Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-15 Thread Mike Carrell
y able in his understanding of science and humanity. Mike Carrell - Original Message ----- From: "Edmund Storms" To: Cc: "Edmund Storms" Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed It is truly amazing and

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, William Beaty mounted the barricade and roared out: > On Thu, 14 May 2009, Edmund Storms wrote: > > > It is truly amazing and scary to see how much power and influences > > the skeptics have. > > It's a "Witch-hunt atmosphere

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Edmund Storms mounted the barricade and roared out: > It is truly amazing and scary to see how much power and influences the > skeptics have. Most ordinary people could not cause the suppression > these people can accomplis

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Steven Krivit mounted the barricade and roared out: > Like you said, the idea of trying to suppress the video is myopic. These > people just don't get it. Of course they don't 'get it'. They're bureaucrats: mere human-shaped

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Edmund Storms wrote: > It is truly amazing and scary to see how much power and influences the > skeptics have. It's a "Witch-hunt atmosphere," full of self-nominated witchhunters, very similar to the red scare paranoia of the 1950s.Be careful or you'll be labeled as "susp

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Jed Rothwell wrote: > I guess it is safe to conclude that the video and other info will not > be returned. It is also safe to conclude that this is suppression Better use some care in calling it suppression, since in a debate the obvious countermove is to expose you as a crac

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread Edmund Storms
It is truly amazing and scary to see how much power and influences the skeptics have. Most ordinary people could not cause the suppression these people can accomplish. For example, Pons was hounded out of the Univ. of Utah, Bockris came close to losing his Distinguished Professorship posit

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread Steven Krivit
Jed, Two possibilities: a) suppression, fear of LENR b) paranoia, fear of litigation. I note the reference to APS in the first few seconds of the video. Like you said, the idea of trying to suppress the video is myopic. These people just don't get it. Events occur. Text is written. Talks a

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: Unless Duncan explicitly states that he wishes to be personally involved in on-going efforts to disseminate his lecture, it would seem both prudent and ethical to distance him from all efforts to get the revealing video posted. I gather Duncan is not so inclined to be personal

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread OrionWorks
>From Jed: > I guess it is safe to conclude that the video and other > info will not be returned. It is also safe to conclude that > this is suppression because they not only removed the video, > abstract and PowerPoint slides, they even removed the title! > It is ridiculous to claim that the titl

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
I guess it is safe to conclude that the video and other info will not be returned. It is also safe to conclude that this is suppression because they not only removed the video, abstract and PowerPoint slides, they even removed the title! It is ridiculous to claim that the title is "not availabl

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-12 Thread Steven Krivit
I look forward to a more detailed analysis of the Duncan video incident in a future installment of NET, even if it turns out to be nothing more than an incidental footnote. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks Not sure I'll get to that myself. If someone

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-12 Thread OrionWorks
>From Steven Krivit: > Vorts, > > I've done a cursory investigation of the disappearance of the Duncan video > from the U Missouri Web site. I'm not going to get into details here and > now. My initial conclusion is that someone -but not Duncan - made a decision > to suppress/censor the video and

Re: [Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Krivit wrote: Thanks to the first amendment, Fair Use, and some quick helpers who grabbed the content before it disappeared, New Energy Times will have the content back on the net momentarily. Great! Thanks. As soon as you let us know I will put a link to it. I think I will upload the

[Vo]:Duncan "Cold Fusion" Video Removed

2009-05-12 Thread Steven Krivit
Vorts, I've done a cursory investigation of the disappearance of the Duncan video from the U Missouri Web site. I'm not going to get into details here and now. My initial conclusion is that someone -but not Duncan - made a decision to suppress/censor the video and slide presentation. Thanks