[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-29 Thread Michel Jullian
, 2008 5:35 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:33:07 +0200: Hi, Robin, Although it seems to make sense, something doesn't fit in your center of mass frame

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-29 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:28:56 +0200: Hi, [snip] But thermal energy is actual kinetic energy isn't it, so it doesn't resolve the dilemma. There is no dilemma to resolve. Infinite times a short (but finite) period of time would be infinite... no, this is

[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-29 Thread Michel Jullian
it, so you can't do proper physics in that frame. Michel - Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-29 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:37:48 +0200: Hi, [snip] Forgive my obstinacy Robin, but admitting the proper frame should be the CMF, shouldn't this be the CMF of all particles involved, i.e. including those of the Pd anvil? After all, the target is not really D, but

[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-29 Thread Michel Jullian
in an accelerated frame, so COE isn't verified. Michel - Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-29 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:57:05 +0200: Hi, [snip] But the moment right before dislodgement, when the deuteron pair experiences considerable deceleration, is precisely when we would expect fusion isn't it? So I still believe we must use the CMF of the whole

[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-27 Thread Michel Jullian
- Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 11:51 PM Indeed momentum p is the denominator of the De Broglie wavelength h/p, my mistake. So in fact the more immobile the target deuteron, the less close the incident

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:05:33 +0200: Hi, [snip] Indeed two immobile d's wouldn't attempt much I don't think, but isn't it ok if _one_ d in the pair, namely the incident one, makes the attempt, as in the Desorbing vs Incident Excess Surface Electron Catalyzed

[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-27 Thread Michel Jullian
, any enlightening welcome. Michel - Original Message - From: Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:13 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF In reply

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-27 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Mon, 28 Apr 2008 01:33:07 +0200: Hi, Robin, Although it seems to make sense, something doesn't fit in your center of mass frame of reference and therefore equal De Broglie wavelengths (DBW) paradigm: in that frame, as you say, when the particles are

[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge...

2008-04-26 Thread Michel Jullian
PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:09:25 +0200: Hi, [snip] No it wouldn't be, but even with my

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-26 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:36:24 +0200: Hi, [snip] Hi Robin, many thanks for your corrections. Indeed momentum p is the denominator of the De Broglie wavelength h/p, my mistake. So in fact the more immobile the target deuteron, the less close the incident

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-26 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:51:39 +1000: BTW, hs = h_stripe = h/(2*Pi) epsilon = permittivity of the vacuum Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... - T.GIF

2008-04-26 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Sun, 27 Apr 2008 07:51:39 +1000: Hi, BTW2, ce = unit charge (i.e. absolute value of electron or proton charge). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk The shrub is a plant.

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge...

2008-04-25 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Michel Jullian's message of Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:09:25 +0200: Hi, [snip] No it wouldn't be, but even with my limited QM skills, I know that fortunately you don't have to get that close for nuclear fusion. Nucleus is fm scale (10^-15 m), but its De Broglie wavelength (roughly the

[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge...

2008-04-24 Thread Michel Jullian
there at the same time... guess what can happen? ;-) Michel - Original Message - From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge

[Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge...

2008-04-21 Thread Michel Jullian
@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... Even within classical physics the existence of a point charge is problematic. (as well as point masses.) Do you mean charge density at a point? Harry

Re: [Vo]:Re: HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge...

2008-04-21 Thread Harry Veeder
20, 2008 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:HUP-spread-out electron feels (and thus Coulomb-screens?) like a point charge... Even within classical physics the existence of a point charge is problematic. (as well as point masses.) Do you mean charge density at a point? Harry On 20/4/2008 6:49