Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Robin
In reply to Jim Dickenson's message of Sun, 19 Jun 2022 02:54:54 +0900: Hi, [snip] >Hi, > >This sounds like the most logical explanation or there were explicit >instructions in his will to discontinue the web sites. Who knows? > >Interestingly, a Bearden DVD was sent to Dutchsinse and he posted

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Jim Dickenson
Hi, This sounds like the most logical explanation or there were explicit instructions in his will to discontinue the web sites. Who knows? Interestingly, a Bearden DVD was sent to Dutchsinse and he posted it to YouTube on 29 April 2022. Here's the link:

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
Internet censorship does occur, dealt with by wiki at - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship if conspiracy then openly admitted conspiracy -- Original Message -- From: "Nicholas Palmer" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, 18 Jun, 22 At 02:06 Subject: Re: [V

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
The ISP, Worldnic.com, appears to be offline. It can't be reached. That could be the problem. Then again, net sleuths say that worldnic.com changed its name to netsol.com, and it may now be part of networksolutions.com, which is still active. https://www.networksolutions.com/ That is who hosts

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Whois says the Domain is still active. It is paid for through 2024. Probably, the ISP was not paid. As I said, the ISP will probably not delete the content from its servers for a while. If someone contacts them, they may help with reviving the site or transferring the data. Here is the Whois

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-17 Thread Nicholas Palmer
dered in regard to a potential radioactive battery patent. > > > > *From:* Nicholas Palmer > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:29 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone > > > > Chris Zell - what part of this in Jed's rep

[Vo]:WOW, alex frolov is still alive!

2022-06-17 Thread William Beaty
I thought Frolov was long gone (may have confused him with S. Marinov.) Like Naudin, he had MEG test reports, plus LOTS of other Russian crackpot stuff which we in the USA have never encountered ...but it was all paper publications. Testing of time machines. Poliakov antigravity. Kilowatt

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-17 Thread Chris Zell
ks are dead. Google frequently leads searches far away from what was intended. Since the discussion is about Bearden - he thought Arie De Geus was murdered in regard to a potential radioactive battery patent. From: Nicholas Palmer Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:29 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.

Re: [Vo]:Reversing global warming and removing carbon from the atmosphere with cold fusion

2022-06-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Andrew Meulenberg wrote: > On the other hand, with uncontrolled population growth . . . > Population growth is not uncontrolled. On the contrary, it has largely stopped. What I mean is, the only age cohort that is growing is people in the Third World over age 40. Their numbers are increasing

Re: [Vo]:Reversing global warming and removing carbon from the atmosphere with cold fusion

2022-06-15 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Dear Jed, Among the advantages of my system is the ability to provide a low-cost (yet ecologically sound and man-rated) mass-transfer system as a low-earth-orbit "waystation" that can then provide massive boosts to interplanetary transportation (e.g. to L1). The ability to transfer people from

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-15 Thread Nicholas Palmer
> > https://energyfromthorium.com/2014/04/13/mythology-thorium-car-thorium-plasma-batteries/ > > > > And here is a site denouncing the idea – loaded up with dead end links, as > I said. > > > > *From:* Jed Rothwell > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:05 PM > *T

Re: [Vo]:OT: Journal of Universal Rejection

2022-06-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I like it!

Re: [Vo]:OT: Journal of Universal Rejection

2022-06-15 Thread David L. Babcock
Oh wow! Thank you! On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 9:03 PM H LV wrote: > > https://universalrejection.org/ > > ;-) > Harry >

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-15 Thread Chris Zell
://energyfromthorium.com/2014/04/13/mythology-thorium-car-thorium-plasma-batteries/ And here is a site denouncing the idea - loaded up with dead end links, as I said. From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2022 6:05 PM To: Vortex Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone Chris Zell

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
Esa Ruoho wrote: Anyway I've mailed Anthony Craddock about cheniere + energyfromthevacuum. > Eagerly waiting for a response. > He should be the go-to-guy for paying for those domains. > It may be the domain has lapsed, or the ISP annual fee, or both. (In some cases, the ISP also maintains the

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-15 Thread Esa Ruoho
Anyway I've mailed Anthony Craddock about cheniere + energyfromthevacuum. Eagerly waiting for a response. He should be the go-to-guy for paying for those domains. ke 15. kesäk. 2022 klo 1.11 Jed Rothwell (jedrothw...@gmail.com) kirjoitti: > I wrote: > > >> The day the website bill comes due,

[Vo]:OT: Journal of Universal Rejection

2022-06-14 Thread H LV
https://universalrejection.org/ ;-) Harry

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > The day the website bill comes due, payment will be refused and the ISP > told the card holder is deceased. Of course the site will be taken offline. > My credit card number once changed, and I forgot to update the ISP account. On the day the payment came due, it did not go through.

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell wrote: I would say that the ‘thorium battery’ on the internet has been thoroughly > scrubbed and every link eliminated. A Google search for "thorium battery" (in quotes) turns up more than a thousand items. Without the quotes, more than a million. There is an organization devoted to

RE: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-14 Thread Chris Zell
: Monday, June 13, 2022 4:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone information is being purged from internet as part of the political campaign to delete fake news -- Original Message -- From: "Esa Ruoho" mailto:esaru...@gmail.com>&

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > >Not only that but seems like http://energyfromthevacuum.com is also > gone. I wonder whats up now. > > No one paying the bill any more? > If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :) > I suppose he was paying for the website with his credit card, the way I

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread Robin
In reply to Esa Ruoho's message of Mon, 13 Jun 2022 19:17:42 +0300: Hi, [snip] >Not only that but seems like http://energyfromthevacuum.com is also gone. I >wonder whats up now. No one paying the bill any more? If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :)

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
AI being used to remove fake news -> How AI can Remove Fake News https://bywire.news/articles/how-ai-can-remove-fake-news -- Original Message -- From: "ROGER ANDERTON" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 13 Jun, 22 At 21:54 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and chen

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
information is being purged from internet as part of the political campaign to delete fake news -- Original Message -- From: "Esa Ruoho" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 13 Jun, 22 At 17:17 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone Not only that but seems

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread Esa Ruoho
Not only that but seems like http://energyfromthevacuum.com is also gone. I wonder whats up now. — http://linkedin.com/in/esaruoho // http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // +358403703659 // http://www.lackluster.org // http://facebook.com/LacklusterOfficial //

Re: [Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread Jones Beene
What is the meaning of Bearden's work - as you understand it? Was there reliable evidence of an energy anomaly? As I recall, there were several high quality attempted replications of MEG - like that of Naudin which showed nothing more than a moderately efficient transformer Jones David

[Vo]:Bearden dead and cheniere.org gone

2022-06-13 Thread David Jonsson
https://obits.al.com/us/obituaries/huntsville/name/thomas-bearden-obituary?id=32759244 Is there a web archive somewhere? Here is one saved in April 2022 https://web.archive.org/web/20220428030850/http://www.cheniere.org/ I began faxing Bearden in the 1990s. It took more than two decades before I

[Vo]:Toward a LENR reference experiment

2022-06-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
"Toward a LENR reference experiment" F. Metzler at the ARPA-E Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions Workshop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ec9OnfWvOjs

Re: [Vo]:Reversing global warming and removing carbon from the atmosphere with cold fusion

2022-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
That is great stuff! Thanks. Your proposal is low earth orbit. I have heard of others like this. The one linked to at BBC.com is for a very distant space umbrella, at earth-sun L1. I don't understand how that would work. It seems harder to set up. But the technical details and astronomy are over

Re: [Vo]:Reversing global warming and removing carbon from the atmosphere with cold fusion

2022-06-09 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Dear Jed, You included this link, which I thought might have been referring to my papers since some of the numbers agreed with mine. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160425-how-a-giant-space-umbrella-could-stop-global-warming * On closer look, I saw that the author did not suggest some of

[Vo]:Reversing global warming and removing carbon from the atmosphere with cold fusion

2022-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
I have discussed these topics here from time to time. I am preparing a talk on them. I propose to stop global warming using cold fusion in two steps: 1. Stop emitting carbon dioxide by using cold fusion energy. 2. Remove excess carbon from the atmosphere by growing billions of trees.

Re: [Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-20 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 20 May 2022 13:22:05 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] >Elon Musk has a strong and important opinion on using hydrogen as a way to >store green (wind) energy >"The most dumb thing" >

Re: [Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-20 Thread Jones Beene
Elon Musk has a strong and important opinion on using hydrogen as a way to store green (wind) energy "The most dumb thing" https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/12/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-dismisses-hydrogen-as-tool-for-energy-storage.html However, Musk's starting assumptions could be wrong - ... if that is

Re: [Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin wrote: > However, for > >large scale storage, hydrogen may have an edge. I wouldn't know about > that. > > I think it would, because the fuel/electrolysis cell itself is of fixed > size, and hence cost, whereas the cost of > hydrogen storage in a tank decreases per unit volume, with the

Re: [Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-19 Thread Robin
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 19 May 2022 17:39:02 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Generating hydrogen with wind turbines is a way to store the energy. That >is needed because wind power does not come on demand. It may be that >battery storage is now more economical than storing hydrogen.

Re: [Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: That is to say - if LENR is indeed real and robust - then it is very likely > that splitting water using catalysis, on a large scale will uncover the > extent of LENR utility as a base technology. > Why? What would be the point of splitting water if you have LENR? What would

[Vo]:A step towards LENR commercialization ?

2022-05-19 Thread Jones Beene
This mega-project - which is to split water on a massive scale using green energy (wind) - makes almost no economic sense to many observers of alternative energy ... especially not to Elon Musk - who thinks battery storage makes more sense.

Re: [Vo]: David LaPoint's Primer Field Theory and applications for PrimerFusion.

2022-05-15 Thread Robin
In reply to Drowning Trout's message of Sun, 15 May 2022 04:48:34 -0400: Hi, [snip] I get the impression that the fast particle production rate is way to low to be useful. >David LaPoint's Primer Field Theory and applications for PrimerFusion. >https://primerfusion.org/ > >Thus far everything

[Vo]: David LaPoint's Primer Field Theory and applications for PrimerFusion.

2022-05-15 Thread Drowning Trout
David LaPoint's Primer Field Theory and applications for PrimerFusion. https://primerfusion.org/ Thus far everything David LaPoint has done has been well documented and in an open source manner, including materials/processes and CAD files for anyone who wants to replicate. He's been pursuing this

[Vo]:A revised version of my book in Chinese

2022-05-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Translated by people, not the Google computers. See: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJlengjubian.pdf Another of my papers translated: https://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJreviewofthb.pdf

[Vo]:Laser Cooling of Solids

2022-05-08 Thread H LV
Implementation of Laser-Induced Anti-Stokes Fluorescence Power Cooling of Ytterbium-Doped Silica Glass published May 2021 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsomega.1c00116 Abstract Laser cooling of a solid is achieved when a coherent laser illuminates the material, and the heat is extracted by

Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon

2022-05-07 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
ent: *Monday, May 2, 2022 3:18 PM *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon William There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e- annihilation us

RE: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon

2022-05-07 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
, 2022 3:18 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon William There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e-

Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-06 Thread Jones Beene
Laser cooling ... could this mechanism (arguably) have a connection to the Holmlid effect? Holmlid suggests that laser irradiation in his reactor is able to annihilate protons, converting them to muons, Ostensibly this sounds more like heating than cooling. Unfortunately his company  -

Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-06 Thread H LV
A video about laser cooling for the layman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEAZaXhD_Y Harry On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:16 AM H LV wrote: > Laser cooling is the cooling of atoms via spontaneous emission. > In the video they say the laser radiation provides a damping force at a > particular

Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-05 Thread Robin
modify QM system allowed energy >states . > > >Bob Cook > >From: Robin<mailto:mixent...@aussiebroadband.com.au> >Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 3:03 PM >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> >Subject: Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with ra

RE: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-05 Thread Chris Zell
arbitrary. From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2022 1:48 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation Robin-- Why does nuclear decay happen routinely? The swap of potential energy of a QM system is not without restrictions

RE: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-04 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
:03 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 4 May 2022 16:49:08 +: Hi Bob, [snip] >Radiation cooling is how the final process of LENR works. > >The first

Re: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-04 Thread Robin
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Wed, 4 May 2022 16:49:08 +: Hi Bob, [snip] >Radiation cooling is how the final process of LENR works. > >The first step is to swap nuclear potential energy to kinetic spin phonic >energy of a QM atom (including electronic structure) which is

RE: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-04 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
is consistent with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Bob Cook From: H LV<mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 6:16 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation Laser cooling is the cooling of atoms

[Vo]:Laser Cooling -> Cooling with radiation

2022-05-04 Thread H LV
Laser cooling is the cooling of atoms via spontaneous emission. In the video they say the laser radiation provides a damping force at a particular frequency. This is very close to how Count Rumford envisaged frigorific radiation working. Is it such a leap to imagine this kind of cooling is

RE: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon

2022-05-03 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
dea of quantized space. Bob Cook From: William Beaty<mailto:bi...@eskimo.com> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2022 9:01 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, H LV wrote: > &g

Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon

2022-05-02 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
William There extremely rarely is a two 511keV e+/e- decay signal seen. Its a special case that can only happen in a contained case. Free e+/e- annihilation usually is a 3 photon decay with <<0.01% being of 511keV... The 511keV decay signal is an old illusion, that triggered a completely

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-05-02 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Jurg, You state "In SOP we show that the electron is a resonance of the proton." Since I believe that the proton is composed of relativistic leptons and leptons of EM fields (expressed as photons?), you have presented something that will take me time to examine. I hope to do so - eventually.

Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon

2022-05-02 Thread William Beaty
On Sat, 30 Apr 2022, H LV wrote: New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-ph enomenon.html VERY cool! Perhaps this points to a new kind of physics which is a synthesis of

[Vo]:Torsion field research (fwd)

2022-05-01 Thread William Beaty
see below... vhttps://www.spintorsion.com Please contact me if you want to email Neil D. (( ( ( ( ((O)) ) ) ) ))) William J. BeatySCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com

[Vo]:OT: Hegel

2022-04-30 Thread H LV
A digestible introduction to Hegel's philosophy from the School of Life channel. 7 minutes "The German philosopher Hegel believed that strange and alien bits of history have much to teach us. He believed story and civilisation do not move in a straight line, so important ideas and attitudes get

Re: [Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon

2022-04-30 Thread H LV
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 9:20 AM H LV wrote: > > New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics > phenomenon > > https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-phenomenon.html > quote > "As we have explained in this study, there is a simple,

[Vo]:laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon

2022-04-30 Thread H LV
New research shows that laser spectral linewidth is classical-physics phenomenon https://phys.org/news/2020-07-laser-spectral-linewidth-classical-physics-phenomenon.html quote "As we have explained in this study, there is a simple, easy-to-understand derivation of the laser spectral linewidth, and

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread H LV
Time is absolute In quantum mechanics like it is in Newtonian mechanics. However, since Newtonian mechanics does not allow for non-locality, it could be that the Newtonian sense of absolute time (N-Time) differs subtley from the Quantum Mechanical sense of absolute time (Q-Time). Perhaps the

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
- Original Message -- From: "Vibrator !" To: vortex-L@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 29 Apr, 22 At 23:43 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics > So progression from 18th century theory of Boscovich to modern physics Fascinating, i was unaware of Boscovich's cont

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread Vibrator !
> So progression from 18th century theory of Boscovich to modern physics Fascinating, i was unaware of Boscovich's contributions, great first-principle reasoning though.. There's still a good bit of unfinished business with certain 18th-century breakthroughs that've languished, but don't get me

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-29 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Andrew Just one thing: I assume that you mean the atom (including the bound electron) is neutral. If you mean that the bound electron (in its interaction with the nuclear Coulomb field) is uncharged EM field only, then this would be one of our incompatible assumptions. However, I am

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
29 Apr, 22 At 19:38 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics Did Boscovich subscribe to a wave or a particle view of light? I wonder if electrons are "elementary points" and protons are "first order particles" in Boscosvich's scheme. https://youtu.be/w1vi0

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread Vibrator !
in add: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/quantum/schr.html IE. equivalent, not conflicting..

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread Vibrator !
> here is an example > Absorption and Stimulated Emission by a Thin Slab Obeying the Lorentz > Oscillator Model It's a quantitative formulation from classical first principles, sans Schrodinger.. whereas the wave equation approximates the time evolution of the wavefunction; you could describe a

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread H LV
ion from 18th century theory of Boscovich to modern physics > > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "H LV" > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Sent: Friday, 29 Apr, 22 At 13:19 > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 20

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
hysics -- Original Message -- From: "H LV" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, 29 Apr, 22 At 13:19 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 5:44 PM Vibrator ! <mailto:mrvibrat...@gmail.com> > wrote: I have been doing more

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-29 Thread H LV
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 5:44 PM Vibrator ! wrote: > > I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated > > emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept > in > > 1917. > > Therefore you might think that it is only possible in a quantum > theoretical > >

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-28 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 3:15 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Andrew, > > I started to dig deeper the last few months and it became clear that most > of the classic physics approaches are Kindergarten level physics based on > wrong understanding of basic physics rules. > On 25.04.2022 17:53, Andrew

[Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-28 Thread Vibrator !
> I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated > emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept in > 1917. > Therefore you might think that it is only possible in a quantum theoretical > context. However, subsequent mathematical work has shown that a form

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-28 Thread MSF
Harry wrote: > I had to look up those references. :-) > > Susquehanna Hat Co > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THZV5g1CNZM > The Three Stooges - Slowly I Turned > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYP1OBZfFK0 > >> Clearly you have been too enveloped in your flaming youth to appreciate the finer

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-28 Thread H LV
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 2:42 AM William Beaty wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, H LV wrote: > > > I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated > > emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept > in > > 1917. > > "STIMULATED EMISSION!" Oh man don't even

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-28 Thread H LV
On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 2:42 AM William Beaty wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, H LV wrote: > > > I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated > > emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept > in > > 1917. > > "STIMULATED EMISSION!" Oh man don't even

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-28 Thread H LV
Jones, I looked quickly at the patent by Haisch and Moddel but could not find anything about cooling. However, the authors of this paper, ttps://arxiv.org/abs/0910.5893 experimentally investigated the claims of Haisch and Moddel in section 2.3.2. They tried to find alternative explanations for the

Re: [Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-28 Thread William Beaty
On Wed, 27 Apr 2022, H LV wrote: I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept in 1917. "STIMULATED EMISSION!" Oh man don't even get me started. (Too late!) Saying the words Stimulated Emission, that's

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-27 Thread Vibrator !
The Anomalous Magnetization of Iron and Steel, B. Osgood Peirce 1912: https://www.jstor.org/stable/20022770?seq=2 The effects seem to pertain to high dv/dt impulses however.. not to mention antique metallurgical samples (the high-Sv kind). Modern electrical steels OTOH are designed to be

[Vo]:Stimulated emission and Pre-Quantum Physics

2022-04-27 Thread H LV
I have been doing more reading about the history of stimulated emission. Einstein formally introduced a quantum version of the concept in 1917. Therefore you might think that it is only possible in a quantum theoretical context. However, subsequent mathematical work has shown that a form of

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-26 Thread Vibrator !
> Think of little magnets arranged end to end. NSNSNS etc. Not only do they > attract but the field is cumulative, and as it > get stronger it "convinces" other magnets to align the same way. Variability of domain pinning strengths (individual domain wall coercivities) is one cause of Sv per

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Thanks, Jones...Danzik was what I was trying to remember, along with the Earth Engine. How do you do that with the neurons you have left? On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 4:33 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back. > > ... or Steorn. > > > >

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
There is huge pent-up demand for cheap and carbon-free electrical power these days, and gullible investors are constantly being fooled. PT Barnum underestimated. Holcomb Energy's technical claims may be unsophisticated to the point of being laughable but they will find a few suckers. Holcomb

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Photons are the universal = most basic form of energy. With photons you can transport energy over any distance. So here the equivalence relation E = mc^2 is obvious. Same for the Pointing power vector for a radiation field. But if you write E = mc^2 and e.g. m is 4-He then the equation simply

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Robin
In reply to Vibrator !'s message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 23:16:20 +0100: Hi, [snip] >The guy's claiming that induced B in 'electrical steel' climbs to 500% of >applied H. Think of little magnets arranged end to end. NSNSNS etc. Not only do they attract but the field is cumulative, and as it get

[Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Vibrator !
The guy's claiming that induced B in 'electrical steel' climbs to 500% of applied H. He's basically claiming runaway self-induction, apparently as an inherent property of this material. So what to make of it? Applying an H field induces a B field, giving their combined field density M, or net

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread AlanG
Here's some interesting and colorful background on the principal "inventor" Dr Roberet Ray Holcomb: https://casetext.com/case/in-re-holcomb-health-care-services On 4/25/2022 2:47 PM, Robin wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:32:24 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] Very

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 22:17:01 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Classic misunderstanding ... the bomb energy comes from E=dmc^2 . > > >J.W. That was assumed anyway. I.e. the change in mass is where the energy comes from. Are you saying that E=mc^2 is not the total energy of

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 20:32:24 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] > Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back. > >... or Steorn. > > He appears to confuse magnetic field strength with energy. However, that said, perhaps it works in a similar

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread H LV
I think I have posted this before, but Einstein was also able to derive E=mc^2 without recourse to his theory of special relativity. Max Born presented this alternate derivation in his book Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Here is the proof:

Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
Harry - perhaps you should have a look at the work and patents of Haisch and Moddel on the Lamb shift mechanism using hydrogen or helium in Casimir cavities. The dynamical Casimir effect can be either positive or negative and Lamb shift photons would be cold. IIRC there was a measured

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread H LV
I was thinking about LASERS (Light amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation) and it occurred to me that the notion of cooling radiation is already present in quantum theory, but it is disguised as "stimulated emission" in order to respect the mid 19th century doctrine that cooling

Re: [Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
Very similar to the Dennis Danzig "Earth Engine" scam of a few years back. ... or Steorn. Terry Blanton wrote: So does anyone know about these folks?  They make me think of Steorn but with credentials. https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/ THE TECHNOLOGY The HES utilizes

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Classic misunderstanding ... the bomb energy comes from E=dmc^2 . J.W. On 25.04.2022 21:23, Robin wrote: In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:25:49 +0200: Hi Jürg, If E=mc^2 is wrong, then perhaps you should write the major nuclear powers, and explain to them why

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Andrew, I started to dig deeper the last few months and it became clear that most of the classic physics approaches are Kindergarten level physics based on wrong understanding of basic physics rules. On 25.04.2022 17:53, Andrew Meulenberg wrote: Jurg, Thank you for the comments. It helps

Re: [Vo]:A simpler test

2022-04-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Reminds me of "The Electric Universe Theory" including the *Safire Project* .

RE: [Vo]:A simpler test

2022-04-25 Thread Chris Zell
There is a small earth to air current. Very weak but measurable. There were attempts to gather this current with balloons covered with spikes, hundreds of feet up. So, I guess the earth is negative. From: H LV Sent: Monday, April 25, 2022 3:02 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo

[Vo]:Another Irish FE Firm?

2022-04-25 Thread Terry Blanton
So does anyone know about these folks? They make me think of Steorn but with credentials. https://holcombenergysystems.com/about-us/the-team/ THE TECHNOLOGY The HES utilizes the natural energy produced by the electron spin in the iron atom, converting it into usable electricity. Through a total

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:25:49 +0200: Hi Jürg, If E=mc^2 is wrong, then perhaps you should write the major nuclear powers, and explain to them why their bombs don't work. ;) >Andrew, > > >I could give you a very long list. First problem: The Dirac equation

Re: [Vo]:A simpler test

2022-04-25 Thread H LV
Using something similar to this method? > > > > *From:* H LV > *Sent:* Saturday, April 23, 2022 12:33 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:A simpler test > > > > Update... > > I haven't done any experiments yet, but I have refined my thinkin

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Jurg, Thank you for the comments. It helps us to understand the reasons behind rejection of the concept of deep-orbit electrons. Comments below On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:25 AM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Andrew, > > I could give you a very long list. First problem: *The Dirac equation > itself

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Andrew, I could give you a very long list. First problem: The Dirac equation itself is only working for fields and never for mass. The inclusion of the relativistic mass simply is an error made by a mathematician with no clue of physics. The Einstein equation (E=mc^2) has been guessed 

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