Re: [Vo]:Biofuel cost decline

2007-08-14 Thread leaking pen
i might also add that cane is a more effective source of sugar for ethanol, and that a lot of the land owned by oil companies, used in part for drilling, refinieries, ect, but large amounts of empty land as well, is in the equator area, the best place to cheaply grow said cane sugar. and ethanol

Re: [VO]: Solar activity vs. seismic

2007-08-10 Thread leaking pen
i would also wonder if large amounts of the various radiations that make it through would cause heating deeper in the crust, for example in underground water pockets and oil pockets. similar to a small pocket of grease below the skin of that piece of chicken in the microwave heating and

Re: [Vo]:Whats with this device

2007-08-09 Thread leaking pen
he claims to have a level garage floor. ive sent him an email asking him to do and tape what someone else has already asked on the youtube link, which is to run it both ways on the floor. i havent looked at the other videos, just the wheel. On 8/9/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Vo]:Join the millions

2007-08-06 Thread leaking pen
wait, what? is this email about Ed? On 8/6/07, Horace Cochran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is CIALIS? CIALIS is the only ED (Erectile Disfunction) tablet clinically proven to work both up to 36 hours and in as fast as 30 minutes. And because CIALIS has an extended period of

[Vo]:Photosynthetic bacteria

2007-07-30 Thread leaking pen
http://live.psu.edu/story/25129 University Park, Pa. -- In the hot springs of Yellowstone National Park, a team of researchers has discovered a novel bacterium that transforms light into chemical energy. The discovery of the chlorophyll-producing bacterium, Candidatus Chloracidobacterium (Cab.)

Re: [Vo]:Pantone may be subjected to forced medication

2007-07-27 Thread leaking pen
Aye, his punishments according to that article indeed bring me to mind of prometheus. On 7/27/07, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Jones Beene wrote: Sad, but it does illustrate very dramatically the close connection between inventive, or creative, genius and

Re: [Vo]:Pantone may be subjected to forced medication

2007-07-27 Thread leaking pen
I'm with Orion here. If i dont write, create, or dream up mad schemes with regularity, i get a headache. Harlan Ellison said it best, when he talks about writing becuase he must, becuause if he doesnt spew the words out upon the page, the characters, the thoughts, they build up inside of him

Re: [Vo]:Re: centripetal force question

2007-07-20 Thread leaking pen
http://www.xkcd.com/c123.html that is all i have to say on teh subject On 7/20/07, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 20, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: I made a drawing of the situation I was imagining: http://web.ncf.ca/eo200/world-ferriswheel.html This might work

Re: [Vo]:Re: centripetal force question

2007-07-20 Thread leaking pen
on a more serious answer, if you are only taking the earths rotation into account, then yes, i would think so. remember, becuase of the tilt of teh earth, 90 degrees straight with teh ground would not be the right orientation, me thinks. How do you measure the force involved in a transfer of

Re: [Vo]:Re: centripetal force question

2007-07-20 Thread leaking pen
Ya'll should check the rest of that comic out, ive fallen in love with it. excellent math humor throughout. On 7/20/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: The spelling mistake must have have been due to my lack of attention from laughing so hard at the cartoon leaking

Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water

2007-07-19 Thread leaking pen
by definition, wouldnt increasing pressure change where the triple point is? On 7/19/07, Zachary Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've wondered this, too. I was illumined to consider a paper on sonomagnetism, a phenomena seen in the boundary layer of the oceanic thermocline. The motion of

Re: [Vo]:Strangeness with cold water

2007-07-19 Thread leaking pen
the expansion is due to crystal lattice forming, and many compounds exhibit it in different ranges, just not many that are that simple. the energy of compression, to a point, can actually go towards helping teh phase change, as i recall, but during that phase change, temp isnt going to change

Re: [Vo]:Neutron Properties

2007-06-28 Thread leaking pen
it may never be possible. you assume they MUST have an actual definate unchanging size. i would think that a natural consequence of string theory would be that they couldn't, and would in fact pulsate at different rates and amounts. On 6/28/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW - For

Re: [Vo]:Test

2007-06-27 Thread leaking pen
echo On 6/27/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Messages not getting through, or not coming back . . . -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]:US Lost

2007-06-21 Thread leaking pen
no. not with teh population we have, without a massive reduction in quality of life, particularly for the top 10 percent, and THAT will never happen without revolution. On 6/21/07, Stiffler Scientific [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to gain insight to the Vort's view on the following

Re: [Vo]:US Lost

2007-06-21 Thread leaking pen
actually, most us copper is still coming from arizona. On 6/21/07, StifflerScientific [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's science fiction, needless to say. Yes I agree, we would be stupid to do this ourselves, yet what if we really pis__d of China for example? Your not going to change gears over

Re: [Vo]:US Lost

2007-06-21 Thread leaking pen
:-) -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:US Lost actually, most us copper is still coming from arizona. On 6/21/07, StifflerScientific [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's science fiction, needless

Re: [Vo]:Space tractors seem ineffective

2007-06-18 Thread leaking pen
that would be great michel, if photon pressure was what was being discussed. I believe the discussion was gravity. I agree with you David, even at twenty tons, i dont think there would be much force. of course, remember that the larger the object being pulled in that way, the more force

Re: [Vo]:question about the Space Station

2007-06-13 Thread leaking pen
course correction occurs. as for how it works to correct course, read up on gyroscopes, and gyroscope navigation of submarines. On 6/12/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: On 6/12/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I regards to the Spacestation's gyros, I posted

Re: [Vo]:question about the Space Station

2007-06-12 Thread leaking pen
, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I regards to the Spacestation's gyros, I posted, and leaking pen replied: what do you mean by stops? they are mounted on arms, was my understanding. and try standing on a free spinning platform. spin a bike tire while holding it so it orients vertically

Re: [Vo]:question about the Space Station

2007-06-11 Thread leaking pen
what do you mean by stops? they are mounted on arms, was my understanding. and try standing on a free spinning platform. spin a bike tire while holding it so it orients vertically, grab it by the center, and turn it 90 degrees. fun experiment. On 6/11/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vo]:Another West Virginia Congressman promotes global warming

2007-06-08 Thread leaking pen
I'm conflicted. Im usually all in on an attack on california, but since this would help reduce one of my gripes with them (that the winds bring all their air pollution our way where it gets caught by hte mountains) I can't. And Rick, states rights, eh? On 6/8/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL

Re: [Vo]:Another West Virginia Congressman promotes global warming

2007-06-08 Thread leaking pen
from the dumb drivers they export On 6/8/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: I'm conflicted. Im usually all in on an attack on california . . . I had a low opinion of Gov. Schwarzenegger when he was elected, and I am a democrat, but if I lived in California I would

Re: [Vo]:Bollocks from the BBC

2007-05-29 Thread leaking pen
That an experiment is reproducible is the cornerstone of the scientific method. What, precisely, is your issue with the statement? As has been stated before, that is the difference between scientist and inventor. For an inventor, getting it to work now and again is enough. for a scientist, it

Re: [Vo]:radio frequency generator used to heat metals - and burn saltwater.

2007-05-25 Thread leaking pen
so basically, his machine heated metal to the point of seperation of water. what kind of energy input did he require, thats the question? On 5/25/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmm? Video: Water into fuel? Posted by: shane_digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] shane_digital Fri May 25, 2007

Re: [Vo]:radio frequency generator used to heat metals - and burn saltwater.

2007-05-25 Thread leaking pen
i meant, how much actuall energy did he have to run across it? would tell one whther or not the method would work for water fuel. On 5/25/07, Esa Ruoho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: an oscillator capable of radio-wave-band frequency generation? On 26/05/07, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [Vo]:Runaway Breakdown ionospheric energy tap

2007-05-10 Thread leaking pen
wouldnt most safe to use paintable beta emitters have much less energetic particles? On 5/9/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to William Beaty's message of Wed, 9 May 2007 11:23:07 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Normally a large Tesla coil sends out fractal plasma streamers:

Re: [Vo]:Runaway Breakdown ionospheric energy tap

2007-05-09 Thread leaking pen
what would you use as a source for the seeds? in addition, it would only throw the long sparks in the direction of the motion of the seeds, yes no? so if you were using someting along the lines of a particle beam gun to provide it, you could have a 10 foot sparker that shot 1000 foot arcs in

Re: [Vo]:Runaway Breakdown ionospheric energy tap

2007-05-09 Thread leaking pen
immediately goes to particle accelerators. and i see, that makes more sense. Sorry, my mind is on neutral today. On 5/9/07, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 9 May 2007, leaking pen wrote: what would you use as a source for the seeds? A 10MV tesla coil? If Tesla succeeded, his

Re: [Vo]:the times, they are a changin'

2007-05-07 Thread leaking pen
Ĉu vi parolas Esperanton? On 5/7/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones Beene wrote: A few years ago, 95-99 % of the comments about LENR on Slashdot would have ranged from negative to ROTFL, nowadays the skeptics are ... well... not yet crawling into holes, but shall we say - a bit

Re: [Vo]:the times, they are a changin'

2007-05-07 Thread leaking pen
nope, number five, after mexico, argentina, colombia, and spain. not neccesarily in that order. almost 30 million spanish speakers in the us. On 5/7/07, Jeff Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the US have the largest Spanish speaking population? Jeff -Original Message- From: Jones

Re: [Vo]:Second Life ( the Martix)

2007-04-26 Thread leaking pen
Jones... what are you smoking, and can i get some? On 4/26/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Second Life is an ominous code-word of sorts in today's meme_world. The meaning, however, depends on which clique one happens to be a part of- presently... gamer-dude. Hey, they may call it

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Gases

2007-04-26 Thread leaking pen
Of course, since that increase would increase the tides, and increase the amount of land underwater both during high and low tide, your comparison to the tides is completely irrelevant. On 4/26/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to leaking pen's message of Wed, 25 Apr

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Gases

2007-04-26 Thread leaking pen
Its not noise. its the normal cycle, and anything, even mm's is variation on the normal cycle. In addition, we are talking about the FUTURE, not right now. If the ice caps melt off, the sea level will rise by meters. No one is saying that small amount the sea levels have risen NOW is having a

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Gases

2007-04-25 Thread leaking pen
except water is still reflective, more reflective than land, and large amounts of land surface become water, yes? On 4/25/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to leaking pen's message of Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:36:37 -0700: Hi, [snip] now, the mechanism is likely a global

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Gases

2007-04-24 Thread leaking pen
no, its increased as a fraction by that much. its increased by 22.5 percent. (measurement of increase is against itself, as a fraction, not the whole) On 4/24/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nitrogen 78.084% Oxygen 20.946% Argon 0.934% Carbon dioxide 0.038% Water vapor 1% Other

Re: [Vo]:Atmospheric Gases

2007-04-24 Thread leaking pen
now, the mechanism is likely a global warming, causing ice cap melting and a change in albedo, causeing cooling, leading to ice age, thats the generally accepted mechanism. Its a form of control and cycle. Will the co2 going beyond what it gets too normally in that cycle change things? and how

Re: [Vo]:Read posts before replying, PLEASE

2007-04-24 Thread leaking pen
I couldnt be bothered to read youre whole post Kyle, becuase, frankly, the whole thing disgusts me. :D just kidding. and as a working class type person, I A. could care less about al gore and his carbon credits, and B. could care less about the working class as a whole having job and

Re: TEST, is [Vo]: tag working NOW?!!!

2007-04-13 Thread leaking pen
this is actually the first vo post ive gotten in months that DIDNT have the tag. On 4/13/07, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My fault. I think I got it this time. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. Beaty

Re: TEST, is [Vo]: tag working NOW?!!!

2007-04-13 Thread leaking pen
seriously, i use gmail. all the posts are marked vortex for me anyways! On 4/13/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just delete the fucking thing, Bill. We lived forever without it. Terry (I'll give you fifty dollars (US) to restore the forum the way it was.) PS (tell me how to pay

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread leaking pen
not in all of the us. a lot of empty ground is here in the southwest, and algae will grow year round. Also, large ponds that are heated... that waste heat goes straight up, and will change wehather patterns. On 4/2/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jones Beene wrote: That is an

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-04-02 Thread leaking pen
True, however, in terms of weather patterns, a small temperature over a large area has more effect than large but concentrated. see el nino. On 4/2/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: Also, large ponds that are heated... that waste heat goes straight up

Re: [Vo]: ORMES questions

2007-04-02 Thread leaking pen
there are many theories of everything. gut instinct, you know. On 4/2/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a serendipitous event last Thursday night. I met this Chem E. He was talking about remediating the waste out of a nickle mine. I mentioned ghost gold, he replied, ORMES. I

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread leaking pen
I for one never understood CORN being used. grow something with a higher fruit yeild per acre, and sugar yeild per pound. On 3/30/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recent negative comments on Vortex on this subject are short-sighted and counter productive, despite the fact that ethanol

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread leaking pen
Theres direct cellulose conversion now? I'm behind on the technology, obviously. On 3/30/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: I for one never understood CORN being used. grow something with a higher fruit yeild per acre, and sugar yeild per pound. The decision

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread leaking pen
This may make wood alchohol production useful again, as you can now break down both the lignin AND the cellulose. On 3/30/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: Theres direct cellulose conversion now? Yup. Only this year has the Rumpelstiltskin effect g come

Re: [Vo]: Engineering Bacteria to Harvest Light

2007-03-27 Thread leaking pen
Nice. theres also work now to put more traditional photosynthesis into such beasties as yeast. But thats a lot more complex work. On 3/27/07, Ron Wormus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is pretty cool! http://www.technologyreview.com/Biotech/18436/ -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: No Vo vote

2007-03-21 Thread leaking pen
i prefer it. having that tag makes it easier to sort out by my filters, and get the vo posts out of the junk folder. On 3/21/07, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill: Let's get rid of this crazy Vo: adding macro. It does not work! - Jed Agreed, let's make this a 'me too!' thread. My

Re: [Vo]: Archive erasement request

2007-03-20 Thread leaking pen
Or, as my friend Brad would often say back in high school, Alex... PUT THE SHOVEL DOWN! and i object as well. the archive is not just for the purpose of research into already discussed topics, but a source of info on the evolution and use of the list. i rankle at the thought of ANY censorship,

[Vo]: Brown's Gas burns hotter than the sun?

2007-03-07 Thread leaking pen
http://www.dailybeat.net/media/706/The-water-fueled-car.html yet another example of shoddy reporting. -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: Hysteria over Window Motor

2007-03-04 Thread leaking pen
i cant get the video to play. how long does he discharge? electrolytic caps have a discharge cycle, if its a quick flash, theres still some juice in there. On 2/17/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: On 2/17/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Time

Re: [Vo]: Re: No Thermite ?

2007-02-27 Thread leaking pen
this is not true. we have footage that shows the collapse of the inside of the building for the first few seconds, and arial footage showing it from the inside. On 2/27/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nick Palmer wrote: I do not think they went down in freefall, after a

Re: [Vo]: Re: No Thermite ?

2007-02-21 Thread leaking pen
Umm, so, if there were no suicide pilots, who was flying? On 2/21/07, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my point exactly. What I am saying has solid evidence to back it up, and you counter with 'Bush is a twit'. Which while obviously true, no one is claiming he did any of the

Re: [Vo]: No Thermite ?

2007-02-20 Thread leaking pen
not a skeptic, but, with the flow inside and out of the girder almost even, that one looks more like it sheared off at an angle, and then molten metal dripped over it. and, as someone that uses the stuff, that is NOT what thermite leftovers looks like. On 2/20/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Vo]: Re: No Thermite ?

2007-02-20 Thread leaking pen
oxide. the cooled metal there looks to me like melted cooled aluminum, not iron. its too smooth, thin, and silvery. On 2/20/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: not a skeptic, but, with the flow inside and out of the girder almost even, that one looks more like it sheared

Re: [Vo]: Re: No Thermite ?

2007-02-20 Thread leaking pen
of course, the traces of thermite are , again, iron, aluminum, and the oxides of each. ohh, and high heat. i think its safe to say the site was FULL of said materials. (besides, the sheared angle of the broken girder looks more like a shaped charge explosive cutting through. which would have

Re: [Vo]: Re: No Thermite ?

2007-02-20 Thread leaking pen
also, 5k pounds of thermite would be required to bring it down on its own. thats not the conspiracy theory. the theory is that the thermite was used to melt the concrete and weaken teh steal, allowing the rest of the natural damage from the plane to do it. that requires substantially less

Re: [Vo]: Re: No Thermite ?

2007-02-20 Thread leaking pen
Indeed, i recall experts being brought on teh air as the towers were burning stating they were designed to take this and more. my understanding the engineers who designed and built the suckers were shocked when they fell. On 2/20/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]: RAM - radar absorbing materials

2007-02-11 Thread leaking pen
First off, not all in a radar defeating scheme is absorbed, a lot is just scattered in various directions. secondly, most radar systems are, at a difference, not much energy. it likely drops back down to the unexcited stated, and emits a wave in some random direction. Might i suggest studying

Re: [Vo]: Once a Dream Fuel, Palm Oil May Be an Eco-Nightmare

2007-02-07 Thread leaking pen
its all in teh execution. On 2/7/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another bio-fuel turns out be an environmental nightmare. See: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/31/business/worldbusiness/31biofuel.html?pagewanted=1ei=5070en=f15ff4f804f7d47aex=1170997200 QUOTES: AMSTERDAM, Jan. 25

Re: [Vo]: electricity question

2007-02-01 Thread leaking pen
no, the way of phedre. heh. On 2/1/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: That which yields isn't always weak. The way of Tao? Harry -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: electricity question

2007-01-31 Thread leaking pen
depends what you mean by electrical power. by my understanding, wattage, the big way of measuring power, IS a change of electrical current over time. i could be mistaken, my understanding of units of electricity has always been iffy. On 1/31/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread leaking pen
since part of the process of making ethanol is making corn syrup, which converts a lot of the partially digested starches to sugars, yes, actually, the whole process is likely more effecient to burn then to eat. also, corn is already in just about everything we eat. we grow more corn than we

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread leaking pen
push new techniques and higher efficiency growing, so that will help. and immagine if all the money being spent on drilling, pumping, and refining, werent? the good that could be done with the numerical savings. On 1/19/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: since part

Re: [Vo]: Yomiuri: Bush to promote ethanol in State of the Union

2007-01-19 Thread leaking pen
That type of growing would be what i meant by more efficient. agreed. a single multistory building with perfect climate and soil control would be great. hell, run pigs and cattle on the top floor, and drop fertilizer down. On 1/19/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote

Re: [Vo]: Supermag WTF?

2007-01-15 Thread leaking pen
that they are the nations largest energy user? Wouldn't surprise me. Shy of maybe some company that owns a lot of manufacturuing facilities. And most Walmart stores are indeed single story. And 24 hours a day, and in places where weather patterns means not much sunlight. Just sunlight isnt

Re: [Vo]: Supermag WTF?

2007-01-15 Thread leaking pen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wal-Mart On 1/15/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: leaking pen wrote: that they are the nations largest energy user? Yes, exactly! Wouldn't surprise me. Shy of maybe some company that owns a lot of manufacturuing facilities. Like Nucor

Re: [Vo]: rocketry question

2007-01-14 Thread leaking pen
by definition, wouldnt that be a jet and not a rocket? On 1/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has the merit of not altering the composition of the atmosphere. The Isp can be improved with a nonmaterial nozzle directing very hot exhaust. I think that a directional leak for

[Vo]: Bio.... BUTANOL?

2007-01-10 Thread leaking pen
Very interesting article. http://www.forbes.com/business/2006/06/20/ethanol-fuel-biobutanol-cz_kad_0620ethanol.html SAN FRANCISCO - DuPont and BP, riding the global wave of enthusiasm for bio-based fuels, announced today that the two companies have developed a new biofuel called biobutanol that

Re: [Vo]: We are Scientists?

2006-12-15 Thread leaking pen
When one looks at what is going on at the bio level and has a summary knowledge of the molecular level, if you are sane, you will not remain for long. very much agreed on that above statement. and im a christian myself, though i do believe it quite possible life started by accidental

Re: [Vo]: We are Scientists?

2006-12-15 Thread leaking pen
quote as it has been 50 some years from the time I read a Bible. This is not the issue. WE, mortals have no real concept of where and how we evolved, we add volumes of information, yet we ignore (?) well those first atom were just there. :-) -Original Message- From: leaking pen [mailto

Re: [Vo]: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-29 Thread leaking pen
well, i like my pool. but then, in arizona, its a little more of a neccessitya nd less a luxury On 11/29/06, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/28/06, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i take it youve never heard of watermellon snow? http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plaug98.htm

Re: [Vo]: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-29 Thread leaking pen
. (dealt with several this summer. massvie amounts of trees plus blowing dust. kills the chlorine. for acid rain, try a salt water chlorinator. adds some base, is more self stabilized. ) On 11/29/06, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/06, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, i like

Re: [Vo]: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-28 Thread leaking pen
first off, i first heard the theory that earth spent time as an iceball after the molten slagball before the dirt ball stage AGES ago. its an accepted geologic theory that said icing over is what broke down early rock into the first sand and dirt to provide a base for life as the ice melted.

Re: [VO]:Re: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-28 Thread leaking pen
actually, the more elastic something is, the more it forms a ball under its own gravity as well as surface tension. (ie, fluids, even if small enough to not have gravity of their own, will still pull into a sphere in zero g from surface tension. its the smallest volume to surface area ratio,

Re: [Vo]: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-28 Thread leaking pen
PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: leaking pen why WOULDNT have early aneaorbic life had oxygen as a waste product? pretty simple really -- they cannot live on the surface of ice. The ice surface, then as now, is inhospitable to chlorophyl based plants or algae and the ice

Re: [Vo]: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-28 Thread leaking pen
i take it youve never heard of watermellon snow? http://waynesword.palomar.edu/plaug98.htm On 11/28/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: leaking pen why WOULDNT have early aneaorbic life had oxygen as a waste product? pretty simple really

Re: [Vo]: BioMimicry, the old way

2006-11-28 Thread leaking pen
well, i first heard about the stuff in my dec 1987 volume of national geographics for kids, but hey On 11/28/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] i take it youve never heard of watermellon snow? http

Re: [Vo]: Bill Beaty's inspiring Videos

2006-11-02 Thread leaking pen
bill put up videos? i missed this. anyone have a link? On 11/2/06, Steven Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Bill Beaty's inspiring science videos on YouTube, I've decided to start putting up some of my own content. So when you're really bored and have nothing to do, here's the first

Re: [VO]:Stare

2006-10-21 Thread leaking pen
should the net ever truly become a war ground, it will return to the original field of battle, as it was in the late 80s (this war is older than you think) and it will compartmentalize. connections will e through central nodes, like the bbs'es of old. there are already people working on teh

[Vo]: It was indeed a nuke

2006-10-16 Thread leaking pen
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,221182,00.html And, less than a kiloton. now, everyone ive heard is saying, wow, thats just a baby nuke. aww, isnt that cute. they blew up a bomb smaller than some CONVENTIAL bombs we have. however, i recall back when the bunker buster nukes were being

Re: [Vo]: Kim's nuke

2006-10-16 Thread leaking pen
rots the brain.. yeah, some say the same about comic books. and http://www.fas.org/faspir/2001/v54n1/weapons.htm On 10/16/06, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just heard Fox news say that the NK did detonate an atom bomb. Last night Hal Lindsey mentioned the 550 ton yield. Since the

Re: [Vo]: OT: Massive oil field found under Gulf

2006-10-09 Thread leaking pen
first off, how does this give evidence of an abiotic source? im missing something. second, even if true, its formed very very slowly. meaning we WILL run out. On 9/12/06, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Massive oil field found under Gulf Reserves south of New Orleans could rival

Re: [Vo]: Testing

2006-09-29 Thread leaking pen
well, all i did was write a suject in the subject field. are you adding the [Vo}: yourself jones? On 9/29/06, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: testing subject. -- That which yields isn't always weak. -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: Testing

2006-09-29 Thread leaking pen
ohh, youre using outlook express. thats your problem there. its a pos. ive had mails sent but not sent, subject lines mangled and dropped ALL the time when i was using it. On 9/29/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] well

Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor

2006-09-15 Thread leaking pen
if its based on difference in wave velocity, wouldnt stationary be based on the surrounding radiation fields? and if so... now, uber amateur here, im einsteinian, in that, im great with theory, weak with mathematics, would two of these drives mounted at an angle to each other, say, a 90 between

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
not all terrorist groups are muslim, and not all muslim groups are oil funded. drugs funds a lot of them as well, and some are funded through other, not oil businesses. On 8/14/06, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edmund Storms wrote:No one can win against a foe who is willing to die for

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
, and groups like his still exist. there are still anti government riots and terror attacks and plots from many groups that are not muslim. assuming otherwise becuase a single convenient scapegoat makes you FEEL better is foolhardy. On 8/14/06, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Leaking pen wrote:not all

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
hes also stating that the average person ever sees dime one of the oil money. its the primary income for the RICH. not every one else there. On 8/14/06, Edmund Storms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jed, you are proposing we treat the Moslem countries exactly how wetreated Germany after WWI.The plan was

Re: [Vo]: OFF TOPIC How to deal with terrorism

2006-08-14 Thread leaking pen
lets also recall where osama bin laden got his training in guerilla warfare. yup, us, when we supported him in afghanistan to drive out russia. On 8/14/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply toJed Rothwell's message of Mon, 14 Aug 2006 15:22:41-0400:Hi,[snip]What makes these

Re: [Vo]: help requested mpg to swf

2006-08-06 Thread leaking pen
why not just upload the mpeg to youtube? On 8/5/06, Steve Krivit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any Vorts skilled at converting mpg to swf? I've got a one-hour video from1989 of an internal EPRI meeting about CF that I'd love to drop on the net. I could use either some guidance (I own Macromedia MX

Re: [Vo]: unsubscribe

2006-08-02 Thread leaking pen
same way you subscribed, but in reverse. On 8/2/06, Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Guys,How do I unsubscribe?Thanks!Anthony -- That which yields isn't always weak.

Re: [Vo]: Tesla Unveiled

2006-07-26 Thread leaking pen
generally not, no. most bearings are closed lube system now. On 7/20/06, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting the Tesla Motors FAQ:The Tesla Roadster has no motor oil or oilfilters to change, no smog equipment to check, no air filters to replace, no power steering fluids to refill.It

Re: [Vo]: Tesla Unveiled

2006-07-26 Thread leaking pen
now, wait, it said a black box was the power source for an electric motor put into it. so the motor was replaced, not the regular motor. therefore, existing gearing goes out the window. On 7/26/06, RC Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy Terry,The link refers to Tesla's 1931 Pierce -Arrow

Re: [Vo]: OT: Buzz Aldrin comes clean

2006-07-25 Thread leaking pen
god that is kim jong il, but close. news that there are greater than human beings? not smart move! On 7/25/06, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/25/06, leaking pen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but seriously, what would it avail them?what would be the benefit to admiting it publicly for them

Re: [Vo]: Now Teeth Can Be Regrown

2006-07-21 Thread leaking pen
hmm, regrowing jawbone, we already have. parts of teeth, we already have. but this is nice. On 7/21/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, apparently we now have the technology to regrow teeth, also to help regenerate receding gums or bone in the mouth.

Re: Calling for list manager attention (was Re: Cart before the horse)

2006-06-08 Thread leaking pen
i believe list manager would be bill beaty, and from what i can see, he doesnt always go through all the emails. you might wanna try him directly On 6/8/06, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure but then people who only watch their inbox like me will miss the posts, or they will check them

Re: SSE conference schedule

2006-06-06 Thread leaking pen
i was almost tempted to make a road trip of it until you said orem. i hit a cow on a road trip in 96 about a mile south of there, pulled into town, stayed the night at a hotel, informed the local authorities about it, and was arrested for not reporting the collision at the time (1 am...) yeah,

Giggle

2006-05-26 Thread leaking pen
Anyone seen this sucker? http://cgi.ebay.com/THE-TESLA-SHIELD-radionics-psionics-rife-orgone-magick_W0QQitemZ9522360679QQcategoryZ1523QQcmdZViewItem among other things, it incorporates the measurement of the cubit... isnt a cubit from your shoulder to your pointing index finger?

Re: Precessional Work

2006-05-02 Thread leaking pen
sounds great. now, where do we get a zero friction bearing? On 5/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this elsewhere; but, Vorts deserve a chance to poo-poo it.Thanks to Beene and Grimer for the inspiration. Imagine a gyroscope with zero bearing friction and windage.It

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