce gamma for several reasons. Immediate release of gamma does not occur because such a reaction is not effective in conserving the momentum of the reaction. Instead, if a reaction is to occur at all, two charged particle must be emitted. Of course, some of

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread leaking pen
its not the toners that are collected, its the toner containers. thats becuase they have valuable parts, like the drum, inside them, and it costs about a buck to refill it with toner as opposed to manufacturing a new one. its a blend of plastic resins. not something i want in my lungs. On

Re: [Vo]:Progress in autonomous automobiles

2007-12-04 Thread Harry Veeder
On 4/12/2007 3:02 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: See: In the Future, Smart People Will Let Cars Take Control http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/science/04tier.html Quote from end of article: And even if humans stubbornly cling to the steering wheel, they could still end up sharing the road

[Vo]:electron power systems

2007-12-04 Thread thomas malloy
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[VO]: Skunk Works needed for new technology

2007-12-04 Thread R.C.Macaulay
BlankHowdy Vorts, The advances in technology are stacking up worldwide in the universities and research oriented firms. This technology is also migrating toward startup capital groups, all looking for the next golden goose.Something is missing . What? A series of Skunk Worksprojects.. The

Re: [Vo]:Laser toner controversy

2007-12-04 Thread thomas malloy
David Jonsson wrote: Isn't laser toner specifically chosen for having high or well known static characteristics? What is he ability to have static electricity? Has it anything to do about paraelectricity? David On Dec 4, 2007 2:35 PM, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]