RE: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:CANR explains the original Papp engine

2013-03-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Jones , I am ok with negating the sealed heat engine but since we aren't talking about combustion but rather what you referred to once as a cold engine I remain open to a possible sealed cold engine based on changes in isotropy where reversible chemical reactions runaway when compression

[Vo]:ICCF18 website expanded

2013-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
They will open for registration on March 15. See: http://iccf18.research.missouri.edu/index.php - Jed

[Vo]:Professor Moddel gets patent for gases flowing through casimir cavities

2013-03-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
http://ecee.colorado.edu/~moddel/QEL/Papers/DmitriyevaModdel12.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Professor Moddel gets patent for gases flowing through casimir cavities

2013-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
It says Dmitriyeva Haisch, Cantwell and McConnell also worked on this. The usual suspects! - Jed

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Professor Moddel gets patent for gases flowing through casimir cavities

2013-03-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Surprising they didn't test with hydrogen but this approach based on Lamb pinch and noble gases is at a much lower scale for both geometry and therefore energy but it may be a better way to ferret out the initial energy source of LENR... if the ZPE - Casimir hypothesis is correct his approach

[Vo]: Atomic Collapse observed

2013-03-08 Thread Bob Higgins
Predicted Atomic Collapse phenomenon observed: http://www.rdmag.com/news/2013/03/long-predicted-atomic-collapse-state-observed-graphene

[Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread pagnucco
Why Are the Big Financial Institutions Selling Oil BIG? http://oilprice.com/Finance/investing-and-trading-reports/Why-Are-the-Big-Financial-Institutions-Selling-Oil-BIG.html

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Joe Hughes
I believe it has nothing to do with LENR and everything to do with attempting to control inflation because of all of the European and US money printing (QE). You see the same large companies doing the same to commodities - As he mentioned it is being done by JP Morgan and crew but most likely

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Peter Gluck
80% of what the press gives us are false correlations. This is a good example, actually the impact of the E-cat is zero and its minstream credibility inexistent. The author probably has a strong sense of humor Peter On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Joe Hughes jhughe...@comcast.net wrote: I

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: 80% of what the press gives us are false correlations. This is a good example, actually the impact of the E-cat is zero and its minstream credibility inexistent. I agree. (You mean nonexistent.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 12:05 PM 3/8/2013, you wrote: I believe it has nothing to do with LENR and everything to do with attempting to control inflation because of all of the European and US money printing (QE). You see the same large companies doing the same to commodities - As he mentioned it is being done by JP

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Why Are the Big Financial Institutions Selling Oil BIG? I posted earlier that the US will not support LENR. We are on the verge of becoming an oil exporter.

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: I posted earlier that the US will not support LENR. We are on the verge of becoming an oil exporter. What part of the U.S.? Exxon Mobil? The DoE? General Electric? Ordinary people, who will save thousands of dollars a year with LENR? I expect

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I expect opinions will be divided. I agree. They already are! :-)

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Peter Gluck
actually negative. this can change, in principle. It is not figuring in such dictionaries: *Glossary of bullshit business terms* http://culturaloffering.com/2013/03/08/glossary--.aspx but, for example:we agree, in principle actually means no.not,but we will not tell you this just now The E-cat is

RE: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Jones Beene
LENR is nowhere close to influencing oil prices, and how can you control inflation by shorting Big Oil ? The sell-off could be technology related, however. But it is old and not green. Curiously - it is Nazi technology, so at least they gave us something of value. You can call it Messerschmitt

RE: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
This article from Oilprice.com is a really good bullshit. It will take ages before LENR will have an impact on oil prices, and therefore on energy prices. Big banks, and big oil companies will have (or already have) a strong fight against LENR. But surely it will not be like it's explained in the

RE: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Chris Zell
They may be pricing in economic decline in Europe and Japan, together with China slowing down. In addition, there are reports of an oil find in Australia that is gonzo freakin' huge. Like tens of trillions of dollars in reserves. Europe is taking note of the shale boom, too. Better than coal,

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread James Bowery
You're one minor and one major industrial revolution behind in this analysis: Minor: The emergence of the east Asian giants has already fundamentally changed the political economics of technology deployment. They are much less encumbered than is the West and much more motivated to apply their

RE: [Vo]:CANR explains the original Papp engine

2013-03-08 Thread Jones Beene
From: Roarty, Francis X I am ok with negating the sealed heat engine but since we aren't talking about combustion but rather what you referred to once as a cold engine I remain open to a possible sealed cold engine based on changes in isotropy where reversible chemical reactions runaway

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2013-03-08 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Ex nihilo: Dynamical Casimir effect in metamaterial converts vacuum fluctuations into real photons March 8, 2013 by Stuart Mason Dambrot Copyright © PNAS, doi:10.1073/pnas.1212705110 (Phys.org) —In the strange world of quantum mechanics, the vacuum state (sometimes referred to as the quantum

[Vo]:Ex nihilo: Dynamical Casimir effect in metamaterial converts vacuum fluctuations into real photons

2013-03-08 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Don't know why the subject didn't show up. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Ex nihilo: Dynamical Casimir effect in metamaterial converts vacuum fluctuations into real photons March 8, 2013 by Stuart Mason Dambrot Copyright © PNAS,

RE: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
I don't understand what you exactly mean here? I'm aware of the new robotization revolution (Baxter robot, and the same arm multi purposes robots ...), but anyway, you can't change the all economy in a few winks. Moreover, in the beginning, there will have a huge fight against LENR by lobbyists

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 8 Mar 2013 13:12:54 -0800: Hi, [snip] http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/14/news/economy/california-oil-boom/index.html Note that it follows the San Andreas Fault. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread James Bowery
You didn't click through the link and watch the presentation by Anderson. Do so. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.bewrote: I don't understand what you exactly mean here? I'm aware of the new robotization revolution (Baxter robot, and the same arm multi

RE: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
I did! Thank you for it. Nothing special I'm aware of. Do you belief than LENR will change the energy market in less than 3 years? _ From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com] Sent: samedi 9 mars 2013 01:01 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread James Bowery
Ah, I only read as far as your phrase will take ages where you called bullshit. 3 to 4 years out (not exactly ages ), you're right: the futures contracts are unlikely to be significantly altered by the announcement of fully functional Hot-CAT from Rossi or similar announcement. On the other hand

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: On the other hand the market cap of oil company shares take into account the value of resources in the ground and those quite possibly could be affected significantly within 3 to 4 years of such an announcement. A close friend of mine is an economist.

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread James Bowery
It would be interesting to look at the surface of the inflation-adjusted price of triode vacuum tubes vs volume shipped through time from 1947. The same surface, substituting total market cap of vacuum tube companies for triod vacuum tube price would be an interesting comparison. On Fri, Mar 8,

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread Harry Veeder
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: In other words, it is not just the commodity value in 4 years that matters. In this situation the oil companies would be like companies manufacturing vacuum tubes in 1952, after transistors were announced. Even though

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-08 Thread James Bowery
Erratum: surface - parametric curve On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: It would be interesting to look at the surface of the inflation-adjusted price of triode vacuum tubes vs volume shipped through time from 1947. The same surface, substituting total