Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

A force carrier that is do light should have a very long range, This I do not understand. I can;t help that this protophobic gauge boson is really a coherent quasiparticle of a collection or bundle of photons or the like that has a short lifetime. Why can it explain the muon anomalous magnetic

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Either not obvious to me or you are biased against Rossy and are seeing things. 2016-08-17 2:15 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker : > Perhaps they're not obvious to you. > >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: And you are pretty sassy. The most relevant parts, the physical ones, I > addressed already. > Not sassy -- just pointing out the obvious flaws in your reasoning. Perhaps they're not obvious to you. Eric

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

And you are pretty sassy. The most relevant parts, the physical ones, I addressed already. 2016-08-17 2:09 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker : > The amended Answer is 64 pages, not including exhibits. You haven't > addressed all of it. You haven't addressed a fraction of it. Now

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I did it already. Look for it. > The amended Answer is 64 pages, not including exhibits. You haven't addressed all of it. You haven't addressed a fraction of it. Now you really are arguing for the sake of arguing.

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

I did it already. Look for it. 2016-08-17 2:01 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker : > In order to make the case you want to make, you'll need to address each > and every point in the Answer. :) > >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: I don't think they have a good legal case. Their arguments, as I posted > severak, do not hold well at all at to (at least my) scrutiny. So, they are > like hanging to the tip of their fingers to fall to an abyss. >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

*posted in several occasions 2016-08-17 1:53 GMT-03:00 Daniel Rocha : > I don't think they have a good legal case. Their arguments, as I posted > severak, do not hold well at all at to (at least my) scrutiny. So, they are > like hanging to the tip of their fingers to fall

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

I don't think they have a good legal case. Their arguments, as I posted severak, do not hold well at all at to (at least my) scrutiny. So, they are like hanging to the tip of their fingers to fall to an abyss. They already have a good legal case; why risk it unnecessarily? > >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:46 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Both of them. There is an assumption that Rossi is scaming, but not the > contrary. And your suggestion, it's like "my son would never rob/kill, he > was so good". > No -- my suggestion is not that IH are good

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Both of them. There is an assumption that Rossi is scaming, but not the contrary. And your suggestion, it's like "my son would never rob/kill, he was so good". 2016-08-17 1:43 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker : > >> Is your thought that it is a credible suggestion that IH entered in

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Yes, because there are many politicians that are just like this. > Is your thought that it is a credible suggestion that IH entered in a falsified business card, or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Eric

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Yes, because there are many politicians that are just like this. 2016-08-17 1:39 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker : > Do you disagree? > > >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Entering with a suit against IH would also be bad for Rossi, from the > beginning, with so much holes and faults in their conduct. So, what I am > claiming it is that if Rossi is not in his right mind, why not IH

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

>From what I read of the paper, it's a very short range force; perhaps 12fm but the signal seen was at 6.8 sigma, The paper is located here: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.07411v1.pdf Interesting read. Where this becomes relevant is in the electron screening that metals provide in Pd(D). Maybe

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Entering with a suit against IH would also be bad for Rossi, from the beginning, with so much holes and faults in their conduct. So, what I am claiming it is that if Rossi is not in his right mind, why not IH people? 2016-08-17 0:32 GMT-03:00 Eric Walker : > It would be a

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: The card [entered into evidence in a US federal court by IH] can be nothing > more than a falsification. Is there any testimonies if anyone from JM > offered the card, at least? Or that it was printed by anyone from JM

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

There is doubt about the authenticity of the engineer by Planet IH, so I will push further, there is proof that is a card offered by JM. The card can be nothing more than a falsification. Is there any testimonies if anyone from JM offered the card, at least? Or that it was printed by anyone from

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

I believe these photos were taken by Takahiro Bessho. See: http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/11/12/japanese-photographer-brings-out-the-beauty-of-airports-and-factories-in-gorgeous-night-images/ Here are some that include Japanese text: doseng.org/foto/55450-yaponskie-zavody-34-foto.html The

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

In answer to an offline question about testing or falsifying this 5th force hypothesis without the expense of heavy isotopes of palladium – one option comes to mind just now. Remember the “bubble fusion” experiment of Rusi Taleyarkhan? He was vindicated in his use of the very heavy element

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

Another point to toss into the mix, CB --- the strong force operates at two distinct geometries, which could mean that it is essentially bifurcated and overlapping to begin with, such that one of the two can become the 5th force. On a size-scale of a few femtometers, the strong force binds

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

You people should care. This is more spectacular than cold fusion. There are a lot of odd behavior to be expected at non linear physics. This is not the case.

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

So, there's A Planet IH. 2016-08-16 20:46 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > > I.H. says, and I trust them. >

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 5:28 PM, Bob Cook wrote: > How does your model handle conservation of angular momentum---the poor > neglected parameter in many models focusing on energy conservation? > Angular momentum may be poor and neglected -- but it remains a fundamental

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: How do you know that? [Mr. Bass does not exist] > I do not know it for sure, but that is what I.H. says, and I trust them. They say that in the Answer: "Despite diligent search, Counter-Plaintiffs have not been able to identify or locate “Bass,” for

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

How do you know that? 2016-08-16 18:09 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > In any case, Mr. Bass does not exist >

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

Jones, I really like your idea. I instantly thought the same thing when I read the article about the 5 force. It certainly is better than some published theories I've read on LENR. On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > *From:* Bob Cook > > > > How do

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

With Rossi is never just one item but the entire sequence of lies, misdirections, excuses, bs of any kind. We are already dealing with something most scientists says it should not happen (let's please break one physics law at the time) but when you add all this misbehavior in business, human

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

From: Bob Cook How do you explain the transfer of the excess energy to the metal lattice as heat ? Hagelstein's theory for phonon transfer keeps improving over the years. In his theory, the less energy which needs to be shed in the first few downshifts, the more likely the modality

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

Jones-- How do you explain the transfer of the excess energy to the metal lattice as heat ? The lattice vibrations you talk about (phonons) I believe are associated with orbital spin states of the lattice electrons and hence the associated angular momentum. How does your model handle

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: Yeah, I think it's normal. > Your notions of what is normal are different from mine. If someone gave me a business card with a photo of a factory, I would assume that is his companies factory. If I found out his company consisted of one room in a

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Yeah, I think it's normal. Chemical plants are pretty much generic. It's like using stock photos on ads. 2016-08-16 18:03 GMT-03:00 Jed Rothwell : > >> Do you think it is normal to give someone a business card with a stock >> photo of a chemical plant in another country;

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: Just a coincidence. There is no association between market segments. > Don't you find it a little suspicious that the business card shows a chemical plant in Japan? That plant has nothing to do with JM Chemicals. Do you think it is normal to give

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Just a coincidence. There is no association between market segments. 2016-08-16 15:29 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi : > But purposefully misleading. >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

I wrote: > I don't think so. This is just a random picture. >> > > I think it is a stock photo of a large chemical plant. > Ah, ha! Someone found the image. It is here: http://acidcow.com/pics/16423-plants-in-japan-35-pics.html So . . . Mr. Bass is from Japan. Interesting . . . - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

To summarize a formative hypothesis of the modality of a 5th force boson (labeled "neuglu") as the necessary component of Pd-D fusion, here is a summary . The neuglu boson would be attracted to down quarks and equally repelled by up quarks, so that it will have net binding force for neutrons but

[Vo]:LENR- Mini-interview with Andrea Rossi. comment, appeal

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/08/aug-16-2016-mini-interview-with-andrea.html DEAR ROMANIAN READERS IT IS AN APPEAL TO YOU HERE! peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

But purposefully misleading. Like the name "A derivation of Johnson Matthew platinum sponges". Rossi misspelled it. Sloppy and amateurish, like the card. On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Daniel Rocha wrote: > > I don't think

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Why not? 2016-08-16 15:14 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi : > It happened randomly. >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Daniel Rocha wrote: I don't think so. This is just a random picture. > I think it is a stock photo of a large chemical plant. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Right, and random name too, just a "w" instead of "y" identical to a well known company that deals in platinum products. It happened randomly. On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I don't think so. This is just a random picture. > > 2016-08-16 14:45

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

Also it is obvious that Rossi made an initial mistake in calling "JM Products" a derivative of Johnson Matthew Platinum Sponges. He was trying to give the impression to IH that JM was associated with Johnson Matthey (with a y) and he did a sloppy thing, Rossi being sloppy as usual and he wrote

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

I don't think so. This is just a random picture. 2016-08-16 14:45 GMT-03:00 Giovanni Santostasi : > So comical. > Even the business card is misleading. >

Re: [Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

and this is everything the poor guys have, world wide? peter On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:45 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > So comical. > Even the business card is misleading. It shows a huge chemical plant when > all the operations were done in a small 6000 sqr ft

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

This is not a confirmation. Wait for more independent tests. There might be an error in the set up.

[Vo]:JM Products misleading business card.

So comical. Even the business card is misleading. It shows a huge chemical plant when all the operations were done in a small 6000 sqr ft warehouse in a commercial and not industrial zone. Everything Rossi's related is always misleading, false, fake and full of smoke and mirrors. See IH lawsuit

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

Another possibility. to clarify the possible relevance of neuglu in the LENR system, for those who believe that real 4He is found in the ash is that helium derives from a two-step process. The reaction does not produce gamma radiation since the mass-deficit has actually been used up in the process

Re: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

Jones-- I think Arnold Gulko also discusses the binding force of 2 neutrons in U-238--see the current issue of infinite energy. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:51 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

RE: [Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

Bzzzt.No chance this explains our observed 4He production as our mass resolution was way better than needed for such determination, and of course there is that pesky 3He that shows up as well. Although the shrunken deuterium molecules might be a precursor for some interesting modalities. Great

[Vo]:Neuglu confirmed

Yesterday, it was announced than another group had tentatively confirmed the existence of a so-called fifth (or sixth) force. https://news.uci.edu/research/uci-physicists-confirm-possible-discovery-of-f ifth-force-of-nature/ When we discussed this discovery back in May on Vortex - following the