On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:17 AM, Ruby r...@hush.com wrote:
I call it whatever name needs be, for whatever audience I have.
Spoken like a true politician. You go, girl!
Google translated:
From about 20 days are repeated trials and demonstrations in Milan only
for customers and for about a couple of months in Canada forever just to
customers.
I see two problems with this marketing scheme.
First, you need a magic crystal ball to know who your customers are.
They are not fools. They are not doing that for customers.
2013/7/16 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
First, you need a magic crystal ball to know who your customers are. When
you are selling things people often come to look, but it turns out they do
not want the product or they are not
Mark, Eric
In the absence of an expert, let me agree with Mark that tunneling through a
nucleus occurs regularly on the nanoscale and lower geometry levels, and
furthermore could be instrumental in understanding LENR.
However, tunneling does not occur with a single proton. In fact, constant
Ultra-dense rydberg matter of deuterium a million times more dense
than frozen deuterium
http://www.science.gu.se/english/News/News_detail?contentId=879280
http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/05/university-of-gothenberg-making.html
And here is a paper that try explain experimental result, this
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
They are not fools. They are not doing that for customers.
Then who are they doing it for? If a business does not do things for
customers, it is not a business.
- Jed
Those are not Hydrinos, even though that is a dense state of matter.
2013/7/16 David ledin mathematic.analy...@gmail.com
Ultra-dense rydberg matter of deuterium a million times more dense
than frozen deuterium
http://www.science.gu.se/english/News/News_detail?contentId=879280
Public awareness?
2013/7/16 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
They are not fools. They are not doing that for customers.
Then who are they doing it for? If a business does not do things for
customers, it is not a business.
- Jed
--
Daniel
Thank you Mark for this article. It is good to keep Cold Fusion in the
minds of the financial community. If Cold Fusion pans out, it could be the
single largest business on the planet 10 years after the introduction of
the first practical product. It could be $5T-10T/year - so what if the
Hello David,
Yes, we have been discussing Winterberg, Holmlid, Hora, and Miley from as
far back as 2006 on this forum - and specifically in the context of the
connection to dense hydrogen (which is known as pycno). And we did notice
the cross-connections, so I hope your implication is not that
2013/7/16 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
From what they said , it seems they have too many candidates.
They seems like some LENR researchers I've heard about that they have more
friend than can hold their agenda.
It seems businessmen are more open than academics and media.
the behavior of
But politics is important in this business.
2013/7/16 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
Public awareness works for politics. Market awareness works for business.
--
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com
Public awareness works for politics. Market awareness works for business.
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Public awareness?
2013/7/16 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
They are not fools. They are not
You want to know what it takes to overcome political opposition from
bureaucratic insiders to outside competition:
Look this guy
uphttp://web.archive.org/web/20081212071704/http://www.geocities.com/jim_bowery/testimny.htm.
He seems to have some experience dealing with that sort of thing. Clue:
Reference:
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0912/0912.5414.pdf
In section 2 – Vortex model, F, Winterberg offers alternate guess about the
formation of metallic superfluid hydrogen (H) and deuterium (D) as made by
Ashcroft.
I would like to posit and alternative to this guess based on
The difference it is that you wanted to change a policy. They want to raise
awareness about the existance of something.
2013/7/16 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
You want to know what it takes to overcome political opposition from
bureaucratic insiders to outside competition:
Look this guy
I would like to introduce an alternate mental model of the process that you
offer in is post.
Currently, it is universally accepted as physics gospel that quarks are
bound so tightly by the strong force that they can never exist in isolation
or recombine in a low energy environment.
What LENR
The new thermocell could be used to generate electricity from low grade steam
in coal fired power stations at temperatures around 130°C. This would be
implemented by having the steam pass over the outer surface of the hot
electrode to keep it hot while the other electrode is air or water
Hello Jones
I was referring to mainstream scientific community by no one.
On 7/16/13, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Hello David,
Yes, we have been discussing Winterberg, Holmlid, Hora, and Miley from as
far back as 2006 on this forum - and specifically in the context of the
If the point of raising public awareness is political then what is the
point of pursuing politics if not to change policy?
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.comwrote:
The difference it is that you wanted to change a policy. They want to
raise awareness about the
Because you cannot do it without having proved the existance of something,
that is, a high power reactor. So, you do both.
2013/7/16 James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
If the point of raising public awareness is political then what is the
point of pursuing politics if not to change policy?
On
As Alan Fletcher said Sounds even worse than a Rossi event.
Rossi events don't prove the existence of anything significant. They
raise public awareness and appear to have had no impact on *anything*.
Oh, we can *speculate* about *invisible* impact, but the fact remains that
there are no
Energy Update: Speculation on the Cold Fusion
Fronthttp://www.21stcentech.com/energy-update-speculation-cold-fusion-front/
http://www.21stcentech.com/energy-update-speculation-cold-fusion-front/
anyway as usual they miss most of the story...
being so much uninformed when you claim to inform
*But in the sense of dealing with the perverse realities of current
authority structures.*
What is the best way to work within the current authority structures?
It seems to me in this current day and age that the current authority
structures are based on corporate control of governments by
Copied from a facebook group.
Harry
Officially confirmed.
Roberta De Carolis (Tuesday, 16 July 2013 12:28).
The CEO of Defkalion Europe Franco Cappiello wrote to us:
There will be an official announcement of this technology during ICCF 18
(International Conference Cold Fusion 18) at the
Think of civilization as a very primitive multicellular organism that takes
humans and turns them into asexual cells that perform various specialized
functions. When I say very primitive I mean you have to look back _far_
beyond 600 million years ago (the point at which cellular specialization
as well as a member of the Cicap.
CICAP: *ICAP, the Italian Committee for the Investigation of Claims on the
Paranormal,* promotes a scientific and critical enquiry of supposed
paranormal and mysterious phenomena
http://www.cicap.org/en/index.php
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 1:58 PM, H Veeder
blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
as well as a member of the Cicap.
CICAP: *ICAP, the Italian Committee for the Investigation of Claims on
the Paranormal,* promotes a scientific and critical enquiry of supposed
paranormal and mysterious phenomena
Your point is?
Are you
Hi,
On 17-7-2013 2:27, Jed Rothwell wrote:
blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:
as well as a member of the Cicap.
CICAP: *ICAP, the Italian Committee for the Investigation of
Claims on the Paranormal,* promotes a scientific and critical
Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com wrote:
I don't think that's the point that Blaze is trying to make.
It seems to me that an organization that is mainly focused on
investigating paranormal activities is out of it's league in this case.
Ah. Good point.
- Jed
I
CICAP: *ICAP, the Italian Committee for the Investigation of Claims on
the Paranormal,* promotes a scientific and critical enquiry of supposed
paranormal and mysterious phenomena
Your point is?
Are you opposed to investigating mysterious phenomena? Or in favor of it?
Paranormal =
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM, blaze spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote:
It doesn't matter what they discover, the reputation of Defkalion
Perhaps. This may have just been something they were approached about by
the paranormal investigators, and they thought they would try to spin it
They are trying to show that they are not doing magic tricks. Like, hidden
wires, tubes, etc.
2013/7/16 blaze spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com
Paranormal = XFiles / Ghosts / Aliens / etc.
They're sending Mulder and Sculley in to investigate Defkalion?
They should be sending in engineers
On 2013-07-17 02:50, Rob Dingemans wrote:
It looks a bit to me that somebody pulled this organization into the
game to make the claims ridiculous, which in turn could work as a
boomerang and could result in people not taking CICAP serious at all.
In Dutch we would say schoenmaker blijf bij je
On 2013-07-17 03:50, blaze spinnaker wrote:
They should be sending in engineers from companies which specialize in
calorimetry and power measurement.
Cynical skeptics have often complained that a magician or some sort of
fraud expert should have been present during public LENR demos to check
From: Rob Dingemans manonbrid...@aim.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:50:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defkalion webcast officially
It looks a bit to me that somebody pulled this organization into the
game to make the claims ridiculous, which in turn could work as a
boomerang and could result
RE: the PDF referenced at arXiv...
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0912/0912.5414.pdf
The author, Dr. Winterberg, is right here in Reno where I am. I know
several people in the physics dept at the local University, so if someone
has a specific question they'd like to ask, I can get it to
I suppose that now that the scam detection squad is going to be involved the
the skeptics will completely go away. For some reason I suspect that the bar
will be raised as usual.
Dave
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From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
From: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:39:17 PM
I suppose that now that the scam detection squad is going to be
involved the the skeptics will completely go away. For some reason I
suspect that the bar will be raised as usual.
Recall that Kullander was
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:39 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I suppose that now that the scam detection squad is going to be involved
the the skeptics will completely go away. For some reason I suspect that
the bar will be raised as usual.
I agree. Even if this skeptical
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