Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: > Penon wasn't in line to receive the 89 mil, nor any significant fraction > of it, so why would he care? > Perhaps Rossi offered him a share. He could afford to be generous with $89 million. - Jed

Re: [Vo]: Where did the heat go?

Bob Higgins wrote: If the room was filled with water that began at 25C and was heated to 60C > over the course of a year, with good insulation and no heat leakage . . . > There is no such thing as "good insulation with no heat leakage." As the water gets hot, it leaks

RE: [Vo]: Where did the heat go?

Bob Higgins wrote: I saw the picture of the inside of the customer's facility with its big black box. It caused me to consider the possibility that the heat was stored. Imagine an immense store of water … Rossi was fond of storing hot water in his old demos. If you can view this video, go

Re: [Vo]: Where did the heat go?

First of all, if enough heat could be stored, it would be an excellent proof that the heat was actually created. Also, because there was no sign of venting, and there was no huge thermal signature for the building, there was (and is) no clear indication of where that heat (if created) would have

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

My two cents I would suspect Penon knew it was all fraudulent, and in fact was hired by Rossi preciesely to produce fake data to sustain the fraud. But Penon wasn't getting anything out of it except what Rossi was paying him, and seriously didn't give a damn about Rossi beyond his pay.

Re: [Vo]: Where did the heat go?

Why would the heat be stored? In especially such a way? On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Bob Higgins wrote: > I saw the picture of the inside of the customer's facility with its big > black box. It caused me to consider the possibility that the heat was > stored.

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Giovanni Santostasi < > gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What I don't understand is why there are not ongoing criminal >> investigations for Rossi, Fabian and Penon, the fraudulent

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:31 PM, a.ashfield wrote: More idle speculation. Wait until Penon's report surfaces and let's see > what he really said. > Hardly idle speculation! Just pointing out the obvious. It does not appear to be obvious to you. Once the report comes

[Vo]: Where did the heat go?

I saw the picture of the inside of the customer's facility with its big black box. It caused me to consider the possibility that the heat was stored. Imagine an immense store of water as big as the entire black box. If Rossi produced 1 MW of heat continuously, what would the numbers look like?.

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

More idle speculation. Wait until Penon's report surfaces and let's see what he really said. Presumably the flow meter goes on reading the running total and the average flow rate mentioned is simply the total divided by the number of days - less 10% that Rossi persuaded Penon to reduce the

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:59 PM, David Roberson wrote: So, it would not surprise me too greatly to find that Penon became > extremely bored making the same readings day in and out until he placed > data into the log that assumed everything continued as it had for many long >

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

I agree that it would be better to improve the fraud. You have to wonder why he did not at least go to that level of expertise by using fractional data? It would be far more believable to suspect that he used the average instead of making an effort to track the true data if he did not think

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

David Roberson wrote: So, it would not surprise me too greatly to find that Penon became > extremely bored making the same readings day in and out until he placed > data into the log that assumed everything continued as it had for many long > previous periods of time. That

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

Let me mention a real life occurance that I have witnessed. The FCC requires AM and FM transmitters to maintain their RF input powers at a certain level. Many years ago I noticed that the technicians would take a glance at the voltage and current meters every so often to enter that

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

There are 3 logical possibilities: 1) a.ashfield is a troll, he is doing this just for fun, 2) a.shfield is a shrill paid by Rossi 3) a.shfield is a self-deluded believer of Rossi crackpottery at any cost. Possible combinations of 1 to 3 are also possible. On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 2:36 PM,

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

a.ashfield wrote: It is fairly simple why. The only unbiased observer, the paid expert ERV > Penon, says the plant worked. > He also said the flow was exactly 36,000 kg per day, and the reactor produced heat on days when Rossi informed the world it was turned off. How

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

It is fairly simple why. The only unbiased observer, the paid expert ERV Penon, says the plant worked. Rossi took IH to court, where the facts will be made known, because IH failed to pay him what they had agreed on. It wasn't IH taking Rossi to court. You have it backwards. On 8/12/2016

[Vo]:LENR learns about toxicology and venom

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/08/aug-12-2016-lenr-learns-about.html we need anti-venom... peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Another slant on hole superconductivity

Regarding Axil's comment, I consider that SPP,s would be a better bet for creation of high energy electrons and Brem The collapse would also create energetic electrons and Brem... The light speed at the surface of the medium supporting the SPP's would important in the creation of Brem...

RE: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

Define senior citizen. senior citizen synonyms, senior citizen pronunciation, ... curmudgeon - a crusty irascible cantankerous old person full of stubborn ideas. hmmm From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

[Vo]:Global Warming Strikes Again

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-11/expert-says-rising-rapes-sweden-due-global-warming-not-soaring-muslim-immigation Apparently, Sweden is experiencing an epidemic of sexual assault because of global warming. Good to know the elites fully understand this situation.

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

a.ashfield wrote: > You left out most of what I wrote, cherry picking like Murray does. > I will not respond in detail because you apparently think I am a liar. There is nothing I can say in response to that accusation. Any fact I bring to light you will disregard,

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

How somebody can read the following email of Rossi and still not "get it"? He has a conniving mind, zero loyalty and it is evident he is capable of manipulating experiments, "making up discussions" whatever that means, taking advantage of people and situations. Given his already tattered past, it

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > What I don't understand is why there are not ongoing criminal > investigations for Rossi, Fabian and Penon, the fraudulent gang, instead of > only civil law implications. > If there were such investigations, I doubt we would hear about them.

Re: [Vo]:Amended Answer from I.H. in lawsuit

I converted both documents to Microsoft Word format using the program Power PDF. I then did a file compare within Microsoft Word. This flagged a large number of changes. It is tedious looking through them. Here are paragraph numbers that have been changed, as numbered in the amended version. Most

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

Jed, You left out most of what I wrote, cherry picking like Murray does. You claim to know what I WILL think. What you write is not believable. You are wrong about that too. On 8/12/2016 9:56 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: a.ashfield > wrote:

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: What I don't understand is why there are not ongoing criminal > investigations for Rossi, Fabian and Penon, the fraudulent gang, instead of > only civil law implications. > This is something I've been wondering

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

What I don't understand is why there are not ongoing criminal investigations for Rossi, Fabian and Penon, the fraudulent gang, instead of only civil law implications. It is likely that Rossi and company activities were criminal and not just bad business practices. It saddens me to say this about

[Vo]:Amended Answer from I.H. in lawsuit

I.H. has filed an amended Answer to the Rossi lawsuit. It can be found in these locations: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5ZV0oKQafY4bHhOZHlBZFZ4MG8 https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/newvortex/files/Rossi_v_Darden/ (requires registration) This includes a new photo in Exhibit 26. I

[Vo]:The H3+ hydrogen cation and HTSC

Speaking of a potential cross-over area between localized HTSC (high temperature superconductivity) and LENR, consider an important but overlooked ion. The species known as the “trihydrogen cation” or “protonated molecular hydrogen” and denoted here as H3+, is actually the most abundant ion in

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

a.ashfield wrote: > Jed Rossi and Penon stuffed their data tables with identical & impossible > numbers, and they showed excess power on days when Rossi in his blog said > the machine was turned off. > AA How can one tell that without seeing Penon's report? Second hand

Re: [Vo]:angry and sad LENR comment but info too!

Jed, AA ,I have maintained from the beginning it was too early to tell the performance of the plant until more FACTS were available Jed The facts are now available. AA. Oh Yes? Where can I see Penon's report or a piping diagram? AA You were wrong about Vaughn not being emp;poyed by

[Vo]:Another slant on hole superconductivity

One of the leading experts on HTSC is the controversial hands-on theorist Joe Eck. In his latest installment, Eck adds to his emerging theory – called the Periodic Compression Theory… http://www.superconductors.org/AEOHTSC.htm Eck’s theory asserts that metals of disparate weights but identical