Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-23 Thread ChemE Stewart
James, Agreed. So far I have just been revising my document as I go instead of posting new announcements, etc. I am very new to blogging. I also cannot figure out how to automatically add a signature/link to my blog automatically to the bottom of my Gmail emails. I am boldfacing any changes to

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-23 Thread James Bowery
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, ChemE Stewart wrote: > I am thinking about a new newsgroup for Evaporative Matter Nuclear > Science. > To help increase the signal-to-noise ratio of your contributions to vortex-l I suggest you post here in two modes: 1) As a regular participant but with your si

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-23 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
Found this post in my outbox, it wasn't sent. At 06:46 PM 8/17/2012, Axil Axil wrote: The production of neutrons may well be avoidable if the reaction is properly designed. As a model, Rossi has been purifying his reaction for more than a year. My guess is that the use of Deuterium is condu

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
That paper certainly didn't cheer me up. Indeed it made me very sad. "Myonic fusion?" Yes, I know what they meant. The paper reads like it was written with Voice Recognition software, without editing, more or less off-the-cuff, by someone who knows a lot but is utterly disorganized. The n

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread pagnucco
Abd, Firstly, cheer up a bit. Way too much hostility. The proceedings paper is at: "Surface Effect for Gas Loading Micrograin Palladium for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions LENR" http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/STAFF/VISITING_FELLOWS&PROFESSORS/pdf/LENR%20Korea%20ProceedXX.pdf They sound quite confiden

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 01:27 PM 8/18/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Hello Akira, I can't see any "bad news". If I'm correct, Miley's team reports a much more robust reaction than previously seen, along with a variety of extremely anomalous transmutations. Where is the report? Miley's reports of transmutati

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's the final stage of his theory, which has a resonant requirement. The longest wavlength for a cavity with 1nm is 2nm or ~500eV. This is wavelength has a strong absorption in matter in general because it ressonates with the inner orbitals of atoms. So, it is a highly ionizing radiation which w

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
FHPE has no normal conditions only workable conditions. Generally, they either do not work or just work softly. But, sometimes wires and pieces of metal explodes for God knows why reasons or just bursts of more intense activity. Up to this result, IF that is correlated with cold fusion, I was not a

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:32 PM 8/17/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: Not really bad news. Ed Storms came up with a theory that fusion happen in cracks of the lattice. Summing that, with what I see in the slides, they are thinking that a BEC of D is forced to be fused by the fractures. So, LENR is a kind of variation of

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:17 PM 8/17/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: But that is sort of bad news too. People won't be able to have these devices at home. It seems that there are bursts of high activity 1000x above the high limit level is way too dangerous. What devices? Daniel, isn't that jumping to conclusions? The

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:11 PM 8/17/2012, Axil Axil wrote: The hot fusion people and the nuclear physicist crowd will not believe that LENR is real unless they see lots of neutrons; this is a good political type experiment. It hasn't worked before, why should it work now? The main cold fusion reaction, respons

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
Yes, this is why I say they are claiming. They do not show much (or anything meaningful at all) concerning what methods are being used, or Although, it is sort of interesting that these similar things are showing up. Maybe a generalized contamination from overlooked common sources to both experim

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
No need to swallow. If that were to be used as a heater, within a few years, where people sleep, the proximity would cause deadly effects, after a few years. Or, in any place where they would be stored together, like in a department store, where dozens of them would be together. It would not be ve

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:09 PM 8/17/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: It is interesting that they claim element generation up to lead. That also happened in defkalion's data. Check that out. People, please start to discriminate. This is the slide show:

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 06:03 PM 8/17/2012, Daniel Rocha wrote: 6.2*10^7 neutrons per 5 min means 200 thousand neutrons per second. If each one carries 1MeV, that means 3*10^-10^-8J. There's about 3*10^7s every year, which means about 1Joule of radiation emitted per year. According to wikipedia: " The

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-19 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 04:44 PM 8/17/2012, ChemE Stewart wrote: My singularity will rip matter apart in the near vacinity. Any neutrons that escape it will be very low momentum, since the singularities quantum gravity pull sucked all of the energy out of them. It also devours them. Stewart, this is embarrassin

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-18 Thread pagnucco
Hello Akira, I can't see any "bad news". If I'm correct, Miley's team reports a much more robust reaction than previously seen, along with a variety of extremely anomalous transmutations. Certainly, any fusion reaction will require enough energy to surmount high potential barriers between collid

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-18 Thread Eric Walker
On Aug 18, 2012, at 5:53, ChemE Stewart wrote: > Axil, I really don't think we are that far off. In both my theory and Miley > a cluster of ultra high density matter is shredding it's environment and > leaving a host of products. I think a black hole is somewhat different than a Bose-Einstein

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-18 Thread ChemE Stewart
Right, they made up a new state called "Inverted Rydberg State" that has ultra high density. Don't they really mean "collapsed"? Axil, I really don't think we are that far off. In both my theory and Miley a cluster of ultra high density matter is shredding it's environment and leaving a host o

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread pagnucco
Ruby, More important than whether there is a difference between "LENR" and "fractofusion" are the questions - - Have Miley, et al, produced more energy than other fractofusion results? - Can the effect be scaled up beyond what fractofusion attained to date? - Are the transmutations real and repro

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Harry Veeder
If the neutrons could be collimated they could be used in neutron scattering experiments. Harry On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:06 PM, wrote: > Well, Daniel > > If those neutrons are real, they would still be welcome news. > Hopefully, the reaction could be modulated to reduce emissions, or their > e

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
You asked what was happening to you... 2012/8/17 Ruby > On 8/17/12 4:59 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > > You are believing in all he says. He may only be partially right since > LENR could well have several different stages. So, he could be right up to > a point, but not right about everything. > >

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Ruby
On 8/17/12 4:59 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: You are believing in all he says. He may only be partially right since LENR could well have several different stages. So, he could be right up to a point, but not right about everything. I had hoped I was describing faithfully what *his* claims are. -

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
You are believing in all he says. He may only be partially right since LENR could well have several different stages. So, he could be right up to a point, but not right about everything. 2012/8/17 Ruby > > Holy moly, what's happening to me? > Ruby > > > > > > -- > Ruby Carat > > r...@coldfusi

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Ruby
On 8/17/12 4:32 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Not really bad news. Ed Storms came up with a theory that fusion happen in cracks of the lattice. Summing that, with what I see in the slides, they are thinking that a BEC of D is forced to be fused by the fractures. So, LENR is a kind of variation of fra

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
The production of neutrons may well be avoidable if the reaction is properly designed. As a model, Rossi has been purifying his reaction for more than a year. My guess is that the use of Deuterium is conducive to neutron production. If the deuterium ion enters into the nucleus of the substrate

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
Not really bad news. Ed Storms came up with a theory that fusion happen in cracks of the lattice. Summing that, with what I see in the slides, they are thinking that a BEC of D is forced to be fused by the fractures. So, LENR is a kind of variation of fractofusion. 2012/8/17 Akira Shirakawa > On

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-18 01:11, Axil Axil wrote: The hot fusion people and the nuclear physicist crowd will not believe that LENR is real unless they see lots of neutrons; this is a good political type experiment. I have to bring some potentially bad news. I've just been told that this Ti-D neutron claim

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
But that is sort of bad news too. People won't be able to have these devices at home. It seems that there are bursts of high activity 1000x above the high limit level is way too dangerous. 2012/8/17 Axil Axil > The hot fusion people and the nuclear physicist crowd will not believe > that LENR is

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
The hot fusion people and the nuclear physicist crowd will not believe that LENR is real unless they see lots of neutrons; this is a good political type experiment. Axil On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 7:06 PM, wrote: > Well, Daniel > > If those neutrons are real, they would still be welcome news. > H

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
It is interesting that they claim element generation up to lead. That also happened in defkalion's data. Check that out. 2012/8/17 > Well, Daniel > > If those neutrons are real, they would still be welcome news. > Hopefully, the reaction could be modulated to reduce emissions, or their > energie

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread pagnucco
Well, Daniel If those neutrons are real, they would still be welcome news. Hopefully, the reaction could be modulated to reduce emissions, or their energies. -- LP Daniel Rocha wrote; > 6.2*10^7 neutrons per 5 min means 200 thousand neutrons per second. If > each > one carries 1MeV, that means

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
rget to link it? > > I'd be interested in looking at this more closely. > > Jojo > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Axil Axil > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:27 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons with

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Daniel Rocha
6.2*10^7 neutrons per 5 min means 200 thousand neutrons per second. If each one carries 1MeV, that means 3*10^-10^-8J. There's about 3*10^7s every year, which means about 1Joule of radiation emitted per year. According to wikipedia: " The International Commission on Radiological Protection

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread pagnucco
Hello Akira, It's important that the results are reported to be reproducible. If they are correct, they are very complex multibody reactions, e.g., slide #12 - "Clusters of 156 deuterons (10pm diameter) in non-localized Bose-Einstein state react with Pd nucleus (or as inverted Rydberg state) fo

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Jojo Jaro
Axil, where's the paper? Did you forget to link it? I'd be interested in looking at this more closely. Jojo - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Jojo Jaro
44 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible Jojo, My singularity will rip matter apart in the near vacinity. Any neutrons that escape it will be very low momentum, since the singularities quantum gravity pull sucked all of the energy out of

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
It gets even better. Many of my most favored words are in the description.asfollows: *Clusters* of 156 deuterons (10pm diameter) in *non-localized Bose-Einstein* * *state react with Pd nucleus (or as *inverted Rydberg state*) for element production via *compound nucleus *element with A = 306 (or

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Axil Axil
I am pleased to draw your attention to this opinion from the experimenter. The presentation states: Based on solid experiment of neutron emission and LENR-element generation: hypothetical models: Reactions in 2 pm distance due to *Coulomb screening* by factor 13 (5 for hot plasmas). Coulomb scre

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
Jojo, My singularity will rip matter apart in the near vacinity. Any neutrons that escape it will be very low momentum, since the singularities quantum gravity pull sucked all of the energy out of them. It also devours them. I am thinking about a new newsgroup for Evaporative Matter Nuclear Sci

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-17 20:39, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Absolute confirmation of Nuclear Fusion from deuterated titanium using shock procedure - Mark Prelas: 62Million Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible I'm not a theoretician (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but isn't this *not* p

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread Jojo Jaro
#x27;m wrong on this. Jojo - Original Message - From: ChemE Stewart To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible Any upset to the thermodynamic or spatial eq

Re: [Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread ChemE Stewart
Any upset to the thermodynamic or spatial equilibrium of a micro singularity(collapsed matter), once formed, will trigger an instant response Once a singularity is present within matter, they take in matter and energy in and return radiation out. The collapse of matter and/or radiation can trigger

[Vo]:Miley, et al - 62M Neutrons within 5 minutes -- Fully reproducible

2012-08-17 Thread pagnucco
Pardon if I missed this in the deluge of recent postings ICCF-17 Presentation - " Surface Effect for Gas Loading Micrograin Palladium for Low Energy Nuclear Reactions LENR" - Heinrich Hora1, George H Miley, Mark Prelas, Kyu Jung Kim, Xiaoling Yang http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/STAFF/VISITING_FELLO