Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread David Roberson
Pursuing transmutations due to the types of processes you list seems like an excellent idea. The high temperature effects could demonstrate that things which occur within liquids and solids are quite different than those within plasmas and gasses. We seem to observe these issues frequently in

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread David Roberson
Jeff, you have pointed out some interesting papers that allowed me to reconsider the transmutation concept. Thus far I have placed most of these experiments in the same category as ghosts and other difficult spirits to capture. Like the other phenomena, it is impossible to accept unless I witn

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:47 AM, John Newman wrote: > On the other hand, an ab initio fresh start on welding might commence with > experimentation using hyper-pure raw materials of species having a single > stable isotope, such as aluminium > (http://www.webelements.com/aluminium/isotopes.html f

RE: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread John Newman
Moving from the vac tube end of the spectrum to larger sizes, there is scope for closer examination of heavy duty industrial processes. Welding R&D literature could be a rich hunting ground for baffled asides citing annoying post-welding impurities. On the other hand, an ab initio fresh start o

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
I'm old, so I'm old school. I'm not a physicist, just an experienced observer with a basic science education. After a few months of intensive reading, I'm squarely in the "transmutation don't get no respect" camp. I particularly like this one: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/Castellanonucleartra

Re: [Vo]:Don't waste your time trying to edit the E-Cat Article

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:27 PM 9/15/2012, Kelley Trezise wrote: So, here is my vote on the matter: Keep no merge This article has been taken over by a very small cadre of people opposed to even the mention of the Energy Catalyzer, Cold Fusion, LENR, LANR, etc. It is a stain on the reputation of WP that a small

Re: [Vo]:Don't waste your time trying to edit the E-Cat Article

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:27 PM 9/15/2012, Kelley Trezise wrote: So, here is my vote on the matter: Keep no merge This article has been taken over by a very small cadre of people opposed to even the mention of the Energy Catalyzer, Cold Fusion, LENR, LANR, etc. It is a stain on the reputation of WP that a small

Re: [Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 09:25 PM 9/15/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: They didn't necessarily create it, "keep it stable." Perhaps it *stayed* stable. There is, practically speaking, a huge difference. You are wrong. The paper shows 3 out o

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread David Roberson
To me 250 electron volts of energy in the form of electron projectiles is incredibly small. The neutron generators that can be had all operate with something like 100 keV which is fairly close to 1000 times larger, and they use deuterons as the projectiles. Why would we think that electrons

[Vo]:Don't waste your time trying to edit the E-Cat Article

2012-09-15 Thread Kelley Trezise
So, here is my vote on the matter: Keep no merge This article has been taken over by a very small cadre of people opposed to even the mention of the Energy Catalyzer, Cold Fusion, LENR, LANR, etc. It is a stain on the reputation of WP that a small number of very abusive people can drive off the

Re: [Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: They didn't necessarily create it, "keep it stable." Perhaps it *stayed* > stable. There is, practically speaking, a huge difference. > You are wrong. The paper shows 3 out of 7 runs worked, but they did it several other times not shown in the paper. Before they they p

Re: [Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-15 Thread James Bowery
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: > Suppose an experiment is like tossing a coin (or a series of coins). Run a > lot of experiments, you might see a long series of some outcome. That > doesn't mean that you can control this. > "Ordinarily, new scientific discoveries are

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:41 PM 9/15/2012, David Roberson wrote: I would be surprised if no one has done extensive research into these transmutations. By now, they must have some idea as to how this happens or they lack curiosity. If this has been swept under the table over the years it makes one wonder how many

Re: [Vo]:An interesting video from PESN - new Defkalion pics?

2012-09-15 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: "Akira Shirakawa" > Have you read their feasibility study here? It's clearer than what's > presented in their website: http://lenrnews.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/LENR_CARS_NChauvin_ILENRS-12x.pdf If you scroll down to the Defkalion section there are two photos of the "test rig" which

RE: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:26 PM 9/15/2012, Jones Beene wrote: Terry, The caveat of this is that it is mundane: all electrical discharges produce transmutation over time. That is the nature of QM tunneling. You can take any old triode from an old TV set - and apply the same type of XRF testing to the plates, and fi

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread David Roberson
I would be surprised if no one has done extensive research into these transmutations. By now, they must have some idea as to how this happens or they lack curiosity. If this has been swept under the table over the years it makes one wonder how many other important discoveries are hidden. Dav

Re: [Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 10:12 AM 9/15/2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: If high energy density can be reliably created and sustained for substantial periods, it is then intrinsically scalable, and it could be that. It has been sustained for a

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 02:14 PM 9/15/2012, Eric Walker wrote: On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: The nuclear reaction reflected in this ash description seems to be a mix of complex fusion and fission nuclear reactions. Such a mix of reactions might

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, It seems to me that Wikipedia will meets it's own dambuster. The wait is for someone to drop the "bouncing balls" in the lake of the wikidam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_Wallis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._617_Squadron_RAF On 14-9-2012 22:16, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is why I

Re: [Vo]:Re: New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, It seems to me that Wikipedia will meets it's own damburster. The wait is for someone to drop the "bouncing balls" in the lake of the wikidam. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_Wallis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._617_Squadron_RAF On 14-9-2012 22:16, Jed Rothwell wrote: This is why

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 05:03 AM 9/15/2012, Sverre Haslund wrote: Hmm.. my edit about SGS certificate has held for 10 minutes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer#Commercial_plans Sverre Haslund Eek. Page history shows revert warring

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 12:40 AM 9/15/2012, Axil Axil wrote: We don't know whether NiH results are actually LENR, because we don't know what the ash is and therefore we don't know what the reaction is. Abd ul-Rahman Lomax and Jed Rothwell be advised that Defkalion has provided us with a comprehensive list of ash

Re: [Vo]:New Lattice Energy on Hi-Temp Superconductivity LENR

2012-09-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Jeff Berkowitz wrote: In either case, we might have a peculiar state in which bulk material (e.g. > Celani's wire) is intermittently ("patchily") superconductive along the > path of current flow. This might be observed as a sort of average, i.e. a > decrease in r

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
No, it doesn't address. There is just a list of elements that supposed transmuted, none of them with no error bars. Besides, what I want is to correlate the quantity of ash in time vs. output energy in time. This is the correlation. 2012/9/15 Axil Axil > > This reference: “The developing techno

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread ChemE Stewart
T Thanks, I need all the support can get! I have been more research on my theory, I think if the reaction is along the lines of my theory we should be looking for Extremely Low Frequency(ELF) Radiation or ULF(ultra) in the 0-5 Hz range generated from the anomalous heat effect. Which BTW is also

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Axil Axil
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Farchives%2Ffic%2FJ%2FJNE1N3.PDF&ei=5NhUUJcDpuvSAYaRgMAD&usg=AFQjCNHLzO1yj1a8km7ia4txRjAaseKw_Q&sig2=GqC2L98oUVx6HKY5TpS9OQCoulomb This reference: “The developi

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Jones Beene wrote: You can take any old triode from an old TV set - and apply the same type of > XRF testing to the plates, and find boron plus a Cornucopia of transmuted > elements. Dozens! And in every single tube! Roy Hammack and others have > done > this. It

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > The nuclear reaction reflected in this ash description seems to be a mix > of complex fusion and fission nuclear reactions. Such a mix of reactions > might be expected when the coulomb barrier is lowered in varying degrees > that range from sli

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel Rocha
No, they didn't. To be characterized as an ash proper, that is, as the main product of the reaction, it has to correlate with the output energy. They did't do that. 2012/9/15 Axil Axil > Abd ul-Rahman Lomax and Jed Rothwell be advised that Defkalion has > provided us with a comprehensive list of

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Axil Axil
Significant power production from a LENR reactor might simply come down to the number of nuclear reactions that happen per unit of time. If Defkalion can generate 10^^23 reactions per second, even if each of these separate reactions only produce a relatively small power contributions, their total

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Terry Blanton
I think the stellar analogy holds the answer, Jones. But, it is not the normal star like Sol that we should study. It is white dwarfs and neutron stars. Negative resistance in magnetized plasmas has been known to exist for decades. So we know there is an energy source. Degenerate matter is for

Re: [Vo]:Bussard Ramjet

2012-09-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > > Because "plain text" does not show > superscripts in vortex postings - when you see "2He," which should have the > 2 as a superscript When it is important to indicate a superscript, I suggest a caret: ^2He That is well known. Less often, an underline is used to indicate

RE: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Jones Beene
Terry, The caveat of this is that it is mundane: all electrical discharges produce transmutation over time. That is the nature of QM tunneling. You can take any old triode from an old TV set - and apply the same type of XRF testing to the plates, and find boron plus a Cornucopia of transmuted ele

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Terry Blanton
The first quoted sentence should be attributed to Abd. On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Terry Blanton wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Axil Axil wrote: >> We don't know whether NiH results are actually LENR, because we don't know >> what the ash is and therefore we don't know what the

Re: [Vo]:New Wired UK article

2012-09-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 1:40 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > We don't know whether NiH results are actually LENR, because we don't know > what the ash is and therefore we don't know what the reaction is. > > Abd ul-Rahman Lomax and Jed Rothwell be advised that Defkalion has provided > us with a comprehensi

RE: [Vo]:Bussard Ramjet

2012-09-15 Thread Jones Beene
Fran, Let me clarify a couple of things. Because "plain text" does not show superscripts in vortex postings - when you see "2He," which should have the 2 as a superscript - that refers to the transient helium-2 nucleus, composed of two protons and no neutrons. It has slight negative binding energy

Re: [Vo]:OT nuclear physicist as dutch prime minister?

2012-09-15 Thread Teslaalset
UFO's are? On Thursday, September 13, 2012, Rob Dingemans wrote: > Hi, > > On 13-9-2012 12:23, Teslaalset wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Andre Blum > > > wrote: > >> On 09/12/2012 01:21 PM, Andre Blum wrote: >> > > Please, please refrain from discussing dutch politics when it h

[Vo]:Stable, long lasting ~100 W cold fusion reactions have been demonstrated

2012-09-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: I do not see that implication. To me, "massive amounts of energy" refers to >> energy normalized to the mass of starting materials. For example, 50 MJ >> from a few grams of cathode material plus water. >> > > You may look at it that way . . . No other interpretation

Re: [Vo]:An interesting video from PESN - LENR related

2012-09-15 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil said [snip] This effect is an important component of the gas phase Ni/H cold fusion reaction as witnessed by the appearance of superconductivity when heat is produced during some recent LENR experiments.[/snip] Axil, are you referring to the gas phase CIHT Mills is claiming [power from wate

Re: [Vo]:no evidence yet of safety certificate.

2012-09-15 Thread Sverre Haslund
Hmm.. my edit about SGS certificate has held for 10 minutes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_Catalyzer#Commercial_plans Sverre Haslund 2012/9/15 Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > At 05:33 PM 9/14/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: > >> At 04:18 PM 9/14/2012, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: >> >>> Well, very funny

Re: [Vo]:An interesting video from PESN - LENR related

2012-09-15 Thread Alain Sepeda
Interesting, and it is possible that this phenomenon is different from PdD effect. or same... Link with superconduction is not surprising, since collective effect is needed to allow the 3 miracles. However what PdD results say on NiH is that we should apply usual research rules an prejudice to ana

Re: [Vo]:An interesting video from PESN - LENR related

2012-09-15 Thread Axil Axil
*Celani is conducting experiments openly, but there are still undisclosed details* http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429203/room-temperature-superconductivity-found-in/ Here on vortex, we have discussed how room temperature superconductivity is found in water soaked graphite grains. There wi