From: Roarty, Francis X
* Perhaps vacuum energy cannot perform measurable work at our typical
physical macro velocities relative to C …
Well, it is pretty clear from the literature, starting in 2011 and continuing
to recent papers - that the DCE the dynamical Casimir
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I don't believe that the vacuum does work.
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Eric Walker
<eric.wal...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:15:18 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
>On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:36 PM, wrote:
>
>I'm always a bit suspicious of theories that make use of "negative energy".
>>
>
>It's what is needed to do negative work.
Is that work, that once
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:38 PM, wrote:
>It's what is needed to do negative work.
>
> Is that work, that once having been done, requires even more work to fix
> up the
> result? :)
>
I was wondering what it was myself. :) It was fun to think about. Now I
see why the
law.
Fran
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Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 4:44 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
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In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:18 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Let us get
If the vacuum can be induced to generate more virtual particle production
in one location then another location of the vacuum must produce less
virtual particle production to keep the average energy production of the
vacuum zero.
The suppression of virtual particles through this unbalancing
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:53:18 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Let us get to the bottom of this fear. Expand...
It depends on exactly what is meant by negative energy. If meant in an absolute
sense, then I am very doubtful. However if it's just a consequence of only
considering
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:04:51 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>Do you believe the the Penrose mechanism can also add a multiplier effect
>to the extraction of energy from the vacuum in the dark mode SPP?
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_process
I'm always a bit suspicious
Let us get to the bottom of this fear. Expand...
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:36 PM, wrote:
> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 9 Feb 2016 20:04:51 -0500:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >Do you believe the the Penrose mechanism can also add a multiplier effect
> >to the extraction of
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:36 PM, wrote:
I'm always a bit suspicious of theories that make use of "negative energy".
>
It's what is needed to do negative work.
Eric
I don't believe that the vacuum does work.
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:36 PM, wrote:
>
> I'm always a bit suspicious of theories that make use of "negative energy".
>>
>
> It's what is needed to do
What, you don’t believe Casimir’s oxen pull?
From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:18 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DCE for SPP
I don't believe that the vacuum does work.
On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:15 PM, Eric Walker <eric.
This could be the sleeper paper of the year. Photon multiplication in an
incandescent cell - due to DCE/SPP would be a mechanism which changes the whole
ball game, if true. As they snidely quip on SNL: Who knew?
BTW - this M.O. explains how the Lugano results, as clarified by Bob Higgins to
"Dynamical Casimir effect for surface plasmon polaritons"
The title says it all, in terms of hitting on two of the significant new
catch-phrases which are cropping up in the glow-stick version of LENR, but
the paper (from Estonia) is behind a paywall.
Here is another paper which reinforces the previous one. (wrt DCE being
relevant to understanding one form of LENR - the glow-stick version)
"The dynamical Casimir effect generates entanglement" Felicetti, S et al
http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR14/Session/J28.11
"The existence of
: [Vo]:DCE for SPP
Here is another paper which reinforces the previous one... (wrt DCE being
relevant to understanding one form of LENR - the glow-stick version)
"The dynamical Casimir effect generates entanglement" Felicetti, S et al
http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR14/Sess
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 9 Feb 2016 12:56:48 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
>All those references to order of magnitude increases sound like over unity
>amplification of incoming photons.
The original number is 1E-6, i.e. 1 in a million. Hence even orders of magnitude
improvement doesn't even
Do you believe the the Penrose mechanism can also add a multiplier effect
to the extraction of energy from the vacuum in the dark mode SPP?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_process
On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:50 PM, wrote:
> In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 9 Feb
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1410/1410.4413.pdf
Dynamical Casimir effect for surface plasmon polaritons V. Hizhnyakov, A.
Loot, S.Ch.
Azizabadi Institute of Physics, University of Tartu, Ravila 14c, 50411
Tartu, Estonia E-mail: h...@fi.tartu.ee
Abstract.
Emission of photon pairs by an
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