[Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Generally speaking, in my experience, the value of a technical claim is inversely proportional to the level of secrecy applied to it. I am not being cynical. Well, not completely cynical. In technology, when you make an important claim you file a patent. A patent must reveal

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread Axil Axil
Michael McKubre said that the reason he believes completely in the reality of the Papp engine reaction for the last 14 years is that Papp ran a full demo of his engine in front of patent examiners to their total satisfaction using a dynamometer… it worked as advertised. On the strength of this

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Papp engine is the only LENR device that has ever been patented. What makes you think it is LENR? I guess in the broader sense it probably is, but I doubt it has anything to do with hydride cold fusion (the F-P effect). But, who knows?! Until it is

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:50 PM 8/30/2012, Axil Axil wrote: Michael McKubre said that the reason he believes completely in the reality of the Papp engine reaction for the last 14 years is that Papp ran a full demo of his engine in front of patent examiners to their total satisfaction using a dynamometer… it worked

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
I think the Papp engine is electric charge accumulation, magnetic alignment, compression and collapse followed by an instant energy burst. Same thing happening in the voids/cracks of the lattice each pop of DGT's spark plugs. I think we saw yesterday that TerraWatt Research LLC also has a patent

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread Axil Axil
Let’s use some Rothmen logic here. How can plasma be produced if the temperature of the engine is just warm to the touch? How can 500 HP be produced sustainably without the presence of huge external electrical feed that is easily detectable? Michael McKubre is a man of common sense; according to

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread Axil Axil
Correction: Rothmen logic should have been Jed Rothwell logic… as demonstrated in the touch test by an observer of a hot Rossi reactor to prove over unity and life after death during late stage of the demo conducted by Rossi just before the last public October demo/test conducted by/for the

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread David Roberson
Sounds like a pretty effective test. It is apparent that the Papp device, if real, is not a heat engine due to the cool touch. I suspect LENR activity working in conjunction with some form of electric motor behavior. The axial magnetic field would give the ions a twist in direction that

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread James Bowery
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: It is all the same effect aided by quantum level gravitational attraction finishing the collapse. I am going to continue pounding that thought into everyone's collective brains. Stewart http://wp.me/p26aeb-4

[Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread ChemE Stewart
Papp/rohners mentioned it starts overheating above 2800 rpm. If the effect releases a large spectrum of radiation/charged particles only a portion might get absorbed locally resulting in heat. The rest might pass right out of the device after also propelling the piston On Thursday, August 30,

Re: [Vo]:Important claims are patented or published as quickly as possible

2012-08-30 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
A patent is not the only way to protect an idea. In practice, trade secret law may be more important. This is particularly true when the idea to be protected is not the product itself, but the process used to produce it. Consider the high-K metal gate process used by Intel at the 45nm and 32nm