A bit of realistic sci-fi..
January 6, 2028- my grandson who was educated in the spirit
of new energy, cold fusion is wonderful - has succeeded to
work out the perfectly reproducible energy generating method.
In the frame of a Pd - D2O system.
He is a respected citizen and as it is almost
No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say my cell makes excess
heat but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter.
Michel
2010/3/25 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
I should have added --
Nothing like what I have described has happened so far because no one in the
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you help him? Thanks!
Sure. Make it 0.1 mm thick and double the surface area.
T
Mike McKubre will be interviewed on NPR's Science Friday with Ira Flatow.
See:
http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/201003261
I think this will be 20 minutes into the broadcast.
- Jed
Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, Pd
overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you calculate the surface
temperature of the metal at a heat release of 100 Watts per square
centimenter?
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Peter-in-the-grave :) Since CF is a surface effect, how about
plating just a few microns of Pd onto some cheaper metal?
2010/3/26 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com:
Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, Pd
overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you
Thank you for calling CF a surface effect, perhaps we have to add that it is
a local effect,
only separate point like active sites generate the heat.
Unfortunately micron thin layers evaoprate immediately- can you imagine how
much is 100W.sq.cm? And can you tell me a single* real example of heat
Michel Jullian wrote:
No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say my cell makes excess
heat but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter.
So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly
their airplane?
Actually, for most experiments, this demand
2010/3/26 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Michel Jullian wrote:
No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say my cell makes excess
heat but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter.
So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly their
airplane?
A
Why would a micron thin layer evaporate if it's plated on a heat
conducting metal ?? 100W/cm2 is not that much really, it's roughly
what the tip of my soldering iron dissipates happily, even though it's
in air rather than in water.
An example of a thin Pd layer that works? I coudn't even give you
From: Peter Gluck
* And can you tell me a single real example of heat excess obtained with
such layers in the Pd/D2O system?
No . but . the Arata-Zhang system uses nanometer sized spheres of Ni-Pd
alloy, embedded in zirconia. It is stable over extended periods in a heated
deuterium gas.
Michel Jullian wrote:
So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly their
airplane?
A better analogy is that I would not believe them unless I saw them
flying it with my own eyes.
If that is what you want, you should be satisfied with Rob Duncan
going out to see
Imagine a 2kWh heater with a surface of 20 sq.cm. Quite intense...
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Michel Jullian michelj...@gmail.comwrote:
Why would a micron thin layer evaporate if it's plated on a heat
conducting metal ?? 100W/cm2 is not that much really, it's roughly
what the tip of my
http://beforeitsnews.com/news/26739/Krivit_says_cold_fusion_is_not_fusion_but_LENR.html
As with a few of the citations, this one does get that Krivit is
still promoting LENR.
I find it fascinating that the only skeptical questions at the press
conference were from Krivit; I was amazed at how
At 01:57 PM 3/25/2010, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
Phenanthrene works for Mizuno, and there are several possible
reasons for why it might work - given the hindsight to know that
it does work - and also several reasons for why it might work *far*
better with D2 than H2.
I do not
He's gonna need more Pd. In 2008, the world consumption of all types
of power averaged 1.504 x 10^13 W.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption
At 2.4 x 10^-3 g/W, he would need 3.61 x 10^10 g of Pd (plus about 2%
growth per year) or about 36,000 metric tonnes. And
Kirvit is an investigative journalist,rather than just reporting the facts.
Harry
- Original Message
From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, March 26, 2010 11:58:07 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Another pick-up of Krivit's screed
At 06:00 AM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote:
He concludes:
the CF system can contribute but cannot conquer the market
of energy.
This is indeed my seat-of-the-pants conclusion as to the palladium
approach, unless the reaction rate can be greatly increased. At
current prices I did a detailed
You are perfectly right. The problem is that this not so friendly,
moderately rich, Planet has much less palladium, we will be forced to import
some thousands tonnes from other places.
By the way, if you consult the news, you'll see that there are great
problems in the electronic industry because
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
Are there any published works showing nuclear phenomena such as
excess heat, correlated with deuterium percentage? I'm starting with
99.9% D2O (atom percent D). What would be the difference I should
expect with 98% D2O, which is substantially cheaper? I've seen
First of all- thank you! I also think that somewhere we have to get rid of
palladium and replace it with something cheaper and more abundent,
And is a provocative and/or nasty assertion that now we still do not
understnd the science?
Should we repeat the 2005 survey?
It seems that the Ni based
The show starts any minute now. It says you can listen on-line:
http://www.sciencefriday.com/about/listen/http://www.sciencefriday.com/about/listen/
- Jed
At 11:27 AM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote:
Yes, nanotechnology surely will have a great role. And electrolysis
is -in this case a generator of technological nightmares, we have to
get rid of it.
Definitely messy. I wouldn't rule it out, though. But gas phase seems
more likely. I'm not working
Someone named James Riordon, who has a rather weak grasp of the
notion of academic freedom, wants people to attack the APS for
allowing a discussion of cold fusion. He wrote:
Cold fusion has become the iconic example of pathological science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_science
I thought Mike did pretty well! He did not say anything people here
have not heard dozens of times before. I imagine Mike must have said
those things thousands of times before! Poor guy. But he managed to
keep it fresh and interesting.
Flatow is a good interviewer. Kudos to both.
- Jed
Flock of birds put hole in ship??? The conspiracy and UFO folks
will have some fun with this one!
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62P30E20100326
http://tinyurl.com/ycdtjgy
A defense ministry official later said that the unidentified object
the vessel had fired at on Friday night
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
It's like a lot of things in this field, there are many, many loose
ends, caused by people varying the hell out of what they were doing,
hoping to get lucky.
That is exactly what they were doing. And what's worse -- far worse!
-- is that they were not doing the
Yes, birds.
We're talking angry birds. Terrorist birds who will stop at nothing,
like the ones who brought down the U.S. Airways flight, into the Hudson.
See A. Hitchcock, The Birds (1963).
- Jed
Dear Abd,
I am starting the weekend rush to write my great editorial for the issue no
396 of my wekly newsletter Info Kappa ( I am working for an American
Romanian ISP UPC Romania)
The subject is primitive and I will use much of the book Caveman Logic
But other things too.
By the way, I like very
I am sure this is a subject no one is interested in but me, BUT, I wrote:
This is actually closer to Wright brothers test than most people
realize. For a non-expert observer, the early flights were difficult
to distinguish from an uncontrolled powered hop.
In 2003 on national television news
2010/3/26 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com:
Michel Jullian wrote:
So, you would not believe the Wright brothers unless they let you fly
their
airplane?
A better analogy is that I would not believe them unless I saw them
flying it with my own eyes.
If that is what you want, you
Horace Heffner wrote:
BTW, I recall reading a year or more ago that a lab blew up in South
Korea taking out a number of blocks. . . . I never heard if the cause of
the Korean explosion was identified though.
S! It was the birds. Don't you get it?!? Birds!
Let's hope Glenn Beck doesn't
Michel Jullian wrote:
Duncan didn't bring in his own measurement system so he didn't see
the excess heat for himself.
Oh give me a break.
That's ridiculous. The technique was replicated as SRI and ENEA. CBS
sent one of the world top experts in calorimetry to confirm it. What
more do you
I am just stating a fact, not judging the validity of anybody's
claims.There would be no airplanes today if the Wright brothers hadn't
allowed skeptics to judge their claims with their own instruments
(=own eyes in their case). Luckily, they were not that stupid.
Michel
2010/3/26 Jed Rothwell
When someone places their calorimeter in your excess heat be sure to take
precautions. ;-)
Harry
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At 07:39 AM 3/26/2010, Michel Jullian wrote:
No wonder, the cold fusion experimenters say my cell makes excess
heat but they won't let skeptics see it with their own calorimeter.
I intend to fix that, you know. Except the first cells won't be
calorimeter-ready, they might not generate anough
Frank Znidarsic
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