[Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-dark-illusion-quantum-vacuum.html (PhysOrg.com) -- One of the biggest unsolved problems in astrophysics is that galaxies and galaxy clusters rotate faster than expected, given the amount of existing baryonic (normal) matter. The fast orbits require a larger

Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Ron Wormus
This is the same hypothesis that the Brightsen model of the nucleus makes and proposes that there is dark matter bound in some nuclei. Ron --On Monday, August 15, 2011 8:49 AM -0400 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-dark-illusion-quantum-vacuum.html

RE: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton I suggest a third way, without introducing dark matter and without modification of the law of gravity ... the key hypothesis is that matter and antimatter are gravitationally repulsive, and there are two gravitational charges: positive

Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The positron, being antimatter repels the electron gravitationally and at the same time attracts it electrostatically, so that there is a perfect balance! Hmmm, what are the odds of that? T

Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: The positron, being antimatter repels the electron gravitationally and at the same time attracts it electrostatically, so that there is a perfect balance! Hmmm, what are the odds of that? Following up: Also, considering the fact that electrostatic forces are probably a on an

Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Harry Veeder
The dense neutral background must have effectively no inertia, otherwise stable orbits would soon collapse.   Harry From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:09:24 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum

Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Jed Rothwell
I know little about cosmology, but is it not the case that: If dark matter exists the universe is more likely to end in a cosmic crunch, relatively soon. If it does not exist the universe will end with heat death much farther into the future. Just curious about this . . . Freeman Dyson

Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Jed sez: I know little about cosmology, but is it not the case that: If dark matter exists the universe is more likely to end in a cosmic crunch, relatively soon. If it does not exist the universe will end with heat death much farther into the future. Just curious about this . . .

RE: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum

2011-08-15 Thread Jones Beene
Steven, a logical error could be in assuming gravity and antigravity are perfectly symmetric in an inverse way, or that antigravity scales in a similar way as gravity all the way down. This may or may not be true, since the big (HUGE) hurdle to overcome first is to document that antimatter is