that one might expect 50 milliseconds or more
would elapse before current comes out the bottom of the pan.
Michel
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From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Michel Jullian wrote:
1/ Is there any possibility that the dimple you inferred from your laser
reflection could in fact be a (field-generated) goose pimple?
Convex pimples make dark spots in the light reflected from the water
surface to a screen, while concave depressions
On Jun 5, 2007, at 12:02 PM, William Beaty wrote:
It is possible that all these phenomena are created by
Electrospray, where
a droplet clinging to a charged surface begins emitting a series of
microscopic charged droplets. An older form of ink-jet printer
was based
on this type of
)= 77*10^3 V/m,
so the mobility would be 2.6/77*10^3 = 3.4*10^-5 m/s per V/m which would be ~ 6
times less mobile than air ions.
Michel
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From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents
A definitive test for thread vs drops would be the ability to
instantly transmit an AC signal or fast pulse chain along the
thread. You have already determined the thread velocity to be 5 to
10 MPH. It would take a couple isolation transformers T1 and T2, one
with primary in series with
A definitive test for thread vs drops would be the ability to
instantly transmit an AC signal or fast pulse chain along the
thread. You have already determined the thread velocity to be 5 to
10 MPH. It would take a couple isolation transformers T1 and T2, one
with primary in series with
between
the armatures.
Michel
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From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
A definitive test for thread vs drops would be the ability to
instantly transmit
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From: William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Michel Jullian wrote:
1/ Is there any possibility that the dimple you inferred from your
.
Regards,
Horace Heffner
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From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
A definitive test for thread vs drops would be the ability to
instantly transmit
I also think the bends must be important.
Michel
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From: Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
On Jun 2, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Kyle R. Mcallister wrote
Hi Bill,
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From: William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
About to go on some travels, will get some incense while I
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Horace Heffner wrote:
It seems to me the ion stream momentum *eventually* has to be
converted into broad air momentum - provided the opposed electrode is
far enough away.
But far enough is typically several feet! For 10KV, the filaments
remain coherent over a couple of
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Michel Jullian wrote:
Only they are not filamentary in the monopolar drift area (most of their
path),
Says who?
I hope you're not suggesting that, since theory predicts that they spread
around, therefore they DO spread around, and no experimental verification
is needed?
: William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Michel Jullian wrote:
Only they are not filamentary in the monopolar drift area (most of their
path),
Says who?
I hope
But... there would be no ion flows near the rotor if the pingpong balls
were truely insulating. A cloud of opposite ions would just gather around
the pingpong balls, then all air flows (ion flows) would stop. So I bet
the pingpong balls are terrible insulators, and electrons are going
through
William Beaty wrote:
But... there would be no ion flows near the rotor if the pingpong balls
were truely insulating. A cloud of opposite ions would just gather around
the pingpong balls, then all air flows (ion flows) would stop. So I bet
the pingpong balls are terrible insulators, and
2:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ion currents in pingpong balls
William Beaty wrote:
But... there would be no ion flows near the rotor if the pingpong balls
were truely insulating. A cloud of opposite ions would just gather around
the pingpong balls, then all air flows (ion flows) would stop. So
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
About to go on some travels, will get some incense while I am out,
preferably something that smells nice and not like a house of ill repute. :)
Y'know, I think incense smoke might give misleading results. Here's a
weird phenomenon:
Aim a HV
On Jun 2, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
William Beaty wrote:
But... there would be no ion flows near the rotor if the pingpong
balls
were truely insulating. A cloud of opposite ions would just
gather around
the pingpong balls, then all air flows (ion flows) would stop. So
On Jun 2, 2007, at 4:55 PM, William Beaty wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007, Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
About to go on some travels, will get some incense while I am out,
preferably something that smells nice and not like a house of ill
repute. :)
Y'know, I think incense smoke might give
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