Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-10-11 Thread Horace Heffner
I am way behind on reading. I hope this is not redundant. It appears the same pump is being used 6 Oct 2011 as in all the prior tests. See: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3284823.ece I wonder what the 4 pumps are for? Eventually pumping water into the heat

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-10-11 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 11.10.2011 21:12, schrieb Horace Heffner: I wonder how a pump with a maximum flow rate of 12 liters/hr could pump 15 liters/hr? Quite often values given in datasheets are not hard limits. Possibly it can do this, but is not specified for this. This would mean it cannot reach the specified

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Report of 28 april: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3166569.ece/BINARY/Report+test+of+E-cat+28+April+2011.pdf As you can hear, the stroke frequency is around 32 strokes/minute, which equals to a maximum flow of 3.8 liters/h (= 12.1 *

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-25 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Rothwell Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:44 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Report of 28 april: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3166569.ece/BINARY/Report+test+of+E-cat+28+April+2011.pdf As you

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-25 Thread Daniel Rocha
How do you know that 1 click = 1 pump?

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-25 Thread Jouni Valkonen
On Aug 25, 2011 5:45 PM, Mattia Rizzi wrote: In krivit’s video Rossi said that water flow was 7 kg/h. Rossi is lying. This is obvious. But question is why Rossi did lie in such a trivial way that everyone can see it? Lie was so obvious, that it cannot be because Rossi wanted to mislead

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-25 Thread Mattia Rizzi
to 3liter/h (but it can be lower since volume is adjustable). From: Daniel Rocha Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 7:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates How do you know that 1 click = 1 pump?

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I believe I saw a longer one somewhere. Will ask Lewan. I stand corrected. Lewan said he has no videos of steam longer than this. Here is his entire response, with permission: Jed, I only observed the tube held upright once and did not study it carefully. There did come some water

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
:56 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates Mattia Rizzi wrote: And the water flow can’t be 7 liter/h since the pump is pumping every 2.5-3 seconds, so the true water flow is lower than 3 liter/h LMI P18 pump has a maximum flow of 12 l/h at 100 strikes

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
How do you know that 1 stroke = 1 click?

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Again, if you write “7 l/h flow” you are talking about the test done in june, with Krivit. In june, there wan’t a weight scale . . . That is not clear. There may have been one. In any case, this same argument about how the pump works has been

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
“Rossi said”, the noise from the pump is inconsistent with the declared flow. I SEE A PATTERN. Manuals are more a work of imagination Are you kidding? There are specifications from LMI! From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:36 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. There is a problem: in Lewan’s test, where the flow was accurately measured by an independent observer (Lewan), the noise from the pump is consistent with the water flow written inside the report. Which report by Lewan do you refer to? What

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
as specification. From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:33 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. There is a problem: in Lewan’s test, where the flow was accurately measured

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-23 Thread Mattia Rizzi
In krivit’s video the bucket is removed for around 30seconds, not few minutes. From 11:10 to 11:20 and from 11:26 to 11:46 (SEE KRIVIT’S VIDEO) And the water flow can’t be 7 liter/h since the pump is pumping every 2.5-3 seconds, so the true water flow is lower than 3 liter/h LMI P18 pump has a

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi wrote: In krivit’s video the bucket is removed for around 30seconds, not few minutes. From 11:10 to 11:20 and from 11:26 to 11:46 (SEE KRIVIT’S VIDEO) That is correct, but I saw a longer video from Lewan. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi wrote: And the water flow can’t be 7 liter/h since the pump is pumping every 2.5-3 seconds, so the true water flow is lower than 3 liter/h LMI P18 pump has a maximum flow of 12 l/h at 100 strikes/minutes. With 25 strikes/minute is (maximum) 3 l/h. It can be lower than 3 liter/h.

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-23 Thread Mattia Rizzi
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates Mattia Rizzi wrote: In krivit’s video the bucket is removed for around 30seconds, not few minutes. From 11:10 to 11:20 and from 11:26 to 11:46 (SEE KRIVIT’S VIDEO) That is correct, but I saw a longer video from Lewan

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi wrote: In this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVEBCN6D13w ? (lewan in april) Again, you can see it (removed from water) at 3:17 to 3:37, 20 seconds. And in this video you can hear that there is some (liquid water) since is very noisy. I believe I saw a longer one