RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, I have had same suspicion due to her arrival relative to timeline. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:22 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms Mary,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Axil,     I have had same suspicion due to her arrival relative to timeline. She's been skepticizing for several years now. I first saw her on the Steorn forum. I told her how to join Vortex; so,

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Roarty, Francis X
T, Ok - fair enough explanation for her ETA, I don't really have issue with her skepticism relative to Rossi - there is plenty of reason for that. I am waiting instead on an impact from these recent reports of transmuted elements and reports of inverted temp coefficients of Ni - Cu alloys. I

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
I have to say, take a look at: http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=483page=1#Item_0 The username maryyugo was banned from Steorn before December 2009. Sorry, but she's been around the block a few times; Quite loudly. Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:18:28 -0500 Subject:

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: I have to say, take a look at: http://www.moletrap.co.uk/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=483page=1#Item_0 The username maryyugo was banned from Steorn before December 2009. Sorry, but she's been around the

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Robert Leguillon
I was just showing that, after a short Google search, it is quite evident that the maryyugo persona is not, and I quote: DOD shill assigned by the DOD to put the Vortex community off the scent, discourage the development and promulgation of the real story of the E-Cat, Rossi and Defkalion,

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: My statement that, Sorry, but she's been around the block a few times.. was merely to state that maryyugo's presence is not evidence of a DOD coverup, no matter how much some people may want there to be one.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Terry Blanton
BTW, MY should be awake and online soon. It will be interesting to see what she has to say. T

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
One of the more extravagant and incredible (on any basis) claims made by Rossi on his blog is that he is tooling up to manufacture a million E-cats during calendar year 2012. Comments on the moletrap forum noted that: A million ECats. National Instruments stock must be going up, then. I'd like

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Daniel Rocha
He didn't give a date for 1 million e-cats :) He just says he is working towards that! 2012/1/6 Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com One of the more extravagant and incredible (on any basis) claims made by Rossi on his blog is that he is tooling up to manufacture a million E-cats during calendar

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Terry sez: BTW, MY should be awake and online soon. It will be interesting to see what she has to say. My only contact with MY these days is through indirect exposure. There has been a lot of that lately. Robert's Google search was informative. It ought to put to rest imaginative scenarios

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-01-05 18:38, Robert Leguillon wrote: It seems that Rossi may have reaped the benefits associated with promises of independent university testing, but that delivery of this may never occur. Sterling D. Allan of PESN will conduct a live interview with him on January 14th with user

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:16 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: If in subsequent years Rossi eCats actually DO start rolling off the shelves of stores like Home Depot I suspect MY will soon start searching around for another group (preferably linked to a

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-01-05 18:38, Robert Leguillon wrote: It seems that Rossi may have reaped the benefits associated with promises of independent university testing, but that delivery of this may never occur. Sterling D.

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
Rossi seems to have trouble even keeping track of what he writes on his own blog. Here, the device has an output of 5 kW net: 1. Andrea Rossi January 6th, 2012 at 12:10 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=563cpage=10#comment-165106 Mr ” Tom Jones”: Since you used (a

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo wrote: I suggest they start by asking him why he and Focardi are freezing their buns off in a room in which a running fusion reactor is present, supposedly making 10 to 15 kW of thermal energy. That reactor produced 5 to 8 kW, not 15 kW. It was in a large, drafty room. 8 kW =

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Kerosene heaters are really dangerous, by the way. Picturesque but dangerous. Especially in houses with paper walls. T

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: I suggest they start by asking him why he and Focardi are freezing their buns off in a room in which a running fusion reactor is present, supposedly making 10 to 15 kW of thermal energy. That

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mary Yugo
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo wrote: It's not a barn, it's a small room. Where is this photo? The photo I have is in a warehouse sized room. I linked the photo. I think it's the same location that Krivit described -- a small room

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Larger images of the room with Focardi and Rossi are here (LOL!): http://www.moletrap.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rossicaptions This is sort of a trivial matter and can't be settled for sure without cooperation from Rossi or Levi . . . The heat from that

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Running hot water through the dishwasher and down the drain in the kitchen does not heat the kitchen much. It triggers the water heater to supply 12 kW for a while, so that much heat is going through the system. Actually, it is probably more than 12 kW. A U.S.-style tank water

RE: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-06 Thread Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
And it would become unbearably humid inside, so why hassle with it? From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 1:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Jed

[Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Leguillon
About the University of Bologna deadline, I posted to journal-of-nuclear-physics last night, asking Rossi about the pending deadline. The post was awaiting moderation; as it doesn't appear to have passed moderation, I'll add it here for posterity: Robert L. Your comment is awaiting

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
Meanwhile, Defkalion promises independent testing. When? Oh... soon! http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=831

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Meanwhile, Defkalion promises independent testing. When? Oh... soon! They do not promise it. They hope to have it. They are a privately held business. They do not owe the public anything. They do not need to make any promises or commitments to the public,

RE: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Robert Leguillon
I'm much less apt to dismiss Defkalion out-of-hand. It's partly just an objective evaluation of what limited information we have of the organization. I'll happily grant them a bit of time before real skepticism sets in, mostly based on Jed's claim that a competent observer has done a site

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Mary Yugo
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: Meanwhile, Defkalion promises independent testing. When? Oh... soon! They do not promise it. They hope to have it. They are a privately held business. They do not owe the

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: What concept is that, exactly? That someone can continue to make huge claims, present no or insufficient evidence for an entire year and then expect some sort of credibility or respect? Some people respect them and give them credibility. Others do not.

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Axil Axil
Mary, you do not have the current Rossi inter-personal and political dynamics down correctly or even worse maybe you do. As I see things, Rossi never wanted to reveal the details of his work, but Levi through an appeal to friendship forced Rossi to be more open to revealing information. His need

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: As I see things, Rossi never wanted to reveal the details of his work, but Levi through an appeal to friendship forced Rossi to be more open to revealing information. It was Focardi, not Levi. I think Rossi wanted to reveal some of his work, to some

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: With Vortex as the premier LENR web information site, this is why I think you are actually an air force major with the appropriate background assigned here to hound this web site, to spread disinformation about the E-Cat, and

Re: [Vo]:Testing at University of Bologna - The Deadline Looms

2012-01-05 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: What concept is that, exactly?  That someone can continue to make huge claims, present no or insufficient evidence for an entire year and then expect some sort of credibility or