Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
When the lattice melts or vaporizes, the NAE stored in that portion of the lattice would according to Ed Storms theory would be removed from heat production, so the meltdown should be self limiting and terminat. In other words, when a proportion of the NAE is removed, then the LENR reaction should

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil wrote: Why Peter Gluck is correct about in situ NAE production and Ed Storms is > wrong. The LENR reaction has produced meltdown conditions where all lattice > based NAE storage was destroyed and yet the LENR reactor continued to melt > through lab tables and

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
Why Peter Gluck is correct about in situ NAE production and Ed Storms is wrong. The LENR reaction has produced meltdown conditions where all lattice based NAE storage was destroyed and yet the LENR reactor continued to melt through lab tables and concrete floors. ERGO, the LENR reaction can exist

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Axil Axil
bcook39923 <bobcook39...@gmail.com> > To: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 1:11 am > Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway > > Dave— > > I think the reaction time for the me

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread David Roberson
berson <dlrober...@aol.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Feb 10, 2017 1:11 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Dave— I think the reaction time for the mechanism you suggest if too long to explain the results of the “run-away” phenomen

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 11:41 PM, wrote: > Jones – > > > > Good questions and fair to midland conclusions. > http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/fair-to-middling.html Interesting; but, then again, I have always considered myself a cunning linguist. ;) Terry

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Jones Beene
Bob Higgins wrote: The problem with the phonon is that its wavelength is extremely short. The attenuation coefficient for waves, in general, is typically quoted in dB/wavelength; and nature abhors a too small value for such a number. Come to think of it, isn't it arguable that wavelength

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-10 Thread Brian Ahern
DavidMy e-mail is: ahern_br...@msn.com From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Brian, The Manelas device is an inter

RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread bobcook39923
momentum away from the remaining coherent system before disintegration occurs. Bob Cook From: David Roberson Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Brian, The Manelas device is an interesting subject that I

RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread bobcook39923
structure to come apart—vaporize—as indicated in the paragraph above. Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Axil Axil Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 1:35 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway LENR has been found to exist under laser

RE: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread bobcook39923
coherent systems and the amount of energy transformed during any single reaction. Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jones Beene Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 9:06 AM To: Vortex List Subject: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway In nuclear fission, the active

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread David Roberson
: Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 6:40 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway David, I like your admission that we are brainstorming. I had several mentors in the last 20 years. One of them wa

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
ascinated by LENR. The Manelas energy output > with ferromagnetic ferrite cores is also fascinating and not understood by > anyone yet. > > > -- > *From:* David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:12 PM >

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Brian Ahern
. From: David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 6:12 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway Bob, When you mention the attenuation coefficient for waves I think it should be point

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2017 3:37 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway The problem with the phonon is that its wavelength is ext

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Axil Axil
LENR has been found to exist under laser irradiation of gold nanoparticles in a colloidal suspension of thorium salts. The nanoparticles are far to small to support any lattice vibration, but they can support subwavelength EMF. Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au

Re: [Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Bob Higgins
The problem with the phonon is that its wavelength is extremely short. The attenuation coefficient for waves, in general, is typically quoted in dB/wavelength; and nature abhors a too small value for such a number. Hence you only have to propagate a limited number of wavelengths and the energy in

[Vo]:Defining the active particle of an LENR runaway

2017-02-09 Thread Jones Beene
In nuclear fission, the active particle which propagates the reaction is of course the neutron. The identity crisis that we have dealt with in LENR from the start becomes evident when we try to single out the active particle or pseudo-particle, which is the most basic agent that propagates and