RE: [Vo]:Infinite Energey article using hydrino to eliminate nuclear waste

2009-10-02 Thread Frank Roarty
Nice! Sometimes I can't see the obvious, You are suggesting a formula to make spent uranium into a skeletal catalyst? Already a great idea or did you something even better in mind? Fran -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com [mailto:mix...@bigpond.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009

[Vo]:megalith levitation

2009-10-02 Thread Frank Roarty
This thread may seem unrelated to energy but in the same way reactionless drives are contemplated with respect to Casimir cavities these legends may have a kernel of truth. There is no moving linear differential motion of gas atoms like the reactionless drive theories but there are trapped ambient

RE: [Vo]:Spontaneous Human Combustion (SHC)

2009-10-02 Thread Jack O Suileabhain
Krebbs cycle: H2O2 hydrogen-peroxide is present within the metabolic intracellular energyproducing/respiration 'Krebbs Cycle' constantly. Likely as not a hydrolytic spin-off relative to this ubiquitous cellular function creates H2 O2 intracellularly in sufficient amounts. And in the present

Re: [Vo]:Patterson and Letts experiment

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
I hope readers of Vo don't mind if I have this public conversation with Jed. At 11:21 PM 10/1/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Rothwell, J., CETI's 1 kilowatt cold fusion device denonstrated. Infinite Energy, 1996. 1(56): p. 18. That wasn't his work, it was CETI's work.

[Vo]:Re: How can we overlook Spontaneous Chicken Combusion (SCC)?

2009-10-02 Thread Horace Heffner
I wrote: On top of the possibility of a K40-D2O-gamma chain reaction, there is the possibility of an acoustic resonance induced cavitation augmentation of that reaction. Cavitation, especially, multi-bubble cavitation seeded by gamma tracks, could involve various elements in proton

[Vo]:LENR-CANR papers with hyperlinks only

2009-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Actually none of this is necessary. If it is posted on his own website, then all you need on LENR-CANR.org is a URL pointing to it iso to your own web site. It wouldn't matter in the slightest to the rest of the world where the actual document resides. Robin has a

Re: [Vo]:Swartz is running a extortion racket

2009-10-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Robin and Abd: Actually none of this is necessary. If it is posted on his own website, then all you need on LENR-CANR.org is a URL pointing to it iso to your own web site. It wouldn't matter in the slightest to the rest of the world where the actual document resides. Robin has a point.

Re: [Vo]:megolith levitation

2009-10-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Frank Roarty wrote: Has Vortex previously considered cavitation of ambient gases in limestone and other calcium based megaliths? Numerous cultures have common legends of levitating great stones and I would be interested if they share rare earth metal ingredients like calcium. What? Calcium

Re: [Vo]:megolith levitation

2009-10-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Ok - so I am over the line but I wouldn't call it antigravity - Not quite what you had in mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94KzmB2bI7s Maybe a little closer: http://www.youtube.com/v/T_whh8O_EMo The

FW: [Vo]:megolith levitation

2009-10-02 Thread Roarty, Francis X
I meant to say alkaline earth metal not rare earth. -Original Message- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 12:55 PM To: froarty...@comcast.net Cc: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:megolith levitation Frank Roarty wrote: Has Vortex

Re: [Vo]:Patterson and Letts experiment

2009-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: As far as I know, Swartz has never actually attempted to turn a flow calorimeter cell sideways to see if the performance changes. Cravens and I have actually tested this hypothesis by experiment. We tried turning cells sideways. It makes no measurable difference. I forgot to

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR papers with hyperlinks only

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:14 AM 10/2/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Actually none of this is necessary. If it is posted on his own website, then all you need on LENR-CANR.org is a URL pointing to it iso to your own web site. It wouldn't matter in the slightest to the rest of the world

[Vo]:An extreme skeptic

2009-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
If you have not dealt with a skeptic lately, here is a reminder of what they are like: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=1940 Scroll down to the bottom and you will see that this person absolutely rejects any paper not published in a U.S. peer-reviewed journal. He will not even glance

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR papers with hyperlinks only

2009-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: The usefulness of lenr-canr.org would increase somewhat if the bibliography included useful links. I have some suggestions about how to implement this . . . Links constantly change. It is a nightmare to keep up with them. Even the publishers' web sites change

Re: [Vo]:An extreme skeptic

2009-10-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
If you have not dealt with a skeptic lately, here is a reminder of what they are like: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=1940 Scroll down to the bottom and you will see that this person absolutely rejects any paper not published in a U.S. peer-reviewed journal. He will not even glance

Re: [Vo]:An extreme skeptic

2009-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Unfortunately for me, this fellow has now actually found a weakness in a paper, and also locked me out of the discussion. He says the tritium findings at AMOCO were weak, because the count only doubled. That sounds like a significant increase to me, but he is right that the paper lacks

Re: [Vo]:megalith levitation

2009-10-02 Thread Mauro Lacy
Hi Frank Time does not exist at the physical level. So, you have no right in physics to talk about time dimensions. You can do it, of course, and even model it mathematically, but your theory will make no physical sense. This was discussed to a certain extent in the past here on vortex. Search

Re: [Vo]:Re: How can we overlook Spontaneous Chicken Combusion (SCC)?

2009-10-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 2 Oct 2009 07:13:39 -0800: Hi, [snip] I wrote: On top of the possibility of a K40-D2O-gamma chain reaction, there is the possibility of an acoustic resonance induced cavitation augmentation of that reaction. Cavitation, especially, multi-bubble

RE: [Vo]:megalith levitation

2009-10-02 Thread Frank
Mauro, I reviewed some of Zitter and ZPE -If I implied that time had spatial dimension then yes I was wrong. That would imply that something could move in the temporal direction and would no longer occupy the same spatial position which is untrue. IMHO temporal displacement would only

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-10-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:03:51 -0400: Hi, [snip] At 06:30 PM 9/30/2009, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Note that in at least one of Dr. Oriani's papers he reports ionizing radiation emitted from the vapor above a CF cell. I don't think that there is any

Re: [Vo]:megalith levitation

2009-10-02 Thread Mauro Lacy
It will be much better (and clear) to talk about (radial) changes of velocity (accelerations). There's no need also to talk about Lorentz contraction, because that arises between reference frames, and is a consequence(if I understand it correctly), of our suppositions regarding the nature of

[Vo]:Fleischmann

2009-10-02 Thread Steven Krivit
Dardik's Team Blocks ReporterÂ’s Attempt to Meet With Fleischmann by Steven B. Krivit TISBURY, U.K. -- A pre-arranged meeting between this reporter and Professor Martin Fleischmann, co-discoverer of cold fusion, failed to occur yesterday, allegedly as a result of Fleischmann's failing health.

Re: [Vo]:Swartz is running a extortion racket

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:22 AM 10/2/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: If you would agree, perhaps some of us could edit sections of your bibliography HTML to add links; links to original publishers might be useful in any case, whether or not you host the actual paper, and send these sections to you

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-10-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:53:22 -0400: Hi, [snip] Bias is too strong a word. It is more a case of neat-freak programmer (me) who likes to keep things in neat categories. I meant what I said: people come to LENR-CANR looking for one thing, and I don't want them to

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-10-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 2, 2009, at 4:55 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: It's because CF started with lattice based reactions, and all the work since has also been lattice based (AFAIK)- in fact I doubt that anyone other than me has even considered that it might not need to be lattice based. Not true.

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR papers with hyperlinks only

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:19 PM 10/2/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: The usefulness of lenr-canr.org would increase somewhat if the bibliography included useful links. I have some suggestions about how to implement this . . . Links constantly change. It is a nightmare to keep up with them.

RE: [Vo]:Swartz is running a extortion racket

2009-10-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
HI Abd, You are not the first to suggest that my two cents may be worth even less. First of all, I just want to be clear on the fact that I have been impressed by the amount of tireless work you have doing over in the Wiki thicket trying to improve the flow of accurate information. No doubt,

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-10-02 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:21:08 -0800: Hi, Sorry Horace, no harm intended. [snip] On Oct 2, 2009, at 4:55 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: It's because CF started with lattice based reactions, and all the work since has also been lattice based (AFAIK)- in

RE: [Vo]:Fleischmann

2009-10-02 Thread Jones Beene
Steve * According to Quackwatch http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/Dardik/index.html , the revocation proceeding was initiated by Ellen Burstein MacFarlane, a former TV investigative reporter. This is not a defense of Dardik. But Quackwatch is a little bit like letting the fox

Re: [Vo]:Fleischmann

2009-10-02 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Steven Krivit wrote: *Dardik's Team Blocks Reporter’s Attempt to Meet With Fleischmann *by Steven B. Krivit [ rest snipped ] This sounds like rather dreadful news regarding Fleischman. A related question: Is there any evidence from folks not associated with Dardik that the superwave

Re: [Vo]:An extreme skeptic

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:32 PM 10/2/2009, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: [quoting Jed Rothwell] If you have not dealt with a skeptic lately, here is a reminder of what they are like: http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=1940 I'm trying to figure out why the original author mentioned cold fusion.

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:18 PM 10/2/2009, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:03:51 -0400: It might not be a metal lattice; the whole biological transmutation approach, we might suspect, would represent protein-catalyzed fusion, basically a protein, I

Re: [Vo]:An extreme skeptic

2009-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Sure. So? Are we running a Find-The-Skeptic game? Look, we already know that there are hosts of these pseudo-skeptics. I do this for practice. It is good to match wits with them a few times a year. It is good to keep in practice and keep the arguments sharp and up to

Re: [Vo]:Fleischmann

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:37 PM 10/2/2009, you wrote: Dardik's Team Blocks Reporter's Attempt to Meet With Fleischmann by Steven B. Krivit Sad and worrisome, to be sure, but there is little alternative but to trust Fleischmann's wife, who clearly supported the isolation. I hope Fleischmann is well enough to

Re: [Vo]:Fleischmann

2009-10-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Steve, you were unable to see Fleischmann, which is certainly unfortunate. However, how was his wife? Did she seem stable, or would you suspect that she was under duress or undue influence, based on your observation of her? She's fine, for goodness sake. I have been

RE: [Vo]:Swartz is running a extortion racket

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:37 PM 10/2/2009, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: First of all, I just want to be clear on the fact that I have been impressed by the amount of tireless work you have doing over in the Wiki thicket trying to improve the flow of accurate information. No doubt, it's a thankless

Re: [Vo]:An extreme skeptic

2009-10-02 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 11:35 PM 10/2/2009, you wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: Sure. So? Are we running a Find-The-Skeptic game? Look, we already know that there are hosts of these pseudo-skeptics. I do this for practice. It is good to match wits with them a few times a year. It is good to keep in practice

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-10-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 2, 2009, at 5:40 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:21:08 -0800: Hi, Sorry Horace, no harm intended. No harm experienced. No emotional content to my response was intended. Sorry, my writing style is a bit dry and terse, so

Re: [Vo]:The source of the disagreement over cold fusion

2009-10-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 2, 2009, at 7:11 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: At 08:18 PM 10/2/2009, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Abd ul-Rahman Lomax's message of Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:03:51 -0400: It might not be a metal lattice; the whole biological transmutation approach, we might suspect, would