Robin van Spaandonk wrote:-
What would be the point of having the guests pay a fortune to hear it, if
they
released the info publicly anyway?
The Forum wasn't specifically about this technology announcement - that
would have been just the icing on the cake of the much larger itinerary.
On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
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From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:34 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
On Dec 11, 2007, at 12:00 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
Waste power
According to this:
http://www.dresser-rand.com/steam/calc/main.asp
they can design steam turbine electric generators that have a condensed output.
Terry
On Dec 12, 2007 12:03 PM, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
-Original
Horace
Do you know what temperature is available post turbine, prior to
cooling? That means prior to the condenser, which is part of the
cooling process, true?
Most often, at least in modern plants, this heat is already being
utilized by a recuperator and is therefore unavailable.
Jones
As I recall, triple expansion marine steam engines produced condensed
liquid output. They had to, because the water was recycled. They have
any amount of cooling water on ships, but not much space for heat
exchanges or radiators.
Actually, I personally don't recall -- they were before my
On Dec 12, 2007, at 9:03 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:
According to this:
http://www.dresser-rand.com/steam/calc/main.asp
they can design steam turbine electric generators that have a
condensed output.
Yes, but the idea is to replace the condenser with a device which
uses sterling
On Dec 12, 2007, at 8:58 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
Horace
Do you know what temperature is available post turbine, prior to
cooling? That means prior to the condenser, which is part of the
cooling process, true?
Most often, at least in modern plants, this heat is already being
utilized
As I recall from thermodynamics courses, you can increase the efficiency of
turbomachinery using intercooling ( cooling the fluid between each
compressor stage ( for gas turbines )), and reheat ( adding heat between
each stage in the expansion array ). This brings the cycle closer to a
Carnot
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 12:03 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
On Dec 11, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Jeff Fink wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[EMAIL
Indeed, this issue is what has led to the water shortage in Atlanta.
Water extracted from the Chattahoochee River must be returned with no
more than a 3 degree temperature rise. Those power plants which were
designed with no cooling towers rely upon the water volume to maintain
a constant power
Terry Blanton wrote:
It is a shame that such plants were allowed to be constructed such
that they substituted a capital investment at the expense of the
quality of life upstream.
You mean downstream. Right?
- Jed
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From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:51 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Mostly Wasted
As I recall from thermodynamics courses, you can increase the efficiency of
turbomachinery using intercooling (
Ah -- the coming age of the molecular full Monty and ingraining of
illogic into modern society... This goes far beyond quirky humor.
James D. Watson, the discoverer of of DNA and winner of the Nobel prize,
is one of several notable, but now disgraced, scientists who have fallen
from favor
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