Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-20 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote: But if you have the public key, you can run the image through decompression software and get a message out. Obviously the private key is what is needed here. Decompression is being used broadly. Eric

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-20 Thread David Roberson
to think with an open mind toward the future. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 10:38 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:10 AM, David Roberson dlrober

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-20 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From David, ... Further, they might conclude that finding this form of communications is the simplest test of intelligence which would warrant further contact Careful what you wish for. Speciously Packaged Alien Messages, aka: SPAM Especially during the election season. Who represents us?

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps they're using quantum cryptography with an enormously large key strength. With sufficiently advanced encryption, we could mistake the signal for white noise. Just to elaborate -- you would need to do more than

RE: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
From: Eric Walker [mailto:eric.wal...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 11:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps they're using quantum cryptography

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Terry Blanton
These theories are all well and good; but, there are much greater possibilities regarding the evolution of sentience. If you are unfamiliar with Childhood's End, I would highly recommend a reading. There are many who believe the hive mind is more of the rule than the exception. It certainly

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Michele Comitini
2012/6/19 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com: Maybe we are the exception using EM waves to communicate.  Maybe most nascent sentience uses quantum entanglement for communication. I agree. We are using EM to communicate since 200yrs only considering the telegraph. Could be that in 100 years

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread David Roberson
. This is all the more reason for us to adequately fund new unknown energy sources. Dave -Original Message- From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 2:05 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Eric

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread David Roberson
: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 9:43 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis These theories are all well and good; but, there are much greater ossibilities regarding the evolution of sentience. If you are nfamiliar with Childhood's End, I would highly recommend a reading. There are many who believe

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Harry Veeder
'(joking of course).  I hope that we are of free will and have at least a small say as to how our lives are to proceed. Dave -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2012 9:43 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Transcension

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Perhaps we, or more specifically, our gene pool, is considered something akin to a game preserve by many species out yonder. Future selves (containers?) occasionally coming back to sample the indigenous DNA of their ancient ancestors. Such a hypothesis would certainly make more sense as compared

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Eric wrote: “With sufficiently advanced encryption, we could mistake the signal for white noise.” ** ** Sounds way too close to A.C.C’s third law which states: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: There are many who believe the hive mind is more of the rule than the exception. It certainly appears to be the case in nature. The flight of birds such as in the beginning of Take Shelter or this vid: My guess is that there is some prosaic method

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:05 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: ** Sounds way too close to A.C.C’s third law which states: “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Sounds right. I'm sure I subconsciously picked up on that concept but

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:10 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: A thought just occurred to me. Maybe the fact that we have not discovered radio signals from any of these aliens is a strong suggestion that there is an alternate superior method of communication that we will discover

[Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-18 Thread Terry Blanton
Take that, Fermi: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576511003304 T

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: A. C. Clarke, Childhood's End. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: See: A. C. Clarke, Childhood's End. You once asked ACC (for me) what was his inspiration for CE and he said to read 3010. I have, but, do not still find the answer. CE was one of my favorite works by ACC. I always sort

Re: [Vo]:Transcension Hypothesis

2012-06-18 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Take that, Fermi: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0094576511003304 T Assume that the odds that there are sentient beings on other planets is nonzero, and that, further, this proposition understates