At 04:19 PM 10/2/2009, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
The usefulness of lenr-canr.org would increase somewhat if the
bibliography included useful links. I have some suggestions about
how to implement this . . .
Links constantly change. It is a nightmare to keep up with them.
Even the publishers' web sites change their URLs frequently.
Frankly, I see no purpose to doing this. Google and other search
tools do this job better than a group of humans could.
That's fine. All it would take is single page or a couple of pages,
and they can be hosted anywhere. I could set it up on a wiki, I do
have a MediaWiki installation for beyondpolitics.org, and, as
founder, I have some prerogratives....
Anyone looking for papers by Swartz will find them easily enough. If
you start at LENR-CANR.org, you will find his papers listed in our
bibliography. From that, you need only type the title into Google
and you will find the paper at his web site as quickly as you would
at LENR-CANR.org.
Most people searching for papers at LENR-CANR use Google anyway.
Sure, but I can tell you, sometimes it's very hard to find papers.
*Usually* it is easy. It can happen, for example, that links at a
site are defective and you only find the link through javascript or
some image click, lots of webmasters don't have a clue about how to
make everything googleable, or, more accurately, findable by the googlebots.
This isn't a big deal, Jed. Lenr-canr.org doesn't have to have these
links. Don't worry about it. If there is something you should know
about, as to what I do, I'll tell you.
The idea that you could effectively censor out a significant chunk of
this field is preposterous, and if you tried, and it was something
important, you'd be shooting yourself in the foot. I don't expect you
to do that.... If Swartz wants his papers hosted, they will be hosted
somewhere, and your requirements for that would be simple to meet. I
don't know how much he's been published outside of the journal hosted
on NET, but he sure had a pile of papers there.
You don't host everything, and for good reason; your policy, as I
understand it, requires, for everything, and with very few exceptions
(such as the DoE report from 1989), explicit author permission and
cooperation, with an author representing that he or she has the right
to grant permission.
Because of my work at Wikipedia, and some moderately knowledgeable
editors who were looking for every excuse they could find to keep out
links to lenr-canr.org, I got to examine the horse's teeth fairly
closely. Nice teeth, not perfect, but quite good enough to do the
job. Reminds me. I intended to fix the lenr-canr.org Wikipedia
blacklisting problem; I'm temporarily blocked (3 months) on
en.wikipedia, and prohibited from anything related to cold fusion
there for a year, but that's not where the blacklist is hosted; had
it been so, probably I'd have done it already, months ago, because I
managed to obtain an Arbitration Committee ruling that the original
blacklistings were improper. But the blacklist was taken global, on
meta, and I'm not blocked or restricted there, nor do I expect to be
blocked there. It's a loose end I should tie up, I did the groundwork for it.
And by doing such an excellent job for so many years, building your
site and its reputation, you laid the groundwork to make it possible.
