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At CMNS Akito Takahashi has published a detailed report- execellent- about the ACS Conference. Unfortunately Melvin Miles's paper is presented very shortly and only qualitative results are given - 6/6 successful heat excess experiments. Thus we are not able to know if it was a breakthrough in the

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At 01:53 PM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: First of all- thank you! I also think that somewhere we have to get rid of palladium and replace it with something cheaper and more abundent, And is a provocative and/or nasty assertion that now we still do not understnd the science? We don't understan

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At 01:53 PM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: First of all- thank you! I also think that somewhere we have to get rid of palladium and replace it with something cheaper and more abundent, And is a provocative and/or nasty assertion that now we still do not understnd the science? We don't understan

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On Mar 27, 2010, at 11:25 AM, Taylor J. Smith wrote: Is it possible to have room temperature and low pressure plasma cold fusion reactions? If the results of Claytor et al. are considered cold fusion, then the answer is probably yes. Claytor used a low pressure gas regime, involving charg

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At 04:42 PM 3/26/2010, Horace Heffner wrote: We should not shrink from looking in the mirror! We have only begun to scratch the surface of a very large parameter space. Huge, truly enormous parameter space. Scary parameter space, compared to the much simpler space of plasma fusion. Messy, har

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Jones wrote on 3-27-10: ... there is no need for a liquid if we can dispense with electrolysis. IMHO this is probably a significant way in which LENR is maturing ... -- gas phase. Why not? There is little advantage to electrolysis as it actually hinders loading. The ~4:1 loading ratio of Arata

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Dear Abd, Thank you! I will quote Birtukan as soon as I am writing about some positive concept- not as now. I perfectly understand your love and happiness given by your daughters. It is wonderful to help them and to see how brave and nice they are. I had a very tragical history with my son Robert

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At 04:07 PM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: Dear Abd, I am starting the weekend rush to write my great editorial for the issue no 396 of my wekly newsletter Info Kappa ( I am working for an American Romanian ISP UPC Romania) The subject is "primitive" and I will use much of the book "Caveman Log

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On Mar 26, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: You are perfectly right. The problem is that this not so friendly, moderately rich, Planet has much less palladium, we will be forced to import some thousands tonnes from other places. By the way, if you consult the news, you'll see that there

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Dear Abd, I am starting the weekend rush to write my great editorial for the issue no 396 of my wekly newsletter Info Kappa ( I am working for an American Romanian ISP UPC Romania) The subject is "primitive" and I will use much of the book "Caveman Logic" But other things too. By the way, I like v

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Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote: It's like a lot of things in this field, there are many, many loose ends, caused by people varying the hell out of what they were doing, hoping to get lucky. That is exactly what they were doing. And what's worse -- far worse! -- is that they were not doing the var

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At 11:27 AM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: Yes, nanotechnology surely will have a great role. And electrolysis is -in this case a generator of technological nightmares, we have to get rid of it. Definitely messy. I wouldn't rule it out, though. But gas phase seems more likely. I'm not working

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First of all- thank you! I also think that somewhere we have to get rid of palladium and replace it with something cheaper and more abundent, And is a provocative and/or nasty assertion that now we still do not understnd the science? Should we repeat the 2005 survey? It seems that the Ni based Pia

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At 10:00 AM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: Thank you for calling CF a surface effect, perhaps we have to add that it is a local effect, only separate point like active sites generate the heat. Unfortunately micron thin layers evaoprate immediately- can you imagine how much is

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At 09:06 AM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, Pd overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you calculate the surface temperature of the metal at a heat release of 100 Watts per square centimenter? Doesn't that depend on the h

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You are perfectly right. The problem is that this not so friendly, moderately rich, Planet has much less palladium, we will be forced to import some thousands tonnes from other places. By the way, if you consult the news, you'll see that there are great problems in the electronic industry because o

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At 06:00 AM 3/26/2010, Peter Gluck wrote: He concludes: the CF system can contribute but cannot conquer the market of energy. This is indeed my seat-of-the-pants conclusion as to the palladium approach, unless the reaction rate can be greatly increased. At current prices I did a detailed calc

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He's gonna need more Pd. In 2008, the world consumption of all types of power averaged 1.504 x 10^13 W. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption At 2.4 x 10^-3 g/W, he would need 3.61 x 10^10 g of Pd (plus about 2% growth per year) or about 36,000 metric tonnes. And h

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Yes, nanotechnology surely will have a great role. And electrolysis is -in this case a generator of technological nightmares, we have to get rid of it. A gas phase system is a must, heat generated <100 deg Celsius is low quality energy, >180-200 deg Celsius is OK, you can convert it in electricity

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Imagine a 2kWh heater with a surface of 20 sq.cm. Quite intense... On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Michel Jullian wrote: > Why would a micron thin layer evaporate if it's plated on a heat > conducting metal ?? 100W/cm2 is not that much really, it's roughly > what the tip of my soldering iron dis

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From: Peter Gluck * And can you tell me a single real example of heat excess obtained with such layers in the Pd/D2O system? No . but . the Arata-Zhang system uses nanometer sized spheres of Ni-Pd alloy, embedded in zirconia. It is stable over extended periods in a heated deuterium gas. T

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Why would a micron thin layer evaporate if it's plated on a heat conducting metal ?? 100W/cm2 is not that much really, it's roughly what the tip of my soldering iron dissipates happily, even though it's in air rather than in water. An example of a thin Pd layer that works? I coudn't even give you

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Thank you for calling CF a surface effect, perhaps we have to add that it is a local effect, only separate point like active sites generate the heat. Unfortunately micron thin layers evaoprate immediately- can you imagine how much is 100W.sq.cm? And can you tell me a single* real example of heat ex

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Hi, Peter-in-the-grave :) Since CF is a surface effect, how about plating just a few microns of Pd onto some cheaper metal? 2010/3/26 Peter Gluck : > Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, Pd > overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you calculate the surface > t

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Nice to hear from you, Terry. The trouble is that 0.1 mm is too thin, Pd overheats, melts- losses, problems etc. Can you calculate the surface temperature of the metal at a heat release of 100 Watts per square centimenter? On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > A bit of realistic

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On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: Can you help him? Thanks! Sure. Make it 0.1 mm thick and double the surface area. T

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A bit of realistic sci-fi.. January 6, 2028- my grandson who was educated in the spirit of new energy, cold fusion is wonderful - has succeeded to work out the perfectly reproducible energy generating method. In the frame of a Pd - D2O system. He is a respected citizen and as it is almost compulso