Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

Rossi is the latest LENR guy who has $signs in his eyes. Patterson was a solid example of that. I like the hope that MFMP offers to circumvent that problem. As soon as they verify a LENR experiment that many who have the means can do in our garages, the cat is out of the bag. MIT Professor

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… I am still trying to convince the group to take another crack at it, with a more sophisticated radiation measurement that requires some building and a small amount of funding. ***That means you have not been pursuing it. It's been 4 years and basically no mention on the MFMP blog. Even if

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On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:51 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > Yup, this is just the first battle in the patent wars. It will last > decades until some billionaire steps in. > Oligarchic 'Capitalism' (parasitism) does not HAVE decades. But maybe none of the rest of us do,

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On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > Celani detected gamma rays when Rossi's reactor got started, and Rossi > came down hard on him for bringing a Geiger counter. So yes, there was a > Nuclear event occuring in Rossi's apparatus for at least that short

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e >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> >> To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 6:20 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled >> >> Kevin O'Malley <

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d compared to me. > > - Jed > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> > To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 5:20 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled > > Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.c

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not contributed anything to this field compared to me. - Jed -Original Message- From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri, Jul 7, 2017 5:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled Axil Axil <janap...@g

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Axil Axil wrote: As produced by IH, the spin, astroturfing and propaganda that LENR has seen > is just a foretaste of the effort that will be put forward by the > oil/gas/coal/wind/solar industries when LENR goes public. > Axil: You said that he has not read the Penon

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e. So > much hope dashed! > > Dave > > > > -Original Message- > From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> > To: Vortex <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 6:20 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled > >

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t; Sent: Wed, Jul 5, 2017 6:20 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote: If Rossi has managed to be the great magician that his detractors claim, his next set of investors might think about bringing a thermometer to the test

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d a small amount of funding. > > > > Mark Jurich > > > > *From:* Kevin O'Malley [mailto:kevmol...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2017 7:57 PM > *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled > >

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com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled Frustratingly, they never pursued the Gamma ray thing. They just dropped it without explanation. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>> wrote: A gamma ray burst was

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Status Quo Ante Bellum, as I predicted. It is a mystery why IH didn't accept this offer a long time ago. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > The judge issued an "order of dismissal." It says "this matter is > dismissed with prejudice," "all parties

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Frustratingly, they never pursued the Gamma ray thing. They just dropped it without explanation. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:43 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > A gamma ray burst was detected in a MFMP experiment just before excess > heat began. So yes, a nuclear event occurred in the

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The judge issued an "order of dismissal." It says "this matter is dismissed with prejudice," "all parties shall bear their own fees and costs" and "all pending motions are denied as moot." This is Item 333, here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzKtdce19-wyb1RxOTF6c2NtZkk

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A gamma ray burst was detected in a MFMP experiment just before excess heat began. So yes, a nuclear event occurred in the MFMP's apparatus for at least that short time. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > Celani detected gamma rays when Rossi's reactor

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Celani detected gamma rays when Rossi's reactor got started, and Rossi came down hard on him for bringing a Geiger counter. So yes, there was a Nuclear event occuring in Rossi's apparatus for at least that short time. On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Che wrote: >

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In a fully open source project (such as some of the software development I am involved with) I assume the patent trolls are not able to jump in on the stuff that is published. I assume the danger is that they take the open source info and patent some/all of the as yet unpublished extensions,

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Che wrote People here sneer at the likes of the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project.. but say what you will: its very OPEN [Source] nature is what *will* at least keep it out of the grubby clutches of moneyed-interests. Not so - no one here that I am aware of - sneers at MFMP. Or if they do

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Che wrote: > Was there, or was there not, cold fusion occurring, in Rossi's apparatus? > At any time? > Probably not, but we cannot be sure. There are some positive reports such as: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/LeviGindication.pdf Unfortunately, this was followed

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Mary Yugo said he was contacted by investors looking to verify Rossi. He told them what to test for, and Rossi never had anything to do with them. The only way Rossi is going to find an investor now is to have the darned thing tested with true independence, like an investor bringing you along.

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On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > I with the crook will be prevented to be a nuisance again... > whoever you think it is (I have an opinion). > I truly doubt matters are that simple. Was there, or was there not, cold fusion occurring, in Rossi's

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On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > I think that, because things were kept in secret, it will keep going with, > perhaps, more steam (pun intended, LOL!!!). > Secrecy -- the utter bane of scientific research AND democracy -- is wholly a factor in all

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Kevin O'Malley wrote: If Rossi has managed to be the great magician that his detractors claim, > his next set of investors might think about bringing a thermometer to the > test. > No can do. He invited me to a test. I said I would bring a thermometer. * He told me I would

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lt;danieldi...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 5, 2017 1:02 PM > *To:* John Milstone > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled > > I think that, because things were kept in secret, it will keep going with, > perhaps, more steam (pun intended, LOL!!!). &g

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Abd reports that Darden was the only one who wasn't smiling. He probably had bigger legal fees. On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Abd reports the trial was settled. Or called off. Withdrawn. I do not know > what this means in legal terms. See: > >

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Che wrote: > My take on the major factor which led to the withdrawal of claims is that >> Rossi's attorney finally realized that he could not ethically put Rossi on >> the stand and let Rossi testify to those details which were in the >> deposition but which were so

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Brian Ahern wrote: > I think LENR has been damaged grievously. > I think so too. I hope I.H. can get back into the game. > Rossi will probably highlight the Quark X. All his followers should invest > immediately before the rush! > I gather he is already lining up new

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Note that Abd revised & expanded his blog entry. Here is my take. This is what I wrote at LENR Forum: "Thank goodness. I wish Rossi had gotten his comeuppance publicly, but more than that I dreaded the possibility that he might win. I wish they had settled long ago. What a terrible waste of

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ct: Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled I think that, because things were kept in secret, it will keep going with, perhaps, more steam (pun intended, LOL!!!). 2017-07-05 13:55 GMT-03:00 Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com<mailto:alain.sep...@gmail.com>>: I with the crook

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I think that, because things were kept in secret, it will keep going with, perhaps, more steam (pun intended, LOL!!!). 2017-07-05 13:55 GMT-03:00 Alain Sepeda : > I with the crook will be prevented to be a nuisance again... > whoever you think it is (I have an opinion). >

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I with the crook will be prevented to be a nuisance again... whoever you think it is (I have an opinion). 2017-07-05 18:50 GMT+02:00 Daniel Rocha : > So much drama for nothing... >

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So much drama for nothing...

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On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Jones Beene wrote: > Everyone will have an opinion, but the details are not public. I suspect > that some of the details will seep out over time. > > My take on the major factor which led to the withdrawal of claims is that > Rossi's attorney

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Everyone will have an opinion, but the details are not public. I suspect that some of the details will seep out over time. My take on the major factor which led to the withdrawal of claims is that Rossi's attorney finally realized that he could not ethically put Rossi on the stand and let

[Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

Abd reports the trial was settled. Or called off. Withdrawn. I do not know what this means in legal terms. See: http://coldfusioncommunity.net/ RvD settled! All claims and counterclaims withdrawn. Jury dismissed. Agreement, if any, was private. Full details, such as I have, when I get home.

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