[Vo]:The long running time of the Rossi process is a clue.

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
The long running time of the Rossi process is a clue. The very long running times of the Rossi process being reported to run up to two years, lends weight to the opinion that elements in the catalyst are not consumed in the Rossi reaction. The nanopowder that makes up the various components of t

[Vo]:Mass balance in the Rossi ash.

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
Mass balance in the Rossi ash. IMHO, Rossi can’t tell how much nickel or hydrogen is used, consumed, or transmuted in his reactor because of the large amount of Iron (and other undocumented elements) that are produced by erosion from the walls of the reaction vessel. How can a pico-level mass

Re: [Vo]:Is it nuclear, or is it Memorex?

2011-04-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Alchemy was more than just a collection of blind rituals. It was based on a natural philosophy which may contain some precious insights that were buried with the rise of the mechanical philosophy. Harry --- Original Message > From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
The scam status of the Rossi reactor has nothing to do with natural abundance in Lenr reactions. It has been shown that all Lenr reactions produce waste conformant to natural abundance. Like all Lenr reactions, the Rossi reactor show natural abundance in it’s ash product. This should lend credence

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Wait a minute. You want to change half the Standard Model of Physics in order to suggest that Rossi's device has some tiny chance of being theoretically possible in the oddball way that he thinks it is - when we're not even sure that it's not a total scam? ... now that is true devotion to a cause

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher wrote: > > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/docs/2010Levi-Report-RossiDemo.pdf > Power from the 220V line was monitor and logged by a “WATTUP?” Pro Es > power meter. > Plus a clamp-on ammeter. So you think that a watt meter can be wrong by a factor of 200 (16 kw)? Or

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Has anyone described the necessary chain of stellar events that would produce the present isotopic abundance of copper and is there proof that all those events actually happened? My point is perhaps some elements/isotopes are formed naturally by a LENR process rather than by a succession  of st

Re: [Vo]:[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of "Ni-H Cold-Fusion\" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
Mössbauer spectroscopy is a spectroscopictechnique based on the recoil-free, resonant absorption and emission of gamma rays in solids. This resonant emission and absorption was fi

RE: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I picked up a conventional rotating eddy current rotor utility power meter at a junk yard, and it's really quite accurate ( Public service laws require a certain precision since you're being charged for the power). ( The number Kh stamped on the label is watt hours/revolution ). I recently bought

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Harry Veeder
> >From: Jed Rothwell >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 8:32:34 PM >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device > >This is a ridiculous voice input error: > > >The resistance heaters are high-powered trigger the reaction and then hours >reduced to maintain it. > > >I guess it wa

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
Hey, let's agree that most experimenters measure power incorrectly. T

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > I win because THEY used the wrong equipment, despite specific warnings. No, you lose because you did not read what I said: <><><><> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Power meters can NOT be relied on. Bull$hit

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 15, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Mark Iverson wrote: Could the protons be fusing into Helium (perhaps providing some of the heat), and then the Helium burning? -Mark Yes, however this then provides no explanation for the large amount of copper. 60Ni28 + 2 p* --> 58Ni28 + 4He2 + 7.909 Me

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:59 PM 4/15/2011, you wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > I'll raise you TWO bullshits : You'll lose. Give me a good digital oscilloscope with current and voltage probes that outputs CSV data to an Excel spreadsheet and I'll give you power measurements within

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > I'll raise you TWO bullshits : You'll lose. Give me a good digital oscilloscope with current and voltage probes that outputs CSV data to an Excel spreadsheet and I'll give you power measurements within the sampling error per one Mr. Nyqu

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: > he said he never insufflated nytrogen. > That is not the same as saying he never injected nitrogen. > Could this be an example Rossi's sense of humour? Under the influence of N2O? Love that stuff! T

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:50 PM 4/15/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 05:28 PM 4/15/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Power meters can NOT be relied on. Bull$hit!  The right instruments used correctly provide accurate results. I'll raise you TWO bull$hits : Make tha

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > (Why are there so many ways to measure pressure?) Because all people are under it? :-) T

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 05:28 PM 4/15/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Power meters can NOT be relied on. Bull$hit!  The right instruments used correctly provide accurate results. I'll raise you TWO bullshits : http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/docs/2010L

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Harry Veeder
he said he never insufflated nytrogen. That is not the same as saying he never injected nitrogen. Could this be an example Rossi's sense of humour? Harry   - Original Message > From: Jones Beene > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 7:36:03 PM > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Notes

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > > What is the pressure, by the way? > > I think he said 25 bar which would be about 360 psi. > Ah. 24 atm. I thought it was low, like 4 atm. I guess it would make quite a bang if they exhausted it into the room and it ignited. (Why are there so many ways to measure press

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Our sun is a second (or third) generation star. The previous supernova which created all of the elements and isotope balances that are found on earth, are the products of a certain starting mass, age, temperature, and other variables that existed billions of years ago. These influenced that prior N

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > What is the pressure, by the way? I think he said 25 bar which would be about 360 psi. T

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is a ridiculous voice input error: The resistance heaters are high-powered trigger the reaction and then hours reduced to maintain it. I guess it was supposed to be: The resistance heaters are used at high power to trigger the reaction, then power is reduced to maintain the reaction. In the

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > Power meters can NOT be relied on. Bull$hit! The right instruments used correctly provide accurate results. T

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: Piantelii said that he used N to stop a run away meltdown before he found > that D2 would stop the reaction on HIS system. Wouldn't it be ironic if they end up using D2 to scram the reactors? - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Deflated P-e-P

2011-04-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Jones: ... > By that, I also mean since H works well on its own - no way do you waste time > with D, since it can never make commercial sense, even if it improves the > reaction rate by a large amount. Ergo, when someone mentions D at all in the > context of a Ni-H demonstration - then it

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > Do you release pressurized and very hot hydrogen into a room where many > people may be gathered? Answer: No. it would be instantly explosive. > There is only a tiny bit. Pressure is low. What is the pressure, by the way? To scram a real, commercial device I would recommen

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Harry Veeder
Mattia Rizzi wrote:  >A nuclear reaction should produce non-natural distributions. > but how did the natural distributions arise in the first place? Harry

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
Piantelii said that he used N to stop a run away meltdown before he found that D2 would stop the reaction on HIS system. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Terry Blanton wrote: > >> >> > Okay. I think I should just delete the statement about N: >> >> >> Why? That ain't no H

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > If the system is in a runaway condition, I'm sure there is enough H2 > in the reactor to take it to meltdown.  Look at the configuration, the > H2 is injected into the reactor at 300 psi and likely shut off. Simply depressurizing the reacto

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mark Iverson wrote: > > You forgot to mention Rossi's quote about seeing 100keV to 300keV > particles... I think that's a reasonably important piece of data! > Okay. Not sure where to put it. We may need more & better categories. I guess that would come under DEVICE CHARACTERISTICS. OPERATIONS

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:22 PM 4/15/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Michele Comitini < michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote:   Since the claim is a 200 ratio for out/in  the following simple components could be used besides the E-cat,  H2 gas tank and  control box: 1) a (sealed) room without power outlet. 2) a number

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: > > > Okay. I think I should just delete the statement about N: > > > Why? That ain't no H2 tank in the Jan demo image. > Who knows what it's doing there. Maybe they use it to purge the cell or clean out the tubes. The thing is, he says that was a misunderstanding and he n

RE: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Shutting down H2 supply cannot work, since the gas in the reactor is highly pressurized and consumed slowly, so the reaction would not be abated on H2 shut-down - in fact not for an extended period - possibly hours or days. Do you release pressurized and very hot hydrogen into a room where many p

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2011-04-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
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Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:51 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > By shutting down hydrogen supply, as Focardi said in his latest interview. > After hydrogen pressure decreases by a certain amount the reactor supposedly > stops working by itself. If the system is in a runaway condition, I'm sure there i

RE: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Mark Iverson
Jed: You forgot to mention Rossi's quote about seeing 100keV to 300keV particles... I think that's a reasonably important piece of data! I've posted it twice; not going to do it again just look for postings in the last 3 to 7 days with 300 keV at the end of the subject line. -Mark

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-16 01:36, Jones Beene wrote: Yes. Do not delete this ! It is important. Add this one to the growing 'contradictions' list, because I am sure that at one time he said he can operate the device for a period of time with no electrical input. How can it then be possible to shut down auto

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread francis
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:11:56 Axil wrote [snip] It is as if a large amount of hydrogen atoms form into a cold plasma go into a quantum mechanical blender and turned into a coherent quark soup. In an instant, when the quark soup fissions, this LENR process produces atoms whose isotopic character

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
Between then and now, Rossi may have come up with a way to make his catalyst(s) sub-critical, that is, always requiring some external heat to be input as a control on the output heat production. Provarication may not be an issue here. On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Yes. Do

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > Surely he is not so careless (miserly) as to fill this tank with > H2 to cut cost ? Not likely. I think his H2 (large) tank is shown in Fig. 10 here: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/RossiECat/docs/2011Essen-Kullander3April.pdf T

RE: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Yes. Do not delete this ! It is important. Add this one to the growing 'contradictions' list, because I am sure that at one time he said he can operate the device for a period of time with no electrical input. How can it then be possible to shut down automatically with no current unless you flush

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Rossi wrote: > >> >> 2-I never insufflated Nytrogen. That info was wrong. If there is a black >> out, the E-Cat automatically stops, for lack of current: it >> is intrinsically safe > > Okay. I think I should just delete the statement about N:

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-16 00:37, Jed Rothwell wrote: This was either a misunderstanding or he has retracted it. It is not important. The purpose of the list is to present an up-to-date description of what Rossi now thinks, not to hold him to previous statements or find out how often he has changed his mind.

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Michele Comitini
> It is physically impossible for the wire used in this device to conduct more > than ~3 kW. The wire would melt. Years ago, plug in electric heaters drew ~3 > kW and the wires became very hot. Those were thick wires. Heaters nowadays > are limited to 1.5 kW, or 12.5 amps. Jed I agree with you ...

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi wrote: > 2-I never insufflated Nytrogen. That info was wrong. If there is a black > out, the E-Cat automatically stops, for lack of current: it > is intrinsically safe > Okay. I think I should just delete the statement about N: Inject N to displace the H. This was either a misunderstandi

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: > The proper way to organize this type of data is through the use of a > relational database. That is how systems engineers do it. > Great idea! Are you going to do that for us? Thanks! Add to the list: DEVICE CHARACTERISTICS The control box contains 5 simple PLCs, and weigh

[Vo]:The mechanism behind the fail safe nature of the Rossi process.

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
The mechanism behind the fail safe nature of the Rossi process. I believe that the magnetic property of Fe2O3 in a key part of the Rossi process and is the way that the Rossi process achieves failsafe operation. . When the temperature of the catalyst get to about 577C (the Néel

Re: [Vo]:What Rossi Says list

2011-04-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:29:59 -0400: Hi, [snip] >mix...@bigpond.com wrote: >> 15 kW for 18 hours at 5 MeV / reaction equates to 120 mg of Nickel. IOW the >> amount that would actually react is 120 mg. > >I gather you are suggesting that much of the Ni will eventua

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote: The effect can be quenched with the following methods: [...] Inject N to displace the H. Recently he added: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=64 * * * 2. I’ve read that you once had to stop the machine by insufflating nitrogen and that t

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michele Comitini wrote: > Since the claim is a 200 ratio for out/in the following simple > components could be used besides the E-cat, H2 gas tank and control > box: > > 1) a (sealed) room without power outlet. > 2) a number of car batteries that can provide the necessary but > limited amount

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote: The 1 MW (thermal) device will be made of many smaller ones ganged together. It was originally planned to be made up of ~130 10 kW units, where 30 were held in standby to replace or augment older ones as the power decreased. They now plan to use ~300 unit

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
The proper way to organize this type of data is through the use of a relational database. That is how systems engineers do it. The primary key would be the time of origination. The secondary keys could be calorimetry, nano-particle, ash product, isotopic ratio… MS access would be the simplest.

Re: [Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-15 23:46, Jed Rothwell wrote: NOTES ON ROSSI DEVICE [...] Good job! I'll try collecting other questions/answers from various posts in Rossi's blog. I'll post them in this thread unsorted. By the way, I think the question/answer date is important and should not be taken out of con

[Vo]:Notes on Rossi device

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
NOTES ON ROSSI DEVICE [This was previously titled "What Rossi Says list") This list is not comprehensive. These are items I thought are significant. Sources are sometimes shown in parentheses after the item. SL = Shirakawa List, Focardi = Focardi radio interview, April 5, 2011 Some items are

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Michele Comitini
Two major claims about Rossi's must be verified (cause and effect): 1. It is nuclear (the cause) 2. It gives far more thermal energy than consumed electrical energy so there is a commercial viability (the effect) An experiment should focus only on calorimetry since the claimed effect would be lo

RE: [Vo]:Deflated P-e-P

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Steven - the simulation does not go there. It is too complicated for me to say if the simulation is accurate or not. I like it, and have not found anything obviously wrong with it yet. Everyone interprets the shadows on Plato's cave in their own way If one doesn't mind admitting that he is,

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
As per my last post, helium is produced in large amounts because it is one of the magic number elements. But the fusion of helium is not required for the formation of the other elements in the Rossi ash. IMHO, at the current time, the catalytic interaction at the surface interfaces of a heteroge

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Mark Iverson
Perhaps the 'secret' catalyst is the Nickel and its catalyzing the fusion of H into He... -Mark _ From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:11 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat) Thank you for your i

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
Thank you for your insight. “If there is anything nuclear, and the metal isotope distribution is natural – then it is almost a guarantee that it must involve only hydrogen, no metal.” This is probable true. Would it not be ironic that the fusion/fission of just hydrogen produces nickel and

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Mattia Rizzi
>When the Reaction first begins, the isotopic ratios could be random No. Isotopic ratio from natural background is constant, with low deviation. >in the same way that a few samples among a population will produce widely >varied statistics. Check how many atoms (and isotopes) are contained insid

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Mark Iverson
Could the protons be fusing into Helium (perhaps providing some of the heat), and then the Helium burning? -Mark _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:45 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

Re: [Vo]:Deflated P-e-P

2011-04-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
>From Jones: ... > 3) However, it is occasionally possible to shoot protons at each other with > the right speed and quark positions so that they latch on to each other - > held in place by the Strong Force. Without one of the protons converting into a neutron? I thought that was impossible. R

RE: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
From: Mattia Rizzi > the isotopic ratios begin to resolve around a natural distribution This is non-sense. A nuclear reaction should produce non-natural distributions. Yes. It is clear from the Swedish analysis that this is CANNOT be a nuclear of reaction of nickel at all. N

Re: [Vo]:Quality control in cold fusion.

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
Rossi has stated his catalyst is not homogeneous, so it must be heterogeneous where the nuclear process happens between the contact surface of the iron oxide nano-particle and the nickel oxide nano-particle. The crystal structure of the nickel oxide is too dense and perfect for hydrogen to penet

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Gluck
What I wanted to say with the missing word "technological"? The truth is that Pd-D LENR has contributed to science but has not succeeded to become an energy source. If it ever will, that's an open question but in the spirit of fairness you cannot tell that Pd- D is nothing. The second non-ethical a

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Axil Axil
Could another variable be the amount of time that the ash spends in the Rossi reactor? When the Reaction first begins, the isotopic ratios could be random in the same way that a few samples among a population will produce widely varied statistics. But when the reactor runs for a very long time,

[Vo]:An Optical Battery

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
http://ns.umich.edu/htdocs/releases/story.php?id=8368 April 13, 2011 Solar power without solar cells: A hidden magnetic effect of light could make it possible ANN ARBOR, Mich.—A dramatic and surprising magnetic effect of light discovered by University of Michigan researchers could lead to solar

Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-15 21:07, Jed Rothwell wrote: I am surprised no one else has picked up on this. This part of the Focardi interview is likely to put the President of Greece and the Min. of Energy in the hot seat: [...] Does it? Personally when I heard that in the original audio I assumed what Focard

Re: [Vo]:Tarallo Water Diversion Fake

2011-04-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 06:17 PM 4/14/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I'll say it, Rossi is probably real. I would say "almost certainly" real. But I and everyone else can, sometimes, be fooled. The only way to totally avoid being fooled would be to believe nobody, and

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am surprised no one else has picked up on this. This part of the Focardi interview is likely to put the President of Greece and the Min. of Energy in the hot seat: it was easy to convince the Greek President, the minister... Consequently Greece has signed a contract with Rossi and can build thes

RE: [Vo]:Deflated P-e-P

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Horace, > Proton pairs don't bind by the strong force, so this eliminates the prospect for the follow-on weak reaction, at least at readily observable levels. Well - They can bind for an indeterminate period, according to Nyman. http://dipole.se/ Go down to "Strong Force between Two Prot

Re: [Vo]:Deflated P-e-P

2011-04-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:38 AM, Jones Beene wrote: There could be a reason why Horace's deflated fusion model doesn't work with only hydrogen- The model works fine. The model explains heavy element fusion as well. It is p-p or p-e-p that does not occur with observable, but not because t

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I guess Focardi must have meant there has been no significant technological progress. After all, he did mention Fleischmann's explosion. (He has it going the wrong direction.) - Jed

[Vo]:Op-Ed news -- not Main Stream Media, but it's a start

2011-04-15 Thread Alan J Fletcher
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-Fusion-Revolution-by-Christopher-Calder-110409-21.html Fairly good summary. > Christopher Calder is an advocate for world food supply security with no financial interest in any energy related business. ... Unlike the notoriously flawed "cold fusion" experi

RE: [Vo]:Deflated P-e-P

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
In addition to the fusion of deflated hydrogen, there is an alternative in the possible fusion of IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen). The difference between the two, as I understand it is that IRH is trapped in 2D (two dimensions) on a dielectric surface via 'mirror charge' while according to Horace,

[Vo]:Deflated P-e-P

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
There could be a reason why Horace's deflated fusion model doesn't work with only hydrogen- IOW a version of the proton fusion reaction - leading to deuterium; BUT if it can fit, then it provides many clear advantages to a Rossi-type of device, and cannot be ruled-out simply because the inventor th

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2011-04-15 Thread southronfolk

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Terry Blanton
I don't suppose Essen took a look at the geometry of the sample? It would be telling to examine the composition with an electron microscope. T

Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-15 16:04, Jed Rothwell wrote: But Peter Gluck wrote: ". . . one word is missing: 'technological.'" What do you mean by "missing word"? Did Focardi say this and it is missing from the translation? Or did he fail to say this and he should have? He didn't say that in the interview and

RE: [Vo]:Another perspective on feasible Ni-H reactions

2011-04-15 Thread Jones Beene
Horace An immediate response is this: if that if two deflated protons can get together in such a way as in the second reaction - then why would they not simply emerge as deuterium most of the time? i.e. a deflated version of P-e-P ? You tend to subscribe to Ockham more than me, so why not go wi

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: What you say means NO reliable measurements can be made. Experts tell me that would depend on who is making them. Take please a look at the Web for *Ni isotope measurements*. Inductively coupled mass spectrometry is very performant . . . Is that the method Focardi used?

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Gluck
What you say means NO reliable measurements can be made. Take please a look at the Web for *Ni isotope measurements*. Inductively coupled mass spectrometry is very performant, even the small variations in natural abundance of the Ni isotopes can be measured and evaluated. If you wish I can found yo

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Horace Heffner
On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:10 AM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: On january 2010 "A new energy source" they say that the isotpic ratio of Cu is nearly natural background. Source: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSanewenergy.pdf On March 2010 they correct it and say that isotopic ration of Cu is diff

Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: I assume this part is accurately translated: "So there were two parallel lines of research: on one side, the deuterium and palladium people, who never got anything . . ."[...] Yes, it is. Several people on discussion boards I read on the matter have criticized that exc

Re: [Vo]:Re Bonsai ecats

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Gluck
I agree. It was only the impossibility to make generators < 2.5 KW what I could not accept. peter On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Rossi wrote: > > . . . our R&D will arrive also to try to make good results with very small >> amounts of reactants. It is not easy, but I thin

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: The simplest explanation of this contradiction is that "they" do not want to > tell what the isotopic ratio of Cu is No, the simplest explanation is that they are having difficulty doing mass spectroscopy, and they keep getting conflicting results. Many people do, even experi

Re: [Vo]:Re Bonsai ecats

2011-04-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Rossi wrote: . . . our R&D will arrive also to try to make good results with very small > amounts of reactants. It is not easy, but I think is not impossible. > That's good! This does not contradict his previous statement, it clarifies it. Many of Rossi's assertions seem like misdirection or lie

[Vo]:Another perspective on feasible Ni-H reations

2011-04-15 Thread Horace Heffner
I originally proposed the following reactions as justifying the Rossi results: 58Ni28 + p* --> 59Cu29 * --> 59Ni28 + neutrino 58Ni28 + 2 p* --> 60Zn30 * --> 60Ni28 + 2 neutrinos 60Ni28 + p* --> 61Cu29 * --> 61Ni28 + neutrino 61Ni28 + p* --> 62Cu29 * --> 62Ni28 + neutrino 62Ni28 + p* -->

Re: [Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Gluck
The simplest explanation of this contradiction is that "they" do not want to tell what the isotopic ratio of Cu is- and will not tell till the scientific report of the Bologna Univ. is published. Unnnatural, natural? The first is a mistery at the 2nd power, the other a mystery at the 3rd power. On

RE: [Vo]:The Best Way to Avoid Infringement

2011-04-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
>From Robin: ... > In reply to Wm. Scott Smith's message of Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:13:42 -0700: > Hi, > [snip] > >If they immediately have virtually free energy, but no new goods and services > have been already developed, the economy will feel the extra money; this will > cause inflation. Yes, I b

[Vo]:About isotopic ratio on spent fuel (E-Cat)

2011-04-15 Thread Mattia Rizzi
On january 2010 "A new energy source" they say that the isotpic ratio of Cu is nearly natural background. Source: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSanewenergy.pdf On March 2010 they correct it and say that isotopic ration of Cu is different from background. http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/

[Vo]:Re Bonsai ecats

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Gluck
I have asked: Dear Ing. Rossi, It was some dispute between your supporters regarding the minimum size of the E-cat generator- 2.5 kW? Do you mean that smaller sizes are impossible to manufacture for some technical reason or only not practical or notefficient? Again metaphoricallly, bonsai E-kitte

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Gluck
a word is missing: "technological" I will comment at Daniele's blog. Otherwise he cannot claim the paternity of Cold Fusion, or of Ni-H LENR. Peter On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:10 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: > On 2011-04-15 03:01, Jed Rothwell wrote: > >> I assume this part is accurately translate

Re: [Vo]:Sergio Focardi, the father of “Ni-H Cold-Fusion" [English translation]

2011-04-15 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
On 2011-04-15 03:01, Jed Rothwell wrote: I assume this part is accurately translated: "So there were two parallel lines of research: on one side, the deuterium and palladium people, who never got anything . . ."[...] Yes, it is. Several people on discussion boards I read on the matter have cr